Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
I'm replying to all, Dilwyn, I note that ql-us...@q-v-d.com & ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com are in the recipient's. Sorry. I didn't break your Web site though! Didn't you? ;-) Ah well, it's back now anyway... nice quick personal service on a Sunday from my ISP (a certain well known former QL trader). Dilwyn - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11424 - Release Date: 01/17/16 ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
On 17 January 2016 17:09:30 GMT+00:00, Dilwyn Jones wrote: >Just to let you know Norman that some of us are getting duplicates of >some >of your emails. > >Also, I've just been told that my own QL website seems to be down at >the >moment - have advised my ISP. > >Dilwyn > >-Original Message- >From: Norman Dunbar >Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 2:48 PM >To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com ; ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com >Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10 > >Hi Tim, > >On 16/01/16 20:03, Timothy Swenson wrote: >> The only major problem I have is that I can't print to a printer >> attached to a Windows system. > >just out of interest, is your printer USB attached or network? I have a >very old HP Photosmart 2610 all in one and it can be USB or network >attached, so it's on the network. All our laptops, our desktop and our >tablets and phones (Android = Linux) are happy to print, fax, scan >to/from it. > >I think, but don;t quote me, you need to make sure that the printer is >shared in Windows if it's USB attached, in order to use it from Linux, >plus just possibly, you need to have your Linux computer set up as a >SAMBA client to the Windows Samba server in order to print. > >This might help: >http://www.printmanager.com/cms.php?aid=82&fullpage=1&support=8 > > >Cheers, >Norm. > >-- >Norman Dunbar >Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd > >Registered address: >27a Lidget Hill >Pudsey >West Yorkshire >United Kingdom >LS28 7LG > >Company Number: 05132767 >___ >QL-Users Mailing List > > >- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11420 - Release Date: >01/17/16 > > > >- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11420 - Release Date: >01/17/16 > >___ >QL-Users Mailing List I'm replying to all, Dilwyn, I note that ql-us...@q-v-d.com & ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com are in the recipient's. Sorry. I didn't break your Web site though! Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity and any "auto corrections" that are just wrong! ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
A little while back, I realised that the occasional ql-users mail was finding its way into my spam folder, so I took appropriate measures and now I don't seem to lose any, except a small percentage that the EE filtering knocks out which I can't control except possibly by speaking to their dreaded call centre, maybe. Hmm, reminds me, EE are about to be gobbled up by BT aren't they? Maybe they'll change their name to BTee now ;-) Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Tobias Fröschle Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 5:23 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10 Dilwyn, The duplicates you get are the ones that miss me, apparently. The list seems to be eating up somewhat like 40% of the messages since some months Tobias Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android http://www.aqua-mail.com Am 17. Januar 2016 18:13:41 schrieb "Dilwyn Jones" : Just to let you know Norman that some of us are getting duplicates of some of your emails. Also, I've just been told that my own QL website seems to be down at the moment - have advised my ISP. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Norman Dunbar Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 2:48 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com ; ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10 Hi Tim, On 16/01/16 20:03, Timothy Swenson wrote: The only major problem I have is that I can't print to a printer attached to a Windows system. just out of interest, is your printer USB attached or network? I have a very old HP Photosmart 2610 all in one and it can be USB or network attached, so it's on the network. All our laptops, our desktop and our tablets and phones (Android = Linux) are happy to print, fax, scan to/from it. I think, but don;t quote me, you need to make sure that the printer is shared in Windows if it's USB attached, in order to use it from Linux, plus just possibly, you need to have your Linux computer set up as a SAMBA client to the Windows Samba server in order to print. This might help: http://www.printmanager.com/cms.php?aid=82&fullpage=1&support=8 Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: 27a Lidget Hill Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7LG Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11420 - Release Date: 01/17/16 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11420 - Release Date: 01/17/16 ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11420 - Release Date: 01/17/16 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11420 - Release Date: 01/17/16 ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
