On 21.03.2012 20:39, Guido van Rossum wrote:
>> Guido, you encouraged us to use science, but only after describing my
>> science-based maximum line-length suggestion as "coddling," then said we
>> should let Georg get on with it, but only after reiterating your personal
>> favorite tweak (which I
On 21/03/2012 23:03, Paul Moore wrote:
On 21 March 2012 22:43, Mark Hammond wrote:
On 22/03/2012 1:22 AM, Lindberg, Van wrote:
Mark, MAL, Martin, Tarek,
Could you comment on this?
Eric is correct - tools will be broken by this change. However, people seem
willing to push forward on this
Le 06/03/2012 15:31, Giampaolo Rodolà a écrit :
> That's why I once proposed to include whatsnew.rst changes every time
> a new feature is added/committed.
> Assigning that effort to the release manager or whoever is supposed to
> take care of this, is both impractical and prone to forgetfulness.
Good evening,
> If you are a core committer and volunteer as GSoC
> mentor for 2012, please let me know by Friday
> (March 23rd).
There is a number of interesting things to implement in packaging, and
at least one student who manifested their interest, but unfortunately I
am presently unable to sa
> On the other hand, exposing the existing read-only dict proxy as a
> built-in type sounds good to me. (It would need to be changed to
> allow calling the constructor.)
I wrote a small patch to implement this request:
http://bugs.python.org/issue14386
I also opened the following issue to suppor
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Huan Do wrote:
> I was not completely familiar with itertools but itertools.islice() seems to
> have the functionality that I propose. It is great that there already exist
> a solution that does not change python's syntax. Unless anyone wants to
> pursue this pro
Huan Do wrote:
*Hi,
I am a graduating Berkeley student that loves python and would like to
propose an enhancement to python. My proposal introduces a concept of
slicing generator. For instance, if one does x[:] it returns a list
which is a copy of x. Sometimes programmers would want to iterat
Cleaning up the absurd CC line
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
> I agree on all points here. I don't understand quite why backward
> compatibility is being treated so lightly here. But equally, I've made
> my points and have little further to add.
As a non-Windows user wh
@Ethan Furman
each call to x(:) would return a different iterator, so both sides will
have their own information about where they are. Also it is the case that
checking for equality of generators does not make the generators to expand
out, so checking for equality becomes to checking if they are t
> My proposed syntax is x(:)
Change the Python syntax is not a good start. You can already
experiment your idea using the slice() type.
> We would have to do something like this.
> sum(x[:-20:2])
Do you know the itertools module? It looks like itertools.islice().
Victor
On 03/21/2012 07:39 PM, Huan Do wrote:
*Hi,
I am a graduating Berkeley student that loves python and would like to
propose an enhancement to python. My proposal introduces a concept of
slicing generator. For instance, if one does x[:] it returns a list
which is a copy of x. Sometimes programmers
2012/3/22 Guido van Rossum :
> To close the loop, I've rejected the PEP, adding the following rejection
> notice:
>
> """
> I'm rejecting this PEP. (...)
Hum, you may specify who is "I" in the PEP.
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To close the loop, I've rejected the PEP, adding the following rejection notice:
"""
I'm rejecting this PEP. A number of reasons (not exhaustive):
* According to Raymond Hettinger, use of frozendict is low. Those
that do use it tend to use it as a hint only, such as declaring
global or c
*Hi,
I am a graduating Berkeley student that loves python and would like to
propose an enhancement to python. My proposal introduces a concept of
slicing generator. For instance, if one does x[:] it returns a list which
is a copy of x. Sometimes programmers would want to iterate over a slice of
x,
On 21 March 2012 22:43, Mark Hammond wrote:
> On 22/03/2012 1:22 AM, Lindberg, Van wrote:
>>
>> Mark, MAL, Martin, Tarek,
>>
>> Could you comment on this?
>
>
> Eric is correct - tools will be broken by this change. However, people seem
> willing to push forward on this and accept such breakage a
+10 for new design.
+1 for respecting default font size rather than "div.body {font-size: smaller;}"
Users loving smaller font can set their browser's default font size.
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Georg Brandl wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> recently I've grown a bit tired of seeing our default Sphinx
On 22/03/2012 1:22 AM, Lindberg, Van wrote:
Mark, MAL, Martin, Tarek,
Could you comment on this?
Eric is correct - tools will be broken by this change. However, people
seem willing to push forward on this and accept such breakage as the
necessary cost.
MAL, in his followup, asks what the
Ned Batchelder wrote:
Any of the tweaks people are suggesting could be applied individually
using this technique. We could just as easily choose to make the site
left-justified, and let the full-justification fans use custom
stylesheets to get it.
Is it really necessary for the site to speci
>> http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/730d5357
>> changeset: 75850:730d5357
>> user: Stefan Krah
>> date: Wed Mar 21 18:25:23 2012 +0100
>> summary:
>> Issue #7652: Integrate the decimal floating point libmpdec library to speed
>> up the decimal module. Performance gains of
I tripped over this one trying to make one of our Python at work
Windows compatible. We had no idea that a magic 'SystemRoot'
environment variable would be required, and it was causing issues for
pyzmq.
