[Python-announce] Wing Python IDE version 9.1.2

2023-10-02 Thread Wingware
Wing Python IDE version 9.1.2 has been released with improved auto-import and fixes for debugging with mingw Windows Python builds, creating projects when multiple  windows are open, auto-editing inside f-strings, and about 20 other improvements. Details: https://wingware.com/news/2023-09-28

[Python-announce] Wing Python IDE 9.1 has been released

2023-05-13 Thread Wingware
Wing Python IDE 9.1 has been released.  It adds auto-import and import management, collects and displays code coverage for unit tests, uses coverage data to invalidate test results when code is edited, adds support for Python 3.11, reduces debugger overhead in Python 3.7+, speeds up running

Re: Pycharm IDE

2023-04-20 Thread Thomas Passin
On 4/19/2023 7:48 PM, dn via Python-list wrote: On 20/04/2023 08.59, Thomas Passin wrote: On 4/19/2023 4:06 PM, Mark Bourne wrote: print(f'{LIMIT}) ^ I think this one should be: print(f'{LIMIT}') with the closing quote ;o) Yup a typo!  Where's pylint when I need it? but (and you

Re: Pycharm IDE

2023-04-19 Thread dn via Python-list
On 20/04/2023 08.59, Thomas Passin wrote: On 4/19/2023 4:06 PM, Mark Bourne wrote: print(f'{LIMIT}) ^ I think this one should be: print(f'{LIMIT}') with the closing quote ;o) Yup a typo!  Where's pylint when I need it? but (and you designed it this way - right?) an excellent

Re: Pycharm IDE

2023-04-19 Thread Thomas Passin
On 4/19/2023 4:06 PM, Mark Bourne wrote: print(f'{LIMIT}) ^ I think this one should be: print(f'{LIMIT}') with the closing quote ;o) Yup a typo! Where's pylint when I need it? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Pycharm IDE

2023-04-19 Thread Mark Bourne
wrote:   print (f'"I am thinking of a number between 1 to {LIMIT}\n")I had the impression that the format specifier 'f' was necessary for the print function, but the double quotes are for the string printed to the user, as a prompt!The Pycharm IDE is showing that it expects a single

Re: Pycharm IDE

2023-04-19 Thread Thomas Passin
at the format specifier 'f' was necessary for the print function, but the double quotes are for the string printed to the user, as a prompt!The Pycharm IDE is showing that it expects a single quotation mark or ')'! No error message is displayed. Perplexed "When you pass through the waters, I

Re: Pycharm IDE

2023-04-19 Thread dn via Python-list
On 19/04/2023 21.13, Kevin M. Wilson wrote: Sorry the code snippet I sent was what is written in PyCharm. LIMIT is defined and is not causing an error! PyCharm is flagging the Parentheses at the end. It is not seeing the Parentheses as the end of the print function. def play_game(): number=

Re: Pycharm IDE

2023-04-19 Thread dn via Python-list
1:17:52 PM MDT, Kevin M. Wilson via Python-list wrote: print (f'"I am thinking of a number between 1 to {LIMIT}\n")I had the impression that the format specifier 'f' was necessary for the print function, but the double quotes are for the string printed to the user, as a prompt!T

Re: Pycharm IDE

2023-04-18 Thread Kevin M. Wilson via Python-list
m thinking of a number between 1 to {LIMIT}\n")I had the impression that the format specifier 'f' was necessary for the print function, but the double quotes are for the string printed to the user, as a prompt!The Pycharm IDE is showing that it expects a single quotation mark or ')'! No err

Re: Pycharm IDE

2023-04-18 Thread Kevin M. Wilson via Python-list
print (f'"I am thinking of a number between 1 to {LIMIT}\n")I had the impression that the format specifier 'f' was necessary for the print function, but the double quotes are for the string printed to the user, as a prompt!The Pycharm IDE is showing that it expects a single quot

Re: Pycharm IDE

2023-04-18 Thread aapost
On 4/18/23 19:18, Kevin M. Wilson wrote: Why complain about a 'comma', or a ')'??? print (f'"I am thinking of a number between 1 to {LIMIT}\n") my version says it expects ' first (to close the fstring) then on a new line below it, it mentions the comma and ) I believe that is just showing