Dilwyn, The duplicates you get are the ones that miss me, apparently. The list seems to be eating up somewhat like 40% of the messages since some months Tobias Gesendet mit AquaMail für Android http://www.aqua-mail.com Am 17. Januar 2016 18:13:41 schrieb "Dilwyn Jones" : Just to let you know Norman that some of us are getting duplicates of some of your emails. Also, I've just been told that my own QL website seems to be down at the moment - have advised my ISP. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Norman Dunbar Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 2:48 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com ; ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10 Hi Tim, On 16/01/16 20:03, Timothy Swenson wrote: The only major problem I have is that I can't print to a printer attached to a Windows system. just out of interest, is your printer USB attached or network? I have a very old HP Photosmart 2610 all in one and it can be USB or network attached, so it's on the network. All our laptops, our desktop and our tablets and phones (Android = Linux) are happy to print, fax, scan to/from it. I think, but don;t quote me, you need to make sure that the printer is shared in Windows if it's USB attached, in order to use it from Linux, plus just possibly, you need to have your Linux computer set up as a SAMBA client to the Windows Samba server in order to print. This might help: http://www.printmanager.com/cms.php?aid=82&fullpage=1&support=8 Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: 27a Lidget Hill Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7LG Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11420 - Release Date: 01/17/16 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11420 - Release Date: 01/17/16 ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
Just to let you know Norman that some of us are getting duplicates of some of your emails. Also, I've just been told that my own QL website seems to be down at the moment - have advised my ISP. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Norman Dunbar Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 2:48 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com ; ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10 Hi Tim, On 16/01/16 20:03, Timothy Swenson wrote: The only major problem I have is that I can't print to a printer attached to a Windows system. just out of interest, is your printer USB attached or network? I have a very old HP Photosmart 2610 all in one and it can be USB or network attached, so it's on the network. All our laptops, our desktop and our tablets and phones (Android = Linux) are happy to print, fax, scan to/from it. I think, but don;t quote me, you need to make sure that the printer is shared in Windows if it's USB attached, in order to use it from Linux, plus just possibly, you need to have your Linux computer set up as a SAMBA client to the Windows Samba server in order to print. This might help: http://www.printmanager.com/cms.php?aid=82&fullpage=1&support=8 Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: 27a Lidget Hill Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7LG Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11420 - Release Date: 01/17/16 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11420 - Release Date: 01/17/16 ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
On 17/01/16 11:54, pjwitte wrote: Of course the perfect scenario is not possible today (viz dream 1), but it might be possible to come pretty close. Perhaps I should think this through and do some tests rather than throw it all out here? But just out of interest what dyall think? A. A base unit sporting a widely supported Linux distro. Using a VM box with W2k for running some QL/SMSQ emulator. A second VM running Linux or some Windoze configured as unit 2, and a third VM for unit 3. Sounds pretty much like this laptop I'm using now. It's got Linux Mint 17.3 64 bit as the host OS, 8GB RAM and a Core 2 processor of some kind. It was the top of the range when I bought it, but about a week after I did so, the i3, i5 and i7 came out. Typical! I run everything in Linux - email, browsing, Office stuff, PCB design, document processing (for the Assembly Mailing List etc), QPC, programming, Copying my DVDs to the network drive, ripping my CDs for my music player (Astell & Kern AK100) and so on. At least, it does when I have time! I also have about 6 different VirtualBox Guest VMs running assorted flavours of Linux with Oracle 11gR2 installed on each - for my various work needs - and one, pretty much unused Windows 7 VM, for the extremely odd occasion when I have to test a new version of QStripper, or similar. I think I have an old 32 bit XP VM as well, I'll have to check! I definitely need a bigger hard drive though, I only have 500Gb and it's pretty much nearly all gone. Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: 27a Lidget Hill Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7LG Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