It might be nice to reflect the findings of this email thread on the
subprocess documentation p
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:39:18 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Ned Batchelder
> wrote:
> > Personally, I think two Python projects that have focused on docs and done a
> > good job of it are Django and readthedocs.org. Â Perhaps we could follow
> > their lead?
>
On 3/21/2012 4:38 PM, Fred Drake wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
There are bad designers, or more to the point, designers who favor the
overall look of the page at the expense of the utility of the page. That
doesn't mean all designers are bad, or that "design" is
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> There are bad designers, or more to the point, designers who favor the
> overall look of the page at the expense of the utility of the page. That
> doesn't mean all designers are bad, or that "design" is bad. Don't throw
> out the baby wit
Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
The challenge for the maintainer of the docs site is to choose a good design
that most people will see. We're bound to disagree on what that design
should be, and I suggest that probably none of us are designer enou
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On 03/21/2012 03:13 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On 3/21/2012 3:06 PM, Fred Drake wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Guido van Rossum
>> wrote:
>>> That doesn't mean the web designer shouldn't think at least twice
>>> before specifying a smalle
On 3/21/2012 3:45 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Ned Batchelder
wrote:
The challenge for the maintainer of the docs site is to choose a
good design
that most people will see. We're bound to disagree on what that design
should be, and I sugges
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On 3/21/2012 2:46 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Ned Batchelder
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You can use Ctrl-+ to increase the size of the text, and modern browsers
>>> remember that for the next time you visit t
On Mar 21, 2012 12:00 PM, "Guido van Rossum" wrote:
>
> On Mar 21, 2012 5:44 AM, "Ned Batchelder" wrote:
> > The best thing to do is to set a max-width in ems, say 50em. This
leaves the text at a reasonable width, but adapts naturally for people with
larger fonts.
>
> Please, no, not even this "i
On 3/21/2012 3:06 PM, Fred Drake wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
That doesn't mean the web designer shouldn't think at least twice
before specifying a smaller font than the browser default.
Yet 90% of designers (or more) insist on making text insanely small, com
On 3/21/2012 2:46 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
You can use Ctrl-+ to increase the size of the text, and modern browsers
remember that for the next time you visit the site.
That doesn't mean the web designer shouldn't think at least twice
b
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 02:40:04PM -0400, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> You can use Ctrl-+ to increase the size of the text, and modern
> browsers remember that for the next time you visit the site.
Browsers usually remember the setting for the entire site, not only
documentation.
Oleg.
--
Ole
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> That doesn't mean the web designer shouldn't think at least twice
> before specifying a smaller font than the browser default.
Yet 90% of designers (or more) insist on making text insanely small, commonly
specifying the size in pixles or
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> You can use Ctrl-+ to increase the size of the text, and modern browsers
> remember that for the next time you visit the site.
That doesn't mean the web designer shouldn't think at least twice
before specifying a smaller font than the brow
On 3/21/2012 1:04 PM, Serhiy Storchaka wrote:
If I can get my five cents, I will tell about my impressions. I really
liked the background of allocated blocks (such as notes and code
snippets) has become less diverse (but still visible). The border
around these blocks have become more accurate a
On 3/21/2012 7:09 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:39:41 -0400
Terry Reedy wrote:
On 3/20/2012 6:38 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:
The current green on the front page is too heavy.
Green?
hmm... you mean blue, right?
:)
Yeh, a muddy slightly greenish blue. I would prefer what I ca
21.03.12 18:00, Guido van Rossum написав(ла):
(Can you see why I invented a whitespace-sensitive language? I have a
whitespace-sensitive brain. :-)
It should be added to favorite quotes.
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If I can get my five cents, I will tell about my impressions. I really
liked the background of allocated blocks (such as notes and code
snippets) has become less diverse (but still visible). The border around
these blocks have become more accurate and more pleasant to emphasize
blocks. It is ve
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> The challenge for the maintainer of the docs site is to choose a good design
> that most people will see. We're bound to disagree on what that design
> should be, and I suggest that probably none of us are designer enough to
> come up with
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:38:53PM +0100, Georg Brandl wrote:
> recently I've grown a bit tired of seeing our default Sphinx theme,
> especially as so many other projects use it. I decided to play around
> with something "clean" this time, and this is the result:
>
> http://www.python.org/~gbra
On Mar 21, 2012 5:44 AM, "Ned Batchelder" wrote:
> The best thing to do is to set a max-width in ems, say 50em. This leaves the
> text at a reasonable width, but adapts naturally for people with larger fonts.
