Re: Multiplication

On 2024-04-01 12:35, Joel Goldstick via Python-list wrote: On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 1:26 PM Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list ^^^ from math import * a = 2 b = 3 print( a * b ) I guess the operator "*" can be imported from any module... :-) No import is necessary. Of

Re: Checking if email is valid

On 2023-11-07 08:40, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: If you, as a web developer, want the user to enter a text-message capable phone number, then ASK FOR THAT! And you may as well ask if they even want you to send texts whether they can technically receive them or not. -- D'Arcy J.M.

Re: Checking if email is valid

On 2023-11-05 06:48, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote: Sometimes I think that these sorts of stupid, wrong, validation are the fault of idiot managers. When it's apostrophes though I'm suspicious that it may be idiot programmers who don't know how to prevent SQL injection attacks without just

Re: Checking if email is valid

On 2023-11-05 00:39, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: Definitely. Syntactic e-mail address "validation" is one of the most useless and widely broken things on the Interwebs. People who do anything other than require an '@' (and optionally make you enter the same @-containing string twice)

Re: Checking if email is valid

On 2023-11-02 00:18, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: Yes, it would be nice if there was a syntax for sending a test message sort of like an ACK that is not delivered to the recipient but merely results in some status being sent back such as DELIVERABLE or NO SUCH USER or even MAILBOX FULL. It

Re: Checking if email is valid

On 2023-11-02 02:04, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 15:20, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: Yes, it would be nice if there was a syntax for sending a test message sort of like an ACK that is not delivered to the recipient but merely results in some status being

Re: Checking if email is valid

On 2023-11-01 17:17, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 08:09, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: Make sure it has an '@' in it. Possibly require at least one '.' after the '@'. No guarantee that there'll be a dot after the at. (Technically there's no guarantee of

Re: Information about Dying kernel

On 2022-08-07 21:38, Paul Bryan wrote: Have you tried turning it off and back on again? Thank you, Roy. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain Vybe Networks Inc. A unit of Excelsior Solutions Corporation - Propelling Business Forward http://www.VybeNetworks.com/ IM:da...@vybenetworks.com VoIP:

Replacement for Mailman

Given that mailman still runs under 2.7 and that's being deprecated, does anyone have a suggestion for a replacement? -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain Vybe Networks Inc. A unit of Excelsior Solutions Corporation - Propelling Business Forward http://www.VybeNetworks.com/ IM:da...@vybenetworks.com VoIP:

Re: Help Please

On 2021-03-26 12:42 p.m., Igor Korot wrote: On top of that - usual stanza applies: 1. OS - Windows, Linux, Mac? 2. OS version? 3. Python version? 4. Are you able to run python interpretor? 5. Socks version you are trying to install? 6. Was install successful? 7. Use a subject that describes

Re: Please don't feed the trolls

On 2021-03-06 4:24 p.m., Terry Reedy wrote: Trolling, among other things, is fishing with a moving line, especially with a revolving lure, as from a moving boat.  A troll, among other things, is that method or the lure used. You are confusing "troll" with "trawl" -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain Vybe

Re: Cannot marshal objects

On 11/27/20 4:05 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote: I am getting this error. I assume you mean the email subject. It doesn't work in 3.8 either: Yes I do and that's too bad. but that's not surprising to me. The marshal module is more-or-less meant to serialize Python byte code. Pickle is more

Cannot marshal objects

I am getting this error. I found this recipe to fix it: from xmlrpclib import Marshaller from decimal import Decimal def dump_decimal(self, value, write): write("") write(str(value)) write("\n") Marshaller.dispatch[Decimal] = dump_decimal That seems to be for Python 2. I am

Re: Dataframe to postgresql - Saving the dataframe to memory using StringIO

On 10/22/20 7:23 AM, Marco Sulla wrote: I would add that usually I do not recommend saving files on databases. I usually save the file on the disk and the path and mime on a dedicated table. I used to do that because backing up the database became huge. Now I use ZFS snapshots with

Re: File Name issue

On 10/18/20 5:55 AM, Steve wrote: I am not sure if what I did to repair it but the problem is gone. A copy/paste/rename was performed on the original code file and now I do not get the error. No need for "r" or "\"... WTH? I hate it when that happens. Could that original hyphen have been a

Re: What might cause my sample program to forget that already imported datetime?