Re: Pycharm IDE

2023-04-18 Thread Thomas Passin
nking of a number between 1 to {LIMIT}\n")Or is this a setting in the IDE, I need to reassign? I'm not sure what error you are talking about, but the f-string isn't closed (and doesn't appear to need the double quotes, either, though that is not an error). So - print (f'I am thinking of a number

Re: Pycharm IDE

2023-04-18 Thread dn via Python-list
umber between 1 to {LIMIT}\n")Or is this a setting in the IDE, I need to reassign? The code is a bit difficult to read (wrapping), but the error message may be an assumption (on Python's part). Should the line be: print( F"I am thinking... ^ no extraneous/unbalanced

Pycharm IDE

2023-04-18 Thread Kevin M. Wilson via Python-list
Greetings... Kevin here:I need help, as you have guessed!I have this line: The Print Statement... Why complain about a 'comma', or a ')'???def play_game(): number = random.randint(1, LIMIT) print (f'"I am thinking of a number between 1 to {LIMIT}\n")Or is this a setting in

Re: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-18 Thread dn via Python-list
t sounds like you're *not* using the IDE/editor for that. (I'm not judging, I'm trying to relate your answer to dn's original question.) It is a good example of a facility or 'power' of an IDE - even if there's room for more information... The team I'm currently assisting has decided to use Poetry.

Re: Fwd: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-18 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2023-03-18 16:06:49 +, Alan Gauld wrote: > On 18/03/2023 12:15, Peter J. Holzer wrote: > >> I think you might be meaning TurboPascal, Delphi's forerunner. It just > >> had a compiler and text editor. > > > > I'd still classify Turbo Pascal as an IDE. It was

Re: Fwd: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-18 Thread Alan Gauld
On 18/03/2023 12:15, Peter J. Holzer wrote: >> I think you might be meaning TurboPascal, Delphi's forerunner. It just >> had a compiler and text editor. > > I'd still classify Turbo Pascal as an IDE. It wasn't a standalone > compiler you would invoke on source files you

Re: Fwd: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-18 Thread Roel Schroeven
y. > > > > Back when Delphi first came out, when I first used it, I don't remember > > any IDE; one just used a text editor. > > I think you might be meaning TurboPascal, Delphi's forerunner. It just > had a compiler and text editor. I'd still classify Turbo Pasca

Re: Fwd: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-18 Thread Thomas Passin
, when I first used it, I don't remember any IDE; one just used a text editor. I think you might be meaning TurboPascal, Delphi's forerunner. It just had a compiler and text editor. I'd still classify Turbo Pascal as an IDE. It wasn't a standalone compiler you would invoke on source files you

Re: Fwd: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-18 Thread Thomas Passin
On 3/18/2023 4:46 AM, Alan Gauld wrote: On 17/03/2023 17:55, Thomas Passin wrote: I used Delphi and Smalltalk/V which both pretty much only exist within their own IDEs and I used their features extensively. Back when Delphi first came out, when I first used it, I don't remember any IDE; one

Re: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-18 Thread 2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE
n. The other generates a pyproject.toml /setup.cfg > directory structure with a main.py referenced as a console > script. from setup.cfg You don't describe the process for using those programs, but if you "have two Python programs," then it sounds like you're *not* using the IDE/e

Re: Fwd: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-18 Thread Peter J. Holzer
ut, when I first used it, I don't remember > > any IDE; one just used a text editor. > > I think you might be meaning TurboPascal, Delphi's forerunner. It just > had a compiler and text editor. I'd still classify Turbo Pascal as an IDE. It wasn't a standalone compiler you would

Re: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-18 Thread Weatherby,Gerard
via Python-list Date: Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 6:59 PM To: 'Python' Subject: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions' *** Attention: This is an external email. Use caution responding, opening attachments or clicking on links. *** It is a long, long, time since I've thrown one

Re: Fwd: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-18 Thread Alan Gauld
On 17/03/2023 17:55, Thomas Passin wrote: >> I used Delphi and Smalltalk/V which both pretty much only exist within >> their own IDEs and I used their features extensively. > > Back when Delphi first came out, when I first used it, I don't remember > any IDE; one just u

Re: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-17 Thread dn via Python-list
On 18/03/2023 02.44, Thomas Passin wrote: On 3/17/2023 9:38 AM, Simon Ward wrote: On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 02:05:50PM +0100, Roel Schroeven wrote: Even better than simply highlighting is (IMO) a thing called "Rainbow Braces" or "Bracket Pair Colorization" I recently learned about: both braces

