Re: [Python-Dev] Python REPL doesn't work on Windows over remote powershell session (winrm)

2018-08-25 Thread David Bolen
ZHU Xiang writes: > === > Steps to reproduce > > # 1/ pre-install python on server1 (server 1 is a windows os) > # 2/ from a powershell console on server0, type below 2 commands: > enter-pssession server1 > python > > Expected behavior > # The python >>> prompt

Re: [Python-Dev] Can we clean up the buildbots please?

2015-05-23 Thread David Bolen
Larry Hastings la...@hastings.org writes: Is MSVS 2015 the only supported compiler for Python 3.5 on Windows? What's the other buildbot using MSVS 2015? For a while I think the only buildbot was my 8.1 slave, but I believe at this point Jeremy may also have it on his 7 slave. The latest on my

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbot x86 XP-4 3.x doesn't compile anymore: drop it?

2015-03-28 Thread David Bolen
Victor Stinner victor.stin...@gmail.com writes: Would it be possible to fix this buildbot, or to turn it off? (...) By the way, do we seriously want to support Windows XP? I mean, *who* will maintain it (no me sorry!). I saw recent changes to explicitly *drop* support for Windows older than

Re: [Python-Dev] ubuntu buildbot

2015-02-25 Thread David Bolen
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2014, at 00:33, David Bolen wrote: Yeah, it definitely needs it. Historically it was intentional as my own servers were all on 8.04, but the last of those moved 12.04 last year. I think there's

Re: [Python-Dev] ubuntu buildbot

2014-11-23 Thread David Bolen
Yeah, it definitely needs it. Historically it was intentional as my own servers were all on 8.04, but the last of those moved 12.04 last year. I think there's already a 12.04 buildbot, so perhaps 14.04 would be better? I do prefer sticking with an LTS. It'll need to move to 64-bit given the

Re: [Python-Dev] Who's using VS/Windows to work on Python?

2014-11-13 Thread David Bolen
Steve Dower steve.do...@microsoft.com writes: Also, who currently owns the Windows buildbots and are you willing/able to add a VS 2015 Preview installation (or give me access so I can do it)? (...) I've got several of the Windows buildbots, and could add this. Is there benefit to just

Re: [Python-Dev] Who's using VS/Windows to work on Python?

2014-11-13 Thread David Bolen
Steve Dower steve.do...@microsoft.com writes: Starting with just the Win7 or Win8 one would be fine. Python 3.5 won't support XP, and VS 2015 doesn't support XP (though I believe it will still be able to build for XP, just not *on* XP). Ok, I'll probably try the Win8 buildbot first then.

Re: [Python-Dev] XP buildbot problem cloning from hg.python.org

2014-10-27 Thread David Bolen
Ned Deily n...@acm.org writes: Update: after consulting with Donald on IRC, it appears that the problem was on the python.org end and is now fixed. David, is it now working again for you? Sorry for the delay - yes, it appears to be working again for me as well. And it looks like clones

Re: [Python-Dev] XP buildbot problem cloning from hg.python.org

2014-10-25 Thread David Bolen
Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io writes: What version of OpenSSL is it using. I'm using the pre-built Windows Mercurial installer, but if I unpack the included library.zip, the SSLEAY32.DLL shows version 0.9.8r. This is from the 3.1.2 install I just did a few hours ago. It appears that hg 2.5.2

Re: [Python-Dev] XP buildbot problem cloning from hg.python.org

2014-10-25 Thread David Bolen
Do you mean your local repo? If so, I don't have a local repo at this point - the failure is during the first clone. -- David On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Steve Dower steve.do...@microsoft.com wrote: I was seeing this recently and had to run recover on my repo (not sure what the

Re: [Python-Dev] XP buildbot problem cloning from hg.python.org

2014-10-25 Thread David Bolen
Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io writes: I have an idea, can you run https://bpaste.net/show/c5d7cd102f5b and tell me what it outputs? Both on a machine that works and one that doesn’t. All but Linux (so XP/7 buildbots, XP standalone, OSX) return: ('DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA', 'TLSv1/SSLv3', 128)

Re: [Python-Dev] XP buildbot problem cloning from hg.python.org

2014-10-25 Thread David Bolen
As another data point, I've tried cloning randomly selected other repositories from hg.python.org, and smaller repositories (distutils2, peps, jython to name a few) are all working fine under XP, even though with jython for example, the clone takes longer in terms of wall time than I'll often see

