Re: [ql-users] Aurora SMSQ 2.99 or previous
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marcel Kilgus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes According to the private mails you've sent me you are trying to run a Text87 version for Mode 16. Mode 16 doesn't even exist until IIRC SMSQ/E 3.02. The driver that supports Mode 16 is a commercial offering, done by me. It is *not* included in the general SMSQ/E release. It has just occurred to me that he may be using a 'standard' SMSQ/E to run this. He does have the colour one but I net he installed the standard one by mistake when I rebuilt his Aurora a while ago. I have been talking to him about this all week and I had always worked from the assumption he was using a colour version. Damn! -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] MDVs Versus FLPs
If you have the serial lead working and are transferring to a Windows machine you could use Jonathan Hudson's QTPI to send the files and the Windows Hyperterminal to receive them. This would control the handshake and, if you are transferring a lot of files, make it easier to get them in the right place. Mind you I have never done this with a QL. I used to do it using my old PSION organiser. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Size for QXL.win Files
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Gilpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Having installed a large Hard Drive on my PeeCee (on which I run QPC2) I would like to dedicate some storage space for QL files. I understand that the way to do this is to generate one or more QXL.win type files to act as Winchester devices. Is there a maximum size for a QXL.win file running on QPC2 and if so, what is the maximum size allowed? I don't know either. I have a 250mb file at the moment and may extend that to 300mb because of all the stuff I have in it. By way of an advert. Creating and using QXL.WIN files is tackled in the new QL Today 'Start Here' article which I have just emailed to Jochen. Expect volume 10 issue 1 to drop onto your doormat in two weeks time. And by way of a reminder to those yet to re-subscribe (or subscribe?) Now is the time if you don't want to miss out. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Spelin'
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I must find a list of common American<->English spellings and update. I have the American version. This is because, in their infinite wisdom, M$ allow you to set the country settings four times during installation. Most people manage the first two, some manage the third but the fourth one is 'location' or something like that and is buried several layers deep. If you miss it you will default to the US spellings because Bill Gates knows we are all too lazy to learn how to spell properly. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Spelin'
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Darren Branagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes That reminds me of a story in RTE TV here in Ireland many years ago. Similar Situation, but it was the bloke who wrote up the autocue for the newsreaders who was a little disgruntled. In one news story about a post office robbery the newsreader read the autocue:- "and the postmistress was held at gunpoint by two men, each carrying sawn off shitguns" Before I lived here in Brighton I had to come down for a series of shows in the Brighton Centre. We stayed in a hotel called 'The Old Ship Hotel' In the lobby was one of those board which have letters stuck into velvet slots so you can spell out various messages. On the day I was sitting in lobby I noticed it read 'The Old Ship Hotel welcomes'. I casually wandered over and removed the 'p' from Ship and replaced it with the 't' from 'Hotel'. I then replaced that 't' with the 'l' and sat down. It took over an hour of visitors giggling and snorting before the receptionist noticed what I had done. I also recall waiting for someone at Plaistow station. They had a notice on a blackboard which read, ' London Underground apologise for the delays to District Line trains. This is due to Staff Error at Rayners Park'. Unfortunately they left the chalk there and it was a moments work to turn it into 'Stark Terror at Rayners Park' Ah such juvenile amusement. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Spelin'
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Grrr. Who made the English language so difficult??? Because it is so difficult and some of us take the trouble to learn it correctly we don't mangle it like our cousins across the pond - especially their leader. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Spelin'
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Yes, you're right about rong, I missed that. Somewhere along the line, mine must have learned SHURE. I'll have to work out how to remove it now! It is a microphone. He he, things like this tend to expose all sorts of problems don't they! Will be interesting to see what QTYP, Style-Check etc make of John's text! Dilwyn Jones -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] ADDENDUM: Free to a good home
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I apologise now for the fact that the Gold Card isn't present any more - I gave it away some time back. I do have a couple of Super Gold Cards for Sale -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta AGM 2005
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I have at last got around to getting the show photos on line: http://firshman.co.uk/showphotos/Quanta-agm2005/ I need help with a couple of names. Well that was Barbara not Julia! -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] SMSQE v3.04 & v3.10
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wolfgang Lenerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes On 5 May 2005 at 9:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have noticed that SMSQE v3.04 will allow such names as end_if to be used as variables or procedure names. So apparently does SMSQE v3.10. However, SMSQE v3.07 sets end_if, end_def, end_when, end_for and end_sel to END IF, END DEF, END WHEN, END FOR and END SEL. Has anyone else noticed this? If not, is it just in Scotland that this happens? If so why does it happen? There was no change in this in any of the versions as of 3.00 Talking of versions, are we likely to see 3.10 soon. EasyPTR v4 needs this to work correctly. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeremy Taffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes So much for Roy's response to my plea for a better demo. Thanks for the update; now to have a play.. I was just trying to protect Marcel from too many demands on him. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Knight Safe
I have not sold any copies of Mark Knight's Knight Safe for some years and a purchaser from some time back asked me for an update because it did not run under the current SMSQ/E. I checked it here and it does just give a black screen and nothing else. I will look into this during the weekend but, if anyone has any ideas on what is happening here I would be grateful. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Irish Show
