Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r83893 - python/branches/release27-maint/Misc/ACKS

2010-08-10 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Benjamin Peterson writes: 2010/8/9 Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:10 AM, alexander.belopolsky python-check...@python.org wrote: +PS: In the standard Python distribution, this file is encoded in UTF-8 +and the list is in rough alphabetical order by last

Re: [Python-Dev] Adding a token

2010-08-10 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 8 Aug, 2010, at 6:15, Greg Ewing wrote: Aaargh, I think I've found out what the problem is. I'm using framework builds on MacOSX. I have two experimental builds of Python 3.1 around, plus a standard one installed in /Library. It's picking up the version of Python.framework in

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r83893 - python/branches/release27-maint/Misc/ACKS

2010-08-10 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2010/8/10 Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org: Benjamin Peterson writes:   2010/8/9 Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com:   On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:10 AM, alexander.belopolsky   python-check...@python.org wrote:   +PS: In the standard Python distribution, this file is encoded   in UTF-8

[Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2010-08-10 Thread Python tracker
ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2010-08-01 - 2010-08-07) Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue. Do NOT respond to this message. Issues stats: open2640 (+35) closed 18679 (+194) total 21319 (+57) Open issues with patches:

Re: [Python-Dev] mingw support?

2010-08-10 Thread linux
On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 06:55:29PM -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: On 8/9/2010 2:47 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: Terry Reedy: MingW has become less attractive in recent years by the difficulty in downloading and installing a current version and finding out how to do so. Some projects have

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2010-08-10 Thread Ezio Melotti
Hi, lately I've been working on the new summary of Python tracker issues. This is the result. On 10/08/2010 16.39, Python tracker wrote: ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2010-08-01 - 2010-08-07) This is the period that is considered for the following stats. By default it shows the activity of the last

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2010-08-10 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:28:18 +0300, Ezio Melotti ezio.melo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, lately I've been working on the new summary of Python tracker issues. This is the result. Thanks for working on this, Ezio! Issues stats: open2640 (+35) closed 18679 (+194) total 21319

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r83893 - python/branches/release27-maint/Misc/ACKS

2010-08-10 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:53 AM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: .. People need to recognize that any kind of reference is really irrelevant here. There is no right order that is better than any other right order. I'd personally object to any English language dictionary telling me

Re: [Python-Dev] mingw support?

2010-08-10 Thread David Cournapeau
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:06 PM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 06:55:29PM -0400, Terry Reedy wrote: On 8/9/2010 2:47 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: Terry Reedy:     MingW has become less attractive in recent years by the difficulty in downloading and installing a

Re: [Python-Dev] Summary of Python tracker Issues

2010-08-10 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/10/2010 10:28 AM, Ezio Melotti wrote: This is the list of *all* the issues created or reopened during the last week *that are still open*. Thank you for removing the duplication of listing issues opened and closed twice. I otherwise pretty much agree with RDM's comments. -- Terry Jan

Re: [Python-Dev] r83893 - python/branches/release27-maint/Misc/ACKS

2010-08-10 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/10/2010 9:13 AM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: 2010/8/10 Stephen J. Turnbullstep...@xemacs.org: Benjamin Peterson writes: 2010/8/9 Nick Coghlanncogh...@gmail.com: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:10 AM, alexander.belopolsky python-check...@python.org wrote: +PS: In the standard

Re: [Python-Dev] r83893 - python/branches/release27-maint/Misc/ACKS

2010-08-10 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/10/2010 3:25 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: Everyone working on the English-based Python distribution knows the order of the 26 English letters. Please use that order (including for decorated versions and tranliterations) instead of various idiosyncratic and possibly conflicting nationality-based

Re: [Python-Dev] r83893 - python/branches/release27-maint/Misc/ACKS

2010-08-10 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2010/8/10 Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu: On 8/10/2010 9:13 AM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: 2010/8/10 Stephen J. Turnbullstep...@xemacs.org: Benjamin Peterson writes:    2010/8/9 Nick Coghlanncogh...@gmail.com:      On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:10 AM, alexander.belopolsky      

Re: [Python-Dev] r83893 - python/branches/release27-maint/Misc/ACKS

2010-08-10 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: .. If I were committing a patch and was checking to see whether a name that started with a decorated A (or any other letter) were already in the list, I would look in the appropriate place in the A (or other) section, not