On 10/12/20 7:20 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > This is yet another reason that "from MODULE import *" is a bad idea. > Instead, just import the module itself, and take whatever you need. Or just import the objects that you need; from datetime import datetime, SYMBOL, etc... I use Decimal a lot.

Re: Aw: Re: Python 3 how to convert a list of bytes objects to a list of strings?

On 2020-08-28 08:30, Richard Damon wrote: > This might be one of the cases where Python 2's lack handling of string > vs bytes was an advantage. For English speaking Americans. > Python2 handled that sort of case quite easily. Python 3 on the other > hand, will have issue converting the byte

Re: How do I do this in Python 3 (string.join())?

On 2020-08-26 09:22, Chris Green wrote: > I have the following line in Python 2:- > > msgstr = string.join(popmsg[1], "\n") # popmsg[1] is a list > containing the lines of the message > > ... so I changed it to:- > > s = "\n" > msgstr = s.join(popmsg[1]) # popmsg[1] is a

Re: exiting a while loop

On 2020-05-22 7:49 a.m., John Yeadon via Python-list wrote: > Am I unreasonable in expecting this code to exit when required? Yes. > # Add up the powers of 2 starting with 2**0 until 2 million is met. > n = 1 > target = 200 > sum = 0 > > while True: >     x = 2 ** (n - 1) >     sum += x >   

Re: Print formatting

On 10/18/19 5:00 PM, D'Arcy Cain wrote: Finally, if this is in a loop do this. FMT = '{0[0]:<12s}{0[3]:>12s}'.format for temp_list in GetLists(): print FMT(temp_list) Oops. Time warp. I meant "print(FMT(temp_list)) -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain Vybe Networks Inc. http://www.VybeNetworks

Re: Print formatting

On 10/18/19 2:21 PM, Jagga Soorma wrote: I seem to have found a way to do this with the following: print('{:<12s}{:>12s}'.format((temp_list[0]),(temp_list[3]))) Still let me know if there is a better way to format this output :) I would start with removing the redundant parens.

Re: FDs will be closed after exception automatically in python2.7?

On 2019-06-10 15:46, Alan Bawden wrote: > D'Arcy Cain writes: >> with open("file","w+") as fd: > > That makes the window smaller, but it doesn't actually eliminate it. Look > at the generated byte code. In both cases the call to open() is over a

Re: FDs will be closed after exception automatically in python2.7?

On 2019-06-10 10:48, Michael Torrie wrote: > Probably you should be using Python 3, which uses a print() function. > But even in Python 2.7, the recommended way to do this is like this: > > fd = open("file","w+") > with fd: There is still a small window there if there are asynchronous events

Re: PEP 594 cgi & cgitb removal

On 2019-05-22 03:51, Robin Becker wrote: > In PEP 594 t has been proposed that cgi & cgitb should be removed. I > suspect I am not the only person in the world that likes using cgi and > cgitb. I use both heavily. Just another data point. I wasn't going to respond with a "Me too" except that I

Re: Python indentation (3 spaces)

On 10/15/18 5:54 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote: > Cameron Simpson wrote: >> I can't express how pleasing it is to see the traditional vi-vs-emacs >> wars supplanted by emacs-vs-emacs :-) > > We're the People's Front of Emacs, not the Emacs People's Front! I thought we were the People's Emacs Front.

