These later numbers are more consistent with what I have found and can
actually be seen.

I'm happy to help clean up having done substantial work already on what
this could look like and strategies (particularly looking at the discussion
from the recent docs meeting), though not sure how to action.


---
Elena Williams


On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 at 05:38, Marc-Andre Lemburg <m...@egenix.com> wrote:

> Correction for the numbers: We have 3400+ pages and 47k users.
>
> I had looked at a backup which doesn't remove things which were deleted on
> the main server - because unfortunately, moin's logic for deleting pages is
> to actually delete them on disk, without any way to get them back.
>
> Instead of deleting a page, it's normally better to either add a redirect
> or to put a notice on the page that the content was cleared. That way, the
> history remains available. It may actually be a good idea to disable the
> delete action (if possible, I'd have to check).
>
> On 05.03.2025 12:47, Marc-Andre Lemburg wrote:
>
> FYI: I've started looking into the moin2 migration...
>
>
> https://github.com/moinwiki/moin/discussions/1717#discussioncomment-12399187
>
> In order to get there, we will need to do a test installation to hash out
> any problems we may run into and evaluate the state of moin2.
>
> They just released 2.0.0b2.
>
> I'll see whether I can find some time later this week to get something
> going.
>
> *I also checked our current stats:*
>
> We have 32k pages in the wiki and 221k users.
>
> Those numbers are what we have in the backend. Moin itself lists the
> number of pages as 3436.
>
> Looking at the page names, we'll be able to clean up a lot of spam pages
> which have accumulated before we added the editor signup requirement. Many
> of those are empty pages, so we should be able to write a tool to clean
> those up.
>
> It looks like Moin filters out those empty pages itself, since the title
> index does not list them:
>
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/TitleIndex
>
> Scanning through those 3.4k page titles, most of those look legitimate.
> And there's a lot of history in there :-)
>
> Similarly, we should be able to go through the user accounts and clear out
> all accounts which have not done any edits, in order to bring the numbers
> down.
>
> Thanks,
>
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