Re: [Python-Dev] r83893 - python/branches/release27-maint/Misc/ACKS

2010-08-10 Thread Terry Reedy
On 8/10/2010 3:44 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote: No, but if he complains about it, we should change it. If In rough English alphabetical order is extended with unless the person requests otherwise, then it should also be extended with in which case the name is suffixed with '(phbr)' [or

Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-checkins] r83893 - python/branches/release27-maint/Misc/ACKS

2010-08-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I am not 100% happy with this because I am sure people will keep discovering that the order in the file does not match the order suggested by their favorite sort program. I was also hoping to learn from this discussion what the state of the art in in sorting unicode words is. I believe

Re: [Python-Dev] r83893 - python/branches/release27-maint/Misc/ACKS

2010-08-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
If I were committing a patch and was checking to see whether a name that started with a decorated A (or any other letter) were already in the list, I would look in the appropriate place in the A (or other) section, not after Z. Everyone working on the English-based Python distribution

Re: [Python-Dev] r83893 - python/branches/release27-maint/Misc/ACKS

2010-08-10 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: .. So where do you put Γεώργιος Μπουτσιούκης? or Александр Белопольский for that matter? :-) ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org

Re: [Python-Dev] r83893 - python/branches/release27-maint/Misc/ACKS

2010-08-10 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Alexander Belopolsky alexander.belopol...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: .. So where do you put Γεώργιος Μπουτσιούκης? or Александр Белопольский for that matter? :-) James Tauber did a UCA

Re: [Python-Dev] r83893 - python/branches/release27-maint/Misc/ACKS

2010-08-10 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Am 11.08.2010 00:35, schrieb Alexander Belopolsky: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: .. So where do you put Γεώργιος Μπουτσιούκης? or Александр Белопольский for that matter? :-) If you care about that, feel free to add that spelling to the file.

Re: [Python-Dev] r83893 - python/branches/release27-maint/Misc/ACKS

2010-08-10 Thread Alexander Belopolsky
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote: .. or Александр Белопольский for that matter? :-) If you care about that, feel free to add that spelling to the file. Somebody proposed to put it along with some latin transliteration, which I can sympathize with.

[Python-Dev] Proposed tweaks to functools.wraps

2010-08-10 Thread Nick Coghlan
Based on a pair of tracker issues (#3445 and #9396) I'm considering a couple of adjustments to functools.wraps for 3.2. The first (#3445) is a request from ages ago to make update_wrapper more forgiving when it encounters a missing attribute. Instead of throwing AttributeError (as it does now),

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposed tweaks to functools.wraps

2010-08-10 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2010/8/10 Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com: Based on a pair of tracker issues (#3445 and #9396) I'm considering a couple of adjustments to functools.wraps for 3.2. The first (#3445) is a request from ages ago to make update_wrapper more forgiving when it encounters a missing attribute. Instead

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposed tweaks to functools.wraps

2010-08-10 Thread Éric Araujo
The second (#9396) came up in the context of the new cache decorators added to functools, and allowing applications to choose their own caching strategies. I suggested exposing the original (uncached) function, and Raymond suggested that the easiest way to enable that would be for

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposed tweaks to functools.wraps

2010-08-10 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org wrote: The second (#9396) came up in the context of the new cache decorators added to functools, and allowing applications to choose their own caching strategies. I suggested exposing the original (uncached) function, and Raymond

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposed tweaks to functools.wraps

2010-08-10 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: The second (#9396) came up in the context of the new cache decorators added to functools, and allowing applications to choose their own caching strategies. I suggested exposing the original (uncached) function, and

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposed tweaks to functools.wraps

2010-08-10 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: which would require ignoring the absence of __annotations__. It turns out the patch that added __annotations__ support also made a change to make all of the copied attributes optional. So I'll be tidying up the

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposed tweaks to functools.wraps

2010-08-10 Thread Steve Holden
On 8/10/2010 10:58 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org wrote: The second (#9396) came up in the context of the new cache decorators added to functools, and allowing applications to choose their own caching strategies. I suggested exposing the

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposed tweaks to functools.wraps

2010-08-10 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com wrote: One of the things that's slightly irking about the decorator syntax is that a decorator is always called with exactly one argument, and that if you want to write a parameterized decorator you therefore end up writing a

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposed tweaks to functools.wraps

2010-08-10 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Steve Holden st...@holdenweb.com wrote: One of the things that's slightly irking about the decorator syntax is that a decorator is always called with exactly one argument, and that if you want to write a parameterized decorator you therefore end up writing a