Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
Hi Tony please send me Mplane asap thank you Arnold From: Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Friday, 13 November, 2009 23:24:04 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote, On 13/11/09 19:28: Hi, I believe my Qubide chips are not working as they should. At first I copied my master floppy disk to improve matters and as things didn't improve I assumed my master disk was faulty; but I now realize my master floppy is ok. Its the chips. Where can I get replacement chips? Have you cleaned the chips legs? You cannot replace them randomly and hope for the best. If you need qubide checked out, I would recommend sending it to someone who has a working qubide. Rich, can you help? I guess you didn't see see my previous email? Are you using Qplane? If so then I found that was unreliable with Qubide. I had to keep Qubide nearest the QL, or even hang SGC on the through connector. All has been fine (for a decade now) with Mplane. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
I do not know whether I have Qplane. It was assembled by Qubbesoft in 2003. The SGC was plugged into Qubide which was plugged into the backplane. I have separated them and and tried them in different positions. As it is now, when I switch on with a floppy disk in flp1_, it goes through the first initionalising stage ignoring the floppy and the F1/F2 selction comes up on the screen. I press F1 and it fires up the floppy wich is a Qpac2 floppy. I enter load win1_ boot and I can run the boot file from the line after the SMSQ installation and everythig seems to be working. I did try Aurorql in place of SMSQ but it was the same it stops at the first dot I have discovered a reason why my display occasionally used to break up and a sharp tap on the case used to cure it, and it seems to be the back plane connection Arnold From: Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Friday, 13 November, 2009 23:24:04 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote, On 13/11/09 19:28: Hi, I believe my Qubide chips are not working as they should. At first I copied my master floppy disk to improve matters and as things didn't improve I assumed my master disk was faulty; but I now realize my master floppy is ok. Its the chips. Where can I get replacement chips? Have you cleaned the chips legs? You cannot replace them randomly and hope for the best. If you need qubide checked out, I would recommend sending it to someone who has a working qubide. Rich, can you help? I guess you didn't see see my previous email? Are you using Qplane? If so then I found that was unreliable with Qubide. I had to keep Qubide nearest the QL, or even hang SGC on the through connector. All has been fine (for a decade now) with Mplane. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote, On 14/11/09 11:59: I do not know whether I have Qplane. It was assembled by Qubbesoft in 2003. The you definitely have Qplane The SGC was plugged into Qubide which was plugged into the backplane. I have separated them and and tried them in different positions. As it is now, when I switch on with a floppy disk in flp1_, it goes through the first initionalising stage ignoring the floppy and the F1/F2 selction comes up on the screen. I press F1 and it fires up the floppy wich is a Qpac2 floppy. I enter load win1_ boot and I can run the boot file from the line after the SMSQ installation and everythig seems to be working. I did try Aurorql in place of SMSQ but it was the same it stops at the first dot I have discovered a reason why my display occasionally used to break up and a sharp tap on the case used to cure it, and it seems to be the back plane connection Ah. Maybe you haven't got the SMSQ line as something like: IF ver$HBA:code to run smsq:ENDIF .. and SMSQ is loading repeatedly at every restart. It sounds from your description above that the qubide is working fine. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
Hi, I believe my Qubide chips are not working as they should. At first I copied my master floppy disk to improve matters and as things didn't improve I assumed my master disk was faulty; but I now realize my master floppy is ok. Its the chips. Where can I get replacement chips? Arnold From: Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Friday, 13 November, 2009 0:47:20 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display gdgqler wrote, On 12/11/09 11:04: On 11 Nov 2009, at 15:47, arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote: When I remove Qubide everything works fine using the floppy disk to boot up. when reconnect Qubide it starts normal routine but when it restart with Smsq, it stops at the first dot of the initialization dot. I have another hard disk and it is the same with that. I too, had the stopping at one dot with Qubide in my Aurora , Qubide SuperHermes setup. I took the machine to the QUANTA AGM plus workshop last April and J. Southern very kindly cured the problem saying loose connections. Since then the machine has worked properly except that sometimes it will stop at one dot for a day or so. But it will usually start working again after that pause. Why? Ah I remember. I had similar problems when I used Qplane backplane. The problem went away with Mplane. I reckoned at the time it was a noise issue. What backplane do you have Arnold? Try a different arrangement of cards - maybe qubide nearer the QL, if you are using Qplane. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
On 11 Nov 2009, at 15:47, arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote: When I remove Qubide everything works fine using the floppy disk to boot up. when reconnect Qubide it starts normal routine but when it restart with Smsq, it stops at the first dot of the initialization dot. I have another hard disk and it is the same with that. I too, had the stopping at one dot with Qubide in my Aurora , Qubide SuperHermes setup. I took the machine to the QUANTA AGM plus workshop last April and J. Southern very kindly cured the problem saying loose connections. Since then the machine has worked properly except that sometimes it will stop at one dot for a day or so. But it will usually start working again after that pause. Why? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
