Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS communication platforms
I'd recommend to whoever does pickup social media tasks, that there are tools that will allow you to cross post news to all of them from 1 interface (and even schedule the posts). Hootsuite, Buffer, etc... Just might help to make it more manageable at least for things like release announcements. Might even be able to redirect RSS of those announcements from main website to social media. Enjoy, Alex On 07/18/2016 10:44 AM, Anita Graser wrote: > Hi Mats, > > On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Mats Elfström > wrote: > >> Second, I am a volunteer. I run a Facebook page for QGIS in swedish, and >> try to pick up news on QGIS development and QGIS use of a general interest. >> Time is a factor, of course, but using FB I need not spend any time to >> maintain userlists, login procedures, web servers etc. I can spend the time >> I can offer to maintain the content of the page, which is what should >> matter in the end. >> > > Thank you for volunteering! Please get in touch with Nathan who manages > the FB account. It would be great to have someone who takes care of it. I > think we're quite well represented on Twitter but FB has been neglected so > far. > > Best wishes, > Anita > > > > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS communication platforms
Hi Mats, On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Mats Elfström wrote: > Second, I am a volunteer. I run a Facebook page for QGIS in swedish, and > try to pick up news on QGIS development and QGIS use of a general interest. > Time is a factor, of course, but using FB I need not spend any time to > maintain userlists, login procedures, web servers etc. I can spend the time > I can offer to maintain the content of the page, which is what should > matter in the end. > Thank you for volunteering! Please get in touch with Nathan who manages the FB account. It would be great to have someone who takes care of it. I think we're quite well represented on Twitter but FB has been neglected so far. Best wishes, Anita ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS communication platforms
Hint taken. Goodbye. 2016-07-18 15:42 GMT+02:00 Alessandro Pasotti : > On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Mats Elfström > wrote: > >> Hi! >> I am sad to say that I disagree strongly with the views expressed in some >> replies to my earlier post. >> >> I am a kid of 63 who has found that Facebook and Twitter are important >> and invaluable sources and platforms for both communication and >> information. >> And kids of a younger age are, and must be our target audience. I do not >> know about you abroad, but in Sweden there is an alarming lack of students >> and graduates in the geospatial sciences. It is now hard to find educated >> young people to fill the gaps when us old kids retire. I try to evangelize >> QGIS as good as I can and have opportunity to, and an FB page needs no >> explanation, while mailing lists are an unknown entity. Among younger kids, >> i mean. >> >> Second, I am a volunteer. I run a Facebook page for QGIS in swedish, and >> try to pick up news on QGIS development and QGIS use of a general interest. >> Time is a factor, of course, but using FB I need not spend any time to >> maintain userlists, login procedures, web servers etc. I can spend the time >> I can offer to maintain the content of the page, which is what should >> matter in the end. >> An I do not think that 2+ FB QGIS likers deserve to be so lightly >> disregarded. >> >> >> > > Mats, > > what's the problem here? No need for flames. > > Does anybody refused your help in spreading the word on FB? > > I'm not on FB and I will probably never be, but I've absolutely nothing > against you promoting QGIS on FB, if you feel like doing it, just do it. > > What I don't understand is why you criticize this ML, if you don't find it > useful or you don't like it, just unsubscribe. > > > -- > Alessandro Pasotti > w3: www.itopen.it > > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > -- *GisKraft*, GIS och webbkonsult Mats Elfström, Väpplingvägen 21, SE-227 38 LUND, Sweden tel: +46 70 595 39 35 / web: www.giskraft.com ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS communication platforms
