Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress

2002-11-28 Thread Jerome Grimbert
Phoebus Dokos makes some magical things to make me read } [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: } } Ok, please, what scared you ? } I'm afraid to have provided too much dense information, did I ? } } Hehe it's not you. Just the concept of writing a Hello World type of program being } aboyt 700 lines is

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress

2002-11-28 Thread Jerome Grimbert
François Lanciault makes some magical things to make me read } With ProWesS, the COMPLETE code to write a 'Hello World' program in its } own movable window is : } } #include ProWesS_h } } void init() } { } PWObject window; } } PWCreate(NULL,window,PW_TYPE_LOOSE_ITEM, }

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress

2002-11-28 Thread Joachim Van der Auwera
Moreover, in the Hello world, overruling the default C68 init() function is rather agressive, IMHO. The thigs is that ProWesS uses C, but it doesn't use the standard C libraries. Though it can be used in conjunction, it is intended to work without stdlib. In fact, this reduces the size of the

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress - Easyc

2002-11-28 Thread Dave Walker
EasyC is included on the QPTR Companion disk that is available as an optional extra for use with c68. Dave - Original Message - From: Christopher Cave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 12:00 AM Subject: [ql-users] WMAN progress - Easyc

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress

2002-11-28 Thread P Witte
Wolfgang Lenerz writes: AW events are entirely up to the programmer. My point is they are not processed by wm.rptr but by iop.rptr. This explains why there is no reaction to keystrokes defined in the main menu unless the AW happens to be a MSW. Again, I find this not to be the case.

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress

2002-11-28 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 27 Nov 2002, at 17:53, P Witte wrote: Yes please. OK, enclosed- load outptr_bin first. (lrespr) Wolfgang The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any another

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress

2002-11-28 Thread TonyTebby
James Hunkins wrote My only reason to not use ProWesS for my project is that there would be too many people with slow systems who might have an issue with speed. Part of a proper desktop is the requirement that it doesn't get in the way. If there is a speed issue, it would detract from

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress / ProWesS

2002-11-28 Thread Phoebus Dokos
??? 28/11/2002 6:15:28 ??, ?/? TonyTebby [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: In the PC / Unix world, a slow system is less than 500 - 1000 MIPs ProWesS is fast on very slow systems (50 MIPS) and works well on extraordinarily slow systems However, as you said, ProWesS is a very nicely put together

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress

2002-11-28 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], François Lanciault [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes With ProWesS, the COMPLETE code to write a 'Hello World' program in its own movable window is : #include ProWesS_h void init() { PWObject window; PWCreate(NULL,window,PW_TYPE_LOOSE_ITEM,

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress

2002-11-28 Thread Joachim Van der Auwera
I have been telling everyone that ProWesS is much simpler than QPTR/EasyPTR but nobody seems to care... The problem is the slower loading time for the system and slower running on 'ordinary' QL equipment. So the PE remains more convenient. The slower loading is mainly caused by the

[ql-users] DD Discs

2002-11-28 Thread John Taylor
Is anyone interested? I have about 500 DD discs which have been used to program injection moulding machines which are now obsolete. They are free to anyone otherwise I am binning them. Any takers? John Taylor

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress

2002-11-28 Thread Dilwyn Jones
SOme work is definitely needed on Easyptr and so on to help them make the most of GD2. What is surprising is that if you create a program in compiled BASIC with Easyptr 3 and mode 4 sprites etc it actually works in mode 32 on QPC anyway. It doesn't on Qx0... The graphics get all garbled...

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress

2002-11-28 Thread Dilwyn Jones
And for C68 programmers, there is EasyC from Bob Weeks of Pointer Products which turns EasyPtr menus into C68 stuff. I think (not sure, as I ain't been there for a while) it was on TF's bulletin board (Tony?) I can't find it - at least by that name, or 'weeks' If it was there once it

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress - Easyc

2002-11-28 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I have Easyc here. It was bundled with the Tony Tebby example code on a PD disk from Ron Dunnett. Just fired it up and it did start, so if anyone wants a copy . Ah, thank you. A quick look at Ron's PD library catalogue shows it was the QPTR Companion disk Specials 6 (SP6). Also on my PD

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress

2002-11-28 Thread Marcel Kilgus
TonyTebby wrote: In the PC / Unix world, a slow system is less than 500 - 1000 MIPs ProWesS is fast on very slow systems (50 MIPS) and works well on extraordinarily slow systems This is true. Nonetheless it has a response time of approximately one second on my 400Mhz system, which is just too

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress

2002-11-28 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dilwyn Jones wrote: From what I gather, it could be due to a problem in the sprite cache in certain versions of the OS, Probably, yes. I did submit a fix for that bug over a year ago but it never went into SMSQ/E for Qx0 (i.e. QPC and Q40 differ in that respect since QPC2 2.03). The next

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress

2002-11-28 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Marcel Kilgus wrote: This is true. Nonetheless it has a response time of approximately one second on my 400Mhz system, which is just too much, especially compared to the not measurable response time of WMAN. [snip] Argh, that was only a mail draft I thought I had deleted. Damnit. Marcel

Re: [ql-users] DD Discs

2002-11-28 Thread Jochen Merz
Hi John, they would be ideal for the next QL Today cover disk. Could you hand them over to Roy Wood? I could pick my share up from Roy whenever we meet next time... Cheers Jochen John Taylor wrote: Is anyone interested? I have about 500 DD discs which have been used to program injection

[ql-users] Programming in the Pointer Environment.

2002-11-28 Thread John Sadler
It would be great to have an integrated development environment for programming the pointer environment which was free. The bare bones have been developed by George Gwilt with his Tptr and Cptr. Tptr can be compiled by Turbo. Cptr can be compiled by C68. Window Definitions (as opposed to Working

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress

2002-11-28 Thread Tony Firshman
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 at 18:39:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: 003e01c29719$3dce44e0$5630fd3e@blackpc) And for C68 programmers, there is EasyC from Bob Weeks of Pointer Products which turns EasyPtr menus into C68 stuff. I think (not sure, as I ain't been there for a while) it was on TF's

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress

2002-11-28 Thread François Lanciault
On Jeudi, nove 28, 2002, at 01:37 America/Montreal, James Hunkins wrote: My only reason to not use ProWesS for my project is that there would be too many people with slow systems who might have an issue with speed. Part of a proper desktop is the requirement that it doesn't get in the

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress

2002-11-28 Thread Phoebus Dokos
??? 28/11/2002 11:47:26 ??, ?/? François Lanciault [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: It is the 'Many people' that I don't agree with. I think that, by now, MOST Ql users have migrate to SGC speed or faster. Those who still use 68008 Qls do not buy high end programs anyway and are happy with Quill

Re: [ql-users] WMAN progress

2002-11-28 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
Well on the Q40 (at least mine) I tried to load it and it's impossible to get it to work. There has been a long history with incompatibilities between the Q40 and Prowess. I have managed to get it working, though and working correctly on the latest SMSQ/E (2y99 - else I wouldn't have

Re: [ql-users] DD Discs

2002-11-28 Thread RWAPSoftware
In a message dated 28/11/02 19:36:27 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is anyone interested? I have about 500 DD discs which have been used to program injection moulding machines which are now obsolete. They are free to anyone otherwise I am binning them. Any takers? I would