Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-03-31 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Umm ... not the "tick tock" ... :-) > >Strange. Maybe your message too the long way around :o) >I suspect there's some data in the message headers we can use to find >out - but I'm not all that clued up on th

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-03-29 Thread Norman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Umm ... not the "tick tock" ... :-) Strange. Maybe your message too the long way around :o) I suspect there's some data in the message headers we can use to find out - but I'm not all that clued up on that part of emailing > CD's / DVD's / Downloads / Magazines,

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-03-29 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Where has Demon been hiding your email for the last month? It seems you >> need a new ISP! > >Nothing wrong with Demon, I've been using them for years and years and >years. I suspect Malcolm's clock is wrong

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-03-28 Thread Norman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Where has Demon been hiding your email for the last month? It seems you > need a new ISP! Nothing wrong with Demon, I've been using them for years and years and years. I suspect Malcolm's clock is wrong as a number of his posts have ended up in the 'ages ago' category

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-03-28 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 19:21 +, Malcolm Cadman wrote: >> I am not sure how free Linux really is ... all those downloads from >the >> internet, all the compiling time if you are in to that side of it, >all >> the magazin

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-03-28 Thread David McCann
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 19:21 +, Malcolm Cadman wrote: > I am not sure how free Linux really is ... all those downloads from the > internet, all the compiling time if you are in to that side of it, all > the magazines to buy, all the applications to acquire ... Where has Demon been hiding your

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-03-27 Thread Richard Kilpatrick
On 19 Feb 2007, at 19:21, Malcolm Cadman wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David > McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 17:47 +, Malcolm Cadman wrote: >>> David, you should raise more issues about the Q60 on this list. >>> No need to wait 2 years again ... :-(.

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-03-27 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 17:47 +, Malcolm Cadman wrote: >> David, you should raise more issues about the Q60 on this list. >> No need to wait 2 years again ... :-(. > >I don't have any Q60 issues any more. When no one could

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-21 Thread Norman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Norman at Dunbar-it.co.uk wrote: > > > Steady Peter, steady :o) > > Shouldn't your reminder better go to the one who started this "myriad > programmers", "personal note" and "talk is cheap" stuff? o:-) > Actually, I meant to put 'steady everyone'. Apologies for 'pick

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-21 Thread John Sadler
So when are you going to include George Gwilt's changes which enable SMSQE to be assembled with QMAC or Gwass? This will open up SMQE to other improvements which are needed. On Tuesday 20 February 2007 09:00, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: > On 20 Feb 2007 at 8:02, Roy wood wrote: > > SMSQ/E is an open

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-21 Thread Daniele Terdina
> The 10 Euro fee to TT ended a while ago and we reduced the price If that's the case, the licence on the official SMSQ/E web site should be updated to current version. Daniele ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

[ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-21 Thread pgraf
Norman at Dunbar-it.co.uk wrote: > Steady Peter, steady :o) Shouldn't your reminder better go to the one who started this "myriad programmers", "personal note" and "talk is cheap" stuff? o:-) [Native TCP/IP & Ethernet] > At present I have absolutely no idea what the current status of said > pr

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-21 Thread Norman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Quite informative to see the SMSQ/E "registrar" shed some light on his > attitude regarding the importance of native OS support for TCP/IP and > ethernet. And a confirmation that I'd only get reasonable opportunities > for major QL hardware again, if the slow and pain

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-21 Thread pgraf
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: > pgraf at q40.de wrote: > > The "registrar" can at any time accept changes/additions/modifications > > which are not distributed in source, but which may be essential. So > > the SMSQ/E license does of course NOT provide this liberty. Instead, a > > developer would depend o

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-21 Thread Roy wood
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Daniele Terdina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> It is, in this respect just the same as LINUX. Peter can be a reseller >> and give it away for free if he wants. We will not stop hi, > >If I understand the licence correctly, resellers have to pay 10 euros to TT, >and I

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-20 Thread Daniele Terdina
> It is, in this respect just the same as LINUX. Peter can be a reseller > and give it away for free if he wants. We will not stop hi, If I understand the licence correctly, resellers have to pay 10 euros to TT, and I'm not sure whether there's also a fee for GD2 or other components, so reseller c

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-20 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The "registrar" can at any time accept changes/additions/modifications > which are not distributed in source, but which may be essential. So the > SMSQ/E license does of course NOT provide this liberty. Instead, a > developer would depend on the mood of the registrar.

