Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Anita,

On Fri, 24. Jan 2020 at 14:12:34 +, Anita Graser wrote:
> Is the following "unknown publisher" issue expected or a regression?
> 
> https://twitter.com/atanas/status/1220709096992710657

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Anita Graser]

Is the following "unknown publisher" issue expected or a regression?

https://twitter.com/atanas/status/1220709096992710657

Regards,
Anita





On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 9:06 AM Paolo Cavallini 
wrote:

> Thanks a lot everybody, nice cooperation!
> Cheers.
>
> On 24 January 2020 13:05:09 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin <
> nirvn.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Fantastic, thank you.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 15:48 Anita Graser  wrote:
>>
>>> I can do it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Anita
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:15 AM Mathieu Pellerin 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Jürgen, thanks for the successful re-release of 3.10.2.

 Paolo, Anita, who is in a position to publish the drafted post on the
 blog?


 On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 10:59 Mathieu Pellerin 
 wrote:

> +1 to that plan. We're 33% done already since the blocking PR has been
> merged.
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 6:47 PM Matthias Kuhn 
> wrote:
>
>> How about
>>
>> - Waiting for https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/33971
>>
>> - Releasing 3.10.3
>>
>> - Announce on twitter, blog, news panel
>>
>> Clear cut for everyone (including those 95% of our users not
>> following [qgis on] twitter)
>>
>> Matthias
>> On 1/22/20 12:39 PM, Anita Graser wrote:
>>
>> Is it time to send an update on Twitter yet? I don't see new
>> installers at https://qgis.org/downloads/
>>
>> Regards,
>> Anita
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:08 AM Mathieu Pellerin <
>> nirvn.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the QGIS twitter account already mentioned that the 3.10.2
>>> installer had been retired due to issues and re-build.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:07 PM DelazJ  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 Thanks Mathieu. Should it be 3.10.2 or 3.10.3? Asking because those
 who have already downloaded the broken 3.10.2 may not think to update.

 Regards,
 Harrissou

 Le mer. 22 janv. 2020 à 11:05, Mathieu Pellerin <
 nirvn.a...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Matthias,
>
> Good idea.
>
> Math
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:02 PM Matthias Kuhn 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mathieu,
>>
>> Thanks a lot. It reads very well!
>>
>> Something that I'd like to add is that in case of still finding a
>> bug, users should file issues and to mention proximity of LTR 
>> replacement.
>> If you still happen to find QGIS behaving in an unexpected way,
>> please let us know on https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues
>> 
>> as always. We are very happy that QGIS 3.10 is now in shape to 
>> replace 3.4
>> as LTR in a month time.
>>
>> Bests
>> Matthias
>>
>>
>> On 1/22/20 10:58 AM, Mathieu Pellerin wrote:
>>
>> Paolo, here's the draft blog post:
>>
>> *Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point release
>> now*
>> --
>> QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially
>> released at the end of October 2019 have likely noticed a sharp drop 
>> in
>> reliability. The underlying issues have now been addressed in 
>> 3.10.2, all
>> users are advised to update *now*.
>>
>> When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019, a
>> pair of libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to their
>> next-generation versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF export[1]
>> support, more accurate coordinate transformation, etc. For those
>> interested, more technical information on this is available here[2].
>>
>> The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of
>> regressions. While we expected some issues to arise, the seriousness 
>> of the
>> disruption caught us off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat 
>> inevitable: QGIS
>> is the first large GIS project to expose these next-generation 
>> libraries to
>> the masses. The large number of QGIS users across the globe were
>> essentially stress testing both new code within QGIS as well as the
>> libraries themselves.
>>
>> Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and the
>> community helping out as well as our project sponsors for allowing 
>> us to
>> fund development time, developers have been able to fix all known
>> regressions in both in QGIS as well as underlying GDAL and PROJ 
>> libraries,
>> benefiting a large number of open source projects.
>>

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Paolo Cavallini]

Thanks a lot everybody, nice cooperation!
Cheers.

On 24 January 2020 13:05:09 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin  
wrote:
>Fantastic, thank you.
>
>On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 15:48 Anita Graser  wrote:
>
>> I can do it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Anita
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:15 AM Mathieu Pellerin
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jürgen, thanks for the successful re-release of 3.10.2.
>>>
>>> Paolo, Anita, who is in a position to publish the drafted post on
>the
>>> blog?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 10:59 Mathieu Pellerin 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 +1 to that plan. We're 33% done already since the blocking PR has
>been
 merged.

 On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 6:47 PM Matthias Kuhn 
 wrote:

> How about
>
> - Waiting for https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/33971
>
> - Releasing 3.10.3
>
> - Announce on twitter, blog, news panel
>
> Clear cut for everyone (including those 95% of our users not
>following
> [qgis on] twitter)
>
> Matthias
> On 1/22/20 12:39 PM, Anita Graser wrote:
>
> Is it time to send an update on Twitter yet? I don't see new
>installers
> at https://qgis.org/downloads/
>
> Regards,
> Anita
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:08 AM Mathieu Pellerin
>
> wrote:
>
>> I think the QGIS twitter account already mentioned that the
>3.10.2
>> installer had been retired due to issues and re-build.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:07 PM DelazJ  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thanks Mathieu. Should it be 3.10.2 or 3.10.3? Asking because
>those
>>> who have already downloaded the broken 3.10.2 may not think to
>update.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Harrissou
>>>
>>> Le mer. 22 janv. 2020 à 11:05, Mathieu Pellerin
>
>>> a écrit :
>>>
 Matthias,

 Good idea.

 Math

 On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:02 PM Matthias Kuhn
>
 wrote:

> Hi Mathieu,
>
> Thanks a lot. It reads very well!
>
> Something that I'd like to add is that in case of still
>finding a
> bug, users should file issues and to mention proximity of LTR
>replacement.
> If you still happen to find QGIS behaving in an unexpected
>way,
> please let us know on https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues
>
>
> as always. We are very happy that QGIS 3.10 is now in shape to
>replace 3.4
> as LTR in a month time.
>
> Bests
> Matthias
>
>
> On 1/22/20 10:58 AM, Mathieu Pellerin wrote:
>
> Paolo, here's the draft blog post:
>
> *Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point
>release
> now*
> --
> QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially
> released at the end of October 2019 have likely noticed a
>sharp drop in
> reliability. The underlying issues have now been addressed in
>3.10.2, all
> users are advised to update *now*.
>
> When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019,
>a
> pair of libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to
>their
> next-generation versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF
>export[1]
> support, more accurate coordinate transformation, etc. For
>those
> interested, more technical information on this is available
>here[2].
>
> The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of
> regressions. While we expected some issues to arise, the
>seriousness of the
> disruption caught us off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat
>inevitable: QGIS
> is the first large GIS project to expose these next-generation
>libraries to
> the masses. The large number of QGIS users across the globe
>were
> essentially stress testing both new code within QGIS as well
>as the
> libraries themselves.
>
> Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and
>the
> community helping out as well as our project sponsors for
>allowing us to
> fund development time, developers have been able to fix all
>known
> regressions in both in QGIS as well as underlying GDAL and
>PROJ libraries,
> benefiting a large number of open source projects.
>
> As a result of this collective effort by the community, QGIS
>3.10.2
> is now back to being the reliable and stable GIS software we
>all love. As
> such, we cannot stress enough the important of updating now.
>
> Once again, thanks to our community of testers, sponsors, and
> developers for their countless hours and efforts in making
>QGIS better.
>
> Happy mapping!
>
> [1] 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Mathieu Pellerin]

Fantastic, thank you.

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020, 15:48 Anita Graser  wrote:

> I can do it.
>
> Regards,
> Anita
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:15 AM Mathieu Pellerin 
> wrote:
>
>> Jürgen, thanks for the successful re-release of 3.10.2.
>>
>> Paolo, Anita, who is in a position to publish the drafted post on the
>> blog?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 10:59 Mathieu Pellerin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 to that plan. We're 33% done already since the blocking PR has been
>>> merged.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 6:47 PM Matthias Kuhn 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 How about

 - Waiting for https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/33971

 - Releasing 3.10.3

 - Announce on twitter, blog, news panel

 Clear cut for everyone (including those 95% of our users not following
 [qgis on] twitter)

 Matthias
 On 1/22/20 12:39 PM, Anita Graser wrote:

 Is it time to send an update on Twitter yet? I don't see new installers
 at https://qgis.org/downloads/

 Regards,
 Anita

 On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:08 AM Mathieu Pellerin 
 wrote:

> I think the QGIS twitter account already mentioned that the 3.10.2
> installer had been retired due to issues and re-build.
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:07 PM DelazJ  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thanks Mathieu. Should it be 3.10.2 or 3.10.3? Asking because those
>> who have already downloaded the broken 3.10.2 may not think to update.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Harrissou
>>
>> Le mer. 22 janv. 2020 à 11:05, Mathieu Pellerin 
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Matthias,
>>>
>>> Good idea.
>>>
>>> Math
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:02 PM Matthias Kuhn 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Mathieu,

 Thanks a lot. It reads very well!