[Python-Dev] XP buildbot problem cloning from hg.python.org

2014-10-24 Thread David Bolen
Starting yesterday, my XP buildbot began failing to execute clone operations against hg.python.org. There's not a lot of data being given aside from a transaction abort message (and my buildbot log showing the hg command exiting), and I'm wondering if something may be amiss on the server or its

Re: [Python-Dev] XP buildbot problem cloning from hg.python.org

2014-10-24 Thread David Bolen
Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io writes: Is this using HTTPS or SSH. Um, good question - whatever the buildbot build process uses. Looking at the slave log on buildbot.python.org (I don't get the hg output locally), appears to be http (it's cloning http://hg.python.org/cpython) - though I

Re: [Python-Dev] XP buildbot problem cloning from hg.python.org

2014-10-24 Thread David Bolen
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net writes: Have you tried running the hg clone manually from the buildbot? You could try to add --debug to get more info where the thing breaks. Yes, I had but pretty much got the same output as the buildbot slave. But I just tried --traceback and it's

Re: [Python-Dev] XP buildbot problem cloning from hg.python.org

2014-10-24 Thread David Bolen
David Bolen db3l@gmail.com writes: which appears to die mid-stream while receiving the manifests. So I'm sort of hoping there might be some record server-side as to why things are falling apart mid-way. Just to follow-up to myself, I get the same same error trying to do a clone from my

Re: [Python-Dev] Questions regarding Windows buildbots

2014-05-14 Thread David Bolen
Brian Curtin br...@python.org writes: On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Claudiu Popa pcmantic...@gmail.com wrote: (...) - If we can acquire the privilege by elevating our process, does the Windows buildbots have UAC enabled and if so, how's the notification setting configured? For instance,

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython (merge 3.3 - default): Merge fix from 3.3 into default.

2013-09-01 Thread David Bolen
Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu writes: On 9/1/2013 5:04 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: Probably because they don't have the hgeol extension enabled. Yes, I believe that's correct, at least for my Windows buildbots. Since the tests also failed on installed Python, it seems that the .msi installer

Re: [Python-Dev] Green buildbot failure.

2013-08-11 Thread David Bolen
Richard Oudkerk shibt...@gmail.com writes: On 11/08/2013 11:00am, Antoine Pitrou wrote: You've got the answer at the bottom: program finished with exit code 0 So for some reason, the test suite crashed, but with a successful exit code. Buildbot thinks it ran fine. Was the test

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue 18312 fix broke buildbots

2013-07-02 Thread David Bolen
Eric V. Smith e...@trueblade.com writes: http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20Tiger%202.7/builds/2030 http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20Tiger%203.3/builds/742 http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20Tiger%203.x/builds/6522

Re: [Python-Dev] hg.python.org Mercurial upgrade

2013-01-23 Thread David Bolen
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net writes: I've upgraded the Mercurial version on hg.python.org. If there any problems, don't hesitate to post here. (apart from the connectivity problems we seem to have from time to time and which shouldn't be related) I'm not sure if this is related to the

Re: [Python-Dev] Proposed schedule for Python 3.4

2012-10-04 Thread David Bolen
mar...@v.loewis.de writes: We once had nightly builds of the Windows installers. It required a dedicated buildbot operator, since the process tended to break. For what it's worth, I'd be willing to try to re-institute the daily Windows installer builds if they'd see usage, but I suspect I'll

Re: [Python-Dev] Daily DMG builds

2012-10-01 Thread David Bolen
Ned Deily n...@acm.org writes: In article 20121001211812.4c40a...@pitrou.net, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: Hello, It seems that the daily DMG builds have been failing for some time on the default branch: http://buildbot.python.org/daily-dmg/ Since there has been no

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots missing

2012-04-22 Thread David Bolen
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net writes: Well, the reason it can't qualify for the stable list right now is that there's a recurrent test_logging failure on it: http://bugs.python.org/issue14644 Yeah, I don't know that I'm necessarily suggesting it be in the stable set as just mentioning