Re: [OT] master/slave debate in Python

On 9/26/18 3:58 AM, David Palao wrote: > Hello, > My opinion is that the terms "master/slave" describe well some situations. > They could be seen by some people as offensive (although unfortunately > sometimes true, even today) when applied to persons. But it is not > offensive when applied to

Re: Cross platform mutex to prevent script running more than instance?

On 09/03/18 09:45, Malcolm Greene wrote: > Use case: Want to prevent 2+ instances of a script from running ... > ideally in a cross platform manner. I've been researching this topic and > am surprised how complicated this capability appears to be and how the > diverse the solution set is. I've

Re: Cross platform mutex to prevent script running more than instance?

On 09/03/18 09:45, Malcolm Greene wrote: > Use case: Want to prevent 2+ instances of a script from running ... > ideally in a cross platform manner. I've been researching this topic and > am surprised how complicated this capability appears to be and how the > diverse the solution set is. I've

Re: Unexpected behaviour with DeprecationWarning, Python 3.7 and escape codes

On 2018-08-23 06:08 AM, Peter via Python-list wrote: > I understand that Python 3.7 now issues DeprecationWarning for code > entered in the interactive shell and also for single-module programs. I > see this behaviour with: > > C:\wrk> python > python 3.7.0 (v3.7.0:... import imp >

Re: New books by O’Reilly

On 2018-08-18 09:40 PM, Larry Martell wrote: > https://imgur.com/gallery/tW1lwEl I think I have met the people who studied those books. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain Vybe Networks Inc. http://www.VybeNetworks.com/ IM:da...@vex.net VoIP: sip:da...@vybenetworks.com --

Re: Pylint false positives

On 2018-08-14 04:58 AM, Frank Millman wrote: > "D'Arcy Cain"  wrote in message >> I am also getting a funny smell from your description.  Are you sure >> that you need to redefine the methods?  Perhaps you just need to define >> some class variables and use one me

Re: Pylint false positives

On 2018-08-14 03:38 AM, Frank Millman wrote: > Hi all > > Pylint is flagging a lot of lines as errors that I would consider to be > acceptable. > > I have an abstract class ClassA with a number of concrete sub-classes. > ClassA has a method which invokes 'self.method_b()' which is defined >

Re: Python 2.7 can find cairo libs but not Python 3.6

On 2018-07-17 10:22 AM, Peter Otten wrote: > D'Arcy Cain wrote: > >> I just realized that my subject was backwards. It's 2.7 that can find >> the libs and 3.6 than cannot. Just in case that makes a difference. > > Not for me, I believed the pasted shell session rather

Re: Python 2.7 can find cairo libs but not Python 3.6

I just realized that my subject was backwards. It's 2.7 that can find the libs and 3.6 than cannot. Just in case that makes a difference. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain Vybe Networks Inc. http://www.VybeNetworks.com/ IM:da...@vex.net VoIP: sip:da...@vybenetworks.com --

Re: Kindness

On 2018-07-13 05:45 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > Yeah, that is cult behavior. Here's a few boxes to tick on: > >http://www.csj.org/infoserv_cult101/checklis.htm> I couldn't find a single item that applies to this group. What's your point? -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain Vybe Networks Inc.

Re: Python 3.6 can find cairo libs but not Python 2.7

On 2018-07-13 10:28 AM, Peter Otten wrote: > As far as I can see -- without having access to a netbsd machine -- this Would it help if I gave you a login on one? Interestingly, I don't have this issue on my NetBSD machine built from HEAD. Maybe it is something that was fixed but not pulled up

Re: Python 3.6 can find cairo libs but not Python 2.7

On 2018-07-13 08:05 AM, Peter Otten wrote: > D'Arcy Cain wrote: >> Nope. Both are 64 bit. > > Just to be 100% sure, what does > > $ python2.7 -c 'import struct; print(struct.calcsize("l"))' > > $ python3.6 -c 'import struct; print(struct.calcsize("