 Something that I'd like to add is that in case of still finding a
 bug, users should file issues and to mention proximity of LTR 
 replacement.
 If you still happen to find QGIS behaving in an unexpected way,
 please let us know on https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues
 
 as always. We are very happy that QGIS 3.10 is now in shape to replace 
 3.4
 as LTR in a month time.

 Bests
 Matthias


 On 1/22/20 10:58 AM, Mathieu Pellerin wrote:

 Paolo, here's the draft blog post:

 *Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point release
 now*
 --
 QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially
 released at the end of October 2019 have likely noticed a sharp drop in
 reliability. The underlying issues have now been addressed in 3.10.2, 
 all
 users are advised to update *now*.

 When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019, a
 pair of libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to their
 next-generation versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF export[1]
 support, more accurate coordinate transformation, etc. For those
 interested, more technical information on this is available here[2].

 The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of
 regressions. While we expected some issues to arise, the seriousness 
 of the
 disruption caught us off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat inevitable: 
 QGIS
 is the first large GIS project to expose these next-generation 
 libraries to
 the masses. The large number of QGIS users across the globe were
 essentially stress testing both new code within QGIS as well as the
 libraries themselves.

 Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and the
 community helping out as well as our project sponsors for allowing us 
 to
 fund development time, developers have been able to fix all known
 regressions in both in QGIS as well as underlying GDAL and PROJ 
 libraries,
 benefiting a large number of open source projects.

 As a result of this collective effort by the community, QGIS 3.10.2
 is now back to being the reliable and stable GIS software we all love. 
 As
 such, we cannot stress enough the important of updating now.

 Once again, thanks to our community of testers, sponsors, and
 developers for their countless hours and efforts in making QGIS better.

 Happy mapping!

 [1] https://north-road.com/2019/09/03/qgis-3-10-loves-geopdf/
 [2] https://gdalbarn.com/

 On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini <
 cavall...@faunalia.it> wrote:

> Fully 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Anita Graser]

I can do it.

Regards,
Anita

On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:15 AM Mathieu Pellerin 
wrote:

> Jürgen, thanks for the successful re-release of 3.10.2.
>
> Paolo, Anita, who is in a position to publish the drafted post on the blog?
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 10:59 Mathieu Pellerin  wrote:
>
>> +1 to that plan. We're 33% done already since the blocking PR has been
>> merged.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 6:47 PM Matthias Kuhn 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How about
>>>
>>> - Waiting for https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/33971
>>>
>>> - Releasing 3.10.3
>>>
>>> - Announce on twitter, blog, news panel
>>>
>>> Clear cut for everyone (including those 95% of our users not following
>>> [qgis on] twitter)
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>> On 1/22/20 12:39 PM, Anita Graser wrote:
>>>
>>> Is it time to send an update on Twitter yet? I don't see new installers
>>> at https://qgis.org/downloads/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Anita
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:08 AM Mathieu Pellerin 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I think the QGIS twitter account already mentioned that the 3.10.2
 installer had been retired due to issues and re-build.

 On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:07 PM DelazJ  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Thanks Mathieu. Should it be 3.10.2 or 3.10.3? Asking because those
> who have already downloaded the broken 3.10.2 may not think to update.
>
> Regards,
> Harrissou
>
> Le mer. 22 janv. 2020 à 11:05, Mathieu Pellerin 
> a écrit :
>
>> Matthias,
>>
>> Good idea.
>>
>> Math
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:02 PM Matthias Kuhn 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mathieu,
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot. It reads very well!
>>>
>>> Something that I'd like to add is that in case of still finding a
>>> bug, users should file issues and to mention proximity of LTR 
>>> replacement.
>>> If you still happen to find QGIS behaving in an unexpected way,
>>> please let us know on https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues
>>> 
>>> as always. We are very happy that QGIS 3.10 is now in shape to replace 
>>> 3.4
>>> as LTR in a month time.
>>>
>>> Bests
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/22/20 10:58 AM, Mathieu Pellerin wrote:
>>>
>>> Paolo, here's the draft blog post:
>>>
>>> *Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point release now*
>>> --
>>> QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially released
>>> at the end of October 2019 have likely noticed a sharp drop in 
>>> reliability.
>>> The underlying issues have now been addressed in 3.10.2, all users are
>>> advised to update *now*.
>>>
>>> When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019, a pair
>>> of libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to their 
>>> next-generation
>>> versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF export[1] support, more
>>> accurate coordinate transformation, etc. For those interested, more
>>> technical information on this is available here[2].
>>>
>>> The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of
>>> regressions. While we expected some issues to arise, the seriousness of 
>>> the
>>> disruption caught us off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat inevitable: 
>>> QGIS
>>> is the first large GIS project to expose these next-generation 
>>> libraries to
>>> the masses. The large number of QGIS users across the globe were
>>> essentially stress testing both new code within QGIS as well as the
>>> libraries themselves.
>>>
>>> Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and the
>>> community helping out as well as our project sponsors for allowing us to
>>> fund development time, developers have been able to fix all known
>>> regressions in both in QGIS as well as underlying GDAL and PROJ 
>>> libraries,
>>> benefiting a large number of open source projects.
>>>
>>> As a result of this collective effort by the community, QGIS 3.10.2
>>> is now back to being the reliable and stable GIS software we all love. 
>>> As
>>> such, we cannot stress enough the important of updating now.
>>>
>>> Once again, thanks to our community of testers, sponsors, and
>>> developers for their countless hours and efforts in making QGIS better.
>>>
>>> Happy mapping!
>>>
>>> [1] https://north-road.com/2019/09/03/qgis-3-10-loves-geopdf/
>>> [2] https://gdalbarn.com/
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini <
>>> cavall...@faunalia.it> wrote:
>>>
 Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
 Thanks.

 On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin <
 nirvn.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +100 on all that's been said here.

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Mathieu Pellerin]

Jürgen, thanks for the successful re-release of 3.10.2.

Paolo, Anita, who is in a position to publish the drafted post on the blog?


On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 10:59 Mathieu Pellerin  wrote:

> +1 to that plan. We're 33% done already since the blocking PR has been
> merged.
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 6:47 PM Matthias Kuhn  wrote:
>
>> How about
>>
>> - Waiting for https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/33971
>>
>> - Releasing 3.10.3
>>
>> - Announce on twitter, blog, news panel
>>
>> Clear cut for everyone (including those 95% of our users not following
>> [qgis on] twitter)
>>
>> Matthias
>> On 1/22/20 12:39 PM, Anita Graser wrote:
>>
>> Is it time to send an update on Twitter yet? I don't see new installers
>> at https://qgis.org/downloads/
>>
>> Regards,
>> Anita
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:08 AM Mathieu Pellerin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the QGIS twitter account already mentioned that the 3.10.2
>>> installer had been retired due to issues and re-build.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:07 PM DelazJ  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 Thanks Mathieu. Should it be 3.10.2 or 3.10.3? Asking because those who
 have already downloaded the broken 3.10.2 may not think to update.

