Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-27 Thread Peter
Dave wrote: I think what is needed is a manufacturer license that can be extended to people who are developing hardware and who need a close level of integration between the OS and hardware. The license should have a simple per unit fee,and the manufacturer should be responsible for

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-27 Thread gdgqler
On 26 Jan 2011, at 16:11, Tony Firshman wrote: thorsten herbert wrote, on 26/Jan/11 16:01 | Jan26: Major QL hardware is practically impossible as long as the QL operating system situation remains as it has been for almost a decade. The only reasonable way out seems to be a restructured

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-27 Thread Marcel Kilgus
gdgqler wrote: One other way, for Peter, is an open source version of SMSQ. This is well overdue! Times have changed. Just for the record, the current license was quite fitting for the time and I'm still in favour of some aspects of it, but all in all I don't mind a different license if it

[Ql-Users] What would you most like to see in a new version of QDOSMSQ?

2011-01-27 Thread Norman Dunbar
I may regret starting this, but as the subject says, what would you like to see in QDOSMSQ given that we were starting from scratch with the intention of writing a completely new OS? Disclaimer: No, I'm NOT thinking of writing one! For me, the following: * Ability to hook into the OS from any

Re: [Ql-Users] What would you most like to see in a new version of QDOSMSQ?

2011-01-27 Thread gdgqler
On 27 Jan 2011, at 11:51, Norman Dunbar wrote: I may regret starting this, but as the subject says, what would you like to see in QDOSMSQ given that we were starting from scratch with the intention of writing a completely new OS? Disclaimer: No, I'm NOT thinking of writing one! For me,

Re: [Ql-Users] What would you most like to see in a new version ofQDOSMSQ?

2011-01-27 Thread Ralf Reköndt
gdgqler wrote: * A windowing system that is simple to use. From any language. This also is true of SMSQE Ahem...he meant *simple*... ;-) Cheers...Ralf ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

Re: [Ql-Users] What would you most like to see in a new version of QDOSMSQ?

2011-01-27 Thread Norman Dunbar
Hi George, * A windowing system that is simple to use. From any language. This also is true of SMSQE Is it? * Libraries that applications can link to at run time, as opposed to static linking at compile time. How would that work? If I write a program I like to know in advance what it

Re: [Ql-Users] What would you most like to see in a new version ofQDOSMSQ?

2011-01-27 Thread gdgqler
On 27 Jan 2011, at 15:14, Ralf Reköndt wrote: * A windowing system that is simple to use. From any language. This also is true of SMSQE Ahem...he meant *simple*... ;-) Yes . . Well . I've tried Visual Basic and I very much prefer ... TurboPTR. (And also Assembler, after prodding by

Re: [Ql-Users] What would you most like to see in a new version of QDOSMSQ?

2011-01-27 Thread gdgqler
On 27 Jan 2011, at 15:18, Norman Dunbar wrote: * Libraries that applications can link to at run time, as opposed to static linking at compile time. How would that work? If I write a program I like to know in advance what it will contain True, but lets say you have a graphics application

Re: [Ql-Users] What would you most like to see in a new version ofQDOSMSQ?

2011-01-27 Thread Ralf Reköndt
gdgqler wrote: It seems dangerous to me to rely on a routine which might have changed since the last time you looked at it. How can you know that the next time your program runs it won't produce different or faulty results because the DLL now contains something different? Hmm, this seems to

Re: [Ql-Users] What would you most like to see in a new version of QDOSMSQ?

2011-01-27 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 27/01/11 15:48, gdgqler wrote: Of course. but why at runtime? Code reuse and/or share-ability. If you have 10 applications running and each one needs the same library code, isn't it much better to have one copy used by all, rather than running the system with 10 copies of the same code? That

Re: [Ql-Users] What would you most like to see in a new version ofQDOSMSQ?

2011-01-27 Thread Norman Dunbar
Hi Ralf, Would be better as a kind of THG% in the system. I see you beat me to it! However, that is in the existing QDOSMSQ system. A brand new one may decide to implement the JPEG Thing differently, perhaps. Cheers, Norman. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address:

Re: [Ql-Users] What would you most like to see in a newversion ofQDOSMSQ?

2011-01-27 Thread Ralf Reköndt
Norman Dunbar wrote: Would be better as a kind of THG% in the system. I see you beat me to it! However, that is in the existing QDOSMSQ system. A brand new one may decide to implement the JPEG Thing differently, perhaps. That's what I meant (I mostly use this THG% abbreviation...sounds

Re: [Ql-Users] What would you most like to see in a new version of QDOSMSQ?

2011-01-27 Thread Norman Dunbar
One thing I would like to see in SMSQ is the correct MC680xx vector table at the start of the OS. :-) -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-27 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 4d3de519.5000...@dunbar-it.co.uk, Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk writes Hi Norman, Of course ... :-) . just re-defining the 'genre'. Perhaps a QPUB ... would be another option? I have ebooks in the Psion format, on older small device - RiscStation. PS - Good luck with

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-27 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message AANLkTim6KHeFQGVYiOOiqS33b149p3GG7kA=+0kon...@mail.gmail.com, Plastic plasticu...@gmail.com writes On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Lee Privett lee.priv...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I didn't understand most of whats being said here, other than 'fit it all in an QL' and 'ARM', the

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-27 Thread Peter Graf
Tony Firshman wrote: One other way, for Peter, is an open source version of SMSQ. At least it _was_. Now that so much time has been spent toward a Minerva based solution with other drivers, SMSQ/E would probably not save me work anymore. Times have changed. A decade ago, an open source SMSQ/E