[Python-Dev] Re: Python-dev mailing lis archives earlier than late April 1999?

2020-01-06 Thread Guido van Rossum
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 8:17 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 1/6/20 8:03 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > > > Actually there's quite a bit more than that. see > > . I have grabbed that > > entire directory and it is now visible at > >

[Python-Dev] Re: Python-dev mailing lis archives earlier than late April 1999?

2020-01-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/6/20 8:03 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > Actually there's quite a bit more than that. see > . I have grabbed that > entire directory and it is now visible at > . Because of > the way that

[Python-Dev] Re: Python-dev mailing lis archives earlier than late April 1999?

2020-01-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 1/6/20 2:43 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Via Twitter I got > ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/mirror/python/search/hypermail/python-recent/, which > has earlier python-list archives, ending in April 1995. Not exactly what > you were looking for but probably also worth saving before that archive > dies. Actu

[Python-Dev] Re: Python-dev mailing lis archives earlier than late April 1999?

2020-01-06 Thread Skip Montanaro
Thanks. Mirroring to my laptop now. Will discuss how to preserve it more permanently with postmaster. Skip On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:43 PM Guido van Rossum wrote: > Via Twitter I got > ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/mirror/python/search/hypermail/python-recent/, which > has earlier python-list archives, endi

[Python-Dev] Re: Python-dev mailing lis archives earlier than late April 1999?

2020-01-06 Thread Guido van Rossum
Via Twitter I got ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/mirror/python/search/hypermail/python-recent/, which has earlier python-list archives, ending in April 1995. Not exactly what you were looking for but probably also worth saving before that archive dies. On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:56 AM Skip Montanaro wrote: >

[Python-Dev] Steering Council Update (November through December)

2020-01-06 Thread Ewa Jodlowska
Hello! Below is an update from the Steering Council. It covers November and December. The update has been added to the Steering Council repo: https://github.com/python/steering-council/blob/master/updates/2020-01-06-steering-council-update.md (added to README as well). --

[Python-Dev] PEP 458: Secure PyPI downloads with package signing

2020-01-06 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
Hi! I'm forwarding this on behalf of Marina Moore https://github.com/mnm678 . - Sumana Harihareswara --- PEP 458 ( https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0458/ ) proposes using The Update Framework (TUF) to allow users of PyPI to verify that the packages they install originate from PyPI. Implemen

[Python-Dev] Re: Python-dev mailing lis archives earlier than late April 1999?

2020-01-06 Thread Skip Montanaro
Thanks all. I just pinged Ken and am going to rummage around mail.python.org for a bit. Skip On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:10 PM Barry Warsaw wrote: > comp.lang.python and thus python-list definitely predate Mailman. In > fact, my earliest Python story involves seeing c.l.py creation, browsing > f

[Python-Dev] Re: Python-dev mailing lis archives earlier than late April 1999?

2020-01-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
comp.lang.python and thus python-list definitely predate Mailman. In fact, my earliest Python story involves seeing c.l.py creation, browsing for a bit (because who doesn’t love a cool little language that just a handful of enthusiasts are raving about?), and finding it full only of Monty Pytho

[Python-Dev] Re: Python-dev mailing lis archives earlier than late April 1999?

2020-01-06 Thread Guido van Rossum
Hm, I searched Google's comp.lang.python archives for mentions of python-dev before 1999, and found this: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.python/-HjN6YjOZJg/wJGxiOlpt1MJ (posted 6/22/98 by Marc-André Lemburg): "What would you think of a python-dev list that takes at least some o

[Python-Dev] Re: Python-dev mailing lis archives earlier than late April 1999?

2020-01-06 Thread Skip Montanaro
On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 7:25 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 1/1/20 11:22 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > I am looking at the MM2 mailing list creation confirmation messages in > my personal archives. Both d...@python.org (at 09:49 server local time?) > and python-dev@python.org (at 14:17) were created on