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Darren Branagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Brilliant news!! (Steve is a gifted Guitarist. I have Roy's Album with Last Post and he is amazing on it - unbelievable solos.) I had thought you'd lost touch with himI was just listening to him in the car last night on my way home from work (that album occupies slot 4 on my CD Multi-changer!!) I told him how much you and Marcel liked his work and he said "I can't see it myself - I'm just an ordinary guitarist" -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] WIN_FORMAT command
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marcel Kilgus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Derek Stewart wrote: Do I have have to type in WIN_FORMAT 1,0 to protect WIN1_ from being accidentley formatted Yes. That is useful information - I had not thought of this before. I suppose that the format protection reverts on reboot then? -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Internet on the QL
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, =?windows-1253?B?UGhvZWJ1cyBSLiBEb2tvcyAo1u/f4u/yINEuIM30/Orv8ik=?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Someone asking me to tamper with Unixy or Windows-style software? I can just see Roy Wood gritting his teeth in fear now ;-) Tsk tsk... I am sure Roy won't mind ;-) I have only sympathy for the software itself if it has to stand being handled by Dilwyn. Hey maybe we should start a new O/S 'Dilwyndows' I will throw this open to suggestions as to features. Lets see how creative you can be. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Irish Show
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Darren Branagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes So, when is a good time for a Show? Mid-Summer? Or do we leave it until Sept/Oct? Mid summer - August - suits me. BTW Darren I have just come back from an evening with Steve Bensusan (you others will not know him) and he is onboard for the new band. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software Prices.
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jms1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes The main benefit of the free software movement is that source is distributed normally with the code and anybody is free to develope it, and within the license conditions distribute it. This may be an area where some programmers may not like others tinkering with their 'baby'. I can understand that. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Idle thoughts
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes In a message dated 26/04/05 19:32:06 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >And, finally, there seems to be a very encouraging project for Turbo. >Three chers for Geoge for his work on that (and all for free! - grin) Three Chers? One is bad enough! Mind you it does conjure up an interesting tableaux of George entwined with three versions of Cher - could he cope? I thought you were only expected to have two bytes at the Cher - ry. Anyway who is this Geoge? I thought, faced with the prospect you might Geoge yourself. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] was... Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Roy, I don't think this type of query can be answered too often. Could you perhaps do something for your beginners series along these lines: I had planned to do something on 'Essential Programs and Very Useful Ones' I am not sure if this should come after the next section on hard drives and before the one on writing a BOOT file or whether I should put the BOOT file bit next. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Idle thoughts
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, gwicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I wrote it because a user asked for it, and I thought it would be a useful program for the QL world to have. I never expected it to be other than a niche product, but most of the people who have bought it use it enthusiastically. I have been working on new songs for my old band recently and I used it. If we do the planned CD I will credit you. If I had not charged for QL-Rhymes it would never have been written and Just Words! would now be just a part of QL history. I would not have been one of the organisers of QL2004 and would have no part in the running of present shows, I would not want to imagine a QL scene without you. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Idle thoughts
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wolfgang Lenerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes The first and the MAIN reason is that by doing so I support the resellers (mainly Jochen and Roy, but I'm not exluding anyone here). I am convinced that, without them, there would be no QL market. I am also convinced that without this market, however small it may be, there would probably no longer be any real QL scene to speak of. Perhaps this list would still be there, ut QL today probably wouldn't etc. I am convinced that these resellers are the cord that keeps the Ql community tied together. And we are grateful for the support that you and other do give us. And, finally, there seems to be a very encouraging project for Turbo. Three chers for Geoge for his work on that (and all for free! - grin) Three Chers? One is bad enough! Mind you it does conjure up an interesting tableaux of George entwined with three versions of Cher - could he cope? -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] was... Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeremy Taffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Remember that i'm still using Qdos. Has Turbo been kept compatible with that, or does it only support SBasic and SMSQ/E? If it is not compatible what is the most recent version of turbo that is compatible with my system? I've been given so much advice that my head is spinning. In one email I was advised to by QPAC2, but was then told that its the same as the pointer environment I already have. But I thought that it comes bundled with SMSQ/E, so if I were to buy that I wouldn't need QPAC2 as well, surely? Ok some of the advice was maybe not quite worded concisely. The Pointer Environment is the three files PTR_GEN, WMAN, and HOT_REXT. These form the basis of the extended system and are, as you said, bundled into SMSQ/E in an extended form. QPC2 is a collection of system handling routines including file management and job management. The Pointer environment files are now freely distributable and are backwardly compatible. I know my memory isn't as complete as it was, but I'm pretty sure that I bought Qram, which just happened to have the pointer environment bundled with it. QPAC2 also included the pointer environment, but they were different products; but I don't remember what differentiated them. (we are talking 1987 here after all). QRam was a precursor to most of this. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software Prices.