Re: [Python-Dev] OS X buildbots missing

2012-04-21 Thread David Bolen
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net writes: For the record, we don't have any stable OS X buildbots anymore. If you want to contribute a build slave (I hear we may have Apple employees reading this list), please take a look at http://wiki.python.org/moin/BuildBot I realize it may not qualify

[Python-Dev] Buildbot status web pages

2011-06-16 Thread David Bolen
I've been receiving 503 errors from the buildbot web status pages beneath www.python.org/dev/buildbot for a day or two now - is there perhaps something that needs a bit of a kick-start? Thanks. -- David ___ Python-Dev mailing list

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildbots and regrtest timeout

2011-06-06 Thread David Bolen
Victor Stinner victor.stin...@haypocalc.com writes: But today I saw a a buildbot timeout without any traceback: a possible hang in test_io on x86 FreeBSD 7.2 3.x buildbot, command timed out: 3900 seconds without output. I realized that some buildbots (all buildbots?) override the

[Python-Dev] Notification for buildbot builder changes for slaves?

2011-03-30 Thread David Bolen
I was wondering if it might be possible to have a channel (message here, email to a list of slave owners or whatever) to mention when the set of builders for the slaves is getting adjusted? A new builder tree can burn a good deal of disk space in some cases for example (each tree adds in the

Re: [Python-Dev] Have we lost changeset info in the buildbots

2011-03-21 Thread David Bolen
Victor Stinner victor.stin...@haypocalc.com writes: Le lundi 14 mars 2011 à 15:36 -0400, David Bolen a écrit : Speaking of bbreport, I sometimes use the published page on that site (http://code.google.com/p/bbreport/wiki/PythonBuildbotReport) to check over things, but looking at it today

[Python-Dev] buildbot VM exhausted in test_crashers

2011-03-19 Thread David Bolen
I've run out of virtual memory on my Ubuntu buildbot today (and I think the FreeBSD buildbots a few days ago). Those have physically OOMd/restarted the VM. The Windows buildbots have been giving me VM warnings, but appear to have gotten through it. I believe it's the test_crashers test, which

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot VM exhausted in test_crashers

2011-03-19 Thread David Bolen
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net writes: I've enabled the button to cancel pending builds in the Web UI. You should be able to bring back the Ubuntu slave online. You can do the same (cancel pending builds) for other slaves if needed. Thanks. Is that a single button somewhere or do I need

Re: [Python-Dev] buildbot VM exhausted in test_crashers

2011-03-19 Thread David Bolen
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com writes: I don't want to give up completely on the idea just yet, but I'll experiment in the sandbox before I turn it back on. If you get to that point again, I'd also be willing to pick a time to manually check out the right branch or whatever and try it

Re: [Python-Dev] cpython: Exercise crashers to ensure they are still covering known error cases

2011-03-17 Thread David Bolen
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote: This has broken many buildbots. I'm pretty sure I know which one is the problem child, so I just pushed a fix which should get that one dying reliably on more platforms. On

Re: [Python-Dev] Have we lost changeset info in the buildbots

2011-03-14 Thread David Bolen
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net writes: I suggest you try http://code.google.com/p/bbreport/, which provides a very nice command-line interface. Speaking of bbreport, I sometimes use the published page on that site (http://code.google.com/p/bbreport/wiki/PythonBuildbotReport) to check over

Re: [Python-Dev] funky buildbot

2011-03-10 Thread David Bolen
Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com writes: I'm trying to get a new buildbot in the swim of things, and it keeps getting into this state where the buildslave process seems caught in an endless loop. Perhaps someone here knows why? Do you have any information as to what it is doing while in the

Re: [Python-Dev] funky buildbot

2011-03-10 Thread David Bolen
Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com writes: David Bolen db3l@gmail.com wrote: Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com writes: I'm trying to get a new buildbot in the swim of things, and it keeps getting into this state where the buildslave process seems caught in an endless loop. Perhaps someone

Re: [Python-Dev] funky buildbot

2011-03-10 Thread David Bolen
Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com writes: David Bolen db3l@gmail.com wrote: There used to be a way to request a ping from the master side (I think on the same page you could manually run a build from) that I would used to force it to recognize a slave was really down, but after the web

Re: [Python-Dev] Stable buildbots

2011-01-30 Thread David Bolen
Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com writes: Presumably, you're inserting a pskill command somewhere into the actual build process. I don't know much about buildbot, but I thought that was controlled by the master and/or the Python build scripts, neither of which I can change. If I want to add a

