On 21.03.2012 00:17, R. David Murray wrote:
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:38:53 +0100, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Hi all,
recently I've grown a bit tired of seeing our default Sphinx theme,
especially as so many other projects use it. I decided to play around
with something clean this
On 21.03.2012 01:57, Raymond Hettinger wrote:
On Mar 20, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net mailto:g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Hi all,
recently I've grown a bit tired of seeing our default Sphinx theme,
especially as so many other projects use it. I
I'm wondering whether Python Core should participate
in GSoC 2012 or not, as core contributors have shown
little interest in acting as mentors in the past.
If you are a core committer and volunteer as GSoC
mentor for 2012, please let me know by Friday
(March 23rd).
Regards,
Martin
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 07:00, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
OK, that seems to be the main point people make... let me see if I can
come up with a better compromise.
Would it be possible to limit the width of the page? On my 1920px
monitor, the lines get awfully long, making them harder
Turn your monitor portrait or make the window smaller :)
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On 21/03/2012 08:25, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 07:00, Georg Brandlg.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
OK, that seems to be the main point people make... let me see if I can
come up with a better compromise.
Would it be possible to limit the width of the page? On my 1920px
monitor,
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 09:33:13AM +, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
On 21/03/2012 08:25, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 07:00, Georg Brandlg.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
OK, that seems to be the main point people make... let me see if I can
come up with a better compromise.
Would it
Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl writes:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 07:00, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
OK, that seems to be the main point people make... let me see if I
can come up with a better compromise.
Would it be possible to limit the width of the page? On my 1920px
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:39:41 -0400
Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 3/20/2012 6:38 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:
The current green on the front page is too heavy.
Green?
hmm... you mean blue, right?
:)
Antoine.
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On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:58:57 -0400
Ned Batchelder n...@nedbatchelder.com wrote:
On 3/20/2012 6:38 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:
Let me know what you think, or play around and send some improvements.
(The collapsible sidebar is not adapted to it yet, but will definitely
be integrated before I
On 21/03/2012 09:33, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
On 21/03/2012 08:25, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 07:00, Georg Brandlg.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
OK, that seems to be the main point people make... let me see if I can
come up with a better compromise.
Would it be possible to limit
On 3/21/2012 6:16 AM, Oleg Broytman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 09:33:13AM +, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
On 21/03/2012 08:25, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 07:00, Georg Brandlg.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
OK, that seems to be the main point people make... let me see if I can
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:58:21 +0100, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
On 21.03.2012 00:17, R. David Murray wrote:
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:38:53 +0100, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Hi all,
recently I've grown a bit tired of seeing our default Sphinx theme,
especially as so
21.03.12 14:38, Ned Batchelder написав(ла):
The best thing to do is to set a max-width in ems, say 50em. This leaves
the text at a reasonable width, but adapts naturally for people with
larger fonts.
It's good for books, magazines, and newspapers, but not for technical
site. ;)
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Hello Kristján,
I think there's one important (albeit odd and
21.03.12 03:58, Ned Batchelder написав(ла):
Books, magazines, and newspapers look good with full justification, web
pages do not. Can we switch to left-justified instead?
You can add line
p {text-align: left !important}
to your browser custom stylesheet.
If you are using Firefox or Chrome
On 3/21/2012 9:44 AM, Serhiy Storchaka wrote:
21.03.12 03:58, Ned Batchelder написав(ла):
Books, magazines, and newspapers look good with full justification, web
pages do not. Can we switch to left-justified instead?
You can add line
p {text-align: left !important}
to your browser custom
Mark, MAL, Martin, Tarek,
Could you comment on this?
This is in the context of changing the name of the 'Scripts' directory
on windows to 'bin'. Éric brings up the point (explained more below)
that if we make this change, packages made/installed the new packaging
infrastructure and those
Lindberg, Van wrote:
Mark, MAL, Martin, Tarek,
Could you comment on this?
This is in the context of changing the name of the 'Scripts' directory
on windows to 'bin'. Éric brings up the point (explained more below)
that if we make this change, packages made/installed the new packaging
On 21 March 2012 13:38, Ned Batchelder n...@nedbatchelder.com wrote:
On 3/21/2012 6:16 AM, Oleg Broytman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 09:33:13AM +, Jonathan Hartley wrote:
On 21/03/2012 08:25, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 07:00, Georg Brandlg.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
21.03.12 16:18, Ned Batchelder написав(ла):
We could just as easily choose to make the site
left-justified, and let the full-justification fans use custom
stylesheets to get it.