Re: Python 3.6 can find cairo libs but not Python 2.7

On 2018-07-12 07:41 PM, Peter Otten wrote: > Wild guess: one Python is 64 bit and the other is 32 bit, and you have only > one version of the library installed. Nope. Both are 64 bit. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain Vybe Networks Inc. http://www.VybeNetworks.com/ IM:da...@vex.net VoIP:

Re: Python 3.6 can find cairo libs but not Python 2.7

On 2018-07-12 04:17 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 7/12/2018 3:52 PM, D'Arcy Cain wrote: >> $ python2.7 -c "import ctypes.util; >> print(ctypes.util.find_library('cairo'))" >> libcairo.so.2 >> $ python3.6 -c "import ctypes.util; >> print(ctypes.u

Python 3.6 can find cairo libs but not Python 2.7

$ python2.7 -c "import ctypes.util; print(ctypes.util.find_library('cairo'))" libcairo.so.2 $ python3.6 -c "import ctypes.util; print(ctypes.util.find_library('cairo'))" None I have the 3.6 version of py-cairo installed. Any thoughts? NetBSD 7.1.2 Cheers. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain System

Feeding the trolls

On 2018-06-20 08:10 AM, Tim Golden wrote: > [... snip discussions about Bart's language ...] > > Wearing my moderator hat > > Can we take the "Bart's language vs Python Show" to some other forum, > please? We've already gone over this ground again and again and it isn't > helping the

Proper email etiquette

On 2018-05-18 06:24 PM, José María Mateos wrote: > And another one I learned recently on a similar conversation on another > mailing list (that of the e-mail client I'm using right now): it is very > useful for searches. Every e-mail contains just the right amount of text > necessary to be

Re: Leading 0's syntax error in datetime.date module (Python 3.6)

On 2018-05-10 07:28 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3127/#removal-of-old-octal-syntax Funny stuff: Python could either: 1. silently do the wrong thing... 2. immediately disabuse him... 3. let him continue to think... Some people passionately believe

Re: Leading 0's syntax error in datetime.date module (Python 3.6)

On 2018-05-10 07:39 AM, AK wrote: > Try (should work from both PY2 and PY3): > > d0 = date(2018,0o2,0o1) Bad advice. Those numbers are decimal, not octal, You should use "date(2018,2,1)" here. Works in PY2, PY3 and for my birthday, Sept 4. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain Vybe Networks Inc.

PyGreSQL 5.0.5

We are pleased to announce the release of PyGreSQL 5.0.5. The main changes in this release are; - This version officially supports the new PostgreSQL 10. - The memory for the string with the number of rows affected by a classic pg module query() was already freed (bug report and fix by

Using object as a class

It's called a super class but it doesn't quite work like a normal class. >>> OBJ = object() >>> OBJ.x = 3 Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in AttributeError: 'object' object has no attribute 'x' I can fix this by creating a NULL class. >>> class NullObject(object): pass

Re: String formatting

Was "Accessing parent objects." On 03/25/2018 12:26 PM, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote: >> print("I am {0.__class__.__name__} foo".format(self)) > > I prefer keyword arguments, but if I used it that way I'd do: > > print("I am {0} foo".format(self.__class__.__name__)) These are contrived examples. In

Re: Accessing parent objects

On 03/24/2018 06:54 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> On Saturday, March 24, 2018 at 1:20:24 PM UTC-5, D'Arcy Cain wrote: >>> I tried various forms of super() but that didn't seem to work. > > Define "doesn't see to work". It accesses the parent class. I w

Re: Accessing parent objects

On 03/25/2018 05:10 AM, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote: >     print("I am {self.__class__.__name__} foo".format(self=self)) Unrelated to the original issue but why not one of the following? print("I am {0.__class__.__name__} foo".format(self)) print(f"I am {self.__class__.__name__} foo") -- D'Arcy