Re: Fwd: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-17 Thread MRAB
, which ones? When I'm writing Java/C++/C# yes, I need all the IDE help I can get. Netbeans or Eclipse being my tools of choice. And in my Windows days I used Delphi and Smalltalk/V which both pretty much only exist within their own IDEs and I used their features extensively. Back when Delphi first

Re: Fwd: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-17 Thread Thomas Passin
, I need all the IDE help I can get. Netbeans or Eclipse being my tools of choice. And in my Windows days I used Delphi and Smalltalk/V which both pretty much only exist within their own IDEs and I used their features extensively. Back when Delphi first came out, when I first used it, I don't

Fwd: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-17 Thread Alan Gauld
Oops! I meant to send this to the group not just Dave. Forwarded Message On 16/03/2023 22:55, dn via Python-list wrote: > Do you make use of your IDE's expansionist tendencies, and if-so, which > ones? When I'm writing Java/C++/C# yes, I need all the IDE help I c

Re: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-17 Thread Thomas Passin
On 3/17/2023 9:38 AM, Simon Ward wrote: On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 02:05:50PM +0100, Roel Schroeven wrote: Even better than simply highlighting is (IMO) a thing called "Rainbow Braces" or "Bracket Pair Colorization" I recently learned about: both braces of a matching pair get the same color,

Re: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-17 Thread Simon Ward
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 02:05:50PM +0100, Roel Schroeven wrote: Even better than simply highlighting is (IMO) a thing called "Rainbow Braces" or "Bracket Pair Colorization" I recently learned about: both braces of a matching pair get the same color, while other pairs get other colors. I have

Re: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-17 Thread Roel Schroeven
Op 17/03/2023 om 0:54 schreef Thomas Passin: What I find more useful is matching brackets/parens/braces.  Not inserting them but highlighting or (better) jumping to the matching one when asked. That is very helpful indeed. Even better than simply highlighting is (IMO) a thing called "Rainbow

Re: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-17 Thread Simon Ward
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 11:55:38AM +1300, dn via Python-list wrote: Do you make use of your IDE's expansionist tendencies, and if-so, which ones? Unix (well, GNU/Linux) is my IDE ;) Simon -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-16 Thread Grant Edwards
it. Maybe it matters how good a typist you are, but I don't really concentrate that hard on watching the letters show up on the screen, so any sort of "IDE know better than you do" stuff tends to trip me up. > Of course, for Python code I do like automatic indentation afte

Re: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-16 Thread 2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE
. Long time (since the 1980s, when you had to edit config.h and compile it yourself) insane emacs enthusiast and "Unix is my IDE" claimant here. I used one language that required a special editor because the "source code" was a semi-compiled byte stream instead of ASCII. A

Re: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-16 Thread Thomas Passin
an abbreviated-name and the IDE will expand it into appropriate code. For (LiveTemplate) example, typing compli and pressing Tab induces PyCharm to add the following to the program[me]:     [ ! for ! in !drop-down menu! if ! ] It offers further typo-saving through the drop-down menu which lists a bunch

Re: Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-16 Thread Mats Wichmann
-name and the IDE will expand it into appropriate code. For (LiveTemplate) example, typing compli and pressing Tab induces PyCharm to add the following to the program[me]:     [ ! for ! in !drop-down menu! if ! ] It offers further typo-saving through the drop-down menu which lists a bunch

Friday finking: IDE 'macro expansions'

2023-03-16 Thread dn via Python-list
there are? Idly noted that there are two short-cut or macro-expansion types of facilities: - Postfix Completion, (nothing to do with email or polish notation) and - Live Templates (again, we're not talking about jinja2) With both, one types an abbreviated-name and the IDE will expand

[Python-announce] Wing Python IDE version 9.0.2

2022-12-20 Thread Wingware
Wing Python IDE version 9.0.2 has been released with more debugger optimizations and fixes for issues with match/case, 'python -m', and a few other usability and stability problems: Details: https://wingware.com/news/2022-12-20 Downloads: https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing

[Python-announce] Wing Python IDE version 9.0.1 has been released

2022-11-24 Thread Wingware
improvements. Details: https://wingware.com/news/2022-11-23 Downloads: https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a full-featured but light-weight Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities. Wing's deep code

[Python-announce] Wing Python IDE version 9 released

2022-10-25 Thread Wingware
more. Details: https://wingware.com/news/2022-10-24 Downloads: https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a full-featured but light-weight Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities. Wing's deep code anal