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-20 Thread pgraf
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: > Actually, the licence is a bit different: > > In a nutshell, and without this affecting the licence at all: > > Liberties : > You can get the source code, I mean, heck it's on the website... The "registrar" can at any time accept changes/additions/modifications which a

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-20 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 20 Feb 2007 at 9:19, Tony Firshman wrote: > > Mark Swift > That is interesting. Isn't he the QDOS Classic man? Idon't know - he gave persimsion to use his code to re/set the Qx0 cachemodes in SMSQ/E Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-20 Thread Tony Firshman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: > > On the other hand, SMSQ/E HAS progressed, thanks to Marcel, of course, but > not only him: > > Bruno Coativy > Fabrizio Diversi > Phoebus Dokos > George Gwilt > Jerome Grimbert > John Hall > Marcel Kilgus > Mark Swift Tha

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-20 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 20 Feb 2007 at 8:02, Roy wood wrote: > SMSQ/E is an open O/S. Anyone can have the code and anyone can make > changes to it so long as they > a) submit them to Wolfgang for vetting > b) ensure that the changes do not adversely affect other parts of the > O/S > c) can be made compatible with all

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-20 Thread Roy wood
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes >Duncan wrote: > >> Do you have any othe projects else up your sleeve? > >Not absolutely impossible. But nothing major can happen until there's a >decent free QL OS. All reasonable ways I have to implement OS level code >for new hardware invo

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-19 Thread David Tubbs
At 23:01 18/02/2007 -0500, you wrote: >David Tubbs wrote: NO I DID NOT ! ! ! ! ! ! > > At 19:30 15/02/2007 +, you wrote: > > > > > >>>Then there's the lack of USB and printer support. > >> > >>But just a provocative thought. Have you ever tried to connect a USB only > >>laptop to a parall

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-19 Thread David McCann
On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 15:24 +0100, Bob Spelten wrote: > When I searched for the latest version of DBAS I got version 2.13 from the > Quanta librarian (Dec 2002) who told me YOU were the one that last > tinkered with it. > Does this mean you lost your own commented source code? Not guilty! I ne

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-19 Thread Neil Riley
Where do i sign ? >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 16 February 2007 09:28 >>> Neil Riley wrote: > GoMMC, a RomDisq on steroids but with the opportunity to > remove the mem card, excellent. > > Once again, Id buy one if developed for the QL. How would it sound if a SD/MMC device for SuperGoldCard, Q40 and

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-18 Thread Paul Holmgren
David Tubbs wrote: > At 19:30 15/02/2007 +, you wrote: > > >>>Then there's the lack of USB and printer support. >> >>But just a provocative thought. Have you ever tried to connect a USB only >>laptop to a parallel printer? PC World don't know the answer to that one, EBAY can get you the ans

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-17 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> I know that Dilwyn Jones has put most of the available documentation >> on >> his web site, which is easy to access. >> >> http://homepages.tersco.net/dilwyn.jones/index.html >Errr, slight typo: >http://homepages.tesco.net

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-17 Thread Dilwyn Jones
> I know that Dilwyn Jones has put most of the available documentation > on > his web site, which is easy to access. > > http://homepages.tersco.net/dilwyn.jones/index.html Errr, slight typo: http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/index.html The documentation is actually on the third of my 3 sit

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-17 Thread Bob Spelten
Op Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:58:22 +0100 schreef David McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > One of the many reasons I have for preferring SuperBasic to XBasic is > the availability of dbas. But this is another project which got > abandoned. I may be out of date, but the last time I looked the version > suppl

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-16 Thread David Tubbs
At 19:30 15/02/2007 +, you wrote: > > Then there's the lack of USB and printer support. > >But just a provocative thought. Have you ever tried to connect a USB only >laptop to a parallel printer? PC World don't know the answer to that one, >but I do mainly because of my QL experience of lookin

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-16 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: "Roy wood" <> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons >>But just a provocative thought. Have you ever tried to connect a USB only >>lapt

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-16 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 23:02 +0100, Peter Graf wrote: >> I don't think Richard gave up UQLX. Some other QL wheels also need to be >> turned, so there may be different priorities. Usually, if you email him, >> he sends you mor

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-16 Thread David McCann
On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 23:02 +0100, Peter Graf wrote: > I don't think Richard gave up UQLX. Some other QL wheels also need to be > turned, so there may be different priorities. Usually, if you email him, > he sends you more recent code. Then why is the old, uncompilable version still on his website,