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jms1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes As Dilwyn Jones says in his article in Qtoady that TurboPtr is more flexible than EasyPtr, and the group members feel that software should be paid for, George & I wondered whether the group members did not use it because it was free and they would be happier paying £60 to George because then they felt the program was well worth usingand the author was interested in maintaining it. I think the main hurdle that TuroPtr has to jump is the bad reputation of the previous version. Since George took it over it has apparently leapt forward and is now stable and happy under SMSQ/E. Furthermore he seems to be adding the extras needed for writing modern programs. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, P Witte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Malcolm Cadman writes: >I have the pointer environment. But its very old - I bought it from >Care Electronics when they had a shop in Watford; perhaps in 1988. I'm >not sure that it was sold as QPAC2 though. Files include hot_rext, >ptr_gen, wman, hotkey, ramprt >Would it still work under SMSQ/E, or would I need to upgrade? Yes, that is the one. It may be in need of an upgrade though. The current version of ptr_gen and wman is 2.01. They are both in need of an update though, as they are out of synch with the corresponding SMSQ/E versions (bugs and new facilities). Who maintains these? Well, they are now free to distribute and I do not think that anyone is maintaining them. I suppose if there are bugs they should be reported but I am not sure who would be willing to take it on for nothing. As for new facilities, I think it was never intended that the three PE files should be the same as SMSQ/E. The recent upgrade was so that programs that accessed the new colours would not crash but run in QL mode. Wolfgang may have other ideas but I think if you want extended an O/S you will have to get SMSQ/E. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Jochen, Jeremy - I will make it clear that these links should be followed in the next emailshot. I hope even Colin will not see them as worm links (8-)# I must say I have always regarded these links as flexible adverts and people should refer to them just before a show in case we have added some new goodie to tempt them along. I keep a permanent link to them on the website too. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Tubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes At 17:45 24/04/2005 +0100, you wrote: But when I recently furnished him with information he had asked for it was not even acknowledged nor a relevant enquiry answered. I thought we had a brief and acrimonious exchange and some of the information was wrong. I must admit I did misread part of it to start with but some of the statements you made were not right. Did you post for details of the mentioned fast emulator ? Did you receive my post made some 4hours later ? Did you read it ? Did you acknowledge it ? Did you respond to it ? At the end of your post you said. 'So I will end this exchange' or word to that effect and accused me of 'verbiage'. I decided not to reply. And you accuse me of being aggressive? Seemingly NO to the last two at least. I certainly made the assumption the PC floppy ribbon would do the job, nothing to try it out on just now. So what other "statements " were wrong Why am I wasting my time answering you now? That is the real question. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Tubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes At 02:02 23/04/2005 +0100,Jeremy Taffel wrote: Roy, I don't know why you have to take such an aggressive stance. It is his way, always got time to dish a superfluous diatribe. But when I recently furnished him with information he had asked for it was not even acknowledged nor a relevant enquiry answered. I thought we had a brief and acrimonious exchange and some of the information was wrong. I must admit I did misread part of it to start with but some of the statements you made were not right. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeremy Taffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I know that response was meant as a jest, but I was being perfectly serious.Surely, if you are interested in selling a product, its up to you to show what it can do. If you leave it to the prospective buyer to try to work it out for himself you will end up losing sales. As I have never used SMSQ/E, I think I should be the LAST person to write a demo to show off its capabilities. Anyway, your suggestion is unworkable. Firstly, as I said, I no longer own any native QL hardware (that includes Gold card). Secondly, I'm not sure how I use QLAY to write anything that uses the SMSQ/E features that QDOS lacks. Perhaps you could enlighten me there? Even if that wasn't the case, there would be the learning curve to go through to find out how to use the high colour etc. All of which requires manuals etc. Yes it was. Although I had not realised that you wanted it to demonstrate the colour drivers too. The problem is that it is hard to do anything that really demonstrates it all given that there are some aspects which remain commercial property and cannot be released on demos. Most of the program demos need MENU_REXT loaded and that is a commercial release. You may wonder why this is but the answer is that it is programmable from BASIC and sold as such. The user would have to have a disk with the menu extensions on it and then he could load those but this would then mean it would have to be a QL User (and an up to date one) and that does not give a demo to the uninitiated. Perhaps the answer would be to sell the demo for the price of the menu extensions. If the user is happy with the demo he can then return his receipt and get that money back when he buys the full thing. This would mean two demos. One with the full QXL.WIN demo on it that is paid for and another, without them, which is free. How does that sound? -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Super Gold Card Batteries