 Regards,
 Harrissou

 Le mer. 22 janv. 2020 à 11:05, Mathieu Pellerin 
 a écrit :

> Matthias,
>
> Good idea.
>
> Math
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:02 PM Matthias Kuhn 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mathieu,
>>
>> Thanks a lot. It reads very well!
>>
>> Something that I'd like to add is that in case of still finding a
>> bug, users should file issues and to mention proximity of LTR 
>> replacement.
>> If you still happen to find QGIS behaving in an unexpected way,
>> please let us know on https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues
>> 
>> as always. We are very happy that QGIS 3.10 is now in shape to replace 
>> 3.4
>> as LTR in a month time.
>>
>> Bests
>> Matthias
>>
>>
>> On 1/22/20 10:58 AM, Mathieu Pellerin wrote:
>>
>> Paolo, here's the draft blog post:
>>
>> *Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point release now*
>> --
>> QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially released
>> at the end of October 2019 have likely noticed a sharp drop in 
>> reliability.
>> The underlying issues have now been addressed in 3.10.2, all users are
>> advised to update *now*.
>>
>> When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019, a pair
>> of libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to their 
>> next-generation
>> versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF export[1] support, more
>> accurate coordinate transformation, etc. For those interested, more
>> technical information on this is available here[2].
>>
>> The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of regressions.
>> While we expected some issues to arise, the seriousness of the disruption
>> caught us off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat inevitable: QGIS is the
>> first large GIS project to expose these next-generation libraries to the
>> masses. The large number of QGIS users across the globe were essentially
>> stress testing both new code within QGIS as well as the libraries
>> themselves.
>>
>> Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and the
>> community helping out as well as our project sponsors for allowing us to
>> fund development time, developers have been able to fix all known
>> regressions in both in QGIS as well as underlying GDAL and PROJ 
>> libraries,
>> benefiting a large number of open source projects.
>>
>> As a result of this collective effort by the community, QGIS 3.10.2
>> is now back to being the reliable and stable GIS software we all love. As
>> such, we cannot stress enough the important of updating now.
>>
>> Once again, thanks to our community of testers, sponsors, and
>> developers for their countless hours and efforts in making QGIS better.
>>
>> Happy mapping!
>>
>> [1] https://north-road.com/2019/09/03/qgis-3-10-loves-geopdf/
>> [2] https://gdalbarn.com/
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini <
>> cavall...@faunalia.it> wrote:
>>
>>> Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin <
>>> nirvn.a...@gmail.com> wrote:

 +100 on all that's been said here.

 Also, once 3.10.2 is updated to include the updated packages &
 above-referred fix, I'd suggest writing a QGIS.org blog post to inform
 users of the worthiness of updating to 3.10.2(.2) *ASAP*, and expand a 
 bit
 on why 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Mathieu Pellerin]

+1 to that plan. We're 33% done already since the blocking PR has been
merged.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 6:47 PM Matthias Kuhn  wrote:

> How about
>
> - Waiting for https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/33971
>
> - Releasing 3.10.3
>
> - Announce on twitter, blog, news panel
>
> Clear cut for everyone (including those 95% of our users not following
> [qgis on] twitter)
>
> Matthias
> On 1/22/20 12:39 PM, Anita Graser wrote:
>
> Is it time to send an update on Twitter yet? I don't see new installers at
> https://qgis.org/downloads/
>
> Regards,
> Anita
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:08 AM Mathieu Pellerin 
> wrote:
>
>> I think the QGIS twitter account already mentioned that the 3.10.2
>> installer had been retired due to issues and re-build.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:07 PM DelazJ  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thanks Mathieu. Should it be 3.10.2 or 3.10.3? Asking because those who
>>> have already downloaded the broken 3.10.2 may not think to update.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Harrissou
>>>
>>> Le mer. 22 janv. 2020 à 11:05, Mathieu Pellerin 
>>> a écrit :
>>>
 Matthias,

 Good idea.

 Math

 On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:02 PM Matthias Kuhn 
 wrote:

> Hi Mathieu,
>
> Thanks a lot. It reads very well!
>
> Something that I'd like to add is that in case of still finding a bug,
> users should file issues and to mention proximity of LTR replacement.
> If you still happen to find QGIS behaving in an unexpected way, please
> let us know on https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues
> 
> as always. We are very happy that QGIS 3.10 is now in shape to replace 3.4
> as LTR in a month time.
>
> Bests
> Matthias
>
>
> On 1/22/20 10:58 AM, Mathieu Pellerin wrote:
>
> Paolo, here's the draft blog post:
>
> *Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point release now*
> --
> QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially released
> at the end of October 2019 have likely noticed a sharp drop in 
> reliability.
> The underlying issues have now been addressed in 3.10.2, all users are
> advised to update *now*.
>
> When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019, a pair
> of libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to their 
> next-generation
> versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF export[1] support, more
> accurate coordinate transformation, etc. For those interested, more
> technical information on this is available here[2].
>
> The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of regressions.
> While we expected some issues to arise, the seriousness of the disruption
> caught us off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat inevitable: QGIS is the
> first large GIS project to expose these next-generation libraries to the
> masses. The large number of QGIS users across the globe were essentially
> stress testing both new code within QGIS as well as the libraries
> themselves.
>
> Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and the
> community helping out as well as our project sponsors for allowing us to
> fund development time, developers have been able to fix all known
> regressions in both in QGIS as well as underlying GDAL and PROJ libraries,
> benefiting a large number of open source projects.
>
> As a result of this collective effort by the community, QGIS 3.10.2 is
> now back to being the reliable and stable GIS software we all love. As
> such, we cannot stress enough the important of updating now.
>
> Once again, thanks to our community of testers, sponsors, and
> developers for their countless hours and efforts in making QGIS better.
>
> Happy mapping!
>
> [1] https://north-road.com/2019/09/03/qgis-3-10-loves-geopdf/
> [2] https://gdalbarn.com/
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini 
> wrote:
>
>> Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin <
>> nirvn.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> +100 on all that's been said here.
>>>
>>> Also, once 3.10.2 is updated to include the updated packages &
>>> above-referred fix, I'd suggest writing a QGIS.org blog post to inform
>>> users of the worthiness of updating to 3.10.2(.2) *ASAP*, and expand a 
>>> bit
>>> on why 3.10.0/.1 were such rough releases. We can finish the post by
>>> thanking users that have reported bugs (an inevitable nightmare to go
>>> through as QGIS was exposing brand new GDAL3/PROJ6 versions to the 
>>> masses).
>>> IMHO, we should not skip this communication to our users.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:27 AM Nyall Dawson 
>>> 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Anita Graser]

Thank you for proof reading, Stefan!

Please note, however, that the tone of the message (i.e. "Posting that
would be embarrassing") may come off as rude.

As our code of conduct [0] states: "Be kind to others. Do not insult or put
down other participants."

Regards,
Anita

[0]
https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/codeofconduct/codeofconduct.html



On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 4:52 PM Stefan Steiger 
wrote:

> You made a mistake translating/editing:
>
> „the impor*tant* of“ è „the impor*tance* of“
>
>
>
> As such, we cannot stress enough the important of updating now.
> è
>
> As such, we cannot stress enough the *importance* of updating now.
>
>
>
> Posting that would be embarrassing
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* QGIS-Developer [mailto:qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *Im
> Auftrag von *Mathieu Pellerin
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2020 10:58
> *An:* Paolo Cavallini ; qgis-developer <
> qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org>
> *Betreff:* Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2
> installer from site
>
>
>
> Paolo, here's the draft blog post:
>
>
>
> *Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point release now*
> --
> QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially released at
> the end of October 2019 have likely noticed a sharp drop in reliability.
> The underlying issues have now been addressed in 3.10.2, all users are
> advised to update *now*.
>
> When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019, a pair of
> libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to their next-generation
> versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF export[1] support, more
> accurate coordinate transformation, etc. For those interested, more
> technical information on this is available here[2].
>
> The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of regressions.
> While we expected some issues to arise, the seriousness of the disruption
> caught us off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat inevitable: QGIS is the
> first large GIS project to expose these next-generation libraries to the
> masses. The large number of QGIS users across the globe were essentially
> stress testing both new code within QGIS as well as the libraries
> themselves.
>
> Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and the community
> helping out as well as our project sponsors for allowing us to fund
> development time, developers have been able to fix all known regressions in
> both in QGIS as well as underlying GDAL and PROJ libraries, benefiting a
> large number of open source projects.
>
> As a result of this collective effort by the community, QGIS 3.10.2 is now
> back to being the reliable and stable GIS software we all love. As such, we
> cannot stress enough the important of updating now.
>
> Once again, thanks to our community of testers, sponsors, and developers
> for their countless hours and efforts in making QGIS better.
>
> Happy mapping!
>
> [1] https://north-road.com/2019/09/03/qgis-3-10-loves-geopdf/
> [2] https://gdalbarn.com/
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini 
> wrote:
>
> Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
> Thanks.
>
> On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin <
> nirvn.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +100 on all that's been said here.
>
>
>
> Also, once 3.10.2 is updated to include the updated packages &
> above-referred fix, I'd suggest writing a QGIS.org blog post to inform
> users of the worthiness of updating to 3.10.2(.2) *ASAP*, and expand a bit
> on why 3.10.0/.1 were such rough releases. We can finish the post by
> thanking users that have reported bugs (an inevitable nightmare to go
> through as QGIS was exposing brand new GDAL3/PROJ6 versions to the masses).
> IMHO, we should not skip this communication to our users.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:27 AM Nyall Dawson 
> wrote:
>
> Also, we better wait for a fix for
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/33902 (incoming)...
>
> Gosh, will the nightmare ever end... Let's agree never to change
> anything in gdal or proj or qgis ever again ;)
>
> Nyall
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Nyall Dawson 
> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 06:28
> Subject: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site
> To: qgis-developer 
>
>
> Can we please remove the 3.10.2 installer from the website as a matter
> of urgency? This installer was released using the older gdal 3.0.2 and
> proj 6.2 versions, which directly lead to crashes and reprojection
> failures in QGIS.
>
> QGIS SHOULD NEVER 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Stefan Steiger]

You made a mistake translating/editing:
„the important of“ ==> „the importance of“

As such, we cannot stress enough the important of updating now.
==>
As such, we cannot stress enough the importance of updating now.


