like Uncaught exception in __del__
| method ignored? It explains fairly clearly what has
| happened, and also indicates what do do about it --
| catch it in the __del__ method.
|
| Exception in __del__ caught and not propagated:
| Georg
On 24Sep2013 09:33, Glenn Linderman v+pyt...@g.nevcal.com
On 9/24/2013 5:51 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
Why not just say something like Cannot propagate exception...; it's
simpler than Unpropagatable exception
That would definitely be an improvement on the status quo and avoids
Antoine's concern about an adjective being interpreted as an inherent
On 9/22/2013 9:29 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Sunday, September 22, 2013, Nick Coghlan wrote:
Brevity is still a virtue. The relevant C API function is called
PyErr_WriteUnraisable, so just starting the message as something
like Unraisable exception suppressed in... might work.
On 9/17/2013 10:51 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
But only the PSF has the list of original contributors and their
licenses.
So can that list be made public, and available in multiple archives?
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On 9/15/2013 11:28 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote:
Does anybody know if http://vote.python.org is already operational?
I decided to start a separate thread for TransformDict name, because I
want to change it.
Current implementation of PEP 455 only touches dictionary keys and it
is more narrow than
On 9/12/2013 8:40 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Le Thu, 12 Sep 2013 08:05:44 -0700,
Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us a écrit :
On 09/12/2013 07:43 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Yeah, so this is totally silly. What you're basically saying is we
don't need TransformDict since people can re-implement it
On 9/6/2013 10:22 AM, Dan Callahan wrote:
On 9/5/13 12:31 PM, Jesus Cea wrote:
I have big hopes for Mozilla Persona, looking forward
Python infrastructure support :).
Hi, I'm the project lead on Persona signin, and I spoke at PyCon
earlier this year regarding why and how Mozilla is building
On 9/10/2013 8:54 AM, Janzert wrote:
I intuitively expected, and I think most often would want, the first
key to be held.
My intuition matches yours, but my thoughts are that it should be
changeable by specific request.
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On 9/10/2013 8:08 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Why do several posts in this thread have an Unsubscribe link that
tries to unsubscribe me from the list? (I saw one by Glen, and another
one by Donald Stufft.)
Seems to be in all of them. Probably added by the mailing list software.
Why don't you
On 9/10/2013 2:46 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Which reminds one - this class should obviously have a method for
retrivieng the original key value, given a matching key -
d.canonical('foo') - 'Foo'
I don't know. Is there any use case?
(sure, it is trivially implemented)
Well, I'd
On 9/5/2013 1:30 PM, Tres Seaver wrote:
+1 for supporting Persona as an alternative to OpenID on all *.python.org
servers.
Is there a Python implementation of Persona I can install on my web server?
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On 9/1/2013 8:03 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
This is getting off-topic IMO; we should probably take this thread to
email-sig.
Probably, but you didn't :)
Glenn Linderman writes:
I recall being surprised when first seeing messages generated by
Apple Mail software, that are multipart
On 9/2/2013 2:40 PM, R. David Murray wrote:
I'm still not understanding how the text/plain part*refers* to the
related parts.
I don't think the text/plain part can refer to the related parts, but,
like you, am willing to be educated if there is a way; but while the
text/html may be able to if
On 9/1/2013 3:10 PM, R. David Murray wrote:
This doesn't work, though, because you could (although you usually
won't) have more than one 'text/html' part in a single multipart.
I was traveling and your original message is still unread in my queue of
things to look at later :( I haven't
On 8/14/2013 9:27 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
I think Eric is overinterpreting the spec, there. While that
particular sentence requires that the empty format string will be
equivalent to a plain str() operation for builtin types, it is only a
recommendation for other types. For enums, I believe
On 8/5/2013 1:48 AM, Larry Hastings wrote:
The impl should know whether or not it failed. So it's the
interface we're defining that forces it to throw away that
information. If we provided a way for it to return that
information, we could shave off some cycles. The problem
is, how do we do
On 7/12/2013 8:50 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
You underestimate the reach of XP. For older or underpowered hardware
outside the developed world it is still the de facto choice. And it
definitely is the best version of Windows ever. None of the Win98 crap
and none of the Vista junk.