You feel that to participate in the community of an open source tool I must sign up to a proprietary service who will track and advertise to me (of which none of the advertising revenue goes to qgis)? What happens in a few years when something else becomes the new hotness? What happens when Facebook becomes even more evil? Why do you want people tracking you all the time? Why are you OK forcing other people into luxury jails? Jim On July 18, 2016 9:34:10 AM EDT, "Mats Elfström" wrote: >Hi! >I am sad to say that I disagree strongly with the views expressed in >some >replies to my earlier post. > >I am a kid of 63 who has found that Facebook and Twitter are important >and >invaluable sources and platforms for both communication and >information. >And kids of a younger age are, and must be our target audience. I do >not >know about you abroad, but in Sweden there is an alarming lack of >students >and graduates in the geospatial sciences. It is now hard to find >educated >young people to fill the gaps when us old kids retire. I try to >evangelize >QGIS as good as I can and have opportunity to, and an FB page needs no >explanation, while mailing lists are an unknown entity. Among younger >kids, >i mean. > >Second, I am a volunteer. I run a Facebook page for QGIS in swedish, >and >try to pick up news on QGIS development and QGIS use of a general >interest. >Time is a factor, of course, but using FB I need not spend any time to >maintain userlists, login procedures, web servers etc. I can spend the >time >I can offer to maintain the content of the page, which is what should >matter in the end. >An I do not think that 2+ FB QGIS likers deserve to be so lightly >disregarded. > >Cheers, Mats.E > >2016-07-18 14:20 GMT+02:00 Mats Elfström : > >> Hi! >> I am sad to say that I disagree strongly with the views expressed in >some >> replies to my post. >> >> I am a kid of 63 who has found that Facebook and Twitter are >invaluable >> sources and platforms for both communication and information. >> And kids of a younger age are, and must be our target audience. I do >not >> know about you abroad, but in Sweden there is an alarming lack of >students >> and graduates in the geospatial sciences. It is now hard to find >educated >> young people to fill the gaps when us old kids retire. >> >> Second, I am a volunteer. I run a Facebook page for QGIS in swedish, >and >> try to pick up news on QGIS development and QGIS use of a general >interest. >> Time is a factor, of course, but using FB I need not spend any time >to >> maintain userlists, login procedures, web servers etc. I can spend >the time >> I can offer to maintain the content of the page, which is what should >> matter in the end. >> An I do not think that 2 FB users deserve to be so easily >disregarded. >> >> Cheers, Mats.E >> >> 2016-07-18 13:02 GMT+02:00 Nathan Woodrow : >> >>> I, along with some others, manage the Facebook and Twitter accounts. >It's >>> not normally a issue I have just been a bit slow with it lately. >>> >>> Both are updated now. >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Neumann, Andreas > >>> wrote: >>> I am not sure if Facebook is our target audience. Isn't this more >for the kids? However, if someone volunteers to work on that - feel free to do >it. On Twitter there is probably more news on QGIS - but I agree with >Strk that the mailing lists should be our primary channels - properly >archive - no restrictions - free for everyone without having to pay with your personal data. Andreas On 2016-07-18 11:51, Mats Elfström wrote: This is what 20 774 QGIS likers on Facebook get as QGIS news. Surely they are entitled to a bit more attention? Why do you cling to old century mailing lists and bulletin board technology? How many subscribe to this list? Regards, Mats.E -- *GisKraft*, GIS och webbkonsult Mats Elfström, Väpplingvägen 21, SE-227 38 LUND, Sweden tel: +46 70 595 39 35 / web: www.giskraft.com ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Qgis-user mailing list >>> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >>> List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>> Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> *GisKraft*, GIS och webbkonsult >> Mats Elfström, Väpplingvägen 21, SE-227 38 LUND, Sweden >> tel: +46 70 5
Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS communication platforms
On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Mats Elfström wrote: > Hi! > I am sad to say that I disagree strongly with the views expressed in some > replies to my earlier post. > > I am a kid of 63 who has found that Facebook and Twitter are important and > invaluable sources and platforms for both communication and information. > And kids of a younger age are, and must be our target audience. I do not > know about you abroad, but in Sweden there is an alarming lack of students > and graduates in the geospatial sciences. It is now hard to find educated > young people to fill the gaps when us old kids retire. I try to evangelize > QGIS as good as I can and have opportunity to, and an FB page needs no > explanation, while mailing lists are an unknown entity. Among younger kids, > i mean. > > Second, I am a volunteer. I run a Facebook page for QGIS in swedish, and > try to pick up news on QGIS development and QGIS use of a general interest. > Time is a factor, of course, but using FB I need not spend any time to > maintain userlists, login procedures, web servers etc. I can spend the time > I can offer to maintain the content of the page, which is what should > matter in the end. > An I do not think that 2+ FB QGIS likers deserve to be so lightly > disregarded. > > > Mats, what's the problem here? No need for flames. Does anybody refused your help in spreading the word on FB? I'm not on FB and I will probably never be, but I've absolutely nothing against you promoting QGIS on FB, if you feel like doing it, just do it. What I don't understand is why you criticize this ML, if you don't find it useful or you don't like it, just unsubscribe. -- Alessandro Pasotti w3: www.itopen.it ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS communication platforms