Re: [Python-Dev] 3.2b2 fails test suite on (my) Windows XP

2011-01-12 Thread David Bolen
Brian Curtin brian.cur...@gmail.com writes: http://bugs.python.org/issue9116 covers this issue. The reason it doesn't fail on any of the build slaves is because they modify a registry value for Windows Error Reporting to not display the pop-up window, or at least mine does. I think I got the

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue #10348: concurrent.futures doesn't work on BSD

2010-12-30 Thread David Bolen
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de writes: 1. Does it still fail on FreeBSD 7.3+? Yes, it still fails. The limits (30 semaphores) haven't changed. It also remains untunable. Yeah, my recollection about 7.3 appears to have been remembering when the kernel module was included by default as

Re: [Python-Dev] Issue #10348: concurrent.futures doesn't work on BSD

2010-12-29 Thread David Bolen
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de writes: I don't have a good suggestion (or a computer with a keyboard anywhere near me) right now, but making a migration/fallback to SYSV style semaphores a release blocker seems like a mistake to me. And indeed, I don't propose to make that a release

Re: [Python-Dev] kill_python on windows buildbots

2010-12-09 Thread David Bolen
Hirokazu Yamamoto ocean-c...@m2.ccsnet.ne.jp writes: Yes, but test can freeze. In that case, I'm worried that (snip) rt.bat # freeze here (will be halt by buildbot) vcbuild kill_python_d # Will this be called? in test.bat. Yeah, you're right. It may be impossible to

Re: [Python-Dev] kill_python on windows buildbots

2010-12-07 Thread David Bolen
Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com writes: Maybe belt-and-suspenders it in both places. The clean batch file is also called from the build step, so relocating it there should maintain the existing behavior as well. Hirokazu (ocean-city) pointed out in my new issue an earlier issue he created

[Python-Dev] kill_python on windows buildbots (was Re: Stable buildbots)

2010-12-06 Thread David Bolen
I previously wrote: I suspect the problem may be on the identify which process to kill rather than the kill it part, but it's definitely going to take time to figure that out for sure. While the approach kill_python takes is much more appropriate, since we don't currently have multiple

Re: [Python-Dev] Stable buildbots

2010-11-23 Thread David Bolen
Trent Nelson tr...@snakebite.org writes: That's interesting. (That kill_python.exe doesn't kill the wedged processes, but pskill does.) kill_python is pretty simple, it just calls TerminateProcess() after acquiring a handle with the relevant PROCESS_TERMINATE access right. (...) Are you

Re: [Python-Dev] Stable buildbots

2010-11-15 Thread David Bolen
Brian Curtin brian.cur...@gmail.com writes: Is the dialog closer script available somewhere? I'm guessing this is the same script that closes the window which pops up during test_capi's crash? Not sure about that specific test, as I won't normally see the windows. If the failure is causing a

Re: [Python-Dev] Stable buildbots

2010-11-14 Thread David Bolen
Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com writes: Do we have any idea why the workaround to avoid the popup windows stopped working? (assuming it ever worked reliably - I thought it did, but that impression may have been incorrect) Oh, the pop-up handling for the RTL dialogs still seems to be working

Re: [Python-Dev] Stable buildbots

2010-11-14 Thread David Bolen
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de writes: This is what kill_python.exe is supposed to solve. So I recommend to investigate why it fails to kill the hanging Pythons. Yeah, I know, and I can't say I disagree in principle - not sure why Windows doesn't let the kill in that module work (or if

Re: [Python-Dev] Stable buildbots

2010-11-14 Thread David Bolen
Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com writes: Do you run your slave as a service? (And for that matter, what do other Windows slave owners do?) Are there any best practices for ongoing admin of a Windows buildslave that might be worth collecting together? (I'll try to put some notes on what I've

Re: [Python-Dev] Stable buildbots

2010-11-13 Thread David Bolen
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net writes: (even though the Windows buildbots give a rather unconventional meaning to the word stability). Nag, nag, nag :-) There's been a bit of an uptick in the past few weeks with hung python_d processes (not a new issue, but it ebbs and flows), so I'm