[Python-announce] Wing Python IDE 8.3.3 has been released

2022-07-31 Thread Wingware
improvements. Details: https://wingware.com/news/2022-07-28 Downloads: https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a full-featured but light-weight Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities. Wing's deep

[Python-announce] Wing Python IDE version 8.3.2

2022-06-21 Thread Wingware
.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a full-featured but light-weight Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities. Wing's deep code analysis provides auto-completion, auto-editing, code navigation, early error detec

[issue511992] IDE: sys.stdout.flush() doesn't work

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[issue456736] Remember __future__ imports in IDE

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[issue496096] Mach-O MacPython IDE!

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[issue454307] select.select locks up IDE

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[issue231204] fork()/execv() IDE Crash

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[issue210865] Reproducible crash of Mac IDE (PR#172)

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[Python-announce] Wing Python IDE version 8.3 has been released

2022-03-31 Thread Wingware
but light-weight Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities. Wing's deep code analysis provides auto-completion, auto-editing, code navigation, early error detection, and refactoring that speed up development. Its top

Re: Pycharm IDE: seeking an assist!

2022-03-21 Thread Dennis Lee Bieber
On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 15:36:50 + (UTC), "Kevin M. Wilson" declaimed the following: >The use of Java options environment variables detected. >Such variables override IDE configuration files (*.vmoptions) and may cause >performance and stability issues. >Pl

Pycharm IDE: seeking an assist!

2022-03-21 Thread Kevin M. Wilson via Python-list
Greetings Python coders,     I have installed the Pycharm IDE, and upon successfully auto install of the path/environment statements. The IDE opened and displayed (bottom right corner):  The use of Java options environment variables detected. Such variables override IDE configuration

[Python-announce] Wing Python IDE version 8.2 has been released

2022-02-17 Thread Wingware
, and search capabilities. Details: https://wingware.com/news/2022-02-17 Downloads: https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities

[Python-announce] Wing Python IDE version 8.1.3 has been released

2022-02-03 Thread Wingware
://wingware.com/news/2022-02-01 Downloads: https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities. Wing's deep code analysis provides auto

[Python-announce] Wing Python IDE 8.1.3 has been released

2021-12-14 Thread Wingware
ber of other improvements. Details: https://wingware.com/news/2021-12-13 Downloads: https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities. Wing

[Python-announce] Wing Python IDE 8.1.1 has been released

2021-11-15 Thread Wingware
/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities. Wing's deep code analysis provides auto-completion, auto-editing, and refactoring that speed up

[Python-announce] Wing Python IDE 8.1 has been released

2021-10-21 Thread Wingware
+ in the Packages tool, and makes several other improvements. Details: https://wingware.com/news/2021-10-19 Downloads: https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing

[Python-announce] Wing Python IDE 8.0.4 has been released

2021-09-29 Thread Wingware
:  https://wingware.com/news/2021-09-28 Downloads:   https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities. Wing's deep code analysis provides

ANN: Wing Python IDE 8.0.4 has been released

2021-09-29 Thread Wingware
:  https://wingware.com/news/2021-09-28 Downloads:   https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities. Wing's deep code analysis provides

[Python-announce] Wing Python IDE 8.0.3 has been released

2021-09-01 Thread Wingware
in files with non-ascii characters, and makes several other improvements. Details:  https://wingware.com/news/2021-08-31 Downloads:   https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing

ANN: Wing Python IDE 8.0.3 has been released

2021-09-01 Thread Wingware
in files with non-ascii characters, and makes several other improvements. Details:  https://wingware.com/news/2021-08-31 Downloads:   https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing

Wing Python IDE version 8 has been released

2021-07-27 Thread Wingware
) build, a new Nord style theme, reduced application startup time, and much more. Details:  https://wingware.com/news/2021-07-26 Downloads:   https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing

ANN: Wing Python IDE version 8 has been released

2021-07-27 Thread Wingware
) build, a new Nord style theme, reduced application startup time, and much more. Details:  https://wingware.com/news/2021-07-26 Downloads:   https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing

Wing Python IDE 7.2.9 has been released

2021-04-12 Thread Wingware
://wingware.com/news/2021-04-12 Downloads:   https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities. Wing's deep code analysis provides auto

