dateutil on PyPI (was: PEP668 / pipx and "--editable" installs)

2023-09-20 Thread Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
On 2023-09-20 13:31:14 +, c.buhtz--- via Python-list wrote: > Dear Peter, > > maybe we have a missunderstanding. > > Am 20.09.2023 14:43 schrieb Peter J. Holzer via Python-list: > > > > > "dateutil" is not available from PyPi for Python 3.11 > > > > That's quite a curious thing to write if

Re: PEP668 / pipx and "--editable" installs

2023-09-20 Thread c.buhtz--- via Python-list
Dear Peter, maybe we have a missunderstanding. Am 20.09.2023 14:43 schrieb Peter J. Holzer via Python-list: > > "dateutil" is not available from PyPi for Python 3.11 That's quite a curious thing to write if you are aware that dateutil is in fact available from PyPi for Python 3.11. Do I

Re: PEP668 / pipx and "--editable" installs

2023-09-20 Thread Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
On 2023-09-18 18:56:35 +, c.buhtz--- via Python-list wrote: > On 2023-09-18 10:16 "Peter J. Holzer via Python-list" > wrote: > > On 2023-09-15 14:15:23 +, c.buhtz--- via Python-list wrote: > > > I tried to install it via "pipx install -e .[develop]". It's > > > pyproject.toml has a bug: A

Re: PEP668 / pipx and "--editable" installs

2023-09-18 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 9/18/2023 2:56 PM, c.buhtz--- via Python-list wrote: On 2023-09-18 10:16 "Peter J. Holzer via Python-list" wrote: On 2023-09-15 14:15:23 +, c.buhtz--- via Python-list wrote: I tried to install it via "pipx install -e .[develop]". It's pyproject.toml has a bug: A missing dependency

Re: PEP668 / pipx and "--editable" installs

2023-09-18 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 9/18/23 12:56, c.buhtz--- via Python-list wrote: On 2023-09-18 10:16 "Peter J. Holzer via Python-list" wrote: On 2023-09-15 14:15:23 +, c.buhtz--- via Python-list wrote: I tried to install it via "pipx install -e .[develop]". It's pyproject.toml has a bug: A missing dependency

Re: PEP668 / pipx and "--editable" installs

2023-09-18 Thread c.buhtz--- via Python-list
On 2023-09-18 10:16 "Peter J. Holzer via Python-list" wrote: > On 2023-09-15 14:15:23 +, c.buhtz--- via Python-list wrote: > > I tried to install it via "pipx install -e .[develop]". It's > > pyproject.toml has a bug: A missing dependency "dateutil". But > > "dateutil" is not available from

Re: PEP668 / pipx and "--editable" installs

2023-09-18 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 9/18/23 02:16, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote: On 2023-09-15 14:15:23 +, c.buhtz--- via Python-list wrote: I tried to install it via "pipx install -e .[develop]". It's pyproject.toml has a bug: A missing dependency "dateutil". But "dateutil" is not available from PyPi for Python

Re: PEP668 / pipx and "--editable" installs

2023-09-18 Thread Peter J. Holzer via Python-list
On 2023-09-15 14:15:23 +, c.buhtz--- via Python-list wrote: > I tried to install it via "pipx install -e .[develop]". It's pyproject.toml > has a bug: A missing dependency "dateutil". But "dateutil" is not available > from PyPi for Python 3.11 (the default in Debian 12). But thanks to great >

Re: PEP668 / pipx and "--editable" installs

2023-09-17 Thread c.buhtz--- via Python-list
Thanks for your reply. btw: I do know what a virtual environment is and how its works. No need to explain. And again: I do expect "pipx" to use virtual environments. So this thread is not about pro and cons of using virtual environments. On 2023-09-17 11:57 Rimu Atkinson via Python-list wrote: >

Re: PEP668 / pipx and "--editable" installs

2023-09-17 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 9/16/2023 7:57 PM, Rimu Atkinson via Python-list wrote: It is nothing bad about using virtual environments but also not about not using them. In my own work I haven't see a use case where I needed them. And I expect that some day I'll encounter a use case for it. This here is not about pro

Re: PEP668 / pipx and "--editable" installs

2023-09-17 Thread Rimu Atkinson via Python-list
It is nothing bad about using virtual environments but also not about not using them. In my own work I haven't see a use case where I needed them. And I expect that some day I'll encounter a use case for it. This here is not about pro and cons of virtual environments. You are in a use case

Re: PEP668 / pipx and "--editable" installs

2023-09-16 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Am Sat, Sep 16, 2023 at 02:17:19PM +1200 schrieb Rimu Atkinson via Python-list: > Everyone uses virtual environments. Umm, like, no. Karsten -- GPG 40BE 5B0E C98E 1713 AFA6 5BC0 3BEA AC80 7D4F C89B -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PEP668 / pipx and "--editable" installs

2023-09-16 Thread c.buhtz--- via Python-list
Dear Rimu, thanks for your reply. I'm willing to learn for sure. On 2023-09-16 14:17 Rimu Atkinson via Python-list wrote: > There's your problem - everything else is a result of this. There is > just no nice way to work with a combination of pypi, apt-get and > system-wide python. > >

Re: PEP668 / pipx and "--editable" installs

2023-09-15 Thread Rimu Atkinson via Python-list
I never used virtual environments and wouldn't like to start with it. There's your problem - everything else is a result of this. There is just no nice way to work with a combination of pypi, apt-get and system-wide python. Everyone uses virtual environments. Sorry. --

PEP668 / pipx and "--editable" installs

2023-09-15 Thread c.buhtz--- via Python-list
Hello, I wonder that today was the first day I stumbled over PEP668 / pipx and the "externally-managed-environment" problem. I migrated from Debian 11 to 12. I'm developing some Python packages; applications and libraries. I never used virtual environments and wouldn't like to start with it.