Re: [PyMOL] movies in presentations
Whenever I've done this i've used powerpoint and eiher encoded the vidoe as MPEG or used Flash to make th movie. As with most people here i found powerpoint doesn't show large videos too well within a slideshow when presented as MPEG but have found that flash movies do stream quite well. The only problem is that I don't have a laptop so when I give presentations it has to be done on someone elses computer and rarely can you gaurantee what codecs etc they will have installed - hence forcing the use of lower compression more ubiquitous codecs Chris Mark Wilke wrote: I'm wondering what software people use to display their pymol-made movies to best effect. I tried embedding the movies in powerpoint, but I don't like the performance drop. Running the movies from a movie player like quicktime just doesn't seem integrated enough if you want to interact with your movies. I'm picturing a scenario where the movies are seamlessly embedded in the presentation and scene-changes can be prompted by a mouseclick. I know I've seen someone do this before, but I don't know what kind of software they were using. I'd like to start with a still image, click my mouse have the protein rotate and zoom in on an active site, wait while I discuss everything important, then move on to something else when I click the mouse again. In addition, things like labels and text can be overlaid over the movies and respond to choreographed mouseclicks as well. Any ideas? - Mark Wilke --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ PyMOL-users mailing list PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users
RE: [PyMOL] movies in presentations
the potential of suddenly vanishing at the whim of the company, as did Accelrys' formerly FREE version of WebLab/DSViewer. With such software, you absolutely rely upon the continued mercy and benevolence of the party which gives the product away. Is that something you're willing to risk with the key tools you count on, especially if you don't have to? PyMOL is still the only FREE and completely unrestricted OPEN-SOURCE molecular viewer in its class. DeLano Scientific cannot take PyMOL away from you in an attempt to generate revenue, and you do not need special permission from us in order to use, modify, or redistribute it. I think that counts for something, even if PyMOL can't currently match Yasara's great visual leap forward. I am confident that given more time and your continued support, PyMOL will eventually get there too. Cheers, Warren -- mailto:war...@delanoscientific.com Warren L. DeLano, Ph.D. Principal Scientist DeLano Scientific LLC Voice (650)-346-1154 Fax (650)-593-4020 -Original Message- From: pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of t.a.wassen...@chem.rug.nl Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:57 PM To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [PyMOL] movies in presentations Hi, I've seen exactly these kind of things happening in a package called Yasara, which is freely available in a limited form at www.yasara.org But I am quite fond of the feel and features of Pymol that I would love to see some of such features in there in stead of making the switch :) Tsjerk On Fri, 16 Apr 2004, Tom Thompson wrote: Mark, I switched from powerpoint to Keynote and it works much better. For example, the beginning of the movie runs much more smoothly now. BTW if it matters I make my movies by compressing images in graphic converter. About the zoom/stop. You can have one slide of the initial frame for the still, then go into the zoom movie (there are scripts to do this) on the next slide. Or you could have it all timed out in one movie to pause for a certain amount of time in a particular state. -Tom I'm wondering what software people use to display their pymol-made movies to best effect. I tried embedding the movies in powerpoint, but I don't like the performance drop. Running the movies from a movie player like quicktime just doesn't seem integrated enough if you want to interact with your movies. I'm picturing a scenario where the movies are seamlessly embedded in the presentation and scene-changes can be prompted by a mouseclick. I know I've seen someone do this before, but I don't know what kind of software they were using. I'd like to start with a still image, click my mouse have the protein rotate and zoom in on an active site, wait while I discuss everything important, then move on to something else when I click the mouse again. In addition, things like labels and text can be overlaid over the movies and respond to choreographed mouseclicks as well. Any ideas? - Mark Wilke -- ~ -- :) -- :) Tsjerk A. Wassenaar, M.Sc. -- :) Molecular Dynamics Group -- :) Dept. of Biophysical Chemistry -- :) University of Groningen -- :) Nijenborgh 4 -- :) 9747 AG Groningen -- :) The Netherlands -- :) ~ -- :) -- :) Hi! I'm a .signature virus! -- :) Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- :) ~