Just to announce that I now have the correct Super Gold Card Batteries from the supplier. Email me if you want some. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeremy Taffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I don't know why you have to take such an aggressive stance. Why do you have problems? I was not complaining about the cost, nor requesting a price reduction, merely offering the constructive suggestion that if the market appears to have reached saturation, a new market might open up if the price is reduced. I seem to have sparked off quite a lively debate, so it was a worthwhile exercise, but it turns out that my suggestion had been tried already without, apparently much success. I wasn't complaining that I missed the promotion, merely curious to discover where I should look for such offerings. It must be admitted that although I visit Marcel's site quite often, I don't visit Jochen's, and no I don't subscribe to QL Today, but that is hardly a crime is it? I was not being aggressive I was just pointing out the way it seems to the people who put a lot of time and effort into keeping the QL scene going. The very fact that people are on this list shows they have an interest but so few of them contribute in an other way. I suppose after a couple of weeks of sitting at the computer writing two articles for the current edition of QL Today, checking and preparing the new EASYPTR release with Marcel, setting how much sweat and effort Jochen puts into getting the magazine out on time, seeing how much Marcel puts into QPC2, QPCPrint and the EASYPTR update and getting a QL show ready I was just peeved that people seemed to think all this was not really worth a few pounds or any real support from them. Maybe you were, somewhat unjustly, on the receiving end of that. And now for another suggestion The QPC2 demo on Marcel's site hardly shows the system off to its best potential.. The presentation of the screen that results from the boot file on the .win file that is included for download is awful, and could have been from qdos. There really isn't anything to help the uninitiated to know whatto do with it, and it does not seem to have changed since I first looked at QPC1. This surely is not the way to showcase the system. The justwords demo does that much better, as do the screenshots from QDT that I've seen. How about a demo that properly showcases the programme? (expecting another flame from Roy telling me how much work I'm asking someone to do for free ;-) ) No you won't get it just a suggestion that you do one and then give it to us to put on the site (tee hee). Of course you won't be able to save it in the demo but you could write the boot file using QLAY and then test it on the demo. - or even get SMSQ/E for your Gold card ! -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, COLIN PARSONS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Ok, so if you had to solve the problem of producing a demo that would satisfy curiosity, but was limited in some way that would compell the thus satisfied punter to buy the product rather than just continuing to use the demo, what would you suggest? A 30 day time limited version, as is normal in most share ware, degrading to your no save mode, after this time limit. QPC2 is not a normal PC program. It does not write to the registry, install hidden files, DLLs or any of that stuff. It is, in fact very QL! Making it time out so that those with short arms and long pockets don't just reinstall it again would be a major undertaking. You know that the save works. If you have the programs on another QL system you can configure them there and then transfer them. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeremy Taffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Where did you advertise this? I didn't know about it. Jeremy Probably in QL Today. Do you subscribe to that? No You see this is where I have a problem with all this. Here is someone who 'cannot justify the expense of buying QPC2' and probably cannot justify the expense of subscribing to QL Today and wants Marcel, Jochen and I to justify the expense of supplying him with cheap software. How does this work? What do you put in? -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Roy's section in QLToday
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Duncan Neithercut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Hi Roy I always read your bit in QLToday first, its always about innovation. I saw two of your clients had a problem with QCDEZE and the QDT CDrom. You have found a new way of getting software support. You could have got help quicker if you had emailed me. Did you check which version(s) of QCDEZE was being used. I thought he had been in touch with you himself and I was just reporting it in case anyone else had a problem like it and could not solve it. I had always had a great appreciation of your work - no slur was intended. By the way I would be happy if you could write a bit about the use of QCDEZE for inclusion in the Start Here series in the next issue of QLT. As for the name shortening, sorry but you only have Bill Gates to blame for that one as you must have used a PC to burn the CD. The names on the ISO9660 part of the CD are short due to DOS short file name conventions, directories are not part of the file name in DOS. If you had burnt it on an Amiga there would be no problems with filename length. I only got my head around Windows LFNs last year when I wrote my FAT16 CFcard programme, so its not part of QCDEZE. It was no fun and I would need to be paid money to put it in. I suppose it works in QPC2 because that accesses the files using Windows. Interesting. I had not thought of that. More for the next column them Glad to see someone reads the columns then - I do wonder at times. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Tubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Would you buy the "buggy" version, even if it were £20 less? The "fix" is usually to get the latest version. So someone was happy to sell Buggy versions for top dollar ! No software of any complexity is without bugs. QPC2's bugs are usually fixed before any get sold and those that slip through are fixed very quickly with free updates. Older versions are not buggy as suggested - just not as refined and developed as the current ones. Some newer programs require keywords that have been especially built into SMSQ/E to make them work. QPC2 and SMSQ/E are inter-linked and some versions will not work with the wrong SMSQ/E file. The whole thing is a continuous line of sustained development and very hard to backtrack on. In the end the users benefit from this. Most upgrades are free and the ones which are charged for are major re-workings of the system. Much of this is not evident to the users except that it works better and does more things. Marcel does not even own a trumpet let alone blow it. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roy wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, =?utf-8?B?XCJQaG9lYnVzIFIuIERva29zICjOps6/zq/Oss6/z4IgzqEuIM6dz4TPjA==?= =?utf-8?B?zrpcIlwizr/PgilcIg==?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes FOS Software does not mean Free Support if the dealer or creator doesn't intend it that way. Users that confuse the both need a quick lecture that's all... That was my point Marcel, Jochen and I choose to sell it. They know the price. Try arguing with the man at the petrol pump on a slack day or the supermarket checkout at night by saying - there are not many people buying why not halve the price. Sorry I misread the original there, -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeremy Taffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes SMSQ - Jochen Merz wrote: We cut QPC as a special offer to 49 EUR last year (this is about 33 pounds - the price region you talk about) ... did we get hundreds and thousands of sales? No! Where did you advertise this? I didn't know about it. Jeremy Probably in QL Today. Do you subscribe to that? -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tarquin Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes One technique is to get an 0870 (national number) at 7p a minutes and 1p or 2p of the call charge is given to you, this is like the system that free ISPs use and if I had the money for a second line for a QL ISP I would use. The Phone Coop (http://www.thephone.coop) used to offer this service for free, I do not know if they still do. Don't forget to add the 1-2 minute recorded announcement about 'please listen to the following options carefully .. calls may be recorded for training and' followed by the options in a complex manner and 'to 'repeat these options key 9' by that time you have spent a bit. And then you get 'all of our operators are busy. Your call is important to us (but not important enough to actually employ anyone to answer it) so please hold the line until an operator becomes available (or until we have made enough to retire)' -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, =?utf-8?B?XCJQaG9lYnVzIFIuIERva29zICjOps6/zq/Oss6/z4IgzqEuIM6dz4TPjA==?= =?utf-8?B?zrpcIlwizr/PgilcIg==?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes FOS Software does not mean Free Support if the dealer or creator doesn't intend it that way. Users that confuse the both need a quick lecture that's all... That was my point Marcel, Jochen and I choose to sell it. They know the price. Try arguing with the man at the petrol pump on a slack day or the supermarket checkout at night by saying - there are not many people buying why not halve the price. Now from that point to the point of offering support for things you haven't sold or that are free are each one's decision. But that's not the FOSS community's fault certainly but rather the user's that demands too much - There is a reason for the "You give them an inch they'll take a mile" saying... :-) Most of them are friends after all these years so I help anyway. Some are a pain in the fundamental orifice - but, curiously, they don't seem to realise they are in that group. If someone wants the platform to be free but they are not interested in buying QPC or QemuLator and uQLx doesn't satisfy them... they can always go ahead and change for example uQLx to support colours etc... :-) My point entirely. The free software brigade is so active they have already changed the free QL emulators into something that makes SMSQ/E and QPC2 obsolete. If these people would stand up I could hear them more clearly. My particular "beef" with SMSQ/e is with its license. I just knew someone would mention that. Like it or not there has been more improvement in SMSQ/E since the licence than in any other system. Support schemes. If you choose to answer, well that's a credit to you, but not the software author's fault! You SHOULD charge for support for FOSS... there's nobody stopping you from doing so and most likely I suspect that the phonecalls would stop very fast as well ;-) As for the "Added Value" of support being nonsense, I do not think that software giants like RedHat, Novell and mySQL are stupid... do you? They base their income on that scheme :-) That is because this stuff is so hard to understand. One interesting thing is that people base their assumption that LINUX has and increasing market share on sales and downloads but how many try it and give up? I work in an area where we interact with the public. Users, small and large businesses. Some businesses run LINUX and are very happy with it. Some run both LINUX and WINDOWS because they need computability. (Yes , you can read and write Office formats under Open Office but it screws them up as Marcel and I found out while doing the EPTR manual. Annoying stuff like not being able to edit the footers afterwards etc.). Some tried it and reverted to WINDOWS because there was not enough software or drivers. When you get down to the individual users many have bought it. Some never tried it some couldn't understand how to install it and some are happy. Groups one and two are candidates for the 1 pound a minute phone lines but this is, after all just another rip off. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, COLIN PARSONS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Taking an example from the Linux community again, a LOT, if they have any real belief in the future of the platform. How many work in the QL sector for real monetary gain, rather than love of the product? This is an argument we re-visit every now and then. The trouble is those who get on the horse at one end of the valley marked 'Free For All' and those at the opposite end never ever change their mind so we all trot out the same tired clichés. Both sides are possible. You can write software and give it away for free if you want. QPC2 does not stop you doing that. Or you can write software and sell it. Trouble is there are very few people doing either. We should appreciate both of these sides and say 'thank you'. What we do get is people saying 'well I don't use the platform much, and I only take a passing interest in it but make it free anyway' The answer is simple. If you want it, and it cost money, buy it. If you think it is too dear, don't. There are many free or cheap emulators - they may not be so good or get such sustained development, but then that is what you are paying for. If you object to the author owning the rights to his own work don't buy by it but don't whinge on about it. It is, after all his decision. I own a garden at the back of my house. You are welcome to look at it but I don't want you digging in it or building on it. No difference. The idea that you can make money with 'added value' is nonsense because people still call me at all hours and want support - usually for things they have not bought from me. People still send disks for 'free updates in little envelopes with no return labels and postage, and people don't 'buy' manuals. I found this out with ProWesS when I offered to print them at cost. For many people the manual should be in my house so they can call me up and have me read it to them as some kind of techno bedtime story. We all have our own viewpoint on this. I suggest that, after several discussion on the subject we all give up trying to change the other sides mind. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeremy Taffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I'm still surprised that he doesn't try to squeeze out the last bit of revenue by offering to sell old versions at even more heavily discounted rates. The simple answer, I think, is that the advances made in recent versions of SMSQ/E and QPC2 make the older versions irrelevant. If you look at software prices and the psychology behind purchases, it doesn't matter what the product is, most people wouldn't think twice about paying £20 or £30 for a piece of software, but would if it costs £60 or £70. Witness, as an example, all the people willing to take the risk with dodgy oem copies of windows XP on ebay.co.uk, rather than paying the price for kosher copy. But that is another world. One where it does not matter to people if the software costs something, or took a lot of work or, in fact belonged to someone in the first place. If they can steal it they will. That is not how we operate in the QL community. We pay for our software because we respect the amount of work that goes into producing it and, by giving that money we encourage the authors to produce more, to develop and to innovate. None of us have to do this - we all make a loss out of it but we do it because we want to and because we are appreciated. When that stops you will be left in a barren world of thieves and vagabonds. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Where is that on your website ? I would like to try it and to mention it in the next start here which deals with this kind of thing. Next cover disk material maybe? QXL.WIN utilities etc. On the My Freeware page, in the Software section of the Tesco.net site. This is really getting out of hand, trying to keep three sites (Tesco, TopCities and Freeola) up to date. I'll have to get round to putting the whole lot on one site soon. http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware.html Thanks I will look at it and add it to the next article. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Phil Jordan
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Is anyone in contact with Phil Jordan? I think he may have left an item behind at the Hove Quanta AGM yesterday, I seem to have one more CD coming home than I thought I should have. The last email address I have for him seems to be returning mails undelivered. At the show he gave me this address: philiplATfreeserveDOTcoDOTuk Sorry I did not reply before but I was quite ill after the show and spent most of yesterday in bed with a high temperature. I just about managed to get through the day at the show. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Darren Branagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Can't see 'em anywhere on the hamiltone website, so don't think they do 'em. Yes we do but they are with the RAM Connect 3D 128MB USB 2.0/1.1, 4003, Samsung £8.48+VAT = £9.97 inc. Canyon Canyon 512MB USB 2.0/1.1, Black, USB Extender & Neck Cord £24.20+VAT = £28.44 inc. and look under the Kingston DATA travellers too Sorry to advertise here but it is not for me so I suppose that is OK. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPCPrint & othe releases
