Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
Tony Firshman wrote, on 29/Feb/12 06:16 | Feb29: Lee Privett wrote, on 28/Feb/12 10:28 | Feb28: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Bryan Horstmannb...@newlan.org wrote: Just received this:- The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive) announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29 February 2012. Come towww.raspberrypi.org to find out what's going on. Oh yes, set my alarm clock already ... and the Farnell site, huge as it is, cannot cope. Trying in vain to get it do do *anything*! Many won't realise Farnell owns CPC, which was the main UK distributor of QL spares. Yes indeed - the site is overloaded. I managed to get to the main product page. This URL will save one L O N G step: http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/bespoke/bespoke7.jsp?ICID=I-RASP-HPBLOF-0015bespokepage=farnell/en_UK/promotions/raspberryPi.jsp A purchase of over £45 has zero carriage charge, so look for something else to buy (one more Pi?). Amazingly the product page makes not mention of price. Also only model B (the only one to buy!) is offered at the moment. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
Tony Firshman wrote, on 29/Feb/12 06:30 | Feb29: Tony Firshman wrote, on 29/Feb/12 06:16 | Feb29: Lee Privett wrote, on 28/Feb/12 10:28 | Feb28: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Bryan Horstmannb...@newlan.org wrote: Just received this:- The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive) announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29 February 2012. Come towww.raspberrypi.org to find out what's going on. Oh yes, set my alarm clock already ... and the Farnell site, huge as it is, cannot cope. Trying in vain to get it do do *anything*! Many won't realise Farnell owns CPC, which was the main UK distributor of QL spares. Yes indeed - the site is overloaded. I managed to get to the main product page. This URL will save one L O N G step: http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/bespoke/bespoke7.jsp?ICID=I-RASP-HPBLOF-0015bespokepage=farnell/en_UK/promotions/raspberryPi.jsp A purchase of over £45 has zero carriage charge, so look for something else to buy (one more Pi?). Amazingly the product page makes not mention of price. Also only model B (the only one to buy!) is offered at the moment. They have now shut down the site: --- Site unavailable Our websites are currently unavailable whilst we perform a scheduled system upgrade. Every effort has been made to minimise the impact of this event and we apologise for any inconvenience this has caused. Should you wish to place an order or speak to a sales representative please refer to the contact list below: __ Their *real* number is 01772 654455 for those with mobiles (ie expensive 08 numbers). I never actually fully use my inclusive minutes, so 01/02/03 and UK mobile calls are 'free'. Isn't it amazing that most large companies do not realise '08' numbers are a massive disincentive to call, even the 'cheap' 0845. http://saynoto0870.com is your friend of course. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
Tony Firshman wrote, on 29/Feb/12 06:38 | Feb29: snip I managed to get to the main product page. This URL will save one L O N G step: http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/bespoke/bespoke7.jsp?ICID=I-RASP-HPBLOF-0015bespokepage=farnell/en_UK/promotions/raspberryPi.jsp A purchase of over £45 has zero carriage charge, so look for something else to buy (one more Pi?). They only allow one order, so look for batteries. They are very cheap if bought in bulk! Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Nascent project: Cross-platform SuperBASIC derivative.
En/Je/On 2012-02-28 13:48, Lee Privett escribió / skribis / wrote : SpecBAS does sound like something you cough up I'm sorry, I'm not sure to understand what you mean. I didn't know that expression. I found this in thefreedictionary.com: --- Phrasal Verb: cough up Slang --- 1. To hand over or relinquish (money or another possession), often reluctantly. 2. To confess or disclose: When he saw that the police might arrest him, he coughed up the details of what he had seen. --- re·lin·quish --- 1. To retire from; give up or abandon. 2. To put aside or desist from (something practiced, professed, or intended). 3. To let go; surrender. 4. To cease holding physically; release: relinquish a grip. --- As I said, the project is not mature yet, and still hardly usable beside testing, if that's what you mean. But it's under active development and has a great potential. Its author developed BASin for years, a successful and popular IDE for Sinclar BASIC, written in Delphi for Windows. That's a guarantee for this new and more ambitious project. Marcos -- http://programandala.net ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Nascent project: Cross-platform SuperBASIC derivative.