Re: Accessing parent objects

On 03/25/2018 04:37 AM, Jugurtha Hadjar wrote: > On 03/24/2018 07:14 PM, D'Arcy Cain wrote: >> class C1(dict): >>    class C2(object): >> def f(self): >>    return X['field'] >> >> O1 = C1() >> O1['field'] = 1 >> O2 = O1.C2()

Accessing parent objects

I'm not even sure how to describe what I am trying to do which perhaps indicates that what I am trying to do is the wrong solution to my problem in the first place but let me give it a shot. Look at the following code. class C1(dict): class C2(object): def f(self): return X['field']

Re: What F strings should have been

On 02/15/18 02:56, Peter Otten wrote: >> class FSTR(str): >> def __call__(self, *args): >> return self.format(*args) >> >> And here is how it could be used. >> >> s = FSTR("ABC {1} {0} {2[x]}") > > This can be simplified to > > s = "ABC {1} {0} {2[x]}".format Hmm. Hadn't thought of that.

What F strings should have been

A recent post by Terry Jan Reedy got me thinking about formatting. I like the new(ish) format method for strings and I see some value in F strings but it only works well with locals. Anything more starts getting messier than format() and it is supposed to be cleaner. Also, I find that I tend to

Re: What is more Pythonic: subclass or adding functionality to base class?

On 02/11/18 06:30, Victor Porton wrote: > What is more pythonic? > > 1. Create its subclass PredicateParserWithError and add the additional field > on_error to this class. > > 2. Add on_error field to the base class, setting it to None by default, if > the class's user does not need this

Re: Where has the practice of sending screen shots as source code come from?

On 01/29/2018 01:43 PM, John Ladasky wrote: > On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 7:07:11 AM UTC-8, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> >> (The day a programmer posts a WAV file of themselves reading their code >> out aloud, is the day I turn my modem off and leave the internet forever.) > > What's a... modem?

Re: Dunder variables

On 01/09/2018 07:30 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > If you have a class with only data, and you access the attributes via the > instance's __dict__, why not use an ordinary dict? Or even subclass dict. class MyClass(dict): VAR = 5 m = MyClass() m['newvar'] = "Something" I do this and wrap

Re: Goto

On 12/29/2017 02:25 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> PHP also added goto to a later version. > > Ahh, great choice of example. "It's okay - PHP does it." I thought that that was a reason to not do it. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain Vybe Networks Inc. http://www.VybeNetworks.com/ IM:da...@vex.net VoIP:

Re: Python homework

On 12/05/2017 07:33 PM, nick.martinez2--- via Python-list wrote: I have a question on my homework. My homework is to write a program in which the computer simulates the rolling of a die 50 times and then prints (i). the most frequent side of the die (ii). the average die value of all rolls. I

Re: why does memory consumption keep growing?

On 10/05/2017 05:42 PM, Fetchinson . via Python-list wrote: On 10/5/17, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Fetchinson . via Python-list wrote: import mystuff mystuff.some_more_expensive_stuff( x ) del mystuff

Re: Beginners and experts (Batchelder blog post)

On 09/29/2017 03:15 AM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: "Carefully-designed experiments" -- yeah, that is so totally how the coders I've worked with operate *wink* I think that's an awfully optimistic description of how the average programmer works :-) Better not hire average programmers then. I do

Even Older Man Yells At Whippersnappers

On 09/19/2017 03:07 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: How relevant is the "people use calculators to do arithmetic" argument today? Okay, so I'm old and cynical, but I know [young] people who don't (can't?) calculate a gratuity without an app or a web page. Which is a form of calculator. People

Re: python list name in subject

On 08/22/2017 10:14 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: Please don't. It wastes space which is better used on the subject. If you want the mailing list prepended, then configure procmail (or whatever) to do it for you. Better yet, put it in its own folder. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain Vybe Networks Inc.