Hi Tim, On 16/01/16 20:03, Timothy Swenson wrote: The only major problem I have is that I can't print to a printer attached to a Windows system. just out of interest, is your printer USB attached or network? I have a very old HP Photosmart 2610 all in one and it can be USB or network attached, so it's on the network. All our laptops, our desktop and our tablets and phones (Android = Linux) are happy to print, fax, scan to/from it. I think, but don;t quote me, you need to make sure that the printer is shared in Windows if it's USB attached, in order to use it from Linux, plus just possibly, you need to have your Linux computer set up as a SAMBA client to the Windows Samba server in order to print. This might help: http://www.printmanager.com/cms.php?aid=82&fullpage=1&support=8 Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: 27a Lidget Hill Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7LG Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
Thanks for the info, Norman. I know those of us engaging in a topic some on this list deem un-QL, risk a public spanking at the next "QL is xx". However, as long as the QL is at the heart of the discussion, I believe we may just wriggle out of chastisement if not censure.. On 16/01/2016 17:24, Norman Dunbar wrote: <> > Yo! Norman. Does QPC2 still work under current versions of Wine? Yes, pretty much perfectly. I have no problems. Accessing the Floppy Disc hardware obviously doesn't work though - as far as I remember Marcel telling me, a long time back, it uses direct sector access and that's to the inbuilt hardware of a Windows box as opposed to an emulator's USB floppy. (Wine Is Not an Emulator!) Still, I believe I can use floppy images now at version 4. I haven't tried that yet though. Well, thas something.. > My only valid Linux installation ATM is on RasPi - too slow to be worth testing. It won't work. Wine is x86/amd-64 only. The Pi is ARM, so WINE isn't even available in the repositories. But of course! Duh! me. Almost every year I reconsider whether its worth emigrating to Linux, but its just such a hassel. Really? I moved over to "The Dark Side" way back in 2001 just after Simon's article in Linux Format which mentioned my Web Site at the time. Anyone wishing to switch simply has to pick up a copy of the latest Linux Format (the cover DVD has Mint 17.3 (32 and 64 bit versions) and OpenSuse Leap (64 bit only) on it) and a large section inside on migrating simply from Windows to Linux Mint 17.3 - which is what I use for business and pleasure. You'll be surprised at how simple it can be to switch. Other Windows migrants like "Mageia" but I haven't tried it. Ever since RedHat V1.00, every now and again I install, and play with, some Linux distro on a spare machine, or as dual boot with M$W, or as now: In a VM. Hell! even my phone sports Ubuntu! And I still hate Linux! I suppose it has something to do with the fact that Linux is the illegitimate child of Unix, that grotesque, bloated discharge of evil IBM, a corporation we all loved to hate back in the day. Sticking a Disneyesque front-end on to those Byzantian innards still does not make for the efficient, safe and elegant - "orthogonal" - OS humanity really, really deserves. IMHO. While M$W is not much better it has the advantage of being mainstream! which may be a bit of a relief for many of us who have been paddling against the PC tide for many years. <> I think that Linux is vastly more secure than Windows. Security is built in, not bolted on after the fact. Does Windows still come with an administrator user which has no password? It did at XP and that little fact was buried on page 16 of a small booklet full of adverts and not much else when I got my first XP laptop. Most of the security concerns of the last century were taken care of by the NT re-write. By the time of XP, MSDOS had completely dissappeared from mainstream M$W distros. The security issues of today are built in to our "apps" and the way we use them - a much more terrifying threat! I cant imagine Linux users are any less exposed to those than users of any other OS out there. Yes, there is lots to hate in any OS, I know Mac users who whine about this and that never working, updates that break things and those damned U2 albums that appear every 5 minutes like a virus! I know Linux users who whine about other stuff. I have been known to shout at QDOS myself from time to time! :-) Cheers, Norm. I guess what Im looking for is a machine - in a single, energy-efficient unit - that does three separate things: 1) Run my "QL" - preferably on a bare metal, min 1GHz, MC68-compatible CPU and capabilities comparable to QPC2 and SMSQmulator 2) An all-other-modern-PC-worker-unit for word processing, art work, music, etc, that has no business whatsoever being online. 3) An online unit for browsing, email, getting updates, etc 1 & 2 can read and write to partitions on 3, but 3 has no access at all to 1 & 2 Of course the perfect scenario is not possible today (viz dream 1), but it might be possible to come pretty close. Perhaps I should think this through and do some tests rather than throw it all out here? But just out of interest what dyall think? A. A base unit sporting a widely supported Linux distro. Using a VM box with W2k for running some QL/SMSQ emulator. A second VM running Linux or some Windoze configured as unit 2, and a third VM for unit 3. B. A base unit runing (eg) W7, but otherwise configured as A. above C. Something else.. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