Telling
On 5/28/2013 6:02 AM, Serhiy Storchaka wrote:
20.05.13 18:46, Antoine Pitrou написав(ла):
I think it is a legitimate case where to silence the original
exception. However, the binascii.Error would be more informative if it
said *which* non-base32 digit was encountered.
Please open a new issue
On 5/23/2013 12:14 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2013 02:33:57 -0400
Devin Jeanpierrejeanpierr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Antoine Pitrousolip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2013 12:12:26 +1000
Nick Coghlanncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
The binary
On 5/22/2013 3:33 PM, Łukasz Langa wrote:
2. does not have a standard way for methods to be added to existing
generic functions (i.e., some are added using registration
functions, others require defining ``__special__`` methods, possibly
by monkeypatching).
I assume you are talking
On 5/22/2013 5:55 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Glenn Linderman v+pyt...@g.nevcal.com wrote:
Yet about half of the operator overloads would be incomplete if there were
not corresponding __r*__ methods (__radd__, __rsub__, etc.) because the
second parameter
On 5/14/2013 7:16 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Thank you for being persistent. You are correct, the value should be
an IntET (at least, with a custom __new__ ;).
You know, when you look at something you wrote the night before, and
have no idea what you were trying to say, you know you were tired.
On 5/20/2013 11:44 PM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
On 5/14/2013 7:16 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Thank you for being persistent. You are correct, the value should
be an IntET (at least, with a custom __new__ ;).
You know, when you look at something you wrote the night before, and
have no idea what
On 5/19/2013 9:08 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 05/19/2013 05:24 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
This is the point I was trying to make: once you use IntEnum (as you
would in any case where you need bitwise operators), Enum gets out of
the way for everything other than __str__, __repr__, and one other
On 5/13/2013 7:36 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 05/10/2013 10:15 PM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
So it is quite possible to marry the two, as Ethan helped me figure
out using an earlier NamedInt class:
class NIE( IntET, Enum ):
x = ('NIE.x', 1)
y = ('NIE.y', 2)
z = ('NIE.z', 4
On 5/13/2013 7:36 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
2) Is something like demo2 interesting to anyone but me? Of course, I
think it would be great for reporting flag values
using names rather than a number representing combined bit fields.
No idea. ;)
There's been some talk of Enum-ing constants in
On 5/10/2013 11:02 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 05/10/2013 10:15 PM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
But the last few lines of demo1 demonstrate that NIE doesn't like,
somehow, remember that its values, deep down under
the covers, are really int. And doesn't even like them when they are
wrapped
On 5/11/2013 12:11 AM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
* I'm playing with adding another keyword parameter to Enum, but it is
presently giving me an error about unknown keyword parameter passed to
__prepare__ even though I added **kwds to the list of its parameters.
I'll learn something by doing
On 5/11/2013 12:11 AM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
Oh, newest code posted.
That'll give me some practice pulling from your repository into mine :)
Well, I had to bring your changes to my local repository, and then push
them up to my bitbucket repo... not sure if there is a way to merge from
So, thanks everyone for helping me understand the metaclass issues, and
helping fix my code and the reference implementation, so that I got a
working workaround for enumerations.
Twiddling some more newly using hg and bitbucket... learned a lot
today... at
On 5/6/2013 6:26 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 05/05/2013 01:01 AM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
The bigger problem is that the arithmetic on enumeration items, which
seems like it should be inherited from NamedInt
(and seems to be, because the third value from each print is a
NamedInt), doesn't pick
On 5/6/2013 7:58 PM, Tim Delaney wrote:
On 7 May 2013 12:29, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us
mailto:et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
On 05/05/2013 02:55 PM, Tim Delaney wrote:
So long as I can get one of the requirements documented to
implement an auto-number syntax I'll be
So I have a class based on Nick's Named Values, that has been extended
to propagate names into expressions, so that if you have named values
'x' and 'y', when you x + y, the result is a named value whose name is
'(x + y)'.
Seems pretty awkward to integrate this with Enum. Maybe I'm missing
On 5/4/2013 11:31 PM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
So I have a class based on Nick's Named Values, that has been extended
to propagate names into expressions, so that if you have named values
'x' and 'y', when you x + y, the result is a named value whose name
is '(x + y)'.