I find justified text convenient and pleasant for the eyes. Many people
hate left-aligned text. I think that the
On 2012-03-21, at 11:06 AM, Łukasz Rekucki wrote:
FYI, the current paragraph font size on docs.python.org is 16px, while
for http://www.python.org/~gbrandl/build/html/ it's 13px, so
increasing that should help readability :) You can use @media queries
to adjust it to screen resolution, which
On Mar 21, 2012 5:44 AM, Ned Batchelder n...@nedbatchelder.com wrote:
The best thing to do is to set a max-width in ems, say 50em. This leaves the
text at a reasonable width, but adapts naturally for people with larger fonts.
Please, no, not even this improved version of coddling. If you're
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:38:53PM +0100, Georg Brandl wrote:
recently I've grown a bit tired of seeing our default Sphinx theme,
especially as so many other projects use it. I decided to play around
with something clean this time, and this is the result:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Ned Batchelder n...@nedbatchelder.com wrote:
The challenge for the maintainer of the docs site is to choose a good design
that most people will see. We're bound to disagree on what that design
should be, and I suggest that probably none of us are designer
If I can get my five cents, I will tell about my impressions. I really
liked the background of allocated blocks (such as notes and code
snippets) has become less diverse (but still visible). The border around
these blocks have become more accurate and more pleasant to emphasize
blocks. It is
21.03.12 18:00, Guido van Rossum написав(ла):
(Can you see why I invented a whitespace-sensitive language? I have a
whitespace-sensitive brain. :-)
It should be added to favorite quotes.
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On 3/21/2012 7:09 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 21:39:41 -0400
Terry Reedytjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 3/20/2012 6:38 PM, Georg Brandl wrote:
The current green on the front page is too heavy.
Green?
hmm... you mean blue, right?
:)
Yeh, a muddy slightly greenish blue. I would
On 3/21/2012 1:04 PM, Serhiy Storchaka wrote:
If I can get my five cents, I will tell about my impressions. I really
liked the background of allocated blocks (such as notes and code
snippets) has become less diverse (but still visible). The border
around these blocks have become more accurate
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Ned Batchelder n...@nedbatchelder.com wrote:
You can use Ctrl-+ to increase the size of the text, and modern browsers
remember that for the next time you visit the site.
That doesn't mean the web designer shouldn't think at least twice
before specifying a
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
That doesn't mean the web designer shouldn't think at least twice
before specifying a smaller font than the browser default.
Yet 90% of designers (or more) insist on making text insanely small, commonly
specifying the
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 02:40:04PM -0400, Ned Batchelder wrote:
You can use Ctrl-+ to increase the size of the text, and modern
browsers remember that for the next time you visit the site.
Browsers usually remember the setting for the entire site, not only
documentation.
Oleg.
--
Oleg
On 3/21/2012 2:46 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Ned Batcheldern...@nedbatchelder.com wrote:
You can use Ctrl-+ to increase the size of the text, and modern browsers
remember that for the next time you visit the site.
That doesn't mean the web designer shouldn't
On 3/21/2012 3:06 PM, Fred Drake wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Guido van Rossumgu...@python.org wrote:
That doesn't mean the web designer shouldn't think at least twice
before specifying a smaller font than the browser default.
Yet 90% of designers (or more) insist on making text
On Mar 21, 2012 12:00 PM, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
On Mar 21, 2012 5:44 AM, Ned Batchelder n...@nedbatchelder.com wrote:
The best thing to do is to set a max-width in ems, say 50em. This
leaves the text at a reasonable width, but adapts naturally for people with
larger fonts.
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Ned Batchelder n...@nedbatchelder.com wrote:
On 3/21/2012 2:46 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Ned Batcheldern...@nedbatchelder.com
wrote:
You can use Ctrl-+ to increase the size of the text, and modern browsers
remember that
On 3/21/2012 3:45 PM, Ethan Furman wrote:
Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Ned Batchelder
n...@nedbatchelder.com wrote:
The challenge for the maintainer of the docs site is to choose a
good design
that most people will see. We're bound to disagree on what that design
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On 03/21/2012 03:13 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote:
On 3/21/2012 3:06 PM, Fred Drake wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Guido van Rossumgu...@python.org
wrote:
That doesn't mean the web designer shouldn't think at least twice
before specifying a
Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Ned Batchelder n...@nedbatchelder.com wrote:
The challenge for the maintainer of the docs site is to choose a good design
that most people will see. We're bound to disagree on what that design
should be, and I suggest that probably none
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Ned Batchelder n...@nedbatchelder.com wrote:
There are bad designers, or more to the point, designers who favor the
overall look of the page at the expense of the utility of the page. That
doesn't mean all designers are bad, or that design is bad. Don't throw
On 3/21/2012 4:38 PM, Fred Drake wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Ned Batcheldern...@nedbatchelder.com wrote:
There are bad designers, or more to the point, designers who favor the
overall look of the page at the expense of the utility of the page. That
doesn't mean all designers are
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:39:18 -0700, Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Ned Batchelder n...@nedbatchelder.com
wrote:
Personally, I think two Python projects that have focused on docs and done a
good job of it are Django and readthedocs.org. Â Perhaps
I tripped over this one trying to make one of our Python at work
Windows compatible. We had no idea that a magic 'SystemRoot'
environment variable would be required, and it was causing issues for
pyzmq.