Posting that would be embarrassing



Von: QGIS-Developer [mailto:qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Im Auftrag 
von Mathieu Pellerin
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Januar 2020 10:58
An: Paolo Cavallini ; qgis-developer 

Betreff: Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from 
site

Paolo, here's the draft blog post:

*Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point release now*
--
QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially released at the end 
of October 2019 have likely noticed a sharp drop in reliability. The underlying 
issues have now been addressed in 3.10.2, all users are advised to update *now*.

When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019, a pair of 
libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to their next-generation 
versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF export[1] support, more accurate 
coordinate transformation, etc. For those interested, more technical 
information on this is available here[2].

The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of regressions. While we 
expected some issues to arise, the seriousness of the disruption caught us off 
guard. Yet, it was also somewhat inevitable: QGIS is the first large GIS 
project to expose these next-generation libraries to the masses. The large 
number of QGIS users across the globe were essentially stress testing both new 
code within QGIS as well as the libraries themselves.

Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and the community 
helping out as well as our project sponsors for allowing us to fund development 
time, developers have been able to fix all known regressions in both in QGIS as 
well as underlying GDAL and PROJ libraries, benefiting a large number of open 
source projects.

As a result of this collective effort by the community, QGIS 3.10.2 is now back 
to being the reliable and stable GIS software we all love. As such, we cannot 
stress enough the important of updating now.

Once again, thanks to our community of testers, sponsors, and developers for 
their countless hours and efforts in making QGIS better.

Happy mapping!

[1] https://north-road.com/2019/09/03/qgis-3-10-loves-geopdf/
[2] https://gdalbarn.com/

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini 
mailto:cavall...@faunalia.it>> wrote:
Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
Thanks.
On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin 
mailto:nirvn.a...@gmail.com>> wrote:
+100 on all that's been said here.

Also, once 3.10.2 is updated to include the updated packages & above-referred 
fix, I'd suggest writing a QGIS.org blog post to inform users of the worthiness 
of updating to 3.10.2(.2) *ASAP*, and expand a bit on why 3.10.0/.1 were such 
rough releases. We can finish the post by thanking users that have reported 
bugs (an inevitable nightmare to go through as QGIS was exposing brand new 
GDAL3/PROJ6 versions to the masses). IMHO, we should not skip this 
communication to our users.

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:27 AM Nyall Dawson 
mailto:nyall.daw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Also, we better wait for a fix for
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/33902 (incoming)...

Gosh, will the nightmare ever end... Let's agree never to change
anything in gdal or proj or qgis ever again ;)

Nyall


-- Forwarded message -
From: Nyall Dawson mailto:nyall.daw...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 06:28
Subject: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site
To: qgis-developer 
mailto:qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org>>


Can we please remove the 3.10.2 installer from the website as a matter
of urgency? This installer was released using the older gdal 3.0.2 and
proj 6.2 versions, which directly lead to crashes and reprojection
failures in QGIS.

QGIS SHOULD NEVER EVER*** be
used with gdal >= 3 and gdal < 3.0.3 or proj >6 and proj < 6.3.0.

This combination is a world of hurt for users :(

Tickets filed at https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/618, and
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/617, and later today I'm going
to commit cmake blocks which will completely prevent compilation under
the affected gdal/proj versions.

Nyall
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Luigi Pirelli]

do we need a mechanism to notify and deprecate 3.10.2 in case packages are
still available all around?

Luigi Pirelli

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On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 12:47, Matthias Kuhn  wrote:

> How about
>
> - Waiting for https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/33971
>
> - Releasing 3.10.3
>
> - Announce on twitter, blog, news panel
>
> Clear cut for everyone (including those 95% of our users not following
> [qgis on] twitter)
>
> Matthias
> On 1/22/20 12:39 PM, Anita Graser wrote:
>
> Is it time to send an update on Twitter yet? I don't see new installers at
> https://qgis.org/downloads/
>
> Regards,
> Anita
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:08 AM Mathieu Pellerin 
> wrote:
>
>> I think the QGIS twitter account already mentioned that the 3.10.2
>> installer had been retired due to issues and re-build.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:07 PM DelazJ  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thanks Mathieu. Should it be 3.10.2 or 3.10.3? Asking because those who
>>> have already downloaded the broken 3.10.2 may not think to update.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Harrissou
>>>
>>> Le mer. 22 janv. 2020 à 11:05, Mathieu Pellerin 
>>> a écrit :
>>>
 Matthias,

 Good idea.

 Math

 On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:02 PM Matthias Kuhn 
 wrote:

> Hi Mathieu,
>
> Thanks a lot. It reads very well!
>
> Something that I'd like to add is that in case of still finding a bug,
> users should file issues and to mention proximity of LTR replacement.
> If you still happen to find QGIS behaving in an unexpected way, please
> let us know on https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues
> 
> as always. We are very happy that QGIS 3.10 is now in shape to replace 3.4
> as LTR in a month time.
>
> Bests
> Matthias
>
>
> On 1/22/20 10:58 AM, Mathieu Pellerin wrote:
>
> Paolo, here's the draft blog post:
>
> *Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point release now*
> --
> QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially released
> at the end of October 2019 have likely noticed a sharp drop in 
> reliability.
> The underlying issues have now been addressed in 3.10.2, all users are
> advised to update *now*.
>
> When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019, a pair
> of libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to their 
> next-generation
> versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF export[1] support, more
> accurate coordinate transformation, etc. For those interested, more
> technical information on this is available here[2].
>
> The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of regressions.
> While we expected some issues to arise, the seriousness of the disruption
> caught us off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat inevitable: QGIS is the
> first large GIS project to expose these next-generation libraries to the
> masses. The large number of QGIS users across the globe were essentially
> stress testing both new code within QGIS as well as the libraries
> themselves.
>
> Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and the
> community helping out as well as our project sponsors for allowing us to
> fund development time, developers have been able to fix all known
> regressions in both in QGIS as well as underlying GDAL and PROJ libraries,
> benefiting a large number of open source projects.
>
> As a result of this collective effort by the community, QGIS 3.10.2 is
> now back to being the reliable and stable GIS software we all love. As
> such, we cannot stress enough the important of updating now.
>
> Once again, thanks to our community of testers, sponsors, and
> developers for their countless hours and efforts in making QGIS better.
>
> Happy mapping!
>
> [1] https://north-road.com/2019/09/03/qgis-3-10-loves-geopdf/
> [2] https://gdalbarn.com/
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini 
> wrote:
>
>> Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin <
>> nirvn.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> +100 on all that's been said here.
>>>
>>> Also, once 3.10.2 is updated 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Luigi Pirelli]

+1 to mathias proposal

Luigi Pirelli

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On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 12:47, Matthias Kuhn  wrote:

> How about
>
> - Waiting for https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/33971
>
> - Releasing 3.10.3
>
> - Announce on twitter, blog, news panel
>
> Clear cut for everyone (including those 95% of our users not following
> [qgis on] twitter)
>
> Matthias
> On 1/22/20 12:39 PM, Anita Graser wrote:
>
> Is it time to send an update on Twitter yet? I don't see new installers at
> https://qgis.org/downloads/
>
> Regards,
> Anita
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:08 AM Mathieu Pellerin 
> wrote:
>
>> I think the QGIS twitter account already mentioned that the 3.10.2
>> installer had been retired due to issues and re-build.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:07 PM DelazJ  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thanks Mathieu. Should it be 3.10.2 or 3.10.3? Asking because those who
>>> have already downloaded the broken 3.10.2 may not think to update.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Harrissou
>>>
>>> Le mer. 22 janv. 2020 à 11:05, Mathieu Pellerin 
>>> a écrit :
>>>
 Matthias,

 Good idea.