Evening Dilwyn, Ah yes, I do recall something about your past problems with Windows! I wasn't aware you had Packard Bell kit though, Curry's "own brand" stuff, or junk as we IT professionals know it. I had one of those briefly some years back. Took it back to PC World as unfit for purpose and got a full refund. I had a panicked call for help from my brother up in Elgin, back home, as his HP laptop had been upgraded to Windows 10 and now refused to start. He'd managed to brick it! As he didn't have any rescue disc or originals, he was basically "seduced"! That's the joy of having a recovery partition, when the disc is wiped, it's wiped! He ended up buying new laptop which had windows 10 pretty loaded, and when I next get up to Elgin I'll be recycling the HP with Linux Mint! Good luck with your kit! Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List
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Hi Tim, > Instead of Linux Mint, I went with Lubuntu (Ubuntu light). I first > installed Linux on an older Lenovo with 512MB of memory. Linux Mint > would hardly start, but Lubuntu worked great. I borrowed my wife's old Dell Inspiring laptop and put Mint 17 32 bit on it. With Cinnamon desktop it was quite slow, so I switched over to LXDE and it runs like a dream now. I mainly use it for PCB design using Kicad and/or Fritzing. That's one laptop nicely recycled! Plus it boots up in a couple of minutes whereas XP eventually needed bout 10 minutes to boot. That used to drive her mad. Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
On 01/16/2016 09:25 AM, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Careful, Norman, you might just tempt me to Linux at this rate. Which would not be that bad to do. I've been running exclusively Linux at home for about 3 years. The only major problem I have is that I can't print to a printer attached to a Windows system. Instead of Linux Mint, I went with Lubuntu (Ubuntu light). I first installed Linux on an older Lenovo with 512MB of memory. Linux Mint would hardly start, but Lubuntu worked great. SMSQmulator works fine under Linux. Q-emulator and QPC2 work fine under Wine. I even use EightyOne (ZX81) under Wine. There is a native ZX81 and Spectrum emulator ZesarUX. SZ81 is a native ZX81 emulator. Pasmo is a Z80 ASM cross compiler. Z88dk is a Z80 C cross compiler. I can really do all my Sinclair programming on Linux. I'd suggest finding a spare system, install a distribution of Linux and just experiment with it. Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
That makes me feel a lot better...I think :o) The third machine was a Dell laptop, fairly old, purchased second hand, but supposedly capable of Win10 upgrade. After I sent the first email, I remembered it was the one I sold late last year. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Graeme Gregory Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 6:54 PM To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10 On Sat, 16 Jan 2016, at 06:25 PM, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Packard Bell (desktop), Zoostorm (netbook), This unfortunately explains your failure :-( Friends don't let friends buy either of these manufacturers :-( G ___ QL-Users Mailing List - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11416 - Release Date: 01/16/16 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11416 - Release Date: 01/16/16 ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016, at 06:25 PM, Dilwyn Jones wrote: > Packard Bell (desktop), Zoostorm (netbook), This unfortunately explains your failure :-( Friends don't let friends buy either of these manufacturers :-( G ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
