Re: [Python-ideas] New Project to Capture summaries from this

2019-03-28 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:07 PM Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > Chris Angelico writes: > > > General principle: People who complain about email are using > > suboptimal clients, people who complain about non-email systems are > > using suboptimal services. And there's nothing that's truly

Re: [Python-ideas] New Project to Capture summaries from this

2019-03-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Chris Angelico writes: > General principle: People who complain about email are using > suboptimal clients, people who complain about non-email systems are > using suboptimal services. And there's nothing that's truly optimal in > either case (some email clients do come close, but only for

Re: [Python-ideas] New explicit methods to trim strings

2019-03-28 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Anders Hovmöller writes: > Sure. And if library authors want to support older versions they'll > have to vendor this into their own code, You (indirectly) argue below that they can't, as a reason for including the change. You can't have it both ways. > just like always. This seems totally

Re: [Python-ideas] New Project to Capture summaries from this

2019-03-28 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:52 PM Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 03:25:34PM -, Richard Whitehead wrote: > > Chris, > > > > As a new member to this list, I can tell you that searching for relevant old > > content was effectively impossible, so I'm all for some way of doing

Re: [Python-ideas] New Project to Capture summaries from this

2019-03-28 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:56 AM David Mertz wrote: > > That said, if someone writes a FAQ about this mailing list, the first answer > can be "We are not moving discussion to GitHub / Slack / Discuss / Reddit / > StackOverflow / MediaWiki / > graffiti on popular buildings / etc" > That last

Re: [Python-ideas] New Project to Capture summaries from this

2019-03-28 Thread David Mertz
Dropping the mailing list is another topic that often comes up, and is always a terrible idea. Every suggester had a different platform in mind, only consistent in all being vastly worse than email for this purpose That said, if someone writes a FAQ about this mailing list, the first answer can

Re: [Python-ideas] New Project to Capture summaries from this

2019-03-28 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 03:25:34PM -, Richard Whitehead wrote: > Chris, > > As a new member to this list, I can tell you that searching for relevant old > content was effectively impossible, so I'm all for some way of doing that. "Effectively impossible" is a gross exaggeration. The old

Re: [Python-ideas] Unified style of cache management API

2019-03-28 Thread Serhiy Storchaka
28.03.19 19:45, Brett Cannon пише: So I would say that a cache-clearing function convention would be a reasonable starting point. If that turns out to not be enough for folks we can talk about expanding it, but I think we should start small and grow from there as needed. So what name would

Re: [Python-ideas] Unified style of cache management API

2019-03-28 Thread Brett Cannon
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 10:34 AM Serhiy Storchaka wrote: > 27.03.19 15:46, Ma Lin пише: > > re module [1] and struct module [2] have module-level cache for compiled > > stuffs. > > Other third-party modules may also need cache for something. > > > > Do we need an unified cache management API

Re: [Python-ideas] New Project to Capture summaries from this

2019-03-28 Thread Rhodri James
On 28/03/2019 15:25, Richard Whitehead wrote: Chris, As a new member to this list, I can tell you that searching for relevant old content was effectively impossible, so I'm all for some way of doing that. Please can I make a more radical suggestion, though: Drop the mailing list. How about a

Re: [Python-ideas] New Project to Capture summaries from this

2019-03-28 Thread Christopher Barker
> > there's been lots of discussion about that in the past. > Indeed. Personally, I’m all for keeping the mailing list. See past discussions for the advantage. I do think it might be a good idea to move to a gitHub repo once a topic gets past the vague idea stage to the hammer out a proposal

Re: [Python-ideas] New Project to Capture summaries from this

2019-03-28 Thread Lysandros Nikolaou
Hi Richard, there's been lots of discussion about that in the past. You can check out https://discuss.python.org, which is the current most popular idea about an alternative. It has not been decided if the mailing lists will be dropped or not though, as far as I know. Lys On Thu, Mar 28, 2019

Re: [Python-ideas] New Project to Capture summaries from this

2019-03-28 Thread Richard Whitehead
Chris, As a new member to this list, I can tell you that searching for relevant old content was effectively impossible, so I'm all for some way of doing that. Please can I make a more radical suggestion, though: Drop the mailing list. How about a GitHub repo - a specific one (with no code),

Re: [Python-ideas] New explicit methods to trim strings

2019-03-28 Thread Anders Hovmöller
>>> All of this would be well served by a 3rd party library on PyPI. Strings >>> already have plenty of methods (probably too many). Having `stringtools` >>> would be nice to import a bunch of simple functions from. >> >> I respectfully disagree. This isn't javascript where we are OK with