 Math

 On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:02 PM Matthias Kuhn 
 wrote:

> Hi Mathieu,
>
> Thanks a lot. It reads very well!
>
> Something that I'd like to add is that in case of still finding a bug,
> users should file issues and to mention proximity of LTR replacement.
> If you still happen to find QGIS behaving in an unexpected way, please
> let us know on https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues
> 
> as always. We are very happy that QGIS 3.10 is now in shape to replace 3.4
> as LTR in a month time.
>
> Bests
> Matthias
>
>
> On 1/22/20 10:58 AM, Mathieu Pellerin wrote:
>
> Paolo, here's the draft blog post:
>
> *Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point release now*
> --
> QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially released
> at the end of October 2019 have likely noticed a sharp drop in 
> reliability.
> The underlying issues have now been addressed in 3.10.2, all users are
> advised to update *now*.
>
> When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019, a pair
> of libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to their 
> next-generation
> versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF export[1] support, more
> accurate coordinate transformation, etc. For those interested, more
> technical information on this is available here[2].
>
> The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of regressions.
> While we expected some issues to arise, the seriousness of the disruption
> caught us off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat inevitable: QGIS is the
> first large GIS project to expose these next-generation libraries to the
> masses. The large number of QGIS users across the globe were essentially
> stress testing both new code within QGIS as well as the libraries
> themselves.
>
> Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and the
> community helping out as well as our project sponsors for allowing us to
> fund development time, developers have been able to fix all known
> regressions in both in QGIS as well as underlying GDAL and PROJ libraries,
> benefiting a large number of open source projects.
>
> As a result of this collective effort by the community, QGIS 3.10.2 is
> now back to being the reliable and stable GIS software we all love. As
> such, we cannot stress enough the important of updating now.
>
> Once again, thanks to our community of testers, sponsors, and
> developers for their countless hours and efforts in making QGIS better.
>
> Happy mapping!
>
> [1] https://north-road.com/2019/09/03/qgis-3-10-loves-geopdf/
> [2] https://gdalbarn.com/
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini 
> wrote:
>
>> Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin <
>> nirvn.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> +100 on all that's been said here.
>>>
>>> Also, once 3.10.2 is updated to include the updated packages &
>>> above-referred fix, I'd suggest writing 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Matthias Kuhn]

How about

- Waiting for https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/33971

- Releasing 3.10.3

- Announce on twitter, blog, news panel

Clear cut for everyone (including those 95% of our users not following 
[qgis on] twitter)


Matthias

On 1/22/20 12:39 PM, Anita Graser wrote:
Is it time to send an update on Twitter yet? I don't see new 
installers at https://qgis.org/downloads/


Regards,
Anita

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:08 AM Mathieu Pellerin 
mailto:nirvn.a...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I think the QGIS twitter account already mentioned that the 3.10.2
installer had been retired due to issues and re-build.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:07 PM DelazJ mailto:del...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

Thanks Mathieu. Should it be 3.10.2 or 3.10.3? Asking because
those who have already downloaded the broken 3.10.2 may not
think to update.

Regards,
Harrissou

Le mer. 22 janv. 2020 à 11:05, Mathieu Pellerin
mailto:nirvn.a...@gmail.com>> a écrit :

Matthias,

Good idea.

Math

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:02 PM Matthias Kuhn
mailto:matth...@opengis.ch>> wrote:

Hi Mathieu,

Thanks a lot. It reads very well!

Something that I'd like to add is that in case of
still finding a bug, users should file issues and to
mention proximity of LTR replacement.

If you still happen to find QGIS behaving in an
unexpected way, please let us know on
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues


as always. We are very happy that QGIS 3.10 is now in
shape to replace 3.4 as LTR in a month time.

Bests
Matthias


On 1/22/20 10:58 AM, Mathieu Pellerin wrote:

Paolo, here's the draft blog post:

*Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest
point release now*
--
QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when
initially released at the end of October 2019 have
likely noticed a sharp drop in reliability. The
underlying issues have now been addressed in 3.10.2,
all users are advised to update *now*.

When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of
October 2019, a pair of libraries – namely GDAL and
PROJ – were updated to their next-generation
versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF export[1]
support, more accurate coordinate transformation,
etc. For those interested, more technical information
on this is available here[2].

The update of these crucial libraries led to a number
of regressions. While we expected some issues to
arise, the seriousness of the disruption caught us
off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat inevitable: QGIS
is the first large GIS project to expose these
next-generation libraries to the masses. The large
number of QGIS users across the globe were
essentially stress testing both new code within QGIS
as well as the libraries themselves.

Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in
report and the community helping out as well as our
project sponsors for allowing us to fund development
time, developers have been able to fix all known
regressions in both in QGIS as well as underlying
GDAL and PROJ libraries, benefiting a large number of
open source projects.

As a result of this collective effort by the
community, QGIS 3.10.2 is now back to being the
reliable and stable GIS software we all love. As
such, we cannot stress enough the important of
updating now.

Once again, thanks to our community of testers,
sponsors, and developers for their countless hours
and efforts in making QGIS better.

Happy mapping!

[1]
https://north-road.com/2019/09/03/qgis-3-10-loves-geopdf/
[2] https://gdalbarn.com/

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini
mailto:cavall...@faunalia.it>> wrote:

Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
Thanks.

On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu
Pellerin mailto:nirvn.a...@gmail.com>> wrote:

   

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Anita Graser]

Is it time to send an update on Twitter yet? I don't see new installers at
https://qgis.org/downloads/

Regards,
Anita

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 11:08 AM Mathieu Pellerin 
wrote:

> I think the QGIS twitter account already mentioned that the 3.10.2
> installer had been retired due to issues and re-build.
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:07 PM DelazJ  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thanks Mathieu. Should it be 3.10.2 or 3.10.3? Asking because those who
>> have already downloaded the broken 3.10.2 may not think to update.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Harrissou
>>
>> Le mer. 22 janv. 2020 à 11:05, Mathieu Pellerin  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Matthias,
>>>
>>> Good idea.
>>>
>>> Math
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:02 PM Matthias Kuhn 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Mathieu,

 Thanks a lot. It reads very well!

 Something that I'd like to add is that in case of still finding a bug,
 users should file issues and to mention proximity of LTR replacement.
 If you still happen to find QGIS behaving in an unexpected way, please
 let us know on https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues
 
 as always. We are very happy that QGIS 3.10 is now in shape to replace 3.4
 as LTR in a month time.

 Bests
 Matthias


 On 1/22/20 10:58 AM, Mathieu Pellerin wrote:

 Paolo, here's the draft blog post:

 *Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point release now*
 --
 QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially released at
 the end of October 2019 have likely noticed a sharp drop in reliability.
 The underlying issues have now been addressed in 3.10.2, all users are
 advised to update *now*.

 When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019, a pair of
 libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to their next-generation
 versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF export[1] support, more
 accurate coordinate transformation, etc. For those interested, more
 technical information on this is available here[2].

 The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of regressions.
 While we expected some issues to arise, the seriousness of the disruption
 caught us off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat inevitable: QGIS is the
 first large GIS project to expose these next-generation libraries to the
 masses. The large number of QGIS users across the globe were essentially
 stress testing both new code within QGIS as well as the libraries
 themselves.

 Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and the
 community helping out as well as our project sponsors for allowing us to
 fund development time, developers have been able to fix all known
 regressions in both in QGIS as well as underlying GDAL and PROJ libraries,
 benefiting a large number of open source projects.

 As a result of this collective effort by the community, QGIS 3.10.2 is
 now back to being the reliable and stable GIS software we all love. As
 such, we cannot stress enough the important of updating now.

 Once again, thanks to our community of testers, sponsors, and
 developers for their countless hours and efforts in making QGIS better.

 Happy mapping!

 [1] https://north-road.com/2019/09/03/qgis-3-10-loves-geopdf/
 [2] https://gdalbarn.com/

 On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini 
 wrote:

> Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
> Thanks.
>
> On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin <
> nirvn.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> +100 on all that's been said here.
>>
>> Also, once 3.10.2 is updated to include the updated packages &
>> above-referred fix, I'd suggest writing a QGIS.org blog post to inform
>> users of the worthiness of updating to 3.10.2(.2) *ASAP*, and expand a 
>> bit
>> on why 3.10.0/.1 were such rough releases. We can finish the post by
>> thanking users that have reported bugs (an inevitable nightmare to go
>> through as QGIS was exposing brand new GDAL3/PROJ6 versions to the 
>> masses).
>> IMHO, we should not skip this communication to our users.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:27 AM Nyall Dawson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Also, we better wait for a fix for
>>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/33902 (incoming)...
>>>
>>> Gosh, will the nightmare ever end... Let's agree never to change
>>> anything in gdal or proj or qgis ever again ;)
>>>
>>> Nyall
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: Nyall Dawson 
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 06:28
>>> Subject: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site
>>> To: qgis-developer 
>>>
>>>
>>> Can we please remove the 3.10.2 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Mathieu Pellerin]