Packard Bell (desktop), Zoostorm (netbook), another machine consigned to the attic due to lack of space down here, whose brand I can't remember off hand. Plus an Intel Compute Stick supplied by eBuyer in December with Win10 32-bit preinstalled, but died during the first Windows update and has just been replaced as faulty. It's a similar spec to the netbook and shares the Aurora's monitor nicely since that has an otherwise unused HDMI connector. If I can get it working, it'll make me a second PC good enough for basic web browsing, streaming maybe, and of course QL emulation. My son's laptop upgraded to Win10 OK with only a graphics driver issue, solved with a simple update to the driver, he has had massive problems with a self-build desktop PC of his but as he had more time on his hands than I do - he's persisted and tackled the issues one by one until the machine is now sort-of working even though he can be heard threatening to throw it out of the window almost daily, weeks after he first started updating. His main issues seem to revolve around connecting to the internet after the update and the machine going into constant restart loops after each Windows 10 update. We've also had problems like Start menus disappearing and software being uninstalled or disabled after updates. Basically, we found we were having to waste so much time fixing stupid issues there was little time left for actual computing! Thankfully, where Windows 10 works, QL emulation seems to have carried on working just fine, which is the positive part of the saga. That seems to be reflected in user comments in magazines and online forums, that where Windows 10 works, people love it, but far too many people seem to find it doesn't work on updated systems and so go back to Windows 7. Would be interesting to find stats on what percentage of updaters rolled back to Windows 7 or 8. Sadly, these days, our QLing is surprisingly dependent on other operating systems. Dilwyn Who made your machines out of interest? Graeme ___ QL-Users Mailing List - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11412 - Release Date: 01/16/16 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11416 - Release Date: 01/16/16 ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016, at 05:25 PM, Dilwyn Jones wrote: > > Yes, there is lots to hate in any OS, I know Mac users who whine about > > this and that never working, updates that break things and those damned U2 > > albums that appear every 5 minutes like a virus! I know Linux users who > > whine about other stuff. I have been known to shout at QDOS myself from > > time to time! > > > > :-) > Careful, Norman, you might just tempt me to Linux at this rate. > > You know the damage I've done to Windows... you wouldn't want to inflict > me > on the Linux community would you :o) > > I've tried upgrading 3 separate Windows 7 machines to Windows 10 now. In > all > cases, despite passing the compatibility tests, none would work after the > upgrade, and in each case the rollback to Windows 7 failed too, in each > case > necessitating a full reformat and reinstallation of Windows 7. After > reinstalling Windows 7 on one of them, I tried the update again thinking > that as it was a clean machine it should work. Oh no it didn't. > > No wonder Windows 10 upgrade is "free" - nobody in their right minds > would > buy it as an upgrade. > And yet I am now upto machine 7 upgraded without an issue. Who made your machines out of interest? Graeme ___ QL-Users Mailing List
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Yes, there is lots to hate in any OS, I know Mac users who whine about this and that never working, updates that break things and those damned U2 albums that appear every 5 minutes like a virus! I know Linux users who whine about other stuff. I have been known to shout at QDOS myself from time to time! :-) Careful, Norman, you might just tempt me to Linux at this rate. You know the damage I've done to Windows... you wouldn't want to inflict me on the Linux community would you :o) I've tried upgrading 3 separate Windows 7 machines to Windows 10 now. In all cases, despite passing the compatibility tests, none would work after the upgrade, and in each case the rollback to Windows 7 failed too, in each case necessitating a full reformat and reinstallation of Windows 7. After reinstalling Windows 7 on one of them, I tried the update again thinking that as it was a clean machine it should work. Oh no it didn't. No wonder Windows 10 upgrade is "free" - nobody in their right minds would buy it as an upgrade. Dilwyn - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11412 - Release Date: 01/16/16 ___ QL-Users Mailing List
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I was sure I'd replied to this email a while back, but now I don;t see it. Here goes again! > Yo! Norman. Does QPC2 still work under current versions of Wine? Yes, pretty much perfectly. I have no problems. Accessing the Floppy Disc hardware obviously doesn't work though - as far as I remember Marcel telling me, a long time back, it uses direct sector access and that's to the inbuilt hardware of a Windows box as opposed to an emulator's USB floppy. (Wine Is Not an Emulator!) Still, I believe I can use floppy images now at version 4. I haven't tried that yet though. > My only valid Linux installation ATM is on RasPi - too slow to be worth testing. It won't work. Wine is x86/amd-64 only. The Pi is ARM, so WINE isn't even available in the repositories. Almost every year I reconsider whether its worth emigrating to Linux, but its just such a hassel. Really? I moved over to "The Dark Side" way back in 2001 just after Simon's article in Linux Format which