gdgqler wrote, On 12/11/09 11:04: On 11 Nov 2009, at 15:47, arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote: When I remove Qubide everything works fine using the floppy disk to boot up. when reconnect Qubide it starts normal routine but when it restart with Smsq, it stops at the first dot of the initialization dot. I have another hard disk and it is the same with that. I too, had the stopping at one dot with Qubide in my Aurora , Qubide SuperHermes setup. I took the machine to the QUANTA AGM plus workshop last April and J. Southern very kindly cured the problem saying loose connections. Since then the machine has worked properly except that sometimes it will stop at one dot for a day or so. But it will usually start working again after that pause. Why? Ah I remember. I had similar problems when I used Qplane backplane. The problem went away with Mplane. I reckoned at the time it was a noise issue. What backplane do you have Arnold? Try a different arrangement of cards - maybe qubide nearer the QL, if you are using Qplane. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
Hi Tony, When I remove Qubide everything works fine using the floppy disk to boot up. when reconnect Qubide it starts normal routine but when it restart with Smsq, it stops at the first dot of the initialization dot. I have another hard disk and it is the same with that. Arnold From: Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Monday, 9 November, 2009 20:00:33 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display Tony Firshman wrote, On 9/11/09 19:54: arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote, On 9/11/09 17:57: I have attempted to unplug a couple of items and clean and reinsert them on the SGC. I switched the machine on and I got the tweed display and a message that the real time was at fault, the hard drive and cdrom followed by the dots and then the screen goes blank. I have tried it several times. This sounds better. I guess this is with Aurora, Try first with a std QL and nothing connected to SGC. If that works, try with Aurora with the hard disk disconnected. It could be that your boot program is crashing the QL. If that fails, try removing qubide completely. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
Tony Firshman wrote: arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote, On 11/11/09 15:47: When I remove Qubide everything works fine using the floppy disk to boot up. when reconnect Qubide it starts normal routine but when it restart with Smsq, it stops at the first dot of the initialization dot. I have another hard disk and it is the same with that. Did you try qubide with no hard disk connected, as I suggested? If OK try without a 'boot' file. If you still get a locked up QL then (of course) it is qubide that is faulty. Anyone any suggestions on how he can investigate qubide? All I can suggest is he cleans legs of socketed chips. It could be a dodgy gal, I suppose. Tony No suggestions - I have a set of v2 ROM chips which Arnold could try -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
I have attempted to unplug a couple of items and clean and reinsert them on the SGC. I switched the machine on and I got the tweed display and a message that the real time was at fault, the hard drive and cdrom followed by the dots and then the screen goes blank. I have tried it several times. Arnold From: Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Saturday, 7 November, 2009 17:37:38 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote, On 7/11/09 15:42: Thanks Tony for your reply. the ROM is JM. Yes I am using a SGC. I have three slots I can plug the SGC in to and I cannot see a bent pin in any of them. ... then first check with a *real* QL that SGC is working. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
Tony Firshman wrote, On 9/11/09 19:54: arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote, On 9/11/09 17:57: I have attempted to unplug a couple of items and clean and reinsert them on the SGC. I switched the machine on and I got the tweed display and a message that the real time was at fault, the hard drive and cdrom followed by the dots and then the screen goes blank. I have tried it several times. This sounds better. I guess this is with Aurora, Try first with a std QL and nothing connected to SGC. If that works, try with Aurora with the hard disk disconnected. It could be that your boot program is crashing the QL. If that fails, try removing qubide completely. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
I fitted the SGC into a real QL and although I didn't get the colours it was the same. Arnold From: Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Saturday, 7 November, 2009 17:37:38 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote, On 7/11/09 15:42: Thanks Tony for your reply. the ROM is JM. Yes I am using a SGC. I have three slots I can plug the SGC in to and I cannot see a bent pin in any of them. ... then first check with a *real* QL that SGC is working. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