Hi! I am sad to say that I disagree strongly with the views expressed in some replies to my earlier post. I am a kid of 63 who has found that Facebook and Twitter are important and invaluable sources and platforms for both communication and information. And kids of a younger age are, and must be our target audience. I do not know about you abroad, but in Sweden there is an alarming lack of students and graduates in the geospatial sciences. It is now hard to find educated young people to fill the gaps when us old kids retire. I try to evangelize QGIS as good as I can and have opportunity to, and an FB page needs no explanation, while mailing lists are an unknown entity. Among younger kids, i mean. Second, I am a volunteer. I run a Facebook page for QGIS in swedish, and try to pick up news on QGIS development and QGIS use of a general interest. Time is a factor, of course, but using FB I need not spend any time to maintain userlists, login procedures, web servers etc. I can spend the time I can offer to maintain the content of the page, which is what should matter in the end. An I do not think that 2+ FB QGIS likers deserve to be so lightly disregarded. Cheers, Mats.E 2016-07-18 14:20 GMT+02:00 Mats Elfström : > Hi! > I am sad to say that I disagree strongly with the views expressed in some > replies to my post. > > I am a kid of 63 who has found that Facebook and Twitter are invaluable > sources and platforms for both communication and information. > And kids of a younger age are, and must be our target audience. I do not > know about you abroad, but in Sweden there is an alarming lack of students > and graduates in the geospatial sciences. It is now hard to find educated > young people to fill the gaps when us old kids retire. > > Second, I am a volunteer. I run a Facebook page for QGIS in swedish, and > try to pick up news on QGIS development and QGIS use of a general interest. > Time is a factor, of course, but using FB I need not spend any time to > maintain userlists, login procedures, web servers etc. I can spend the time > I can offer to maintain the content of the page, which is what should > matter in the end. > An I do not think that 2 FB users deserve to be so easily disregarded. > > Cheers, Mats.E > > 2016-07-18 13:02 GMT+02:00 Nathan Woodrow : > >> I, along with some others, manage the Facebook and Twitter accounts. It's >> not normally a issue I have just been a bit slow with it lately. >> >> Both are updated now. >> >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Neumann, Andreas >> wrote: >> >>> I am not sure if Facebook is our target audience. Isn't this more for >>> the kids? >>> >>> However, if someone volunteers to work on that - feel free to do it. >>> >>> On Twitter there is probably more news on QGIS - but I agree with Strk >>> that the mailing lists should be our primary channels - properly archive - >>> no restrictions - free for everyone without having to pay with your >>> personal data. >>> >>> Andreas >>> >>> On 2016-07-18 11:51, Mats Elfström wrote: >>> >>> >>> This is what 20 774 QGIS likers on Facebook get as QGIS news. >>> >>> >>> Surely they are entitled to a bit more attention? >>> Why do you cling to old century mailing lists and bulletin board >>> technology? >>> How many subscribe to this list? >>> >>> Regards, Mats.E >>> -- >>> >>> >>> *GisKraft*, GIS och webbkonsult >>> Mats Elfström, Väpplingvägen 21, SE-227 38 LUND, Sweden >>> tel: +46 70 595 39 35 / web: www.giskraft.com >>> >>> ___ >>> Qgis-user mailing list >>> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >>> List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>> Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Qgis-user mailing list >>> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >>> List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>> Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Qgis-user mailing list >> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org >> List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user >> > > > > -- > > > *GisKraft*, GIS och webbkonsult > Mats Elfström, Väpplingvägen 21, SE-227 38 LUND, Sweden > tel: +46 70 595 39 35 / web: www.giskraft.com > -- *GisKraft*, GIS och webbkonsult Mats Elfström, Väpplingvägen 21, SE-227 38 LUND, Sweden tel: +46 70 595 39 35 / web: www.giskraft.com ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS communication platforms