Perhaps we could help steer the project more towards SBasic by implementing such things as channels. Has anyone here got the skills, time and motivation to do this. Our company is considering porting this to ARM (Raspberry Pi included), but we need to study the licence. If we do I'll try and make it policy to use SBasic as the programming model to use when enhancing the language. On 27/02/2012 12:38, Marcos Cruz wrote: En/Je/On 2012-02-23 10:40, Stephen Usher escribió / skribis / wrote : need for a modern equivalent to the old home computer systems and the BASIC language which came on them. On the home computer front, On the scientific front, I forgot to mention the SpecBAS project by Paul Dunn (http://specbas.co.uk). It's a BASIC interpreter based on the old ZX Spectrum's BASIC, but much improved, more powerful and multiplatform. It is still alpha but looks quite promising. I think it soon will suit the needs you mention. There are binary packages for Windows, Linux (Intel) and the Pandora's Ångström (http://openpandora.org). It's written in Free Pascal and it's open source, so it can be compiled for other platforms as well. In fact I'm considering SpecBAS as an alternative to SBASIC for a couple of game projects under development. The source code conversion would not be difficult, and the benefits would be remarkable: wider audience; easier programming of sounds and graphics; and the chance to be able to contribute to an open and evolving project. Marcos ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
Tony Firshman wrote, on 29/Feb/12 06:42 | Feb29: Tony Firshman wrote, on 29/Feb/12 06:38 | Feb29: snip I managed to get to the main product page. This URL will save one L O N G step: http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/bespoke/bespoke7.jsp?ICID=I-RASP-HPBLOF-0015bespokepage=farnell/en_UK/promotions/raspberryPi.jsp A purchase of over £45 has zero carriage charge, so look for something else to buy (one more Pi?). They only allow one order, so look for batteries. They are very cheap if bought in bulk! Their website is still down! I have ordered one by phone (01772 654455 to beat the dreaded '08') for £21.60 plus VAT. They confirmed the website issue was due to demand, and they were even struggling with their intranet, which probably uses a similar database interface. Nice headline - Raspberries crash UKs largest distributor. It will be interesting to see whether it is possible to port QDOS. As it runs Linux, I guess UQLX will be the route. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
On 28/02/12 10:15, Bryan Horstmann wrote: The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive) announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29 February 2012. Come towww.raspberrypi.org to find out what's going on. Well, the release of Raspberry Pi into the wilds went well. Interest was so great that both Farnell's and RS discovered an effective DDOS attack on their servers this morning. The tinkerers are taking over again! I've got my order in - I missed the first 100,000 even at 06:25 this AM. Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Infinite loop in Turbo Parser
On 27 Feb 2012, at 16:17, Michael Bulford wrote: I have been having a look at the Turbo Parser, and have noticed an error in the first few lines of the code. In the call to Init_Names if there are too many structs then Complain is called. Complain will RETRY, however at this stage no RETRY_HERE has been encountered, and so the only place where it can retry is at the start. And so an infinite loop is created. Each time around this loop COMPILATION ABORTED will be written to the log file. I hope you don't mind me bringing this to your attention, this is only a very minor bug – it would not happen very often. There is a RETRY_HERE when Init_Names is called. It is at the start of every program compiled by Turbo v4.11 and after. However, this would indeed lead to an infinite loop. My suggested correction is: 10250 IF NOT _quit: Set_Links : Dialogue 10254 erased (In Init_Names) 11508 RETRY_HERE 11509 IF _quit : RETurn George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
On 29/02/2012 01:11, Norman Dunbar wrote: On 28/02/12 10:15, Bryan Horstmann wrote: The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive) announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29 February 2012. Come towww.raspberrypi.org to find out what's going on. Well, the release of Raspberry Pi into the wilds went well. Interest was so great that both Farnell's and RS discovered an effective DDOS attack on their servers this morning. The tinkerers are taking over again! I've got my order in - I missed the first 100,000 even at 06:25 this AM. Cheers, Norm. I see someone has pre-ordered 10 and is offering on ebay for £95 each. I thought only one per person was allowed. Wish we could rid ourselves of these touts trying to collar the market. Bryan H ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
On 29/02/2012 07:36, Bryan Horstmann wrote: On 29/02/2012 01:11, Norman Dunbar wrote: On 28/02/12 10:15, Bryan Horstmann wrote: The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive) announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29 February 2012. Come towww.raspberrypi.org to find out what's going on. Well, the release of Raspberry Pi into the wilds went well. Interest was so great that both Farnell's and RS discovered an effective DDOS attack on their servers this morning. The tinkerers are taking over again! I've got my order in - I missed the first 100,000 even at 06:25 this AM. Cheers, Norm. I see someone has pre-ordered 10 and is offering on ebay for £95 each. I thought only one per person was allowed. Wish we could rid ourselves of these touts trying to collar the market. Bryan H ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I'm happy to wait until the market settles, and then perhaps we shall be able to buy over the counter locally at Stockport RS counter to avoid carriage. My simple need is to replace the bulky QL, and also having to keep spares just to do my little apps. I've usb hubs, wireless usb keyboard and usb floppies which do me. I just haven't the time or skills to set it up. I'm going to have to rely on help, probably from the local group or a workshop. I take it that this will be getting the right stuff on the SD card. Bryan H UK ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
Unfortunately any account with CPC-Farnell is not recognised with 'Farnell', they are treated as two separate companies which means registering with Farnell separately if you wish to purchase. they had sold out of Raspi when I managed to get through by phone :( On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk wrote: Lee Privett wrote, on 28/Feb/12 10:28 | Feb28: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Bryan Horstmannb...@newlan.org wrote: Just received this:- The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive) announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29 February 2012. Come towww.raspberrypi.org to find out what's going on. Oh yes, set my alarm clock already ... and the Farnell site, huge as it is, cannot cope. Trying in vain to get it do do *anything*! Many won't realise Farnell owns CPC, which was the main UK distributor of QL spares. Tony Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG __**_ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/**smsqe.htmhttp://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
Bryan, the eBay person was a scam and has been shut down. He or she never had any to sell and the image was a pre-production alpha model. Sent from my HTC ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] RaspberryPi
Lee Privett wrote, on 29/Feb/12 20:25 | Feb29: Unfortunately any account with CPC-Farnell is not recognised with 'Farnell', they are treated as two separate companies which means registering with Farnell separately if you wish to purchase. they had sold out of Raspi when I managed to get through by phone :( When I first got the cpc-farnell Pi page it had a link to Add to basket but it crashed soon afterwards. I rang them soon after they opened for telephone sales, and they accepted my order with credit card. The website was down until well after midday. When the site recovered, the *same* cpc-farnell page only had a form to express interest. I am pretty sure there is effectively only *one* contact point, and the appearance of the form was simply that their initial stock, probably 5000 (ie 50% of the initial run), was sold out. The 'interest' form was on RS very very early, so I suspect they sold out quickly due to the Farnell web issue. I bet Farnell will invest in better IT systems soon! Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
