Re: [Python-Dev] Draft PEP for time zone support.

2012-12-13 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/13/2012 1:06 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: Or ask the user where to put it. If we ask where it should be installed, then we need a registry setting for that Right. So I think that asking is not an option at all. It either goes in %PRO

Re: [Python-Dev] Draft PEP for time zone support.

2012-12-13 Thread Glenn Linderman
On 12/12/2012 11:32 PM, Janzert wrote: On 12/13/2012 1:39 AM, Glenn Linderman wrote: On 12/12/2012 6:10 PM, Janzert wrote: On 12/12/2012 8:43 PM, Glenn Linderman wrote: On 12/12/2012 5:36 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: >> C:\ProgramData\Python ^ That. Is not the path that the link be

Re: [Python-Dev] Draft PEP for time zone support.

2012-12-13 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 12/13/2012 1:06 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: >> All in all I would say I would prefer to install this per Python. > > Then explicit update requires multiple downloads or copying. This is a > violation of DRY. If if is not too large, it would n

Re: [Python-Dev] Draft PEP for time zone support.

2012-12-13 Thread Antoine Pitrou
Le Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:07:34 +0100, Lennart Regebro a écrit : > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: > > On 12/13/2012 1:06 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: > >> All in all I would say I would prefer to install this per Python. > > > > Then explicit update requires multiple downloads or

Re: [Python-Dev] Draft PEP for time zone support.

2012-12-13 Thread Christian Heimes
Am 13.12.2012 10:07, schrieb Lennart Regebro: > Yes, but this is no different that if you want to keep any library > updated over multiple Python versions. And I don't want to invent > another installation procedure that works for just this, or have a > little script that checks periodically for up

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: expose TCP_FASTOPEN and MSG_FASTOPEN

2012-12-13 Thread Benjamin Peterson
2012/12/13 Antoine Pitrou : > On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 04:24:54 +0100 (CET) > benjamin.peterson wrote: >> http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/5435a9278028 >> changeset: 80834:5435a9278028 >> user:Benjamin Peterson >> date:Wed Dec 12 22:24:47 2012 -0500 >> summary: >> expose TCP_FASTOP

Re: [Python-Dev] Draft PEP for time zone support.

2012-12-13 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/13/2012 4:07 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 12/13/2012 1:06 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: All in all I would say I would prefer to install this per Python. Then explicit update requires multiple downloads or copying. This is a violation o

[Python-Dev] Downloads page: Which version of Python should be listed first?

2012-12-13 Thread Chris Angelico
The default version shown on http://docs.python.org/ is now 3.3.0, which I think is a Good Thing. However, http://python.org/download/ puts 2.7 first, and says: """If you don't know which version to use, start with Python 2.7; more existing third party software is compatible with Python 2 than Pyt

Re: [Python-Dev] Downloads page: Which version of Python should be listed first?

2012-12-13 Thread Ross Lagerwall
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 07:57:52AM +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > The default version shown on http://docs.python.org/ is now 3.3.0, > which I think is a Good Thing. However, http://python.org/download/ > puts 2.7 first, and says: > > """If you don't know which version to use, start with Python 2.

Re: [Python-Dev] [Distutils] Is is worth disentangling distutils?

2012-12-13 Thread Antonio Cavallo
I'll have a look into distutils2, I tough it was (another) dead end. I every case my target is py2k (2.7.x) and I've no case for transitioning to py3k (too much risk). Lennart Regebro wrote: On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Antonio Cavallo wrote: Hi, I wonder if is it worth/if there is a

Re: [Python-Dev] [Distutils] Is is worth disentangling distutils?

2012-12-13 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Antonio Cavallo wrote: > I'll have a look into distutils2, I tough it was (another) dead end. > I every case my target is py2k (2.7.x) and I've no case for transitioning > to py3k (too much risk). distutils2 started as a copy of distutils, so it's hard to tell t

[Python-Dev] Mercurial workflow question...

2012-12-13 Thread Trent Nelson
Scenario: I'm working on a change that I want to actively test on a bunch of Snakebite hosts. Getting the change working is going to be an iterative process -- lots of small commits trying to attack the problem one little bit at a time. Eventually I'll get to a point where I'm

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial workflow question...

2012-12-13 Thread Larry Hastings
On 12/13/2012 05:21 PM, Trent Nelson wrote: Thoughts? % hg help rebase //arry/ ___ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial workflow question...

2012-12-13 Thread Nick Coghlan
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Larry Hastings wrote: > On 12/13/2012 05:21 PM, Trent Nelson wrote: > > Thoughts? > > > % hg help rebase > And also the histedit extension (analagous to "git rebase -i"). Both Git and Hg recognise there is a difference between interim commits and ones you

Re: [Python-Dev] Downloads page: Which version of Python should be listed first?

2012-12-13 Thread Eric Snow
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > The default version shown on http://docs.python.org/ is now 3.3.0, > which I think is a Good Thing. However, http://python.org/download/ > puts 2.7 first, and says: > > """If you don't know which version to use, start with Python 2.7; more >

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial workflow question...

2012-12-13 Thread R. David Murray
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:21:24 -0500, Trent Nelson wrote: > - Use a completely separate clone to house all the intermediate > commits, then generate a diff once the final commit is ready, > then apply that diff to the main cpython repo, then push that. > This ap

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial workflow question...

2012-12-13 Thread Chris Jerdonek
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:48 PM, R. David Murray wrote: > On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:21:24 -0500, Trent Nelson wrote: >> - Use a completely separate clone to house all the intermediate >> commits, then generate a diff once the final commit is ready, >> then apply that diff

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial workflow question...

2012-12-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 14, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >Both Git and Hg recognise there is a difference between interim commits and >ones you want to publish and provide tools to revise a series of commits >into a simpler set for publication to an official repo. One of the things I love about Bazaar i

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial workflow question...

2012-12-13 Thread Ned Deily
In article <20121214024824.3bccc250...@webabinitio.net>, "R. David Murray" wrote: > On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 20:21:24 -0500, Trent Nelson wrote: > > - Use a completely separate clone to house all the intermediate > > commits, then generate a diff once the final commit is ready, > >

Re: [Python-Dev] Mercurial workflow question...

2012-12-13 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
R. David Murray writes: > those commits...if you don't want those intermediate commits in the > official repo, then why is a diff/patch a bad way to achieve that? Because a decent VCS provides TOOWTDI. And sometimes there are different degrees of "intermediate", or pehaps you even want to slic

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Using 'long double' to force this structure to be worst case aligned is no

2012-12-13 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 03:05:19 +0100 (CET) > gregory.p.smith wrote: > > Using 'long double' to force this structure to be worst case aligned > is no > > longer required as of Python 2.5+ when the gc_refs changed from an int (4 > > bytes) t

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Using 'long double' to force this structure to be worst case aligned is no

2012-12-13 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Gregory P. Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > >> On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 03:05:19 +0100 (CET) >> gregory.p.smith wrote: >> > Using 'long double' to force this structure to be worst case aligned >> is no >> > longer required

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Using 'long double' to force this structure to be worst case aligned is no

2012-12-13 Thread Gregory P. Smith
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 08:16:27 +0100 > Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > > On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 03:05:19 +0100 (CET) > > gregory.p.smith wrote: > > > Using 'long double' to force this structure to be worst case aligned > is no > > > longer require