Hi Arnold, Then it is the Super Gold Card which is at fault - try easing some of the chips out and pushing them back into their sockets - this often works. Otherwise I can have a look at it for you? Rich arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote: I fitted the SGC into a real QL and although I didn't get the colours it was the same. Arnold From: Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Saturday, 7 November, 2009 17:37:38 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote, On 7/11/09 15:42: Thanks Tony for your reply. the ROM is JM. Yes I am using a SGC. I have three slots I can plug the SGC in to and I cannot see a bent pin in any of them. ... then first check with a *real* QL that SGC is working. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.ukhttp://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote, On 8/11/09 10:47: I fitted the SGC into a real QL and although I didn't get the colours it was the same. Then of course it is SGC that is the problem and not Aurora. Try removing chips, cleaning legs and replacing. Careful about the locating tab(s). If still no joy, then you will need a working QL to check the chips. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
In message 654688.79493...@web87105.mail.ird.yahoo.com, arnold.cla...@talk21.com writes Hi Arnold, Have you checked the cable itself from the monitor. Your described symptoms could be a broken connection to one of the pins. Or some damage at the QL connection side. If you do need a replacement monitor for the QL, then I do have several suitable ones available too ( from the London QL Quanta Group ). Hi, My aurora machine has stopped working When I switch on the monitor screen is all one colour ie red,green etc. I have changed the monitor, It seems to me the vertical control is not working either. I was having trouble with Qubide. I put my master floppy in to restore Qubide, but my floppy must be corrupt. I e-mailed Roy, but I have not had a response. Qubide will no longer do a 'make_dir' if the name exists and it will not operate' Store'. Please advise, Arnold ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] aurora display
Hi, My aurora machine has stopped working When I switch on the monitor screen is all one colour ie red,green etc. I have changed the monitor, It seems to me the vertical control is not working either. I was having trouble with Qubide. I put my master floppy in to restore Qubide, but my floppy must be corrupt. I e-mailed Roy, but I have not had a response. Qubide will no longer do a 'make_dir' if the name exists and it will not operate' Store'. Please advise, Arnold ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote: Hi, My aurora machine has stopped working When I switch on the monitor screen is all one colour ie red,green etc. I have changed the monitor, It seems to me the vertical control is not working either. I was having trouble with Qubide. I put my master floppy in to restore Qubide, but my floppy must be corrupt. I e-mailed Roy, but I have not had a response. Qubide will no longer do a 'make_dir' if the name exists and it will not operate' Store'. Please advise, Arnold ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Hi Arnold, I have spare disks for your QubIDE - which version ROM is used? It sounds to me as though your Gold Card or Super Gold Card is not plugged in properly - have you checked all the connectors? -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
Rich Mellor wrote, On 7/11/09 13:18: arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote: Hi, My aurora machine has stopped working When I switch on the monitor screen is all one colour ie red,green etc. I have changed the monitor, It seems to me the vertical control is not working either. I was having trouble with Qubide. I put my master floppy in to restore Qubide, but my floppy must be corrupt. I e-mailed Roy, but I have not had a response. Qubide will no longer do a 'make_dir' if the name exists and it will not operate' Store'. Please advise, Arnold ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Hi Arnold, I have spare disks for your QubIDE - which version ROM is used? It sounds to me as though your Gold Card or Super Gold Card is not plugged in properly - have you checked all the connectors? Indeed. It is very easy to bend pins at the edge and often they will short. If you have be very careful. You have only *one* chance as these pins are not malleable. I use two flat jewellers screwdrivers. The pins need to be quite straight to ensure a good connection. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
Thanks Tony for your reply. the ROM is JM. Yes I am using a SGC. I have three slots I can plug the SGC in to and I cannot see a bent pin in any of them. Arnold From: Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Saturday, 7 November, 2009 13:42:05 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display Rich Mellor wrote, On 7/11/09 13:18: arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote: Hi, My aurora machine has stopped working When I switch on the monitor screen is all one colour ie red,green etc. I have changed the monitor, It seems to me the vertical control is not working either. I was having trouble with Qubide. I put my master floppy in to restore Qubide, but my floppy must be corrupt. I e-mailed Roy, but I have not had a response. Qubide will no longer do a 'make_dir' if the name exists and it will not operate' Store'. Please advise, Arnold ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Hi Arnold, I have spare disks for your QubIDE - which version ROM is used? It sounds to me as though your Gold Card or Super Gold Card is not plugged in properly - have you checked all the connectors? Indeed. It is very easy to bend pins at the edge and often they will short. If you have be very careful. You have only *one* chance as these pins are not malleable. I use two flat jewellers screwdrivers. The pins need to be quite straight to ensure a good connection. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] aurora display
arnold.cla...@talk21.com wrote, On 7/11/09 15:42: Thanks Tony for your reply. the ROM is JM. Yes I am using a SGC. I have three slots I can plug the SGC in to and I cannot see a bent pin in any of them. ... then first check with a *real* QL that SGC is working. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