Re: [Python-Dev] Too many open files errors on x86 FreeBSD 7.2 3.x buildbot

2010-11-08 Thread David Bolen
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven asmo...@in-nomine.org writes: -On [20101108 00:36], David Bolen (db3l@gmail.com) wrote: Well, I think the SYSV semaphores are either less limited or at least more adjustable. They've certainly been around longer in FreeBSD. The POSIX semaphore support

Re: [Python-Dev] Too many open files errors on x86 FreeBSD 7.2 3.x buildbot

2010-11-07 Thread David Bolen
Victor Stinner victor.stin...@haypocalc.com writes: You wrote that the POSIX semaphore are very limited. Do it mean that there is another kind of semaphore will an higher limit? Well, I think the SYSV semaphores are either less limited or at least more adjustable. They've certainly been

Re: [Python-Dev] Too many open files errors on x86 FreeBSD 7.2 3.x buildbot

2010-11-06 Thread David Bolen
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Victor Stinner victor.stin...@haypocalc.com I noticed OSError: [Errno 23] Too many open files in system errors on your FreeBSD buildbot. I would like to know if you configured a limit on the open files or maybe of child processes on this buildbot or not, or if

Re: [Python-Dev] SSH access against buildbot boxes

2010-11-06 Thread David Bolen
Giampaolo Rodolà g.rod...@gmail.com writes: In such cases I would find more easy to be able to connect to the machine and test myself rather than create a separate branch, commit, schedule a buildbot run, wait for it to complete and see whether everything is green. I agree with both Stephen

Re: [Python-Dev] Regular scheduled releases

2010-10-30 Thread David Bolen
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de writes: People will never ever test nightly builds. Been there, done that. Instead, the nightly build process will break, and nobody will fix it for months (or even complain, for that matter). Certainly seems to be past experience. I know Martin knows this,

Re: [Python-Dev] Stable build slaves authority

2010-10-13 Thread David Bolen
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de writes: Please be aware that Windows poses its own challenges. Often, builds or testsuite runs end up with popup windows, which then hang subsequent builds. You often get dozens of them to click away. So operating a Windows slave is much more tedious than a

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Builder: x86 Windows7 3.x OpenSSL compile error

2010-09-20 Thread David Bolen
Hirokazu Yamamoto ocean-c...@m2.ccsnet.ne.jp writes: Hello. I've sent following mail to buildbot manager, but I found that buildbot page saids the problem of unsable bot should be sent to python-...@python.org. So I'll do it. (I'm fine with direct email for any of my build slaves, and it's

Re: [Python-Dev] Builder: x86 Windows7 3.x OpenSSL compile error

2010-09-20 Thread David Bolen
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net writes: (...) test test_ssl failed -- Can't read certificate file b'D:\\cygwin\\home\\db3l\\buildarea\\3.x.bolen-windows7\\build\\lib\\test\\keycert.pem' But the aforementioned certificate file is in the SVN tree and other buildslaves have no problem

[Python-Dev] Windows buildbots MSVC RTL popups

2010-08-30 Thread David Bolen
Since the recent history of my two Windows buildbots has turned ugly, I figured I'd mention that they both (XP and Windows 7) have started generating quite a few GUI C++ RTL runtime pop-up assertions, which has been throwing a wrench into things until they get manually cleared. I first noticed

Re: [Python-Dev] proto-pep: plugin proposal (for unittest)

2010-08-02 Thread David Bolen
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk writes: I would be interested in hearing from other Mac users as to where they would look for configuration files for command line tools - in ~ or in ~/Library/Preferences? My primary personal machine has been OSX for years now, and as someone who lives

[Python-Dev] MSDN subscription extensions?

2010-07-20 Thread David Bolen
As one of the beneficiaries of the efforts (much appreciated) last year to obtain Microsoft MSDN subscriptions for developers/testers (in my case, primarily buildbot operation), I was wondering if anyone might know if those subscriptions will be able to be renewed this year? -- David

Re: [Python-Dev] red buildbots on 2.7

2010-06-21 Thread David Bolen
Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com writes: Thanks for the alert. I've killed the stuck test and should see some runs going through now. Shame, really, I was getting used to seeing a nice page of all green results... In my experience, my OSX and Windows buildbots need some manual TLC on an ongoing