Seems pretty awkward
On 5/4/2013 11:46 PM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
Somehow, the overloading is not finding the __add__ operator in the
NamedInt class, when the NamedInt's are wrapped in enumerations.
And I guess I figured it out... NamedInt needs to test
issubclass( type( self ), NamedInt )
rather than
On 5/5/2013 12:10 AM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
On 5/4/2013 11:46 PM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
Somehow, the overloading is not finding the __add__ operator in the
NamedInt class, when the NamedInt's are wrapped in enumerations.
And I guess I figured it out... NamedInt needs to test
issubclass
On 5/5/2013 12:21 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 05/04/2013 11:31 PM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
x = NamedInt('the-x', 1 )
y = NamedInt('the-y', 2 )
# demonstrate that NamedInt propagates the names into an expression
syntax
print( repr( x ), repr( y ), repr( x+y ))
from ref435 import Enum
On 5/5/2013 6:07 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
class NEI( NamedInt, Enum ):
x = NamedInt('the-x', 1 )
y = NamedInt('the-y', 2 )
@property
def __name__(self):
return self.value.__name__
This cured it, thank you. But I really still don't understand why the
numbers showed up
On 5/5/2013 7:14 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
I think there comes a point where subclass the metaclass is the
right answer to how do I do X with this type?. I believe making two
different kinds of value labelling mechanisms play nice is such a case
:)
Could be.
Could be that sufficient operators
On 5/5/2013 9:51 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Glenn Linderman v+pyt...@g.nevcal.com wrote:
Sadly, once the Enums are defined, there is to be no way to subclass them to
add functionality, like producing a NamedInt result from operations on them.
That rule is enforced
On 5/3/2013 6:41 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Many official Microsoft file extensions are four or more letters, e.g.
docx. I don't see any value in making long-lasting decisions on file
extensions based on (transient?) bugs that aren't our responsibility.
+1
On 4/30/2013 9:19 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Latest code available at https://bitbucket.org/stoneleaf/aenum.
-- class Color(Enum):
... red = 1
... green = 2
... blue = 3
Enum items are virtual attributes looked by EnumType's __getattr__.
The win here is that
--
On 4/30/2013 11:08 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Apr 28, 2013, at 07:46 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
and similarly, Enum behavior /should be/ (in my opinion ;)
Season.AUTUMN is Season('AUTUMN') is Season(3)
I think you'll have a problem with this. flufl.enum did this, but it has an
inherent
On 4/30/2013 1:12 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Greetings,
Eli asked me to put the reference implementation here for review.
It is available at https://bitbucket.org/stoneleaf/aenum in ref435.py
and test_ref435.py
Thanks for the code reference.
Tests ran fine here on Python 3.3
If I alter
On 4/30/2013 4:49 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 04/30/2013 03:34 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 04/30/2013 03:24 PM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
On 4/30/2013 1:12 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Greetings,
Eli asked me to put the reference implementation here for review.
It is available at https
On 4/29/2013 10:01 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Ethan Furman et...@stoneleaf.us wrote:
On 04/29/2013 08:39 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Indeed, the type(Color.red) is Color claim was meant for the
situation where red is defined directly in Color, and I used
On 4/28/2013 4:37 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I have also suggested that that the enum package provide a decorator
which can be used to explicitly flag values to *not* be turned into
enum values. See here:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2013-April/125641.html
Even if the Enum class
On 4/28/2013 9:09 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
(2a. We could also allow Color('red') is Color.red, but that could be
confusing, and we can already do that with getattr(Color, 'red'), and
bool('False') doesn't return False anyway, so let's not do that.)
Glad you made this pronouncement in this
On 4/25/2013 9:19 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Glenn Linderman v+pyt...@g.nevcal.com wrote:
an enumeration of objects whose class defines __call__ would
not be so weird.
Seriously? You'd complexificate the basic usage in order to cater for
such an esoteric use
On 4/26/2013 6:22 PM, Greg Ewing wrote:
Guido van Rossum wrote:
If we had access to the syntax used for the definition, this would be
simple: assignments define items, def statements define methods. But
at run time we only see the final object resulting from the
definition,
Another way we
On 4/25/2013 3:37 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Barry Warsawba...@python.org wrote:
On Apr 25, 2013, at 03:19 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
I suppose you were going to propose to use isinstance() overloading,
but I honestly think that Color.red.__class__ should be
On 4/25/2013 3:23 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
My point is, days of the week has a natural ordering, so why wouldn't you
use IntEnum for that? Problem solved.