I think the QGIS twitter account already mentioned that the 3.10.2
installer had been retired due to issues and re-build.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:07 PM DelazJ  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Thanks Mathieu. Should it be 3.10.2 or 3.10.3? Asking because those who
> have already downloaded the broken 3.10.2 may not think to update.
>
> Regards,
> Harrissou
>
> Le mer. 22 janv. 2020 à 11:05, Mathieu Pellerin  a
> écrit :
>
>> Matthias,
>>
>> Good idea.
>>
>> Math
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:02 PM Matthias Kuhn 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mathieu,
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot. It reads very well!
>>>
>>> Something that I'd like to add is that in case of still finding a bug,
>>> users should file issues and to mention proximity of LTR replacement.
>>> If you still happen to find QGIS behaving in an unexpected way, please
>>> let us know on https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues
>>> 
>>> as always. We are very happy that QGIS 3.10 is now in shape to replace 3.4
>>> as LTR in a month time.
>>>
>>> Bests
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/22/20 10:58 AM, Mathieu Pellerin wrote:
>>>
>>> Paolo, here's the draft blog post:
>>>
>>> *Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point release now*
>>> --
>>> QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially released at
>>> the end of October 2019 have likely noticed a sharp drop in reliability.
>>> The underlying issues have now been addressed in 3.10.2, all users are
>>> advised to update *now*.
>>>
>>> When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019, a pair of
>>> libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to their next-generation
>>> versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF export[1] support, more
>>> accurate coordinate transformation, etc. For those interested, more
>>> technical information on this is available here[2].
>>>
>>> The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of regressions.
>>> While we expected some issues to arise, the seriousness of the disruption
>>> caught us off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat inevitable: QGIS is the
>>> first large GIS project to expose these next-generation libraries to the
>>> masses. The large number of QGIS users across the globe were essentially
>>> stress testing both new code within QGIS as well as the libraries
>>> themselves.
>>>
>>> Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and the
>>> community helping out as well as our project sponsors for allowing us to
>>> fund development time, developers have been able to fix all known
>>> regressions in both in QGIS as well as underlying GDAL and PROJ libraries,
>>> benefiting a large number of open source projects.
>>>
>>> As a result of this collective effort by the community, QGIS 3.10.2 is
>>> now back to being the reliable and stable GIS software we all love. As
>>> such, we cannot stress enough the important of updating now.
>>>
>>> Once again, thanks to our community of testers, sponsors, and developers
>>> for their countless hours and efforts in making QGIS better.
>>>
>>> Happy mapping!
>>>
>>> [1] https://north-road.com/2019/09/03/qgis-3-10-loves-geopdf/
>>> [2] https://gdalbarn.com/
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
 Thanks.

 On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin <
 nirvn.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +100 on all that's been said here.
>
> Also, once 3.10.2 is updated to include the updated packages &
> above-referred fix, I'd suggest writing a QGIS.org blog post to inform
> users of the worthiness of updating to 3.10.2(.2) *ASAP*, and expand a bit
> on why 3.10.0/.1 were such rough releases. We can finish the post by
> thanking users that have reported bugs (an inevitable nightmare to go
> through as QGIS was exposing brand new GDAL3/PROJ6 versions to the 
> masses).
> IMHO, we should not skip this communication to our users.
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:27 AM Nyall Dawson 
> wrote:
>
>> Also, we better wait for a fix for
>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/33902 (incoming)...
>>
>> Gosh, will the nightmare ever end... Let's agree never to change
>> anything in gdal or proj or qgis ever again ;)
>>
>> Nyall
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Nyall Dawson 
>> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 06:28
>> Subject: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site
>> To: qgis-developer 
>>
>>
>> Can we please remove the 3.10.2 installer from the website as a matter
>> of urgency? This installer was released using the older gdal 3.0.2 and
>> proj 6.2 versions, which directly lead to crashes and reprojection
>> failures in QGIS.
>>
>> QGIS SHOULD NEVER EVER*** be
>> used with 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[DelazJ]

Hi all,

Thanks Mathieu. Should it be 3.10.2 or 3.10.3? Asking because those who
have already downloaded the broken 3.10.2 may not think to update.

Regards,
Harrissou

Le mer. 22 janv. 2020 à 11:05, Mathieu Pellerin  a
écrit :

> Matthias,
>
> Good idea.
>
> Math
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:02 PM Matthias Kuhn  wrote:
>
>> Hi Mathieu,
>>
>> Thanks a lot. It reads very well!
>>
>> Something that I'd like to add is that in case of still finding a bug,
>> users should file issues and to mention proximity of LTR replacement.
>> If you still happen to find QGIS behaving in an unexpected way, please
>> let us know on https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues
>> 
>> as always. We are very happy that QGIS 3.10 is now in shape to replace 3.4
>> as LTR in a month time.
>>
>> Bests
>> Matthias
>>
>>
>> On 1/22/20 10:58 AM, Mathieu Pellerin wrote:
>>
>> Paolo, here's the draft blog post:
>>
>> *Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point release now*
>> --
>> QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially released at
>> the end of October 2019 have likely noticed a sharp drop in reliability.
>> The underlying issues have now been addressed in 3.10.2, all users are
>> advised to update *now*.
>>
>> When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019, a pair of
>> libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to their next-generation
>> versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF export[1] support, more
>> accurate coordinate transformation, etc. For those interested, more
>> technical information on this is available here[2].
>>
>> The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of regressions.
>> While we expected some issues to arise, the seriousness of the disruption
>> caught us off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat inevitable: QGIS is the
>> first large GIS project to expose these next-generation libraries to the
>> masses. The large number of QGIS users across the globe were essentially
>> stress testing both new code within QGIS as well as the libraries
>> themselves.
>>
>> Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and the community
>> helping out as well as our project sponsors for allowing us to fund
>> development time, developers have been able to fix all known regressions in
>> both in QGIS as well as underlying GDAL and PROJ libraries, benefiting a
>> large number of open source projects.
>>
>> As a result of this collective effort by the community, QGIS 3.10.2 is
>> now back to being the reliable and stable GIS software we all love. As
>> such, we cannot stress enough the important of updating now.
>>
>> Once again, thanks to our community of testers, sponsors, and developers
>> for their countless hours and efforts in making QGIS better.
>>
>> Happy mapping!
>>
>> [1] https://north-road.com/2019/09/03/qgis-3-10-loves-geopdf/
>> [2] https://gdalbarn.com/
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin <
>>> nirvn.a...@gmail.com> wrote:

 +100 on all that's been said here.

 Also, once 3.10.2 is updated to include the updated packages &
 above-referred fix, I'd suggest writing a QGIS.org blog post to inform
 users of the worthiness of updating to 3.10.2(.2) *ASAP*, and expand a bit
 on why 3.10.0/.1 were such rough releases. We can finish the post by
 thanking users that have reported bugs (an inevitable nightmare to go
 through as QGIS was exposing brand new GDAL3/PROJ6 versions to the masses).
 IMHO, we should not skip this communication to our users.

 On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:27 AM Nyall Dawson 
 wrote:

> Also, we better wait for a fix for
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/33902 (incoming)...
>
> Gosh, will the nightmare ever end... Let's agree never to change
> anything in gdal or proj or qgis ever again ;)
>
> Nyall
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Nyall Dawson 
> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 06:28
> Subject: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site
> To: qgis-developer 
>
>
> Can we please remove the 3.10.2 installer from the website as a matter
> of urgency? This installer was released using the older gdal 3.0.2 and
> proj 6.2 versions, which directly lead to crashes and reprojection
> failures in QGIS.
>
> QGIS SHOULD NEVER EVER*** be
> used with gdal >= 3 and gdal < 3.0.3 or proj >6 and proj < 6.3.0.
>
> This combination is a world of hurt for users :(
>
> Tickets filed at https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/618, and
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/617, and later today I'm going
> to commit cmake blocks which will 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Mathieu Pellerin]

Matthias,

Good idea.

