[Ql-Users] Q60 power supply

2007-12-03 Thread Christopher Cave
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My Q60 is now working as it ought. I appeared to have two problems. 
Firstly, yes Tony there was a mechanical on-off switch on the incoming 
mains but this had become unreliable. Secondly, I found an interesting 
note on using AT power supplies on model railway circuits which 
suggested a minimum current drain not far short of 1 amp was required 
else the thing shut down automatically (something to do with 
non-linearity at low outputs). There is now a sturdier switch taken off 
an old AST chassis and a resistor between a 5v line and ground.

Anyway, thanks to all.

Christopher Cave

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Re: [Ql-Users] Q60 power supply

2007-12-02 Thread Tony Firshman
Christopher Cave wrote:
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> I am not sure Tony that you are thinking of an old-fashioned AT power 
> supply. The latter have 2 six pin plugs - i.e. no pins 14&15. They also 
> do not use a green wire. The only pin neither ground nor a given voltage 
> is the P(ower) G(ood) pin which is orange - but since this stabilises at 
> +5 VDC, I don't think that shorting to ground would be quite the thing 
> or am I wrong here?
  By 'latter have' I assume you really meant 'this has' (8-)#
Ahah I missed that - you didn't actually say AT in your first msg but 
P5/6 was a clue.

Two types of supply:

1) Old AT   That has a mechanical on/off switch so should nothing 
special.  Why aren't you simply using the built in switch?  All the ones 
I have ever used do not need a motherboard connected.   I have plenty of 
such supplies, which I could send for postage only if you fail to get 
yours going.

2) New ATX and similar with 'soft' switch.  This you connect the green 
cable (p14) to any ground, but p15 next door (black) is the best candidate.

Tony

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Re: [Ql-Users] Q60 power supply

2007-12-02 Thread David Tubbs
At 11:12 02/12/2007 +, you wrote:
>In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I am not sure Tony that you are thinking of an old-fashioned AT power
>supply. The latter have 2 six pin plugs - i.e. no pins 14&15. They also
>do not use a green wire. The only pin neither ground nor a given voltage
>is the P(ower) G(ood) pin which is orange - but since this stabilises at
>+5 VDC, I don't think that shorting to ground would be quite the thing
>or am I wrong here?
>Christopher Cave

I have no knowledge of what is required by the Qx0 but I am sure you have 
the full range from the AT pack.

I am not sure what is meant by "shorting to ground", tho' it could be the 
PowerGood needs to be taken low.

I remember that it is necessary to have a sufficient load on the 12v supply 
or they do not work, but an HDD should suffice. Or a 12v auto bulb if needed.

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[Ql-Users] Q60 power supply

2007-12-02 Thread Christopher Cave
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I am not sure Tony that you are thinking of an old-fashioned AT power 
supply. The latter have 2 six pin plugs - i.e. no pins 14&15. They also 
do not use a green wire. The only pin neither ground nor a given voltage 
is the P(ower) G(ood) pin which is orange - but since this stabilises at 
+5 VDC, I don't think that shorting to ground would be quite the thing 
or am I wrong here?
Christopher Cave

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*From:* Tony Firshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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*Date:* Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:25:02 +

Christopher Cave wrote:
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> Thanks Tony but what quite do you mean by describing the 'green' wire as 
> relevant in this context. Am I missing something else here?

You are.  The pin you short to black ground (15) is coloured green (pin 
14).

What wire were you going to short to ground then?  Not the red I hope (8-)#

Tony

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Re: [Ql-Users] Q60 power supply

2007-12-01 Thread Tony Firshman
Christopher Cave wrote:
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> Thanks Tony but what quite do you mean by describing the 'green' wire as 
> relevant in this context. Am I missing something else here?

You are.  The pin you short to black ground (15) is coloured green (pin 14).

What wire were you going to short to ground then?  Not the red I hope (8-)#

Tony

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[Ql-Users] Q60 power supply

2007-11-30 Thread Christopher Cave
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Thanks Tony but what quite do you mean by describing the 'green' wire as 
relevant in this context. Am I missing something else here?

Christopher Cave

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*Date:* Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:54:54 +

Christopher Cave wrote:
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> Thanks David for the info. All I need to do now is work out which ground 
> to use.
They are *all* the same - any black wire.  There is one right next to the
relevant wire (green I believe).

Tony


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Re: [Ql-Users] Q60 power supply

2007-11-30 Thread Tony Firshman
Christopher Cave wrote:
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> Thanks David for the info. All I need to do now is work out which ground 
> to use.
They are *all* the same - any black wire.  There is one right next to the
relevant wire (green I believe).

Tony


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[Ql-Users] Q60 power supply

2007-11-30 Thread Christopher Cave
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Thanks David for the info. All I need to do now is work out which ground 
to use.

Christopher Cave

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Re: [Ql-Users] Q60 power supply

2007-11-30 Thread David Tubbs
At 18:06 30/11/2007 +, you wrote:
>When I assembled my Q60, I just used a PC case that came to hand. The
>motherboard power on this is delivered by two connectors labelled P8 &
>P9. To get the power supply to switch on in the absence of a M'board
>using these plugs I had to link one of their lines to a ground on one of
>the other 4-pin plugs. This has worked for a year or so but now the link
>has come adrift from P8/P9 and I can't remember where it should go. Can
>anyone help please?
>
>Christopher Cave

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[Ql-Users] Q60 power supply

2007-11-30 Thread Christopher Cave
When I assembled my Q60, I just used a PC case that came to hand. The 
motherboard power on this is delivered by two connectors labelled P8 & 
P9. To get the power supply to switch on in the absence of a M'board 
using these plugs I had to link one of their lines to a ground on one of 
the other 4-pin plugs. This has worked for a year or so but now the link 
has come adrift from P8/P9 and I can't remember where it should go. Can 
anyone help please?

Christopher Cave

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