Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

sage- >> From: QGIS-Developer [mailto:qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On >> Behalf Of Paolo Cavallini >> Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 6:10 PM >> To: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org >> Subject: Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin >>

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Subject: Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin Hey Christina, Yeah, it's a bit odd it's not showing up at all in the XML output. I wonder if it was the HTML in the changelog as I can't see anything else that is different. I have edit the changelog and removed the HTML

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hey Christina, Yeah, it's a bit odd it's not showing up at all in the XML output. I wonder if it was the HTML in the changelog as I can't see anything else that is different. I have edit the changelog and removed the HTML to see if that picks it up. Edited the changelog on this version for

[QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi QGIS Developers, I'm following up on this issue which I posted last month. While it triggered a lot of discussion I never received a firm answer as to whether my PAT plugin could be hosted and made discoverable as a QGIS plugin on the official plugins site. About a week ago I uploaded a

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

al/software/vesper.shtml. > > Christina > > -Original Message- > From: QGIS-Developer [mailto:qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On > Behalf Of Paolo Cavallini > Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 6:10 PM > To: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org > Subject: Re: [QGIS-Dev

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi, Personally I don't see any reason to not allow it in official repo and there is support for that here as IMO there is nothing bad here and nothing should force people to work 100% on all platforms all the time because that is a hell of a lot of work that is hard even for skilled developers.

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi All, Thank you all for your suggestions and ideas for resolving this issue. The use of VESPER is currently not negotiable, and as I’ve previously pointed out, VESPER is a tool of choice for kriging in the Precision Agriculture industry in Australia. We will continue using VESPER as it is

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi > On 11 Feb 2019, at 10:22, Carlo A. Bertelli (Charta s.r.l.) > wrote: > > This long and fruitful exchange about usage of Windows-only executables > inside QGIS suggests the availability of some "bridge" made using wine > (winehq.org ). This could be an infrastructure

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

nd at > https://sydney.edu.au/agriculture/pal/software/vesper.shtml. > > > > Christina > > > > -Original Message- > > From: QGIS-Developer [mailto:qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On > Behalf Of Paolo Cavallini > > Sent: Friday, 8 Februa

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

> > -Original Message- > From: QGIS-Developer [mailto:qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On > Behalf Of Paolo Cavallini > Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 6:10 PM > To: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org > Subject: Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

-Original Message- From: QGIS-Developer [mailto:qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Cavallini Sent: Friday, 8 February 2019 6:10 PM To: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin Hi all, On 07/02/19 08:46, Alessandro

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi all, On 07/02/19 08:46, Alessandro Pasotti wrote: > That makes me think that perhaps the best win-win solution would have > been to fix/improve QGIS's Kriging implementation instead of relying on > a windows-only binary. Christina, what is missing fro our core kriging module? Thanks. --

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 8:40 AM Nyall Dawson wrote: > On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 16:21, Tim Sutton wrote: > > > Even in core QGIS we have platform exclusion stuff - can anyone > *actually* get grass algorithms to run on macOS? > > Solid burn Tim. (But justified) > hehe sorry that was not aimed

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi Christina I'm sure you gathered this already, but in my opinion, your plugin design and logic regarding the third-party module is precisely as it should be in a QGIS plugin. It's good that you've surfaced an issue on which hopefully the QGIS devs are reaching consensus. Thanks for your

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 8:29 AM wrote: > Hi All, > > > > Thank you for the lively debate. > > > > Just to answer the concerns regarding the VESPER exe. > > > > I am *not* distributing the VESPER exe with the plugin. > > > > There are instructions in the provided manual and on the github page on >

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi Christina > On 07 Feb 2019, at 09:29, > wrote: > > Hi All, > > Thank you for the lively debate. > > Just to answer the concerns regarding the VESPER exe. > > I am not distributing the VESPER exe with the plugin. > > There are instructions in the provided manual and on the github

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi All, Thank you for the lively debate. Just to answer the concerns regarding the VESPER exe. I am not distributing the VESPER exe with the plugin. There are instructions in the provided manual and on the github page on where to download VESPER and how to configure it for PAT on Windows. It

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi, I think 90% of the devs who stated their opinion in this thread are in favour of allowing plugins that work only on one single OS. Not because they like it particularly, but because they want to be pragmatic and inclusive. I think this is already a clear statement. We don't want to

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 16:21, Tim Sutton wrote: > Even in core QGIS we have platform exclusion stuff - can anyone *actually* > get grass algorithms to run on macOS? Solid burn Tim. (But justified) Nyall ___ QGIS-Developer mailing list

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi all Frankly I am a little surprised at this thread. While I agree that we should encourage the development of cross platform plugins, I don’t ever recall us stating that it is a hard requirement, and it is not listed as such in the plugin requirements page[1]. If it is going to be a

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 11:03, Nyall Dawson wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 00:03, Alexandre Neto wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I don't think that the supported platforms of a plugin should be a > > limitation for publishing it in the QGIS repository. If it's useful for a > > high number of users,

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 00:03, Alexandre Neto wrote: > > Hi, > > I don't think that the supported platforms of a plugin should be a limitation > for publishing it in the QGIS repository. If it's useful for a high number of > users, why not? > > To me the only important thing to do, is to inform

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi Ale, On Wed, 06. Feb 2019 at 14:09:56 +0100, Alessandro Pasotti wrote: > I'm not a lawyer but I believe that you are breaking the law if you do not > run Apple software on Apple hardware. Like QGIS? No, that's not illegal ;) But running macOS on non-apple hardware is. Jürgen -- Jürgen

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi Stefan On 2/6/19 6:03 PM, Stefan Steiger wrote: > > Yea, but I preferably don’t want to have to lookup a website for every > plugin if somebody gives me a list of plugins to install. > Luckily, the plugin manager can do that for us, just like pacman, yaourt, aptitude et al. Matthias