I, along with some others, manage the Facebook and Twitter accounts. It's not normally a issue I have just been a bit slow with it lately. Both are updated now. On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Neumann, Andreas wrote: > I am not sure if Facebook is our target audience. Isn't this more for the > kids? > > However, if someone volunteers to work on that - feel free to do it. > > On Twitter there is probably more news on QGIS - but I agree with Strk > that the mailing lists should be our primary channels - properly archive - > no restrictions - free for everyone without having to pay with your > personal data. > > Andreas > > On 2016-07-18 11:51, Mats Elfström wrote: > > > This is what 20 774 QGIS likers on Facebook get as QGIS news. > > > Surely they are entitled to a bit more attention? > Why do you cling to old century mailing lists and bulletin board > technology? > How many subscribe to this list? > > Regards, Mats.E > -- > > > *GisKraft*, GIS och webbkonsult > Mats Elfström, Väpplingvägen 21, SE-227 38 LUND, Sweden > tel: +46 70 595 39 35 / web: www.giskraft.com > > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > > > > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS communication platforms
I am not sure if Facebook is our target audience. Isn't this more for the kids? However, if someone volunteers to work on that - feel free to do it. On Twitter there is probably more news on QGIS - but I agree with Strk that the mailing lists should be our primary channels - properly archive - no restrictions - free for everyone without having to pay with your personal data. Andreas On 2016-07-18 11:51, Mats Elfström wrote: > This is what 20 774 QGIS likers on Facebook get as QGIS news. > > > Surely they are entitled to a bit more attention? > Why do you cling to old century mailing lists and bulletin board technology? > How many subscribe to this list? > > Regards, Mats.E > > -- > > GISKRAFT, GIS och webbkonsult > Mats Elfström, Väpplingvägen 21, SE-227 38 LUND, Sweden > tel: +46 70 595 39 35 / web: www.giskraft.com [1] > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Links: -- [1] http://www.giskraft.com ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS communication platforms
On 18-07-16 11:51, Mats Elfström wrote: > > This is what 20 774 QGIS likers on Facebook get as QGIS news. Yes, and not even translated, ugly isn't it that Facebook ;-) > Surely they are entitled to a bit more attention? Do I smell a volunteer here? Because THAT is the problem with the newer communication channels: it's just too easy to start (Google Plus, Twitter, Facebook etc etc etc), but harder to keep them going We are all volunteers you know... > Why do you cling to old century mailing lists and bulletin board technology? > How many subscribe to this list? 3600 at this moment. Regards, Richard Duivenvoorde ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS communication platforms
Hey, I run the qgis Facebook page. I will get in and do some updates. Sorry about that. On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 8:09 pm Sandro Santilli wrote: > On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 11:51:56AM +0200, Mats Elfström wrote: > > > Why do you cling to old century mailing lists and bulletin board > technology? > > Because it's libre technology. That means: fully documented in > the open, preproducible and independent of any single company. > > It's not by chances that it is centry-old, contrary to all these > toy and hyped technologies coming out because pushed by marketing > depertment and lasting not more than 10 years at most. > > > How many subscribe to this list? > > Quality is more important than quantity. > Or we'd be writing software for insects (much more than humans, > on this planet). > > --strk; > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS communication platforms
On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 11:51:56AM +0200, Mats Elfström wrote: > Why do you cling to old century mailing lists and bulletin board technology? Because it's libre technology. That means: fully documented in the open, preproducible and independent of any single company. It's not by chances that it is centry-old, contrary to all these toy and hyped technologies coming out because pushed by marketing depertment and lasting not more than 10 years at most. > How many subscribe to this list? Quality is more important than quantity. Or we'd be writing software for insects (much more than humans, on this planet). --strk; ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org List info: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user Unsubscribe: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