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, SMSQ - Jochen Merz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I will update the website soon, but we just returned last night from the UK and it seems I catched Roy's cold. That was quick! Still it is only a three day cold so you should be OK soon. I think I made it worse by going diving just before it kicked in. Sorry to give that to you. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Considering that I have (twice, I believe) on this list published a routine to set the name of a QXL.WIN container file, and have gone to a lot of trouble to produce a handy little PE utility, called Qwirc, that is designed to do just that and a lot more besides, I dont quite see why. And if the WIN_DRIVE command is not to people's liking, there is a little utility by me called QXLWINManager to change drive references. Between Qwirc to rename them and QXL WIN Manager to reassign and the SBASIC WIN_DRIVE command, should be easy enough to manhandle your QXL.WINs now. Where is that on your website ? I would like to try it and to mention it in the next start here which deals with this kind of thing. Next cover disk material maybe? QXL.WIN utilities etc. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Hove Show and AGM
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, François Van Emelen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Dilwyn Jones schreef: 7. New Easyptr software available at last, hope everyone will now get a flurry of releases of colourful new QL software! That's good news. Price for the upgrade? £27.50 on CD with manual in pdf format. Any news of QPCPRINT? I saw a demo in Eindhoven a few weeks ago; impressive. Also released at the same price. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Darren Branagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I think it's a great idea, but may be worth shopping about anyway; Roy? Do you do USB drives? Yes we do that - and we sell USB hubs cheaper than EBuyer too! >I've convinced myself, where can I buy one Darren? ;-) Well, maybe Roy Wood can get alternate ones cheaper from Hamiltone, might be worth checking. www.hamiltone.co.uk -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, P Witte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I have no problem reading mine from QPC2. I do have a w problem with it being called WIN6. I must confess that that had not occurred to me before. I just made it up as WIN6_ and did not really pay much attention to it being named that. I have corrected this now and future users will see it called 'QDT' courtesy of your QWIRC utility. The question really was why did users of other systems have a problem reading it as reported? Works fine on QPC2. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes If Daniele Terdina, Rickard Zidlicky and Phoebus are lurking here today, can you let us know if the various QemuLators and uQLxes can handle a QXL.WIN in a sub-directory? e.g. can they access C:\foo\QXL.WIN Or only C:\QXL.WIN, D:\QXL.WIN and so on? This would be useful information for my next article. I do not want this to be a one man operation so I would welcome any input from others. Also, can a QXL access more than one QXL.WIN anywhere other than root directory? Suspect the answer is no if using vanilla QXL SMSQ, yes if using qxl smsq/e Ordinary SMSQ is limited to one QXL.WIN file per logical drive. SMSQ/E for the QXL has configurable drives so it can read these files anywhere and with any name. I wonder if the WIN_DRIVE commands are implemented in SMSQ. I suspect not but I do not have a QXL or a PC with an ISA slot to test it out. If they are then you could use Per Witte's QWIRC program to access them. If not maybe someone should do a small extension that can be added to SMSQ to enable it. Mind you how many QXLs are there that are still in use? -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeremy Taffel<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Getting back on topic... I would be interested in the DVD, but, as I am limited to plain vanilla QDOS emulation (uQLx, QLAY), because, I can't justify the outlay for QPC2. (I'm not saying that it's over-priced, but in a limited and shrinking market, no selling price can be a commercial proposition, so better surely to drop the price and get some new sales than leaving it at a price where it costs a comparable price to complete linux distro, complete with professional manuals, and 6 cds or so of applications, or an oem version of Windows) The point is that QPC2 has represented a great deal of work on the part of Marcel who is still at university and has a low income. If you take it that the LINUX distribution and that Windows is more widespread then the payment you are making in respect of the work put into their construction is far higher. If you had a similar payment to make to Marcel for the time effort and dedication he has put into making QPC2 such a superb system you would be paying a lot more. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I touted this idea at Portslade on SUnday, only two people said they might be interested, another three said they thought it might be a goodidea but they probably wouldn't buy it themselves. Points you'll need to consider: 1. Multiple QXL.WINs on a single DVD. Users will need to know how to set up for these in QPC2. Not all emulators can access QXL.WIN in a sub-directory. I intend to tackle the details of QXL.WIN file handling in the next part of 'Start Here' in QL Today. I believe there is software to read QXL.WIN files on other systems but I did get reports of people being unable to access the QDT QXL.WIN files on the CD so I would be grateful for more details on this. 2. The different - and + formats Most modern DVD-ROM and DVD-RW drives are multi format these days and the difference between + and - disks resides mostly in their multi-session capabilities. There can be problems using +R disks in DVD players that connect to TVs but that is of little concern here. 3. Many of the current QL CDs have different stuff in the QXL.WIN to what they have outside that. COnsider the Literature CD and the Documentation CD for example. You'll either need a good front end or a good set of documentation explaining where everything is. At the moment, copies of all my CDs are on my hard disk like this: I would agree with that. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Super Gold Card Batteries