Re: [Python-Dev] please take a look at buildbot result

2010-04-29 Thread David Bolen
Bill Janssen jans...@parc.com writes: Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com wrote: As Antoine noted the test failures are unexpected, could you check if the tests pass if you do the build and testrun manually? What about readline? Darwin doesn't have it (or rather, it has a different

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

2010-04-24 Thread David Bolen
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk writes: 10.6.3 and yes I have Tcl and Tk in /Library/Frameworks. How do I determine which versions they are? You can use info patchlevel in tclsh - assuming you're running a tclsh linked to your /Library version (a normal Tcl install puts this in

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

2010-04-24 Thread David Bolen
Michael Foord fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk writes: Hmmm... looks like a 32 / 64 bit issue, which I believe may be the expected result when trying to build on Snow Leopard (?). I think so - I haven't tried a 64-bit build myself, but there's a comment in setup.py indicating that none of the Tcl/Tk

Re: [Python-Dev] MSDN licenses available for python-dev

2010-04-19 Thread David Bolen
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net writes: Does it include a license for Windows itself? Does it allow me to install and run it in a VM? If so, I'm interested. Yes, in fact, it's due to the availability of this license that I was able to set up the Win7 buildbot. -- David

Re: [Python-Dev] Automatic installer builds (was Re: Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X))

2010-04-18 Thread David Bolen
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de writes: I do currently have a DMG built for 2.7 Beta 1, if it would be useful. As I said before: if you would plan to do this on a regular basis, for all upcoming releases, that would certainly be a good thing. No argument - just figured I'd offer to get

Re: [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

2010-04-18 Thread David Bolen
Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com writes: On 18 Apr, 2010, at 17:17, Martin v. Löwis wrote: Ronald Oussoren wrote: That *is* trivial: use Mac/BuildScript/build-installer.py on OSX 10.5. Hmm. When I tried it (on some 2.5 release), it took me two days until it produced something.

Re: [Python-Dev] Automatic installer builds (was Re: Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X))

2010-04-17 Thread David Bolen
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de writes: This actually happened on Windows - some people now recommend to run the buildbot scripts on a regular developer checkout, because they supposedly do the right things. I have to admit that I'm guilty of this (though to be fair

Re: [Python-Dev] Automatic installer builds (was Re: Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X))

2010-04-15 Thread David Bolen
Ronald Oussoren ronaldousso...@mac.com writes: Speaking of which... I have a mac-mini that could be used for a buildbot. How much work is needed to kickstart a buildbot, taking into account that I'd prefer to have a buildbot with different configure-flags that the default unix build (that is,

Re: [Python-Dev] Automatic installer builds (was Re: Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X))

2010-04-15 Thread David Bolen
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de writes: Not sure what you mean by make available - I thought this is just a matter of configure options? Building as a framework, yes. But I think there's some steps to take to then have the test python binary use the locally built framework while running

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of 2.7b1?

2010-04-13 Thread David Bolen
Brian Curtin brian.cur...@gmail.com writes: The tests are run on a native Win32 build as compiled by VS2008. The functionality is Win32 specific and wouldn't work on Cygwin, so the tests are skipped there. I believe Cygwin is used for kicking off the tests and other buildbot stuff, but they

Re: [Python-Dev] __file__

2010-02-27 Thread David Bolen
Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info writes: Personally, I can't imagine ever wanting to ship a .pyc module without the .py, but since Python already gives people the opportunity to shoot themselves in the foot, meh, we're all adults here. Not sure I've seen it mentioned in this thread, but

Re: [Python-Dev] /trunk test_distutils failing on Mac OS X 10.5

2009-11-29 Thread David Bolen
Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com writes: I'm not seeing the test_distutils failure you report on my own 10.5 machine, for some reason. I don't think it's OSX specific. My FreeBSD slaves (both 6.4 and 7.2) have been getting the same error. It seems related to the sticky bit on /tmp and the

Re: [Python-Dev] Building a Windows MSI for Python /trunk

2009-11-26 Thread David Bolen
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de writes: It was too difficult to get right, plus nobody was interested in using the daily MSI files. At some point, it was broken for several months (IIRC), with nobody reporting that breakage. So when we noticed, we just turned the service off. Sounds

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildslave gets intermittent errors in the svn step

2009-11-24 Thread David Bolen
Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com writes: buildbot.interfaces.BuildSlaveTooOldError: This buildslave (moore-windows) does not know about multiple branches, and using mode=update would probably build the wrong tree. Refusing to build. Please upgrade the buildslave to buildbot-0.7.0 or newer.