It might be nice to reflect the findings of this email thread on the
subprocess documentation
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/730d5357
changeset: 75850:730d5357
user: Stefan Krah sk...@bytereef.org
date: Wed Mar 21 18:25:23 2012 +0100
summary:
Issue #7652: Integrate the decimal floating point libmpdec library to speed
up the decimal module. Performance
Ned Batchelder wrote:
Any of the tweaks people are suggesting could be applied individually
using this technique. We could just as easily choose to make the site
left-justified, and let the full-justification fans use custom
stylesheets to get it.
Is it really necessary for the site to
On 22/03/2012 1:22 AM, Lindberg, Van wrote:
Mark, MAL, Martin, Tarek,
Could you comment on this?
Eric is correct - tools will be broken by this change. However, people
seem willing to push forward on this and accept such breakage as the
necessary cost.
MAL, in his followup, asks what the
+10 for new design.
+1 for respecting default font size rather than div.body {font-size: smaller;}
Users loving smaller font can set their browser's default font size.
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Georg Brandl g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Hi all,
recently I've grown a bit tired of seeing our
On 21 March 2012 22:43, Mark Hammond skippy.hamm...@gmail.com wrote:
On 22/03/2012 1:22 AM, Lindberg, Van wrote:
Mark, MAL, Martin, Tarek,
Could you comment on this?
Eric is correct - tools will be broken by this change. However, people seem
willing to push forward on this and accept
*Hi,
I am a graduating Berkeley student that loves python and would like to
propose an enhancement to python. My proposal introduces a concept of
slicing generator. For instance, if one does x[:] it returns a list which
is a copy of x. Sometimes programmers would want to iterate over a slice of
To close the loop, I've rejected the PEP, adding the following rejection notice:
I'm rejecting this PEP. A number of reasons (not exhaustive):
* According to Raymond Hettinger, use of frozendict is low. Those
that do use it tend to use it as a hint only, such as declaring
global or
2012/3/22 Guido van Rossum gu...@python.org:
To close the loop, I've rejected the PEP, adding the following rejection
notice:
I'm rejecting this PEP. (...)
Hum, you may specify who is I in the PEP.
Victor
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On 03/21/2012 07:39 PM, Huan Do wrote:
*Hi,
I am a graduating Berkeley student that loves python and would like to
propose an enhancement to python. My proposal introduces a concept of
slicing generator. For instance, if one does x[:] it returns a list
which is a copy of x. Sometimes
My proposed syntax is x(:)
Change the Python syntax is not a good start. You can already
experiment your idea using the slice() type.
We would have to do something like this.
sum(x[:-20:2])
Do you know the itertools module? It looks like itertools.islice().
Victor
@Ethan Furman
each call to x(:) would return a different iterator, so both sides will
have their own information about where they are. Also it is the case that
checking for equality of generators does not make the generators to expand
out, so checking for equality becomes to checking if they are
Cleaning up the absurd CC line
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Paul Moore p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree on all points here. I don't understand quite why backward
compatibility is being treated so lightly here. But equally, I've made
my points and have little further to add.
As a
Huan Do wrote:
*Hi,
I am a graduating Berkeley student that loves python and would like to
propose an enhancement to python. My proposal introduces a concept of
slicing generator. For instance, if one does x[:] it returns a list
which is a copy of x. Sometimes programmers would want to
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Huan Do dob...@gmail.com wrote:
I was not completely familiar with itertools but itertools.islice() seems to
have the functionality that I propose. It is great that there already exist
a solution that does not change python's syntax. Unless anyone wants to
On the other hand, exposing the existing read-only dict proxy as a
built-in type sounds good to me. (It would need to be changed to
allow calling the constructor.)
I wrote a small patch to implement this request:
http://bugs.python.org/issue14386
I also opened the following issue to support
Good evening,
If you are a core committer and volunteer as GSoC
mentor for 2012, please let me know by Friday
(March 23rd).
There is a number of interesting things to implement in packaging, and
at least one student who manifested their interest, but unfortunately I
am presently unable to say
Le 06/03/2012 15:31, Giampaolo Rodolà a écrit :
That's why I once proposed to include whatsnew.rst changes every time
a new feature is added/committed.
Assigning that effort to the release manager or whoever is supposed to
take care of this, is both impractical and prone to forgetfulness.
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