Re: [PyMOL] movies in presentations
Hi, I've seen exactly these kind of things happening in a package called Yasara, which is freely available in a limited form at www.yasara.org But I am quite fond of the feel and features of Pymol that I would love to see some of such features in there in stead of making the switch :) Tsjerk On Fri, 16 Apr 2004, Tom Thompson wrote: Mark, I switched from powerpoint to Keynote and it works much better. For example, the beginning of the movie runs much more smoothly now. BTW if it matters I make my movies by compressing images in graphic converter. About the zoom/stop. You can have one slide of the initial frame for the still, then go into the zoom movie (there are scripts to do this) on the next slide. Or you could have it all timed out in one movie to pause for a certain amount of time in a particular state. -Tom I'm wondering what software people use to display their pymol-made movies to best effect. I tried embedding the movies in powerpoint, but I don't like the performance drop. Running the movies from a movie player like quicktime just doesn't seem integrated enough if you want to interact with your movies. I'm picturing a scenario where the movies are seamlessly embedded in the presentation and scene-changes can be prompted by a mouseclick. I know I've seen someone do this before, but I don't know what kind of software they were using. I'd like to start with a still image, click my mouse have the protein rotate and zoom in on an active site, wait while I discuss everything important, then move on to something else when I click the mouse again. In addition, things like labels and text can be overlaid over the movies and respond to choreographed mouseclicks as well. Any ideas? - Mark Wilke --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ PyMOL-users mailing list PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users -- ~ -- :) -- :) Tsjerk A. Wassenaar, M.Sc. -- :) Molecular Dynamics Group -- :) Dept. of Biophysical Chemistry -- :) University of Groningen -- :) Nijenborgh 4 -- :) 9747 AG Groningen -- :) The Netherlands -- :) ~ -- :) -- :) Hi! I'm a .signature virus! -- :) Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- :) ~
RE: [PyMOL] movies in presentations
Mark, Despite the performance drop, I'm a big fan of presenting within PowerPoint -- I think it is simply the best solution for Windows. Note that within PowerPoint: - you can have your movie play automatically - you can start and stop the movie with a mouse click in order to discuss certain states - you can chain movies together in subsequent slides in order to get the effect you described. Even with PowerPoint's up to 50% performance hit, I've found that it is possible for a 2.2 Ghz Pentium 4 M to show decent full-screen video using Microsoft's latest MPEG4 codec (added in Windows Media 8 or 9?). Also note that the performance hit is reduced when your presentation is running at 1024x768, as it will likely be doing when hooked up to a projector. My latest Adobe Premiere recipe: Microsoft's MPEG4 V2, 960x720 @ 30 fps, which PowerPoint automatically treats as full-screen (due it's wacky metrics). Using this codec, a recent 24-second movie consumed only 4.5 MB of space, but looks much better than a 640x480 Cinepak-based movie with a file size of around ~40 MB. It definitely pays to use the latest technology... Cheers, Warren -Original Message- From: pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Mark Wilke Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:01 PM To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [PyMOL] movies in presentations I'm wondering what software people use to display their pymol-made movies to best effect. I tried embedding the movies in powerpoint, but I don't like the performance drop. Running the movies from a movie player like quicktime just doesn't seem integrated enough if you want to interact with your movies. I'm picturing a scenario where the movies are seamlessly embedded in the presentation and scene-changes can be prompted by a mouseclick. I know I've seen someone do this before, but I don't know what kind of software they were using. I'd like to start with a still image, click my mouse have the protein rotate and zoom in on an active site, wait while I discuss everything important, then move on to something else when I click the mouse again. In addition, things like labels and text can be overlaid over the movies and respond to choreographed mouseclicks as well. Any ideas? - Mark Wilke --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ PyMOL-users mailing list PyMOL-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users