Re: [Python-Dev] Buildslave gets intermittent errors in the svn step

2009-11-24 Thread David Bolen
Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com writes: Hmm, wasn't me :-) The reason field on the build is blank, so this looks like it's an automatic build. If it's got an SVN tag indicated, and you can checkout that tag on your slave, then it's probably not the scenario that I was thinking of. In my case,

Re: [Python-Dev] Add an optional timeout to lock operations

2009-11-18 Thread David Bolen
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net writes: I've submitted a patch (*) to add an optional timeout to locking operations (Lock.acquire() etc.). Since it's a pretty basic functionality, I would like to know if there was any good reason for not doing it. I always assumed it was because as a

[Python-Dev] External module tests skipping on Windows build slaves?

2009-11-13 Thread David Bolen
While working with the Windows (and now Windows 7) build slaves I've been noticing that a number of unexpected test skips are occurring, mostly for external modules like ssl, bz2, tk, etc... However, I know for a fact that those libraries are being fetched and built, so I was a little perplexed

Re: [Python-Dev] External module tests skipping on Windows build slaves?

2009-11-13 Thread David Bolen
David Bolen db3l@gmail.com writes: (...) I would have sworn they used to get run, but now I'm not so sure. Perhaps I'm remembering older Python releases with VS.NET 2003, since the MSVC9 versions of the CRT and the SXS stuff was new with VS 2008 I think. Does anyone happen to know

Re: [Python-Dev] Status of the Buildbot fleet and related bugs

2009-11-13 Thread David Bolen
R. David Murray rdmur...@bitdance.com writes: The buildbot pages appear to be pretty messed up now. I get many 404s (ex: the above url, the all stable builders page), although some seem to work (ex: the all builders page), and if I stick an 'all' into the URL for my buildbot page I can get

[Python-Dev] Updates to XP-4 and FreeBSD build slaves

2009-11-08 Thread David Bolen
I think in a prior discussion, it was suggested that build slave updates were ok for this list - I apologize to those who may not be interested. I've just completed some updates to my two build slaves. XP-4 is now running XP Pro SP3 (was SP2) and is using the full version of VS 2008 (was

Re: [Python-Dev] Possible language summit topic: buildbots

2009-10-25 Thread David Bolen
not sure whether that mechanism might have been removed. For the system messages, there is a way to turn them off in the parent process. David Bolen (IIRC) had developed a patch, but I think this patch only runs on his system(s). Yes, process-stopping dialogs have probably been the single most

Re: [Python-Dev] Possible language summit topic: buildbots

2009-10-25 Thread David Bolen
exar...@twistedmatrix.com writes: This sounds like something that should be reported upstream. Particularly if you know how to reproduce it. Has it been? No, largely because I can't reproduce it at all. It's happened maybe 4-5 times in the past 2 years or so. All that I see is that my end

Re: [Python-Dev] Possible language summit topic: buildbots

2009-10-25 Thread David Bolen
MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com writes: Couldn't you write a script to check the status periodically? Sure, I suppose scraping the web status page would work. If it happened frequently I'd probably be forced to do something like that, but it's relatively low frequency (though I guess it does

Re: [Python-Dev] thinking about 2.7

2009-09-25 Thread David Bolen
exar...@twistedmatrix.com writes: It's easy for someone to volunteer to set up a new slave. It's even easy to make sure it keeps running for 6 months. But it's not as easy to keep it running indefinitely. This isn't about the software involved (at least not entirely). It's about someone

Re: [Python-Dev] VC++ versions to match python versions?

2009-08-17 Thread David Bolen
Chris Withers ch...@simplistix.co.uk writes: Is the Express Edition of Visual C++ 2008 suitable for compiling packages for Python 2.6 on Windows? (And Python 2.6 itself for that matter...) Yes - it's currently being used on my buildbot, for example, to build Python itself. Works for 2.6 and

Re: [Python-Dev] Microsoft MSDN

2009-08-13 Thread David Bolen
Christian Heimes li...@cheimes.de writes: Steve Holden wrote: I sent fourteen requests for licenses in to Microsoft. I've asked them to let me know which they grant (since they may choose to limit the number) and will inform you all personally when I hear their decision. I've received my

Re: [Python-Dev] py3k buildbots

2009-06-05 Thread David Bolen
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net writes: Only one of the py3k buildbots seems up: http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/3.x.stable/ Strange - everything looks good on my buildbot end (XP-4), including an established TCP session back to dinsdale. Not sure why the master thinks it's offline.