mentioned my Web Site at the time. Anyone wishing to switch simply has to pick up a copy of the latest Linux Format (the cover DVD has Mint 17.3 (32 and 64 bit versions) and OpenSuse Leap (64 bit only) on it) and a large section inside on migrating simply from Windows to Linux Mint 17.3 - which is what I use for business and pleasure. You'll be surprised at how simple it can be to switch. Other Windows migrants like "Mageia" but I haven't tried it. A colleague at work had to sort out his ageing parents recently. Their XP system had a hard disc failure and they had lost/binned/destroyed the original CD - assuming it actually had one, it may have been a recovery partition on the now defunct hard drive. Anyway, they were "dyed in the wool XP users, couldn't use anything else, didn't like change etc" - what could he do? Windows 7 cost too much, Windows 8 would have baffled the aged ones, so I suggested Linux Mint 17 with the Cinnamon Desktop. He was a bit dubious, but did it anyway. He also told them it was an upgrade to Windows. They loved it! And, even better, have not had to call him out for any problems. However, each to their own. However, most Linux distos (aka distributions) nowadays come with a "live DVD" where you simply insert the DVD and reboot. As long as the computer boots from the DVD, you get a "try before you (don't) buy" system that will not touch the hard disc nor will it write anything over your Windows stuff. Oh, and you can read your Windows files just fine too. If you decide to install, they are very careful to make sure that the allow you to use your Windows system by giving you the option on the boot menu, unlike Windows which assumes it is the only OS, and wipes the ability to boot into Linux. And tho different, to me there seems to be as much to hate in both systems. (Apple can hardly be considered an option for grownups and has silly hardware restrictions.) Makes me wonder whether I might outlive QDOS/SMSQ I think that Linux is vastly more secure than Windows. Security is built in, not bolted on after the fact. Does Windows still come with an administrator user which has no password? It did at XP and that little fact was buried on page 16 of a small booklet full of adverts and not much else when I got my first XP laptop. Yes, there is lots to hate in any OS, I know Mac users who whine about this and that never working, updates that break things and those damned U2 albums that appear every 5 minutes like a virus! I know Linux users who whine about other stuff. I have been known to shout at QDOS myself from time to time! :-) Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: 27a Lidget Hill Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7LG Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List
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Hi, I use QPC2, QPC1 (via DOSBOX), Qemulator and under Wine and SMSQmulator under Java, on Linux. I dumped Windows years ago, even Autocad works under Wine, though I am struggling with Solidworks 2014, but I told there solution around this. I do not think Windows is a viable solution now, even Unity 3D has been released for Linux, this shows how much the Operating System has come on. But... trying to keep on topic, as long as QL emulation works under Wine or Java then I use Linux. I also like the Open Source idea as well. Regards, Derek On 05/01/16 02:15, Timothy Swenson wrote: On 01/04/2016 08:35 AM, pjwitte wrote: Almost every year I reconsider whether its worth emigrating to Linux, but its just such a hassel I'm using Lubuntu 14.X and my migration from Windows XP was quite smooth. At the time I was using all Open Source tools that are also cross platform: Firefox for web browser Open Office for Word processor, spreadsheet Thunderbird for e-mail Scribus for DTP DOSbox for old DOS programs SMSQMulator for QL emulation The things that I had to get were: Xfburn for burning CD's Asunder for CD ripping Handbrake for DVD ripping All the software I installed from scratch. For Thunderbird, I moved the large mailbox file from one node to another and I had my config and old e-mails. I'm using both Qemualtor and QPC2 under Wine. I don't use QPC2 that much, but it works when I use it. I used Lubuntu because I like LXDE desktop environment. Other distributions might have it too. Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
On 01/04/2016 08:35 AM, pjwitte wrote: Almost every year I reconsider whether its worth emigrating to Linux, but its just such a hassel I'm using Lubuntu 14.X and my migration from Windows XP was quite smooth. At the time I was using all Open Source tools that are also cross platform: Firefox for web browser Open Office for Word processor, spreadsheet Thunderbird for e-mail Scribus for DTP DOSbox for old DOS programs SMSQMulator for QL emulation The things that I had to get were: Xfburn for burning CD's Asunder for CD ripping Handbrake for DVD ripping All the software I installed from scratch. For Thunderbird, I moved the large mailbox file from one node to another and I had my config and old e-mails. I'm using both Qemualtor and QPC2 under Wine. I don't use QPC2 that much, but it works when I use it. I used Lubuntu because I like LXDE desktop environment. Other distributions might have it too. Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