ANN: Wing Python IDE 7.2.9 has been released

2021-04-12 Thread Wingware
://wingware.com/news/2021-04-12 Downloads:   https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities. Wing's deep code analysis provides auto

Re: Unable to find 'edit with ide' option in the Context menu

2021-03-31 Thread Terry Reedy
On 3/31/2021 2:11 AM, Arjav Jain wrote: I am using the lastest version of python recently. But I am facing a problem with the python files, When I am right clicking any python file there is no option for `Edit with idle'. I have repaired the python installation too, but this

Unable to find 'edit with ide' option in the Context menu

2021-03-31 Thread Arjav Jain
I am using the lastest version of python recently. But I am facing a problem with the python files, When I am right clicking any python file there is no option for `Edit with idle'. I have repaired the python installation too, but this doesn't solves my problem, please help! Sent

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-06, Barry wrote: > > >> On 6 Feb 2021, at 08:06, Grant Edwards wrote: >> >> On 2021-02-05, Schachner, Joseph wrote: >> >>> Indeed there are many. One I have not seen listed here yet, that is >>> quite light, starts quickly, but does have good debugging capability >>> is

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-06 Thread Barry
> On 6 Feb 2021, at 08:06, Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2021-02-05, Schachner, Joseph wrote: > >> Indeed there are many. One I have not seen listed here yet, that is >> quite light, starts quickly, but does have good debugging capability >> is PyScripter. Completely free, downloadable from

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-02-05, Schachner, Joseph wrote: > Indeed there are many. One I have not seen listed here yet, that is > quite light, starts quickly, but does have good debugging capability > is PyScripter. Completely free, downloadable from SourceForge, 32 > or 64 bit versions (must match your Python

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-06 Thread Terry Reedy
On 2/5/2021 3:34 AM, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote: On 27/01/2021 18:32, flaskee via Python-list wrote: While print() is groovy and all, if anyone runs across a non-pdb python debugger (standalone or IDE-based) please let me know. There are many. But why must it be non-pdb? That seems

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-05 Thread boB Stepp
On Sat, Feb 06, 2021 at 01:27:34AM +, flaskee via Python-list wrote: On Friday, February 5, 2021 5:03 PM, Schachner, Joseph wrote: As regards the Alan pdb note; yes -- I was trying for a full IDE & integrated debugging, along the lines of Visual Studio, pre-sneaky-Telemetry API. Yo

RE: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-05 Thread flaskee via Python-list
ripter/pyscripter Sourceforge has had problems in the past with allowing virus-infected downloads. Three of which I have seen myself. --- As regards the Alan pdb note; yes -- I was trying for a full IDE & integrated debugging, along the lines of Visual Studio, pre-sneaky-Telemetry API.

RE: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-05 Thread Schachner, Joseph
; Commercially Sensitive Business Data -Original Message- From: Alan Gauld Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 3:34 AM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: IDE tools to debug in Python? On 27/01/2021 18:32, flaskee via Python-list wrote: > > While print() is groovy and all, > if an

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-05 Thread Alan Gauld via Python-list
On 27/01/2021 18:32, flaskee via Python-list wrote: > > While print() is groovy and all, > if anyone runs across a non-pdb python debugger (standalone or IDE-based) > please let me know. > There are many. But why must it be non-pdb? That seems rather arbitrary. Or do you reall

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-02-04 Thread Thomas Jollans
On 27/01/2021 19:32, flaskee via Python-list wrote: > > While print() is groovy and all, > if anyone runs across a non-pdb python debugger (standalone or IDE-based) > please let me know. > > I too was blessed with IDE-based debugging (in the 90's!) > * where you

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-28 Thread Skip Montanaro
> > > Python is an interactive language. You can develop a lot while working > > on a Python console. Then copy and paste into a program. > > Absolutely, the humble interactive prompt is often overlooked > as a development tool. It's not as good as the "evaluate > expression" tool in the Smalltalk

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread Alan Gauld via Python-list
On 27/01/2021 19:27, Dietmar Schwertberger wrote: > Python is an interactive language. You can develop a lot while working > on a Python console. Then copy and paste into a program. Absolutely, the humble interactive prompt is often overlooked as a development tool. It's not as good as the

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread J. Pic
: > > Thank you J. Pic. > > Out of everything today, > (and given my priority is Python/Flask debugging) > it looks like Wing IDE is something to dig into. > > Thanks > > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Wednesda