Math

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:02 PM Matthias Kuhn  wrote:

> Hi Mathieu,
>
> Thanks a lot. It reads very well!
>
> Something that I'd like to add is that in case of still finding a bug,
> users should file issues and to mention proximity of LTR replacement.
> If you still happen to find QGIS behaving in an unexpected way, please let
> us know on https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues
> 
> as always. We are very happy that QGIS 3.10 is now in shape to replace 3.4
> as LTR in a month time.
>
> Bests
> Matthias
>
>
> On 1/22/20 10:58 AM, Mathieu Pellerin wrote:
>
> Paolo, here's the draft blog post:
>
> *Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point release now*
> --
> QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially released at
> the end of October 2019 have likely noticed a sharp drop in reliability.
> The underlying issues have now been addressed in 3.10.2, all users are
> advised to update *now*.
>
> When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019, a pair of
> libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to their next-generation
> versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF export[1] support, more
> accurate coordinate transformation, etc. For those interested, more
> technical information on this is available here[2].
>
> The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of regressions.
> While we expected some issues to arise, the seriousness of the disruption
> caught us off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat inevitable: QGIS is the
> first large GIS project to expose these next-generation libraries to the
> masses. The large number of QGIS users across the globe were essentially
> stress testing both new code within QGIS as well as the libraries
> themselves.
>
> Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and the community
> helping out as well as our project sponsors for allowing us to fund
> development time, developers have been able to fix all known regressions in
> both in QGIS as well as underlying GDAL and PROJ libraries, benefiting a
> large number of open source projects.
>
> As a result of this collective effort by the community, QGIS 3.10.2 is now
> back to being the reliable and stable GIS software we all love. As such, we
> cannot stress enough the important of updating now.
>
> Once again, thanks to our community of testers, sponsors, and developers
> for their countless hours and efforts in making QGIS better.
>
> Happy mapping!
>
> [1] https://north-road.com/2019/09/03/qgis-3-10-loves-geopdf/
> [2] https://gdalbarn.com/
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini 
> wrote:
>
>> Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin <
>> nirvn.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> +100 on all that's been said here.
>>>
>>> Also, once 3.10.2 is updated to include the updated packages &
>>> above-referred fix, I'd suggest writing a QGIS.org blog post to inform
>>> users of the worthiness of updating to 3.10.2(.2) *ASAP*, and expand a bit
>>> on why 3.10.0/.1 were such rough releases. We can finish the post by
>>> thanking users that have reported bugs (an inevitable nightmare to go
>>> through as QGIS was exposing brand new GDAL3/PROJ6 versions to the masses).
>>> IMHO, we should not skip this communication to our users.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:27 AM Nyall Dawson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Also, we better wait for a fix for
 https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/33902 (incoming)...

 Gosh, will the nightmare ever end... Let's agree never to change
 anything in gdal or proj or qgis ever again ;)

 Nyall


 -- Forwarded message -
 From: Nyall Dawson 
 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 06:28
 Subject: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site
 To: qgis-developer 


 Can we please remove the 3.10.2 installer from the website as a matter
 of urgency? This installer was released using the older gdal 3.0.2 and
 proj 6.2 versions, which directly lead to crashes and reprojection
 failures in QGIS.

 QGIS SHOULD NEVER EVER*** be
 used with gdal >= 3 and gdal < 3.0.3 or proj >6 and proj < 6.3.0.

 This combination is a world of hurt for users :(

 Tickets filed at https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/618, and
 https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/617, and later today I'm going
 to commit cmake blocks which will completely prevent compilation under
 the affected gdal/proj versions.

 Nyall
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Matthias Kuhn]

Hi Mathieu,

Thanks a lot. It reads very well!

Something that I'd like to add is that in case of still finding a bug, 
users should file issues and to mention proximity of LTR replacement.


If you still happen to find QGIS behaving in an unexpected way, please 
let us know on https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues 
 
as always. We are very happy that QGIS 3.10 is now in shape to replace 
3.4 as LTR in a month time.


Bests
Matthias


On 1/22/20 10:58 AM, Mathieu Pellerin wrote:

Paolo, here's the draft blog post:

*Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point release now*
--
QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially released 
at the end of October 2019 have likely noticed a sharp drop in 
reliability. The underlying issues have now been addressed in 3.10.2, 
all users are advised to update *now*.


When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019, a pair 
of libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to their 
next-generation versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF export[1] 
support, more accurate coordinate transformation, etc. For those 
interested, more technical information on this is available here[2].


The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of regressions. 
While we expected some issues to arise, the seriousness of the 
disruption caught us off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat inevitable: 
QGIS is the first large GIS project to expose these next-generation 
libraries to the masses. The large number of QGIS users across the 
globe were essentially stress testing both new code within QGIS as 
well as the libraries themselves.


Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and the 
community helping out as well as our project sponsors for allowing us 
to fund development time, developers have been able to fix all known 
regressions in both in QGIS as well as underlying GDAL and PROJ 
libraries, benefiting a large number of open source projects.


As a result of this collective effort by the community, QGIS 3.10.2 is 
now back to being the reliable and stable GIS software we all love. As 
such, we cannot stress enough the important of updating now.


Once again, thanks to our community of testers, sponsors, and 
developers for their countless hours and efforts in making QGIS better.


Happy mapping!

[1] https://north-road.com/2019/09/03/qgis-3-10-loves-geopdf/
[2] https://gdalbarn.com/

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini > wrote:


Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
Thanks.

On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin
mailto:nirvn.a...@gmail.com>> wrote:

+100 on all that's been said here.

Also, once 3.10.2 is updated to include the updated packages &
above-referred fix, I'd suggest writing a QGIS.org blog post
to inform users of the worthiness of updating to 3.10.2(.2)
*ASAP*, and expand a bit on why 3.10.0/.1 were such rough
releases. We can finish the post by thanking users that have
reported bugs (an inevitable nightmare to go through as QGIS
was exposing brand new GDAL3/PROJ6 versions to the masses).
IMHO, we should not skip this communication to our users.

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:27 AM Nyall Dawson
mailto:nyall.daw...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Also, we better wait for a fix for
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/33902 (incoming)...

Gosh, will the nightmare ever end... Let's agree never to
change
anything in gdal or proj or qgis ever again ;)

Nyall


-- Forwarded message -
From: Nyall Dawson mailto:nyall.daw...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 06:28
Subject: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site
To: qgis-developer mailto:qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org>>


Can we please remove the 3.10.2 installer from the website
as a matter
of urgency? This installer was released using the older
gdal 3.0.2 and
proj 6.2 versions, which directly lead to crashes and
reprojection
failures in QGIS.

QGIS SHOULD NEVER
EVER*** be
used with gdal >= 3 and gdal < 3.0.3 or proj >6 and proj <
6.3.0.

This combination is a world of hurt for users :(

Tickets filed at
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/618, and
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/617, and later today
I'm going
to commit cmake blocks which will completely prevent
compilation under
the affected gdal/proj versions.

Nyall

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Mathieu Pellerin]

Paolo, here's the draft blog post:

*Public Service Announcement: Update to the latest point release now*
--
QGIS users who have adopted the 3.10 version when initially released at the
end of October 2019 have likely noticed a sharp drop in reliability. The
underlying issues have now been addressed in 3.10.2, all users are advised
to update *now*.

When QGIS 3.10 was first released in the end of October 2019, a pair of
libraries – namely GDAL and PROJ – were updated to their next-generation
versions. The advantages are plenty: GeoPDF export[1] support, more
accurate coordinate transformation, etc. For those interested, more
technical information on this is available here[2].

The update of these crucial libraries led to a number of regressions. While
we expected some issues to arise, the seriousness of the disruption caught
us off guard. Yet, it was also somewhat inevitable: QGIS is the first large
GIS project to expose these next-generation libraries to the masses. The
large number of QGIS users across the globe were essentially stress testing
both new code within QGIS as well as the libraries themselves.

Thanks to dedicated users taking time to file in report and the community
helping out as well as our project sponsors for allowing us to fund
development time, developers have been able to fix all known regressions in
both in QGIS as well as underlying GDAL and PROJ libraries, benefiting a
large number of open source projects.

As a result of this collective effort by the community, QGIS 3.10.2 is now
back to being the reliable and stable GIS software we all love. As such, we
cannot stress enough the important of updating now.

Once again, thanks to our community of testers, sponsors, and developers
for their countless hours and efforts in making QGIS better.

Happy mapping!