Re: Basic python understanding

On 07/27/2017 09:59 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: If they have only ever used a single language, that may be a warning sign. Or if they list every language that they have ever smelled. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain Vybe Networks Inc. http://www.VybeNetworks.com/ IM:da...@vex.net VoIP:

Re: Basic python understanding

On 07/27/2017 09:34 AM, Rhodri James wrote: On 27/07/17 13:24, D'Arcy Cain wrote: Lesson: Look for programmers, not Python (or Perl or C or C++ or Java or...) programmers. This isn't universally true, I'm afraid. A friend of mine who is a very good C/assembler programmer simply cannot get

Re: Basic python understanding

On 07/27/2017 02:31 AM, Gregory Ewing wrote: I'd like to add that what you should really be looking for is not a Python programmer as such, but simply a good, competent programmer. Any decent programmer will be able to quickly pick up what they need to know about Python on the job. If they

Re: A Good Tutorial on Python Decorators

On 06/28/17 17:59, Steve D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 29 Jun 2017 01:56 am, Peter Pearson wrote: (Blushing) Thanks. Life is getting difficult for us JavaScript paranoids. Its not paranoia if they're really out to get you.

Re: Checking for an exception

On 06/25/17 12:10, Steve D'Aprano wrote: py> isinstance(KeyboardInterrupt(), Exception) False py> isinstance(ValueError, Exception) False That's because KeyboardInterrupt is not a subclass of Exception. If you want to catch that as well you need to check against BaseException.

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

On 2017-03-18 11:18 AM, Mikhail V wrote: On 18 March 2017 at 05:02, Ben Finney wrote: Feel free to start your own discussion forum for your new programming language that forbids spaces for indentation. That language will never be Python, so please don't ask us to

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

On 2017-03-18 09:46 AM, Mikhail V wrote: Not to judge, but usually such opinions come from determined And he probably wasn't being facetious. Butyouareprobablyright.Spaceisawasteofspace. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain Vybe Networks Inc. http://www.VybeNetworks.com/ IM:da...@vex.net VoIP:

Re: Who are the "spacists"?

On 2017-03-17 10:09 PM, Joel Goldstick wrote: This is not a useful conversation. It has been had over and over in the past. Some people like tabs, some like spaces. In python you can use either, but you must stick to one or the other s/must/should/ Technically you can use both if you are

Re: Dynamically replacing an objects __class__; is it safe?

On 2017-03-16 09:45 AM, Robin Becker wrote: On 15/03/2017 13:53, Steve D'Aprano wrote: You probably can't make a whale fly just by changing the class to bird. It will need wings, and feathers, at the very least. the whale in the Hitchhiker's Guide found itself flying without feathers or wings

Re: str.title() fails with words containing apostrophes

On 2017-03-06 06:33 PM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: If you read "title case" as *literally* as being only for titles (of books, I believe there is only one conclusion to be drawn from this thread - There is still a place for human proofreaders. I'm taking that as good news. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain

Re: str.title() fails with words containing apostrophes

On 2017-03-06 05:04 AM, Peter Otten wrote: Won't Steve D'aprano And D'arcy Cain Be Happy Now :) Perhaps one could limit the conversion to go from lower to upper only, as names tend be in the desired case in the original text. That would help with acronyms as well. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain Vybe

Re: Who still supports recent Python on shared hosting

On 2017-03-05 09:39 PM, John Nagle wrote: I'm looking for shared hosting that supports at least Python 3.4. http://www.VybeNetworks.com/ We have Python 2.7 and 3.6 installed. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain Vybe Networks Inc. http://www.VybeNetworks.com/ IM:da...@vex.net VoIP: sip:da...@vybenetworks.com

Re: str.title() fails with words containing apostrophes

On 2017-03-05 03:40 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: import re def title(string): return re.sub(r"\b'\w", lambda m: m.group().lower(), string.title()) Nice. It lowercases a word char that follows an "'" that follows a word without an intervening non-word char. It passes this test:

Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.6.1rc1 is now available

On 2017-03-05 07:01 AM, Ned Deily wrote: On behalf of the Python development community and the Python 3.6 release team, I would like to announce the availability of Python 3.6.1rc1. 3.6.1rc1 is the first release candidate for Python 3.6.1, the first maintenance release of Python 3.6. 3.6.0 was

Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.6.1rc1 is now available

On 2017-03-05 07:01 AM, Ned Deily wrote: On behalf of the Python development community and the Python 3.6 release team, I would like to announce the availability of Python 3.6.1rc1. 3.6.1rc1 is the first release candidate for Python 3.6.1, the first maintenance release of Python 3.6. 3.6.0 was

Re: [RELEASE] Python 3.6.1rc1 is now available

On 2017-03-05 07:01 AM, Ned Deily wrote: On behalf of the Python development community and the Python 3.6 release team, I would like to announce the availability of Python 3.6.1rc1. 3.6.1rc1 is the first release candidate for Python 3.6.1, the first maintenance release of Python 3.6. 3.6.0 was

Re: Need reviews for my book on introductory python

On 2017-01-27 11:01 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: This is a run-on sentence, which is to say, two sentences. Change 'suntax,' to 'syntax.' and 'in' to ' In'. ^^ I can't believe how many typos and grammar errors there are in this thread by people correcting typos and grammar. And please

Re: Need reviews for my book on introductory python

On 2017-01-27 03:17 PM, bob gailer wrote: sudo apt-get won't work on Windows. Tell the reader that this is how to do it in Unix, and show the Windows equivalent. Actually it doesn't work on Unix either. It only works on Linux. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain System Administrator, Vex.Net

Re: Extended ASCII [solved]

On 2017-01-13 05:44 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2017-01-13, D'Arcy Cain <da...@vybenetworks.com> wrote: Here is the failing code: with open(sys.argv[1], encoding="latin-1") as fp: for ln in fp: print(ln) Traceback (most recent call last): File "./load_iff"

Extended ASCII

I thought I was done with this crap once I moved to 3.x but some Winblows machines are still sending what some circles call "Extended ASCII". I have a file that I am trying to read and it is barfing on some characters. For example: due to the Qu\xe9bec government Obviously should be "due

Re: Clickable hyperlinks

On 2017-01-04 07:07 PM, Deborah Swanson wrote: > D'Arcy Cain wrote, on Wednesday, January 04, 2017 5:03 AM >> In all the messages in this thread I still don't understand what this >> "teensy advantage" is supposed to be. Do you want to be able >> to do th

Re: Clickable hyperlinks

On 2017-01-04 05:58 PM, Deborah Swanson wrote: >> the user to go and authenticate, you can simply >> webbrowser.open("http://.../;) and it'll DTRT. > > Thank you, thank you! Finally, at least one person on this list knows > about something (anything) in the python world that is internet aware.

Re: Clickable hyperlinks

Deborah - please trim your quoted text. On 2017-01-04 04:32 AM, Deborah Swanson wrote: > Thanks, Steven. Yes, of course if you want to print strings you must > enclose them in quotes. I think you learn that in Week 1 of any > introductory course on Python. Closer to minute one. When I

Re: Clickable hyperlinks

On 2017-01-04 08:44 AM, Rodrigo Bistolfi wrote: > 2017-01-04 7:39 GMT-03:00 Steve D'Aprano : >> Aside: you've actually raised a fascinating question. I wonder whether >> there >> are any programming languages that understand URLs as native data types, so >> that *source

Re: Clickable hyperlinks

On 2017-01-04 07:07 PM, Deborah Swanson wrote: D'Arcy Cain wrote, on Wednesday, January 04, 2017 5:03 AM In all the messages in this thread I still don't understand what this "teensy advantage" is supposed to be. Do you want to be able to do this: make_web_link(http://...

