One worry with an official sumo distribution is that it could become
an excuse for *not* putting something in the stdlib.
Otherwise it's an interesting idea.
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On 27 May 2010 00:11, geremy condra debat...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not clear, you seem to be arguing that there's a market for many
augmented python distributions but not one. Why not just have one
that includes the best from each domain?
Because that's bloat. You later argue that a web
OK, I had an idea here:
How about that the people affected by difficulties in getting software
approved got together to put together not a sumo-python, but a
python-extras package? That package could include all the popular
stuff, like SciPy, Numpy, twisted, distribute, buildout, virtualenv,
pip,
Paul Moore writes:
On 27 May 2010 00:11, geremy condra debat...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not clear, you seem to be arguing that there's a market for many
augmented python distributions but not one. Why not just have one
that includes the best from each domain?
Because that's bloat. You
Lennart Regebro writes:
One worry with an official sumo distribution is that it could become
an excuse for *not* putting something in the stdlib.
Otherwise it's an interesting idea.
On the contrary, that is the meat of why it's an interesting idea.
I really don't think the proponents of
On 27/05/2010 16:56, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Paul Moore writes:
On 27 May 2010 00:11, geremy condradebat...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not clear, you seem to be arguing that there's a market for many
augmented python distributions but not one. Why not just have one
that
Lennart Regebro writes:
If licensing is a problem I guess you'd need to have permission to
relicense them all to the Python license,
Licensing compatibility is only a problem for copyleft, but most
copyleft licenses have mere aggregation is not derivation clauses.
Corporate concern about
Michael Foord writes:
To my mind one of the most important benefits of a sumo style
distribution is not just that it easily provides a whole bunch of useful
modules - but that it *highlights* which modules are the community
blessed best of breed.
That has several problems.
(1) There
On 27 May 2010 16:56, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.org wrote:
We'll just have to agree to disagree, then. Plenty of evidence has
been provided; it just doesn't happen to apply to you. Fine, but I
wish you'd make the to me part explicit, because I know that it does
apply to others,
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Le mercredi 26 mai 2010 à 13:19 +0100, Paul Moore a écrit :
I'm not sure how a Sumo approach would work in practical terms, and
this thread isn't really the place to discuss, but there's a couple of
points I think are
On 26 May 2010 13:46, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
This is not what I'm suggesting at all. The stdlib wouldn't shrink
(well, we could dump outdated modules but that's a separate decision).
Ah, OK. In that case, I see the argument for a Sumo distribution as
weak for a different
Le mercredi 26 mai 2010 à 23:41 +0100, Paul Moore a écrit :
But a general
purpose Sumo distribution *on top of* the stdlib? I'm skeptical.
(Personally, my essential extras are pywin32, cx_Oracle and that's
about it - futures might make it if it doesn't get into the stdlib,
but that's about
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 May 2010 13:46, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
This is not what I'm suggesting at all. The stdlib wouldn't shrink
(well, we could dump outdated modules but that's a separate decision).
Ah, OK. In that
On 27/05/10 09:11, geremy condra wrote:
Specialised distributions are another matter - I can see a web stack
distribution comprising your TurboGears example (or should it be
Django, or...?). Enthought essentially do that for a Scientific
Python distribution. There could easily be others. But a
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27/05/10 09:11, geremy condra wrote:
Specialised distributions are another matter - I can see a web stack
distribution comprising your TurboGears example (or should it be
Django, or...?). Enthought essentially do that
At 11:41 PM 5/26/2010 +0100, Paul Moore wrote:
I'm genuinely struggling to see how a Sumo distribution ever comes
into being under your proposal. There's no evidence that anyone wants
it (otherwise it would have been created by now!!)
Actually, sumo distributions *have* been created; it's just
Because scientists, financial analysts, web designers, etc all have
different needs.
My point is just that a web designer probably doesn't care if he's
got numpy, nor does a mathematician care if he has cherrypy
onboard. They only care when the tools they need aren't there,
which is
Hello,
sorry to interrupt your discussion but..
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 04:09, Yaniv Aknin ya...@aknin.name wrote:
Because scientists, financial analysts, web designers, etc all have
different needs.
My point is just that a web designer probably doesn't care if he's
got numpy, nor does a
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