While the ordering is natural, some implementations start from 0, some
start from 1, and on the naming side, some start from Sunday, and
On 4/25/2013 4:53 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 04/25/2013 04:26 PM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
My question is, once an enumeration is defined, is there a way, short
of element-by-element assignment, to import the
individual enumeration instances into the current namespace, so that
I can say red
On 4/25/2013 7:25 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 04/25/2013 07:09 PM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
On 4/25/2013 4:53 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 04/25/2013 04:26 PM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
My question is, once an enumeration is defined, is there a way,
short of element-by-element assignment, to import
On 4/25/2013 8:22 PM, Greg wrote:
On 26/04/2013 3:12 p.m., Glenn Linderman wrote:
On 4/25/2013 7:49 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
You couldn't create an enum of callables, but that would be a
seriously weird thing to do anyway
But aren't all classes callable?
An enum of classes would
On 4/24/2013 1:22 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
On 23.04.2013 19:24, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:04 AM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
On 23.04.2013 17:47, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:22 AM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
Just as reminder:
On 4/15/2013 12:15 AM, Ben Finney wrote:
Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info writes:
On 13/04/13 20:30, Ben Finney wrote:
Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org writes:
A failure to sign the CLA is already a decision not to contribute
to the distribution
As someone who cannot in good faith
On 4/15/2013 4:21 PM, Larry Hastings wrote:
On 04/15/2013 09:31 AM, Eli Bendersky wrote:
Would it make sense to think about adding this in the scope of the
argument clinic work, or is it too unrelated? This seems like a
commonly needed thing for large parts of the stdlib (where the C
On 4/12/2013 3:59 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
class Insect(Enum):
wasp = 1
bee = 1
ant = 2
We'd have Insect.wasp == Insect.bee Insect.ant but Insect.wasp is
not Insect.bee.
can't define two names in the same enum to have the same value, per the PEP.
On 4/1/2013 5:47 PM, Daniel Holth wrote:
users expect .py to be opened with a text editor.
This user expects .py to be executed as an executable script, and thinks
that is the default after an installation of Python on Windows. Windows
has a separate option, Edit, to use to edit things.
On 3/20/2013 5:15 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
Broken (and quirky): it has an absurdly limited output buffer (under a
thousand lines)
People keep claiming that Windows CMD has a limited output buffer. It is
configurable, at least to lines, which is where I have mine set.
That is far too much
On 3/17/2013 8:48 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Mar 17, 2013, at 05:37 PM, Christian Heimes wrote:
Any attempt to fix the XML issues *will* change the behavior of the
library and result into an incompatibility with older releases. Benjamin
doesn't want to change the behavior of our XML libraries.
On 2/19/2013 11:06 AM, Daniel Holth wrote:
This feature does something to remedy the setuptools chicken/egg
problem. We have eliminated the egg ;-)
This is the most artfully crafted comment I've seen on topic on this
list for some months! Thanks!
On 1/13/2013 5:49 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
I agree it makes it obvious what the right default behaviour should
be: flag every FD as sensitive by default, and pass an argument to say
sensitive=False when you want to disable Python's automatic
protections.
sensitive is a bad name... because the
On 1/3/2013 12:13 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
It is a form so technically nothing is being done incorrectly in
changing values based on what you submit, whether you view them stale
or not.
Well, it sounds like a pretty shaky technology foundation, if
simultaneous updates of a shared data
On 1/3/2013 2:43 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Glenn Linderman v+pyt...@g.nevcal.com
mailto:v+pyt...@g.nevcal.com wrote:
On 1/3/2013 12:13 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
It is a form so technically nothing is being done incorrectly in
changing values based
On 12/12/2012 11:32 PM, Janzert wrote:
On 12/13/2012 1:39 AM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
On 12/12/2012 6:10 PM, Janzert wrote:
On 12/12/2012 8:43 PM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
On 12/12/2012 5:36 PM, Brian Curtin wrote:
C:\ProgramData\Python
^ That. Is not the path that the link
On 12/12/2012 5:36 PM, Brian Curtin wrote:
C:\ProgramData\Python
^ That. Is not the path that the link below is talking
about, though.