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin Hi On 2/6/19 5:28 PM, Stefan Steiger wrote: The problem with metadata is that if you use it, you have no way to easily know if something (a group of plugins) uses a platform-specific plugin. For example, in ubuntu, I can choose

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi On 2/6/19 5:28 PM, Stefan Steiger wrote: > >   > > The problem with metadata is that if you use it, you have no way to > easily know if something (a  group of plugins) uses a > platform-specific plugin. > >   > > For example, in ubuntu, I can choose: > > -  Official  (secure) > > - 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

; qgis-dev Betreff: Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin I have been following this interesting discussion and thought I would make a couple of comments. I understand the different views people have. Ideally it would be nice for all plugins to work on all platforms

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 12:04 PM Paolo Cavallini wrote: > > On 06/02/19 09:42, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote: > > > If you prefer to put it in QGIS repo: just add a big note in the > > metadata.txt description that this plugin is only usable with vesper and > > windows. And maybe do an OS check in

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

019 15:50 > An: Paolo Cavallini > Cc: qgis-dev > Betreff: Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 12:04 PM Paolo Cavallini > wrote: > > > > On 06/02/19 09:42, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote: > > > > > If

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Mittwoch, 6. Februar 2019 15:50 An: Paolo Cavallini Cc: qgis-dev Betreff: Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 12:04 PM Paolo Cavallini wrote: > > On 06/02/19 09:42, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote: > > > If you prefer to put i

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 12:04 PM Paolo Cavallini wrote: > > On 06/02/19 09:42, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote: > > > If you prefer to put it in QGIS repo: just add a big note in the > > metadata.txt description that this plugin is only usable with vesper and > > windows. And maybe do an OS check in

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi Axel, If you really want to test your plugin in macOS, you can sign up to one of the cloud based services, which offers you remote access to a macOS desktop. We use https://www.macincloud.com/ for QGIS macOS builds and their customer service is very good. Regards Saber On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi, I don't think that the supported platforms of a plugin should be a limitation for publishing it in the QGIS repository. If it's useful for a high number of users, why not? To me the only important thing to do, is to inform the users of any OS restriction, so that people don't waste time

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Matthias Kuhn  wrote > If it's a single-purpose use-case specific plugin which is > intended to be run inside a specific organization / scenario, then I > don't see the benefit of investing a lot of effort into something that > will never be used. By "effort", do you mean the work to make it

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi Axel, There is the possibility to run continuous integration on various platforms on travis-ci and there are other continuous integration services as well. But I don't think you have the possibility to manually click through the user interface there and really need to setup unit / integration

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 1:59 PM Axel Andersson wrote: > On the subject, is there any possibility to test a plugin at another > platform? > > I'm developing my plugin on Windows machine and I have a Linux server, > which I can test the plugin on but when it comes to OSX I have no machine > to test

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

On the subject, is there any possibility to test a plugin at another platform? I'm developing my plugin on Windows machine and I have a Linux server, which I can test the plugin on but when it comes to OSX I have no machine to test it on. Does anyone have experience/good cookbooks how to set up a

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi On 2/6/19 12:47 PM, Nathan Woodrow wrote: > QGIS is for the users in the end, if this opens a new world of users, > and note this is government funded, I don't think we should avoid > allowing these kinds of things in.  This isn't a core feature of QGIS > and more of an exception than a rule. 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 7:28 AM wrote: > Hi QGIS dev list, > > I have just uploaded a new QGIS 2.18.x plugin called PAT - Precision > Agriculture Tools. It relies on VESPER, a Windows only bit of software so > therefore I went ahead writing a Windows only plugin using QGIS 2.18.x and > the

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

QGIS is for the users in the end, if this opens a new world of users, and note this is government funded, I don't think we should avoid allowing these kinds of things in. This isn't a core feature of QGIS and more of an exception than a rule. I don't see most plugins going this route but the few

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Sorry if I¡m too superficial without knowing deeply the plugin use cases, this is my 2c: if VESPER kiging is the reason limitate the plugin to only windows, is something I do not understand. QGIS/processing with RSpatial, saga and grass are full of kiging interpolation methods why not use the

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi all, On 06/02/19 09:42, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote: > If you prefer to put it in QGIS repo: just add a big note in the > metadata.txt description that this plugin is only usable with vesper and > windows. And maybe do an OS check in the __init__ for illiterate users ;-) I respectfully

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

On 2/6/19 7:28 AM, christina.ratcl...@csiro.au wrote: > Hi QGIS dev list, >   > I have just uploaded a new QGIS 2.18.x plugin called PAT - Precision > Agriculture Tools.  It relies on VESPER,  a Windows only bit of software > so therefore I went ahead writing a Windows only plugin using QGIS >

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hey, Hmm, I'm not sure we should reject something if it only works on Windows because of a 3rd party tool. Given the limited user base, limited in the sense that it's not a general tool for all users of QGIS and not targeted as one, I think it would be fine if it was just listed in the comments

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 16:29, wrote: > On uploading to the QGIS repository I have been advised by @pcav (see > https://github.com/CSIRO-Precision-Agriculture/PAT_QGIS_Plugin/issues/7 ) > that PAT must support Linux and OSX operating environments. I have had a look > on

[QGIS-Developer] Windows only version of a QGIS 2.18x plugin

Hi QGIS dev list, I have just uploaded a new QGIS 2.18.x plugin called PAT - Precision Agriculture Tools. It relies on VESPER, a Windows only bit of software so therefore I went ahead writing a Windows only plugin using QGIS 2.18.x and the non-QGIS Python dependencies of rasterio, Fiona,