Please, no, not even this "improved" version of coddling. If you're
formatting e.g. a n
On 2012-03-21, at 11:06 AM, Łukasz Rekucki wrote:
> FYI, the current paragraph font size on docs.python.org is 16px, while
> for http://www.python.org/~gbrandl/build/html/ it's 13px, so
> increasing that should help readability :) You can use @media queries
> to adjust it to screen resolution, whic
21.03.12 16:18, Ned Batchelder написав(ла):
We could just as easily choose to make the site
left-justified, and let the full-justification fans use custom
stylesheets to get it.
I find justified text convenient and pleasant for the eyes. Many people
hate left-aligned text. I think that the bes
On 21 March 2012 13:38, Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On 3/21/2012 6:16 AM, Oleg Broytman wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 09:33:13AM +, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
>>>
>>> On 21/03/2012 08:25, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 07:00, Georg Brandl wrote:
>
> OK, that
Lindberg, Van wrote:
> Mark, MAL, Martin, Tarek,
>
> Could you comment on this?
>
> This is in the context of changing the name of the 'Scripts' directory
> on windows to 'bin'. Éric brings up the point (explained more below)
> that if we make this change, packages made/installed the new pack
Mark, MAL, Martin, Tarek,
Could you comment on this?
This is in the context of changing the name of the 'Scripts' directory
on windows to 'bin'. Éric brings up the point (explained more below)
that if we make this change, packages made/installed the new packaging
infrastructure and those made/
On 3/21/2012 9:44 AM, Serhiy Storchaka wrote:
21.03.12 03:58, Ned Batchelder написав(ла):
Books, magazines, and newspapers look good with full justification, web
pages do not. Can we switch to left-justified instead?
You can add line
p {text-align: left !important}
to your browser custom sty
21.03.12 03:58, Ned Batchelder написав(ла):
Books, magazines, and newspapers look good with full justification, web
pages do not. Can we switch to left-justified instead?
You can add line
p {text-align: left !important}
to your browser custom stylesheet.
If you are using Firefox or Chrome (C
> -Original Message-
> From: Carl Meyer [mailto:c...@oddbird.net]
> Sent: 19. mars 2012 19:19
> To: Kristján Valur Jónsson
> Cc: Python-Dev (python-dev@python.org)
> Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 405 (built-in virtualenv) status
>
> Hello Kristján,
> I think there's one important (albeit
21.03.12 14:38, Ned Batchelder написав(ла):
The best thing to do is to set a max-width in ems, say 50em. This leaves
the text at a reasonable width, but adapts naturally for people with
larger fonts.
It's good for books, magazines, and newspapers, but not for technical
site. ;)
_
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:58:21 +0100, Georg Brandl wrote:
> On 21.03.2012 00:17, R. David Murray wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:38:53 +0100, Georg Brandl wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> recently I've grown a bit tired of seeing our default Sphinx theme,
> >> especially as so many other projects u
On 3/21/2012 6:16 AM, Oleg Broytman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 09:33:13AM +, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
On 21/03/2012 08:25, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 07:00, Georg Brandl wrote:
OK, that seems to be the main point people make... let me see if I can
come up with a be
On 21/03/2012 09:33, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
On 21/03/2012 08:25, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 07:00, Georg Brandl wrote:
OK, that seems to be the main point people make... let me see if I can
come up with a better compromise.
Would it be possible to limit the width of the
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:58:57 -0400
Ned Batchelder wrote:
> On 3/20/2012 6:38 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:
> > Let me know what you think, or play around and send some improvements.
> > (The collapsible sidebar is not adapted to it yet, but will definitely
> > be integrated before I consider applying a
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:39:41 -0400
Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 3/20/2012 6:38 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:
>
> The current green on the front page is too heavy.
Green?
hmm... you mean blue, right?
:)
Antoine.
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Dirkjan Ochtman writes:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 07:00, Georg Brandl wrote:
> > OK, that seems to be the main point people make... let me see if I
> > can come up with a better compromise.
>
> Would it be possible to limit the width of the page? On my 1920px
> monitor, the lines get awfully lon
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 09:33:13AM +, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
> On 21/03/2012 08:25, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> >On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 07:00, Georg Brandl wrote:
> >>OK, that seems to be the main point people make... let me see if I can
> >>come up with a better compromise.
> >Would it be poss
On 21/03/2012 08:25, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 07:00, Georg Brandl wrote:
OK, that seems to be the main point people make... let me see if I can
come up with a better compromise.
Would it be possible to limit the width of the page? On my 1920px
monitor, the lines get awful
Turn your monitor portrait or make the window smaller :)
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On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 07:00, Georg Brandl wrote:
> OK, that seems to be the main point people make... let me see if I can
> come up with a better compromise.
Would it be possible to limit the width of the page? On my 1920px
monitor, the lines get awfully long, making them harder to read.
Cheer
I'm wondering whether Python Core should participate
in GSoC 2012 or not, as core contributors have shown
little interest in acting as mentors in the past.
If you are a core committer and volunteer as GSoC
mentor for 2012, please let me know by Friday
(March 23rd).
Regards,
Martin
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