Making a new top-level directory without asking is obnoxious.
See
On 12/12/2012 6:10 PM, Janzert wrote:
On 12/12/2012 8:43 PM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
On 12/12/2012 5:36 PM, Brian Curtin wrote:
C:\ProgramData\Python
^ That. Is not the path that the link below is talking
about, though.
It actually does; it is rather confusing though
On 12/3/2012 3:42 PM, Gregory P. Smith wrote:
All the core devs I've asked said given all that, I'd prefer the
hairy preprocessor macros. But by the end of the conversation
they'd changed their minds to prefer the custom DSL. Maybe I'll
make a believer out of you too--read on!
On 11/20/2012 12:46 PM, PJ Eby wrote:
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Vinay Sajip vinay_sa...@yahoo.co.uk
mailto:vinay_sa...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Also: what happens when a requirement is for setuptools (= X.Y),
but the
distribute fork hasn't kept pace, and so only supports
On 11/20/2012 1:48 PM, PJ Eby wrote:
(We've been over this before, the last time this discussion came up on
the Distutils-SIG for a previous Metadata PEP a year or two back, but
here goes)
Thanks. I wasn't over there. Makes it clear that clarifying PEPs to
reflect discussions is a good
On 11/12/2012 7:30 AM, Jan Matějek wrote:
I believe the human problem here is that the one tends to gloss over
local variable VARNAME, because it describes VARNAME and you already
think you know what that is, so you don't stop to think about it.
The following would be better in this regard,
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Georg Brandl ge...@python.org wrote:
In total, almost 500 API items are new or improved in Python 3.3.
For a more extensive list of changes in 3.3.0, see
http://docs.python.org/3.3/whatsnew/3.3.html
Reading this to see if I missed anything while
On 8/18/2012 11:47 AM, MRAB wrote:
I vote -0. The issue can also be addressed with a small and simple
helper function that wraps urlparse and compares the query parameter. Or
you cann urlencode() with `sorted(qs.items)` instead of `qs` in the
application.
Hm. That's actually a good point.
On 6/28/2012 9:36 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
When I search PyPI I ignore anything with djange, zope, etc., as I
have zero interest in pulling in a bunch of unrelated packages that I
don't need. If some of these pieces are truly stand-alone it would be
nice if they were presented that way.
+1
On 5/29/2012 3:51 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Victor Stinner
victor.stin...@gmail.com wrote:
I also compared str%args and str.format() with Python 2.7 (byte
strings), 3.2 (UTF-16 or UCS-4) and 3.3 (PEP 393): Python 3.3 is as
fast as Python 2.7 and sometimes faster!
On 5/12/2012 10:50 AM, Eric Snow wrote:
given a normal (dict-based)
object you can use vars() to turn it into a dict:
data = SomeClass(a=1, b=2, c=3)
ns = vars(data)
ns['a']
1
ns['b']
2
ns['c']
3
I'll grant that it doesn't work for some objects (like named tuples),
Why not?
On 5/4/2012 9:39 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
The gist of my response is that the venv 'tail' should way the python
'dog' as little as possbile.
Yes, that was exactly my thought too. But I'm not sure the technology
permits, with Windows not having exec. On the other hand, one might
speculate
On 5/4/2012 8:48 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
CPython is developed, tested, packaged, distributed, and installed as
one unit. It is intended to be run as one package. If something caches
a copy of python.exe, it seems to me that it should check and update
as needed. Could venv check the file date of
On 5/3/2012 2:00 PM, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
I think that .bat files strictly *have* to have CRLF line endings.
Nope. Both .bat and .cmd work fine with LF only in Win7 (and IIRC, in
XP as well, but I just tested Win7)
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On 4/27/2012 12:34 AM, Eric Snow wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Barry Warsawba...@python.org wrote:
It's somewhat of a corner case, but I think a PEP couldn't hurt. The
rationale section would be useful, at least.
On 4/27/2012 11:49 AM, R. David Murray wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:40:43 -0700, Glenn Lindermanv+pyt...@g.nevcal.com
wrote:
On 4/27/2012 12:34 AM, Eric Snow wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Barry Warsawba...@python.org wrote:
It's somewhat of a corner case, but I think a PEP
On 4/27/2012 1:00 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
I'm personally in favour of changing the insertion of '' to sys.path
to inserting the cwd when the interpreter is launched.