Re: [Python-Dev] Google Wave as a developer communication tool

2009-06-04 Thread David Bolen
Aahz a...@pythoncraft.com writes: It sounds like Wave requires a high-powered browser, similar to Google Maps. That makes me -1 because I want to continue using Lynx. I'm not sure - I think you can implement your own choices at different points. What's interesting to me so far is less the

Re: [Python-Dev] [buildbot] some build slaves in bad shape

2009-05-28 Thread David Bolen
Tarek Ziadé ziade.ta...@gmail.com writes: - x86 XP-4 (trunk and 3x) is throwing an no space left on device error when it compiles the sqlite module in its temp dir Ooops, that's mine. Geez - it's a VM, but has a 10GB C: drive, and the actual build slave has its working directory on a separate

Re: [Python-Dev] [buildbot] some build slaves in bad shape

2009-05-28 Thread David Bolen
David Bolen db3l@gmail.com writes: Ooops, that's mine. Geez - it's a VM, but has a 10GB C: drive, and the actual build slave has its working directory on a separate virtual drive. Wonder what the heck has filled up the system drive. I'm working on it now though. Well, looks like

Re: [Python-Dev] Test failures under Windows?

2009-03-31 Thread David Bolen
Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com writes: Btw, I am working on finding out the test suite failures for test_multiprocessing. This is all well and good, but I still haven't seen any plausible reason for not preventing these popups (in favor of stderr failures) during buildbot test

Re: [Python-Dev] Test failures under Windows?

2009-03-31 Thread David Bolen
Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de writes: Notice, however, that the feature was never present in the trunk. Yep - would be nice if it were to get backported to trunk at some point but that's a separate discussion ... presumably at some point py3k will be the trunk anyway, and for better or

Re: [Python-Dev] Test failures under Windows?

2009-03-31 Thread David Bolen
Kristján Valur Jónsson krist...@ccpgames.com writes: But again, it shows how useful assertions can be and why we ought not to disable them. Note that just to be clear, I'm certainly not advocating the disabling of CRT assertions - just the redirection of them so they don't prevent unattended

Re: [Python-Dev] Test failures under Windows?

2009-03-30 Thread David Bolen
Hirokazu Yamamoto ocean-c...@m2.ccsnet.ne.jp writes: CRT Assertion was totally disabled before, but recently was enabled, and workarounds were patched for problematic functions. (ex: fdopen and dup) Probably this *patch* is not perfect. See http://bugs.python.org/issue4804 Ah - that ticket

Re: [Python-Dev] Test failures under Windows?

2009-03-29 Thread David Bolen
David Bolen db3l@gmail.com writes: From what I can see though, the tools/buildbot/test.bat file no longer adds the -n option that it used to, although I'm unclear on why it might have been removed. Perhaps this was just a regression that was accidentally missed, as it appears to have

Re: [Python-Dev] Test failures under Windows?

2009-03-25 Thread David Bolen
Mark Hammond skippy.hamm...@gmail.com writes: The issue was that Python unconditionally changed the behaviour of the CRT, not only during the test suite. Hmm... I was more or less referring to the state of the py3k tree as of, say, r57823 back in 2007. It appeared to just add access to the

Re: [Python-Dev] Test failures under Windows?

2009-03-25 Thread David Bolen
Curt Hagenlocher c...@hagenlocher.org writes: The variation that goes through assert.c should write to stderr for a console-mode application, so it's reasonable to assume that we're hitting the other code path -- and that Mark's suggestion to use CrtSetReportMode would address the issue.

Re: [Python-Dev] Test failures under Windows?

2009-03-24 Thread David Bolen
Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net writes: Am I the only one getting those? By the way, what happened to the Windows buildbots? Oops - sorry, mine (XP-4) apparently got stuck with C++ debug assertion dialogs (an assertion from the internal close.c module) from python_d during some earlier

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