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-16 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Graf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >David McCann wrote: > >> The QL no longer has enough users to make commercial products viable, >> nor to produce enough programmers to support open-source products. > >True, but why does nobody seem to see that it's possible to

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-16 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roy wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, gwicks ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>Those of us who went to the Sinclair show in Norwich a couple of years ago >>had a very strong impression that the Spectrum has not moved on to the same >>ext

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-16 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes >Neil Riley wrote: > >> GoMMC, a RomDisq on steroids but with the opportunity to >> remove the mem card, excellent. >> >> Once again, Id buy one if developed for the QL. > >How would it sound if a SD/MMC device for SuperGoldCard, Q40 and Q60

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-16 Thread pgraf
Duncan wrote: > Do you have any othe projects else up your sleeve? Not absolutely impossible. But nothing major can happen until there's a decent free QL OS. All reasonable ways I have to implement OS level code for new hardware involve re-using free software and getting help from persons that

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-16 Thread Matrassyl
In a message dated 16/02/2007 09:29:17 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > How would it sound if a SD/MMC device for SuperGoldCard, Q40 and Q60 had > already been prototyped and a free software to access it was already > written? > Peter Do you have any othe projects else

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-16 Thread Matrassyl
In a message dated 16/02/2007 09:49:30 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That would sound brilliant - I for one would want to offer it for sale !! & I would want to buy one Duncan ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.c

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-16 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 09:28:51 -, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Neil Riley wrote: > >> GoMMC, a RomDisq on steroids but with the opportunity to >> remove the mem card, excellent. >> >> Once again, Id buy one if developed for the QL. > > How would it sound if a SD/MMC device for SuperGoldCard, Q40

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-16 Thread pgraf
Neil Riley wrote: > GoMMC, a RomDisq on steroids but with the opportunity to > remove the mem card, excellent. > > Once again, Id buy one if developed for the QL. How would it sound if a SD/MMC device for SuperGoldCard, Q40 and Q60 had already been prototyped and a free software to access it wa

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-15 Thread Roy wood
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, gwicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Those of us who went to the Sinclair show in Norwich a couple of years ago >had a very strong impression that the Spectrum has not moved on to the same >extent as the QL. We saw stall after stall selling Spectrum hardware and >soft

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-15 Thread Tony Firshman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 gwicks wrote: >> Then there's the lack of USB and printer support. > > But just a provocative thought. Have you ever tried to connect a USB only > laptop to a parallel printer? PC World don't know the answer to that one, > but I do mainly because o

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-15 Thread Peter Graf
David McCann wrote: > The QL no longer has enough users to make commercial products viable, > nor to produce enough programmers to support open-source products. True, but why does nobody seem to see that it's possible to get help from friendly open source folks outside the QL scene? There is good

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-15 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: "David McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 4:53 PM Subject: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons > To keep an old computer going you need a reasonable user-base and a

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-15 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rick Chagouri-Brindle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Malcolm Cadman wrote: >> >> >> Both old and new users are stimulated by something new. >> >> Repeating a list that I gave earlier - probably 3 item ranges will be >> suited : >> >> 1 - £50 to £100 a card of some ty

[ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-15 Thread David McCann
I've been following the debate in a rather detached way since all I use now is QemuLator running SuperBasic (nicer than XBasic and I have a lot of existing software), the Editor (friendlier than Emacs), Abacus (for one spreadsheet I can't be bothered to convert), and (occasionally) QMaths. To keep

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-15 Thread Neil Riley
GoMMC, a RomDisq on steroids but with the opportunity to remove the mem card, excellent. Once again, Id buy one if developed for the QL. Neil >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15 February 2007 12:58 >>> Hi, To stimulate the debate further. I still believe that new hardware stimulates new software, whi

Re: [ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-15 Thread Rick Chagouri-Brindle
Malcolm Cadman wrote: > > > Both old and new users are stimulated by something new. > > Repeating a list that I gave earlier - probably 3 item ranges will be > suited : > > 1 - £50 to £100 a card of some type, probably modular too, that most > people would have an interest in to add to their e

[ql-users] Hardware and software - new horizons

2007-02-15 Thread Malcolm Cadman
Hi, To stimulate the debate further. I still believe that new hardware stimulates new software, which all goes together to create activity and interest. The QL with the original QDOS and the newer SMSQ/E has an OS that is still interesting and capable of development. The form factor of the or