[1] https://north-road.com/2019/09/03/qgis-3-10-loves-geopdf/
[2] https://gdalbarn.com/

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini 
wrote:

> Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
> Thanks.
>
> On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin <
> nirvn.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> +100 on all that's been said here.
>>
>> Also, once 3.10.2 is updated to include the updated packages &
>> above-referred fix, I'd suggest writing a QGIS.org blog post to inform
>> users of the worthiness of updating to 3.10.2(.2) *ASAP*, and expand a bit
>> on why 3.10.0/.1 were such rough releases. We can finish the post by
>> thanking users that have reported bugs (an inevitable nightmare to go
>> through as QGIS was exposing brand new GDAL3/PROJ6 versions to the masses).
>> IMHO, we should not skip this communication to our users.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:27 AM Nyall Dawson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Also, we better wait for a fix for
>>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/33902 (incoming)...
>>>
>>> Gosh, will the nightmare ever end... Let's agree never to change
>>> anything in gdal or proj or qgis ever again ;)
>>>
>>> Nyall
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: Nyall Dawson 
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 06:28
>>> Subject: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site
>>> To: qgis-developer 
>>>
>>>
>>> Can we please remove the 3.10.2 installer from the website as a matter
>>> of urgency? This installer was released using the older gdal 3.0.2 and
>>> proj 6.2 versions, which directly lead to crashes and reprojection
>>> failures in QGIS.
>>>
>>> QGIS SHOULD NEVER EVER*** be
>>> used with gdal >= 3 and gdal < 3.0.3 or proj >6 and proj < 6.3.0.
>>>
>>> This combination is a world of hurt for users :(
>>>
>>> Tickets filed at https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/618, and
>>> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/617, and later today I'm going
>>> to commit cmake blocks which will completely prevent compilation under
>>> the affected gdal/proj versions.
>>>
>>> Nyall
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Nathan Woodrow]

Very much agree. Thanks for taking it on

On Tue., 21 Jan. 2020, 12:57 pm Mathieu Pellerin, 
wrote:

> Sure, I can draft something by the end of the day.
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini 
> wrote:
>
>> Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin <
>> nirvn.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> +100 on all that's been said here.
>>>
>>> Also, once 3.10.2 is updated to include the updated packages &
>>> above-referred fix, I'd suggest writing a QGIS.org blog post to inform
>>> users of the worthiness of updating to 3.10.2(.2) *ASAP*, and expand a bit
>>> on why 3.10.0/.1 were such rough releases. We can finish the post by
>>> thanking users that have reported bugs (an inevitable nightmare to go
>>> through as QGIS was exposing brand new GDAL3/PROJ6 versions to the masses).
>>> IMHO, we should not skip this communication to our users.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:27 AM Nyall Dawson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Also, we better wait for a fix for
 https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/33902 (incoming)...

 Gosh, will the nightmare ever end... Let's agree never to change
 anything in gdal or proj or qgis ever again ;)

 Nyall


 -- Forwarded message -
 From: Nyall Dawson 
 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 06:28
 Subject: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site
 To: qgis-developer 


 Can we please remove the 3.10.2 installer from the website as a matter
 of urgency? This installer was released using the older gdal 3.0.2 and
 proj 6.2 versions, which directly lead to crashes and reprojection
 failures in QGIS.

 QGIS SHOULD NEVER EVER*** be
 used with gdal >= 3 and gdal < 3.0.3 or proj >6 and proj < 6.3.0.

 This combination is a world of hurt for users :(

 Tickets filed at https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/618, and
 https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/617, and later today I'm going
 to commit cmake blocks which will completely prevent compilation under
 the affected gdal/proj versions.

 Nyall
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Mathieu Pellerin]

Sure, I can draft something by the end of the day.

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 9:56 AM Paolo Cavallini 
wrote:

> Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
> Thanks.
>
> On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin <
> nirvn.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> +100 on all that's been said here.
>>
>> Also, once 3.10.2 is updated to include the updated packages &
>> above-referred fix, I'd suggest writing a QGIS.org blog post to inform
>> users of the worthiness of updating to 3.10.2(.2) *ASAP*, and expand a bit
>> on why 3.10.0/.1 were such rough releases. We can finish the post by
>> thanking users that have reported bugs (an inevitable nightmare to go
>> through as QGIS was exposing brand new GDAL3/PROJ6 versions to the masses).
>> IMHO, we should not skip this communication to our users.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:27 AM Nyall Dawson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Also, we better wait for a fix for
>>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/33902 (incoming)...
>>>
>>> Gosh, will the nightmare ever end... Let's agree never to change
>>> anything in gdal or proj or qgis ever again ;)
>>>
>>> Nyall
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: Nyall Dawson 
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 06:28
>>> Subject: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site
>>> To: qgis-developer 
>>>
>>>
>>> Can we please remove the 3.10.2 installer from the website as a matter
>>> of urgency? This installer was released using the older gdal 3.0.2 and
>>> proj 6.2 versions, which directly lead to crashes and reprojection
>>> failures in QGIS.
>>>
>>> QGIS SHOULD NEVER EVER*** be
>>> used with gdal >= 3 and gdal < 3.0.3 or proj >6 and proj < 6.3.0.
>>>
>>> This combination is a world of hurt for users :(
>>>
>>> Tickets filed at https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/618, and
>>> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/617, and later today I'm going
>>> to commit cmake blocks which will completely prevent compilation under
>>> the affected gdal/proj versions.
>>>
>>> Nyall
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Paolo Cavallini]

Fully agreed. Mathieu, would you like to write it?
Thanks.

On 21 January 2020 06:39:08 GMT+04:00, Mathieu Pellerin  
wrote:
>+100 on all that's been said here.
>
>Also, once 3.10.2 is updated to include the updated packages &
>above-referred fix, I'd suggest writing a QGIS.org blog post to inform
>users of the worthiness of updating to 3.10.2(.2) *ASAP*, and expand a
>bit
>on why 3.10.0/.1 were such rough releases. We can finish the post by
>thanking users that have reported bugs (an inevitable nightmare to go
>through as QGIS was exposing brand new GDAL3/PROJ6 versions to the
>masses).
>IMHO, we should not skip this communication to our users.
>
>On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:27 AM Nyall Dawson 
>wrote:
>
>> Also, we better wait for a fix for
>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/33902 (incoming)...
>>
>> Gosh, will the nightmare ever end... Let's agree never to change
>> anything in gdal or proj or qgis ever again ;)
>>
>> Nyall
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Nyall Dawson 
>> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 06:28
>> Subject: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site
>> To: qgis-developer 
>>
>>
>> Can we please remove the 3.10.2 installer from the website as a
>matter
>> of urgency? This installer was released using the older gdal 3.0.2
>and
>> proj 6.2 versions, which directly lead to crashes and reprojection
>> failures in QGIS.
>>
>> QGIS SHOULD NEVER EVER*** be
>> used with gdal >= 3 and gdal < 3.0.3 or proj >6 and proj < 6.3.0.
>>
>> This combination is a world of hurt for users :(
>>
>> Tickets filed at https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/618, and
>> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/617, and later today I'm going
>> to commit cmake blocks which will completely prevent compilation
>under
>> the affected gdal/proj versions.
>>
>> Nyall
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Mathieu Pellerin]

+100 on all that's been said here.

Also, once 3.10.2 is updated to include the updated packages &
above-referred fix, I'd suggest writing a QGIS.org blog post to inform
users of the worthiness of updating to 3.10.2(.2) *ASAP*, and expand a bit
on why 3.10.0/.1 were such rough releases. We can finish the post by
thanking users that have reported bugs (an inevitable nightmare to go
through as QGIS was exposing brand new GDAL3/PROJ6 versions to the masses).
IMHO, we should not skip this communication to our users.

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 7:27 AM Nyall Dawson  wrote:

> Also, we better wait for a fix for
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/33902 (incoming)...
>
> Gosh, will the nightmare ever end... Let's agree never to change
> anything in gdal or proj or qgis ever again ;)
>
> Nyall
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Nyall Dawson 
> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 06:28
> Subject: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site
> To: qgis-developer 
>
>
> Can we please remove the 3.10.2 installer from the website as a matter
> of urgency? This installer was released using the older gdal 3.0.2 and
> proj 6.2 versions, which directly lead to crashes and reprojection
> failures in QGIS.
>
> QGIS SHOULD NEVER EVER*** be
> used with gdal >= 3 and gdal < 3.0.3 or proj >6 and proj < 6.3.0.
>
> This combination is a world of hurt for users :(
>
> Tickets filed at https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/618, and
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/617, and later today I'm going
> to commit cmake blocks which will completely prevent compilation under
> the affected gdal/proj versions.
>
> Nyall
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[QGIS-Developer] Fwd: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site

[Nyall Dawson]

Also, we better wait for a fix for
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/33902 (incoming)...

Gosh, will the nightmare ever end... Let's agree never to change
anything in gdal or proj or qgis ever again ;)

Nyall


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From: Nyall Dawson 
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 06:28
Subject: Urgent: Remove windows 3.10.2 installer from site
To: qgis-developer 


Can we please remove the 3.10.2 installer from the website as a matter
of urgency? This installer was released using the older gdal 3.0.2 and
proj 6.2 versions, which directly lead to crashes and reprojection
failures in QGIS.

QGIS SHOULD NEVER EVER*** be
used with gdal >= 3 and gdal < 3.0.3 or proj >6 and proj < 6.3.0.

This combination is a world of hurt for users :(

Tickets filed at https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/618, and
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/617, and later today I'm going
to commit cmake blocks which will completely prevent compilation under
the affected gdal/proj versions.

Nyall
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