+1
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On 4/21/2012 8:53 PM, Brett Cannon wrote:
imp.cache_from_source() (and thus also imp.source_from_cache()) has
special semantics compared to how os.path.join() works. For instance,
if you look at test_imp you will notice it tries to use the same path
separator as is the farthest right in the
On 4/6/2012 4:11 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Another alternative is the public lists-of-clocks.
After watching this thread with amusement and frustration, amusement
because it is so big, and so many people have so many different
opinions, frustration, because it seems that few of the clocks
On 4/2/2012 4:37 AM, Victor Stinner wrote:
The API looks much more complex than the API proposed in PEP 418 just
to get the time. You have to call a function to get a function, and
then call the function, instead of just calling a function directly.
Instead of returning an object with a now()
On 4/2/2012 2:40 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Glenn Lindermanv+pyt...@g.nevcal.com wrote:
One thing I don't like about the idea of fallback being buried under some
API is that the efficiency of that API on each call must be less than the
efficiency of directly
On 3/29/2012 3:50 PM, Brian Curtin wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 17:45, Benjamin Petersonbenja...@python.org wrote:
2012/3/29 Brian Curtinbr...@python.org:
After talking with Martin and several others during the language
summit and elsewhere around PyCon, PEP 397 should be accepted. I
On 3/26/2012 10:19 AM, R. David Murray wrote:
Like Philip, I have*one* window. My window manager (ratpoison) is more
like 'screen' for X: you*can* split the window up, but it is*much* more
useful to have only one window visible at a time, most of the time.
I'm amazed at the number of
On 3/26/2012 10:58 AM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Glenn Linderman wrote:
On 3/26/2012 10:19 AM, R. David Murray wrote:
Like Philip, I have *one* window. My window manager (ratpoison) is
more
like 'screen' for X: you *can* split the window up, but it is *much*
more
useful to have only one window
On 3/26/2012 12:27 PM, PJ Eby wrote:
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Carl Meyer c...@oddbird.net
mailto:c...@oddbird.net wrote:
No disagreement here. I think virtualenv's sweet spot is as a
convenient
tool for development environments (used in virtualenvwrapper fashion,
where
On 3/26/2012 1:21 PM, Glenn Linderman wrote:
Hmm. And here's something else that might be missing: integration of
the launcher with .py files that are actually ZIP archives... where
does it find the #! line? (probably it can't, currently -- I couldn't
figure out how to make it do
On 3/24/2012 11:34 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:
I've also added a little questionable gimmick to the sidebar (when you collapse
it and expand it again, the content is shown at your current scroll location).
It would be educational to see how you pulled that trick! I will look if
I get time.
On 3/24/2012 5:41 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
It's madness to expect web designers to hobble the flexibility of a web
page to cater preferentially for one minority over others.
But largely, the 99% that makes the rest of them look bad, do, in fact,
do exactly that.
On 3/22/2012 10:02 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
As they say, the 99% who are lousy designers give the rest a bad name.
*wink*
:)
My first impression of this page:
http://www.python.org/~gbrandl/build/html/index.html
was that the grey side-bar gives the page a somber, perhaps even
dreary,
On 3/20/2012 11:50 AM, Merlijn van Deen wrote:
As this is being considered an 'incompatible change' on the bug
tracker item [1] in any case, I'd like to mention that this might also
be a convenient moment to re-think the default install location. After
all, software is supposed to be installed
On 3/20/2012 4:25 PM, Mark Hammond wrote:
I think it does. Consider I've installed Python as a system
install. Now I want to install some other package - ideally that
installer will request elevation - all well and good - the .py files
are installed. However, next time I want to run Python,
On 3/19/2012 2:26 AM, Kristján Valur Jónsson wrote:
Hi Carl.
I'm very interested in this work.
At CCP we work heavily with virtual environments. Except that we don't use virtualenv
because it is just a pain in the neck. We like to be able to run virtual python
environments of various types
On 3/19/2012 11:52 AM, Jesse Noller wrote:
I'd like to discuss top-posting.
Somewhere else, please.
Oh, that was your point :)
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