>> See also PEP 501, which could be used for i18n.
>
> I don't see how this immediately helps the OP, who wants a *literal*
> expression that automatically invokes the translation machinery as
> well as the interpolation machinery.
Another way forward could be a preprocessor. All this can be
Eric V. Smith writes:
> See also PEP 501, which could be used for i18n.
I don't see how this immediately helps the OP, who wants a *literal*
expression that automatically invokes the translation machinery as
well as the interpolation machinery. The translation machinery needs
access to the raw
After spending more time thinking about the implementation I came to a
conclusion that
it's not easy to generalize replacement of classes.
Yes, with some work it's possible to ensure that old name references a new one.
But that's not sufficient. If new class has different interface then user's
On 2018-09-17 11:49, James Lu wrote:
I agree completely.
On Sep 17, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Anders Hovmöller wrote:
It’s been almost a week since this “discussion” first started. Can we please
stop this in the name of productive work on python-ideas?
A better use of time might be to discuss
Monty Python had the goal of making people laugh, while python-ideas
has the goal of improving Python. With those priorities, we can have
fun, but not at the expense of potential contributions and
contributors.
Other people aren't perfect, but sometimes you have to adapt to them
for the sake of
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 10:50 AM Jacco van Dorp wrote:
>
> Op ma 17 sep. 2018 om 16:40 schreef Wes Turner :
>>
>> I think it's meant to be ironic?
>>
>> Why would that be the first sentence of a poem about software and the Python
>> newsgroup/mailing list community?
>>
>> A certain percentage of
On Mon., Sep. 17, 2018, 13:21 James Lu, wrote:
> How can the Zulip chat be joined? Im interested in consolidating all the
> discussion into one centralized forum.
>
No consolidation is happening yet. We're testing out mailing list
alternatives on smaller, more manageable lists first before we
On 09/17/2018 01:16 PM, James Lu wrote:
So... we’re going to be using discourse instead of Python-ideas mailing list?
No. None of the mailing lists will be migrated at this time. The plan is to get a test instance set up, tried for a
while on a specific issue or two, and evaluate our
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 4:16 PM James Lu wrote:
[..]
> So... we’re going to be using discourse instead of Python-ideas mailing list?
> Or will we only try that until Discourse works for “core sprints”?
Well, as I said: "If it works well we'll consider using it for other
discussions in the
Simply use:
https://python.zulipchat.com/login/
Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 à 16:20, James Lu a écrit :
> How can the Zulip chat be joined? Im interested in consolidating all the
> discussion into one centralized forum.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 17, 2018, at 3:35 PM, Philippe Godbout wrote:
How can the Zulip chat be joined? Im interested in consolidating all the
discussion into one centralized forum.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 17, 2018, at 3:35 PM, Philippe Godbout wrote:
>
> Also, by restricting to python.org email address, do we not run the risk of
> cutting off a lot of
> It was decided to try https://www.discourse.org at the core dev
> sprints. We'll likely try it for the upcoming governance model/vote
> discussions. If it works well we'll consider using it for other
> discussions in the future.
>
> Let's table this topic for now as we're unlikely to
So...
Also, by restricting to python.org email address, do we not run the risk of
cutting off a lot of would be contributor?
Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 à 15:23, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer <
arj.pyt...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> py already has a Zulip chat
>
> Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
> Mauritius
>
It was decided to try https://www.discourse.org at the core dev
sprints. We'll likely try it for the upcoming governance model/vote
discussions. If it works well we'll consider using it for other
discussions in the future.
Let's table this topic for now as we're unlikely to
(a) try anything
py already has a Zulip chat
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I agree completely.
I propose Python register a trial of Stack Overflow Teams. Stack Overflow Teams
is essentially your own private Stack Overflow. (I will address the private
part later.) Proposals would be questions and additions or criticism would be
answers. You can express your support
On 09/17/2018 11:06 AM, Danilo J. S. Bellini wrote:
The idea is simple: restore the "next" built-in and the "StopIteration"
propagation behavior from Python 3.6.
Unlikely to happen. In 3.6 a deprecation warning started being issued for next inside generators that said it would
raise a
See also PEP 501, which could be used for i18n.
Eric
On 9/17/2018 1:42 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Hans Polak writes:
> On 17/09/18 09:53, Niki Spahiev wrote:
> >
> > Is it possible to use f-strings when making multilingual software?
> > When i write non-hobby software translation
Hi,
The idea is simple: restore the "next" built-in and the "StopIteration"
propagation behavior from Python 3.6.
I'm using Python 3.7 for a while (as it's the default in Arch Linux), and
there's one single backwards incompatible change from Python 3.6 that is
breaking the code of some packages
Hans Polak writes:
> On 17/09/18 09:53, Niki Spahiev wrote:
> >
> > Is it possible to use f-strings when making multilingual software?
> > When i write non-hobby software translation is hard requirement.
>
> At this moment, it seems that this is not possible.
No, it's not possible.