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread flaskee via Python-list
Thank you J. Pic. Out of everything today, (and given my priority is Python/Flask debugging) it looks like Wing IDE is something to dig into. Thanks Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 4:09 PM, J. Pic wrote: > Thonny, win

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread J. Pic
Thonny, winpdb/winpdb-rebord, eric4, pudb, web-pdb, vy, mu, netbeans, eclipse, pdbpp... Also see: https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonDebuggingTools "Changing a variable" -> that's basically evaluating code ? -> supported in all debuggers I suppose --

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread Paul Bryan via Python-list
in source) and autocomplete when user is typing. In my experience, it's heavyweight, and creates more reliance on the features of an IDE than I feel is healthy (IDE becomes a crutch). I suspect PyCharm is doing much of the same. On Wed, 2021-01-27 at 15:36 -0500, C W wrote: > I don't know exac

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread C W
I meant bottom right corner, not left. opps! On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 3:36 PM C W wrote: > I don't know exactly, but it shows as inspection on the bottom left corner. > > I believe it's indexing in the background. > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 3:25 PM Grant Edwards > wrote: > >> On 2021-01-27, C

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread C W
I don't know exactly, but it shows as inspection on the bottom left corner. I believe it's indexing in the background. On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 3:25 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2021-01-27, C W wrote: > > I'm not expert in Python, but I sure tried many IDEs to kick off Python > > programming.

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-01-27, C W wrote: > I'm not expert in Python, but I sure tried many IDEs to kick off Python > programming. > > I started with PyCharm, but I had a problem with it constantly scanning the > background, even after I turned that feature off. What is it scanning? > My favorite (I'm using

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread flaskee via Python-list
isana przez flaskee via Python-list w >>> dniu 27.01.2021, o godz. 19:32: >>> >>>  >>> While print() is groovy and all, >>> if anyone runs across a non-pdb python debugger (standalone or IDE-based) >>> please let me know. >>> >

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread Dietmar Schwertberger
extension, it's very light. Recently also started background scanning, but that's generally done in 30 seconds. There's also Wing IDE (Pro). The best is to try at least PyCharm and Wing IDE (Pro) and maybe one or more of the others. Besides the debugger experience from the 90's please note

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread C W
is worth investing in professional edition though. > > Michał Jaworski > > > Wiadomość napisana przez flaskee via Python-list > w dniu 27.01.2021, o godz. 19:32: > > > >  > > While print() is groovy and all, > > if anyone runs across a non-pdb python debugg

Re: IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread Michał Jaworski
021, o godz. 19:32: > >  > While print() is groovy and all, > if anyone runs across a non-pdb python debugger (standalone or IDE-based) > please let me know. > > I too was blessed with IDE-based debugging (in the 90's!) > * where you can set break point(s); > * h

IDE tools to debug in Python?

2021-01-27 Thread flaskee via Python-list
While print() is groovy and all, if anyone runs across a non-pdb python debugger (standalone or IDE-based) please let me know. I too was blessed with IDE-based debugging (in the 90's!) * where you can set break point(s); * have the program stop right before a suspected failure point; * check

Wing Python IDE 7.2.8 has been released

2021-01-14 Thread Wingware
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ANN: Wing Python IDE 7.2.8 has been released

2021-01-14 Thread Wingware
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Wing Python IDE 7.2.7 has been released

2020-11-16 Thread Wingware
: https://wingware.com/news/2020-11-13 Downloads: https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities. Wing's deep code analysis provides

ANN: Wing Python IDE 7.2.7 has been released

2020-11-16 Thread Wingware
: https://wingware.com/news/2020-11-13 Downloads: https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities. Wing's deep code analysis provides

Wing Python IDE 7.2.6 has been released

2020-10-08 Thread Wingware
://wingware.com/news/2020-10-07 Downloads: https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities. Wing's deep code analysis provides auto

ANN: Wing Python IDE 7.2.6 has been released

2020-10-08 Thread Wingware
://wingware.com/news/2020-10-07 Downloads: https://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities. Wing's deep code analysis provides auto

ANN: Wing Python IDE version 7.2.5 has been released

2020-09-10 Thread Wingware
://wingware.com/downloads == About Wing == Wing is a light-weight but full-featured Python IDE designed specifically for Python, with powerful editing, code inspection, testing, and debugging capabilities. Wing's deep code analysis provides auto-completion, auto-editing, and refactoring that speed up

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