Re: Clickable hyperlinks

On 2017-01-04 05:58 PM, Deborah Swanson wrote: the user to go and authenticate, you can simply webbrowser.open("http://.../;) and it'll DTRT. Thank you, thank you! Finally, at least one person on this list knows about something (anything) in the python world that is internet aware. Lots

Re: Clickable hyperlinks

On 2017-01-04 08:44 AM, Rodrigo Bistolfi wrote: 2017-01-04 7:39 GMT-03:00 Steve D'Aprano : Aside: you've actually raised a fascinating question. I wonder whether there are any programming languages that understand URLs as native data types, so that *source code*

Re: Clickable hyperlinks

Deborah - please trim your quoted text. On 2017-01-04 04:32 AM, Deborah Swanson wrote: Thanks, Steven. Yes, of course if you want to print strings you must enclose them in quotes. I think you learn that in Week 1 of any introductory course on Python. Closer to minute one. When I investigated

Re: Reading python list as a newsgroup (was ...)

On 2016-12-16 08:16 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: Unfortunately, my client can only "pre filter" on subject and author; I could kill all @gmail.*, but could not focus on just Google Groups submissions... I don't know what client you use but perhaps you can adapt this procmail recipe.

Re: Reading python list as a newsgroup (was ...)

On 2016-12-16 10:11 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: I didn't notice much spam on c.l.p (but then again, I filter out all posts from google-groups). The problem on c.l.p that caused me to Yes, blocking GG was the biggest improvement to my reading this list (mailing list in my case). That and a few

Re: Mapping with continguous ranges of keys

On 2016-12-15 12:06 PM, Steve D'Aprano wrote: I have about a million or two keys, with a few hundred or perhaps a few thousand distinct values. The size of each contiguous group of keys with the same value can vary from 1 to perhaps a hundred or so. There isn't enough info in your post to be

PyGreSQL 5.0.3 released

Release 5.0.3 of PyGreSQL. It is available at: http://pygresql.org/files/PyGreSQL-5.0.3.tar.gz. If you are running NetBSD, look in the packages directory under databases. There is also a package in the FreeBSD ports collection. Please refer to the changelog.txt file for things that have

Re: Call a shell command from Python

On 2016-11-01 01:23 AM, Ben Finney wrote: Wildman via Python-list writes: So the way your script was invoked has no bearing on whether Bash will get involved in what your script does. Your script is *directly* invoking programs, and if you don't ask for a shell to be

Re: How to use two threads (GUI and backend)

On 2016-10-27 07:33 AM, jmp wrote: On 10/27/2016 12:22 PM, pozz wrote: (blocking) thread. The blocking function read returns *immediately* when all the bytes are received. And I think during blocking time, the thread isn't consuming CPU clocks. Threads do consume CPU clocks. Sometimes they

Re: Why doesn't Python include non-blocking keyboard input function?

On 2016-10-27 03:05 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: When I used unix in the 1980s, the full screen ran csh until one started another full screen application. MSDOS was the same. Every contemporary photo of modern Linux or Mac I have seen has a desktop with windows just like Windows. Do people on Linux

Re: How to handle errors?

On 2016-10-20 08:03 PM, Wildman via Python-list wrote: Using a direct path to the Python interpreter can cause problems on some systems because it is not always installed to the same directory. On my Debian-based system Python is installed in /usr/bin. So your code as written will not run on

Re: #!/usr/bin/env python vs. #!/usr/bin/python?

On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 06:57:28 -0400 Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote: I've seen both shebang lines to run a Python script on a *nix host: #!/usr/bin/env python #!/usr/bin/python What's the difference? The first one looks through your PATH to find the right python interpreter to

Stop feeding the trolls (Was: which a is used?)

On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 08:44:18 +0100 Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 25/09/2012 06:07, Thomas Rachel wrote: Am 25.09.2012 04:37 schrieb Dwight Hutto: [...usual nonsense] someone had the audacity to protect his stance. I am sure that people have seen enough of his behaviour in

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