> If
> It’s been almost a week since this “discussion” first started. Can we please
> stop this in the name of productive work on python-ideas?
A better use of time might be to discuss moving to a better forum system where
moderation is easier/possible. Email somehow has a shape that makes those
It’s been almost a week since this “discussion” first started. Can we please
stop this in the name of productive work on python-ideas? Frankly, you don’t
need to reply just because you can point out something wrong with someone
else’s argument. Post because it’s worthwhile to hear, not because
Zen of The Python Mailing List
>>> import that
on topic is better than off topic
the dish of toxicity is made up of opinion attacking
irony is it's fine herbs
top posting should be counselled
homeworks are not to be done
mail clients are the tastes and colours of life
a mailing list serves it's
Op ma 17 sep. 2018 om 16:40 schreef Wes Turner :
> I think it's meant to be ironic?
>
> Why would that be the first sentence of a poem about software and the
> Python newsgroup/mailing list community?
>
> A certain percentage of people might be offended by changing the first
> line (the frame of)
I think it's meant to be ironic?
Why would that be the first sentence of a poem about software and the
Python newsgroup/mailing list community?
A certain percentage of people might be offended by changing the first line
(the frame of) of said poem; to "I'm better than you".
Dominance and
This proposal unfortunately carries the risk of reminding people of
"CORBA", a technology that was once regarded as the highest pinnacle of the
development of distributed systems, before it was sidelined by XMLRPC, then
SOAP, then Docker containers exchanging Protobuf messages over WebSockets.
My
I love the Zen of Python and I occasionally cite one in a commit. Usually it's
either flat/nested or the one about namespaces.
I have never used beautiful/ugly. I think it would be incredibly conceited to
cite it at any commit or code review. I don't think it serves anything. However
I would
Hi everyone,
on behalf of the moderators… please, let’s stop discussing who accused whom of
what, and either stick to the discussion at hand or be silent. If you can’t
make a point without aggression or name calling, then it’s not a point you
should be making. (That’s a general statement about
It's not like the Monty Python (whom the language was named after)
would have dared mocking the discourse and manners of all kinds of
social groups, let alone have a laugh at the expense of beliefs and
ideologies.
Regards
Antoine.
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 08:25:27 -0400
Calvin Spealman
wrote:
>
I am very disappointed in the existence of this thread. Mocking discourse
is extremely unpythonic.
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 2:54 AM Jacco van Dorp wrote:
> Yeah, sounds about as sensible as the recent "ban ugly" campaign.
> +1.
>
> Op zo 16 sep. 2018 om 15:49 schreef Wes Turner :
>
>> Anyways,
if (out.of.subject).pingpong:
time to let the thread go
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On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 3:17 AM Jacco van Dorp wrote:
>
> Op zo 16 sep. 2018 om 05:40 schreef Franklin? Lee
> :
>>
>> Jacco:
>> - This is completely disrespectful and way over the line. Don't try to
>> make a psychological evaluation from two emails, especially when it's
>> just someone having
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 09:40, Franklin? Lee
wrote:
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 2:04 PM Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 13:32:26 -0400
> > "Franklin? Lee"
> > wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 4:14 AM Antoine Pitrou
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, right.
> > > >
> > > >
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Niki Spahiev wrote:
> On 14.09.2018 12:33, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Hans Polak wrote:
>>>
>>> I have recently updated my code to use the more pythonic f-string instead
>>> of
>>> '{}'.format()
>>
>>
>> Well there's your problem
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 2:04 PM Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 13:32:26 -0400
> "Franklin? Lee"
> wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 4:14 AM Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah, right.
> > >
> > > You know, when I was pointing out Calvin not being very brave by
> > > attacking
On 17/09/18 09:53, Niki Spahiev wrote:
Is it possible to use f-strings when making multilingual software?
When i write non-hobby software translation is hard requirement.
At this moment, it seems that this is not possible.
My use case is not very unique and that's why I wrote the proposal
@SamanthaQuan
Beautiful is a degree above the good. Beautiful in the context applied
defines the refined, with a nuance of excellence.
As the definition of beauty is not standard, it is what appeals to an
individual. It is not only about passing the functional quality test, it is
about
On 14.09.2018 12:33, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Hans Polak wrote:
I have recently updated my code to use the more pythonic f-string instead of
'{}'.format()
Well there's your problem right there. Don't change your string
formatting choice on that basis. F-strings
Op zo 16 sep. 2018 om 05:40 schreef Franklin? Lee <
leewangzhong+pyt...@gmail.com>:
> I am very disappointed with the responses to this thread. We have
> mockery, dismissiveness, and even insinuations about OP's
> psychological health. Whether or not OP is a troll, and whether or not
> OP's idea
Yeah, sounds about as sensible as the recent "ban ugly" campaign.
+1.
Op zo 16 sep. 2018 om 15:49 schreef Wes Turner :
> Anyways, speaking of dragons, here are some ideas for new logos:
>
> "Strong Bad Email #58: Dragon"
> https://youtu.be/90X5NJleYJQ
>
>
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