On 02/01/2016 18:21, Norman Dunbar wrote: > On 2 January 2016 15:46:55 GMT+00:00, pjwitte wrote: > > Traditional seasons' greatings implied.. > > Recently Windoze 10 has started messing with QPC2: When I put my > machine to sleep with QPC2 in fullscreen mode in the background it > wakes up with QPC2 in a catatonic state: No display, no response. > > Anyone suffering the same? Any known remedies? > > Per > -- > > QL-Users Mailing List > > > Many versions of SUSE ago, I used to get the same thing with QPC. I > put it down to running it under WINE and just made sure it never slept. > I've not had it for ages with SUSE or Linux Mint. > > Not much help I'm afraid. Sorry. > > Implied greetings to you too. 😃 > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity > and any "auto corrections" that are just wrong! Yo! Norman. Does QPC2 still work under current versions of Wine? My only valid Linux installation ATM is on RasPi - too slow to be worth testing. Almost every year I reconsider whether its worth emigrating to Linux, but its just such a hassel. And tho different, to me there seems to be as much to hate in both systems. (Apple can hardly be considered an option for grownups and has silly hardware restrictions.) Makes me wonder whether I might outlive QDOS/SMSQ Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
On 03/01/2016 14:19, Bob Spelten wrote: Op Sat, 02 Jan 2016 16:46:55 +0100 schreef pjwitte : Traditional seasons' greatings implied.. Recently Windoze 10 has started messing with QPC2: When I put my machine to sleep with QPC2 in fullscreen mode in the background it wakes up with QPC2 in a catatonic state: No display, no response. Anyone suffering the same? Any known remedies? Per I have had the same problem with W$7 but not recently. Having QPC2 open full screen (windowed) could have been a factor. I now always buttonise QPC2 before letting W$ fall asleep or slumber, which is also more energy efficient. I also did find that having the keyboard set to SMSQ/E in the config screen doesn't agree well with sleep mode. When W$ is then woken the change is that the QPC2 keys produce rubbish, then the only solution is to kill QPC2. When set to WINDOWS keys this is not the case. I have no experience with W$10, yet. Bob Thanks Bob. The thing is that everything worked fine until it suddenly stopped working (consistently) for a period of a few weeks. It hasnt happened again since the day I posted to this list so perhaps you guys have been praying/meditating very hard, bombarding my system with positive vibes ;) in which case my thanks are implied to the degree appropriate in each instance.. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
Op Sat, 02 Jan 2016 16:46:55 +0100 schreef pjwitte : Traditional seasons' greatings implied.. Recently Windoze 10 has started messing with QPC2: When I put my machine to sleep with QPC2 in fullscreen mode in the background it wakes up with QPC2 in a catatonic state: No display, no response. Anyone suffering the same? Any known remedies? Per I have had the same problem with W$7 but not recently. Having QPC2 open full screen (windowed) could have been a factor. I now always buttonise QPC2 before letting W$ fall asleep or slumber, which is also more energy efficient. I also did find that having the keyboard set to SMSQ/E in the config screen doesn't agree well with sleep mode. When W$ is then woken the change is that the QPC2 keys produce rubbish, then the only solution is to kill QPC2. When set to WINDOWS keys this is not the case. I have no experience with W$10, yet. Bob -- The BSJR QL software site at: http://members.upc.nl/b.spelten/ql/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
On 2 January 2016 15:46:55 GMT+00:00, pjwitte wrote: >Traditional seasons' greatings implied.. > >Recently Windoze 10 has started messing with QPC2: When I put my >machine to sleep with QPC2 in fullscreen mode in the background it >wakes up with QPC2 in a catatonic state: No display, no response. > >Anyone suffering the same? Any known remedies? > >Per >___ >QL-Users Mailing List Many versions of SUSE ago, I used to get the same thing with QPC. I put it down to running it under WINE and just made sure it never slept. I've not had it for ages with SUSE or Linux Mint. Not much help I'm afraid. Sorry. Implied greetings to you too. 😃 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity and any "auto corrections" that are just wrong! ___ QL-Users Mailing List
[Ql-Users] QPC2 <> W10
Traditional seasons' greatings implied.. Recently Windoze 10 has started messing with QPC2: When I put my machine to sleep with QPC2 in fullscreen mode in the background it wakes up with QPC2 in a catatonic state: No display, no response. Anyone suffering the same? Any known remedies? Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List