Re: [pydotorg-www] Migrating to moin2

2025-03-12 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg
Quick update: * I talked to Jacob from the infra team and he setup rate limiting at the HAProxy level for the wiki VM. This seems to have reduced the number of 503s you get when using the wiki. * I had a call with one of the moin2 developers today and we discussed ways forward. moin2 w

Re: [pydotorg-www] Migrating to moin2

2025-03-12 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg
Don't have time to fully comment on this, but just some additional background: The Python Wiki is a community effort, not a PSF one. It doesn't need the PSF to give it credibility (that's a very strange idea, TBH). The PSF only provides the hosting. Please also note that we have three wiki i

Re: [pydotorg-www] Migrating to moin2

2025-03-12 Thread Elena Williams via pydotorg-www
I feel as though at least at this stage the wiki is tightly coupled to PSF in a way that isn't just infra. In principle the raison d'etre for the wiki at all is at its core about python. The association with PSF gives this "place"/wiki the credibility to be a place worth keeping this stuff. Additio

Re: [pydotorg-www] Migrating to moin2

2025-03-11 Thread Mats Wichmann
On 3/11/25 16:34, Elena Williams via pydotorg-www wrote: Heya! I'm interested in making a plan for capturing editors, but there are things to unpack. I have notes ready that I'm happy to add to a new page in the wiki, but looking at the "RecentChanges" I see that there isn't a page relating

Re: [pydotorg-www] Migrating to moin2

2025-03-11 Thread Elena Williams via pydotorg-www
Heya! I'm interested in making a plan for capturing editors, but there are things to unpack. I have notes ready that I'm happy to add to a new page in the wiki, but looking at the "RecentChanges" I see that there isn't a page relating to this that has been added recently (as far as I can tell!).

Re: [pydotorg-www] Migrating to moin2

2025-03-06 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg
We can hash out a plan to do a new drive for editors in the coming weeks. I'll try to put together a wiki page outlining what we've discussed so far. I'm also having a call with a lead moin2 developer next week to see how realistic migrating to moin2 is at this point. Since I was seeing a few

Re: [pydotorg-www] Migrating to moin2

2025-03-05 Thread Elena Williams via pydotorg-www
These later numbers are more consistent with what I have found and can actually be seen. I'm happy to help clean up having done substantial work already on what this could look like and strategies (particularly looking at the discussion from the recent docs meeting), though not sure how to action.

Re: [pydotorg-www] Migrating to moin2

2025-03-05 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg
Correction for the numbers: We have 3400+ pages and 47k users. I had looked at a backup which doesn't remove things which were deleted on the main server - because unfortunately, moin's logic for deleting pages is to actually delete them on disk, without any way to get them back. Instead of d

[pydotorg-www] Migrating to moin2

2025-03-05 Thread Marc-Andre Lemburg
FYI: I've started looking into the moin2 migration... https://github.com/moinwiki/moin/discussions/1717#discussioncomment-12399187 In order to get there, we will need to do a test installation to hash out any problems we may run into and evaluate the state of moin2. They just released 2.0.0b2