For those of you who were disappointed at the Hove show to find the batteries I had bought were not the correct ones. Here is an update. I have discovered that it was the company I bought from and not me that made the error. The batteries looked similar but had the terminals in the wrong place. They were 40LH220 instead of 40LF220. They have agreed to ship me the replacements and collect the wrong ones. I should be able to supply them by the end of the week. If anyone else wants any can they please let me know so I can order in one go to keep the carriage costs down. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Q60 / 80
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: Hi 68k folks, One week ago, I posted a message to sales at q40.de, but got no anwser then. I also tried webmaster at q40.de, but got no anwser too. Derek Stewart of D&D Systems is just back from a trip, I guess he'll check the "sales" account soon. I spoke with Derek a short time ago and I gather he is going into hospital for an operation soon. This may be why there is no reply. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Hove Workshop
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, P Witte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Problem is, at the end most people are busy getting home. I dont suppose therell be an aftermath on Sunday? I cant make Saturday.. There is always some kind of aftermath. Jochen always likes to get an Indian meal in at some point when he is here so I am planning to visit a restaurant in Brighton Marina fairly soon after the show. You are welcome to join me at my house for a coffee after the show and a meal in the early evening. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Re: US show (fwd)
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Cable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes NASUG is pleased to announce 2005 US QL show in Fitchburg, Mass.; 25 miles west of Boston. Site near Fitchburg Econolodge. Exact site and times to be announced soon. In the meantime, attendees can make reservations and room selection at www.econolodge.com at $49.90/night. Hard to reserve a room if you don't know that date. Fitchburg is the prettiest place on earth in the fall due to the change of fall leaf colors. It is something everyone should see at east once in their lifetime. Fitchberg is at the east end of route 2 and is one of the prettiest scenic drives in America. It runs through the Massachusetts Berkshires with breathtaking views. Al Boehm had a successful caratid artery surgery. He is on the road to recovery for some left side paralysis. He is now able to eat food again and is regaining strength every day. That is good to hear. Wish him well from me. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Hove Workshop
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Re. the flyer for Hove, what (if anything) is happening on Saturday 16th? Nothing is planned as such but Jochen, Bernd and Marcel will arrive on Saturday so I could arrange a meal of some kind. Need to know how many people would like to attend a meal so I can book. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Q-Starter
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Any news on the availability of the official Easyptr 4, Roy? Marcel did mention some time ago he hoped it might be at the AGM, the money for the upgrade is burning a hole in my pocket! We are hoping for release at the AGM Shall we annoy Marcel and tell him he's working on QLiberator next ;-)) I think you would be taking your life in your hands -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Q-Starter
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Duncan Neithercut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Hi, tried it & got the Qlib error message : Line 600 MSTAT% Invalid name - an easy ptr extension? Can you distribute the easy ptr runtimes with it? The runtimes are not distributable because they are part of the commercial package but they can be compiled within the program itself. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] US floppy disk drives
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, =?windows-1253?B?UGhvZWJ1cyBSLiBEb2tvcyAo1u/f4u/yINEuIM30/Orv8ik=?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes That may not be the case completely. He can get a Step Up transformer from Radio Shack or Wal*Mart (at the travel section) for anywhere from 15 to 35 USD. I can guarantee this is a working solution because I use it with all my UK Sinclair stuff :-) But that would all cost a bit, especially with shipping, whereas getting one from a US user would be cheaper for him. BTW I have a few DD bare drives I have taken out of Miracle cases when the users wanted HD ones I could let you have a couple if I come over for the US show in the Autumn if you want them. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >We could have an irregular 'off topic' column in which articles of >interest could be published - even if not related to the QL. Or would >that be unacceptable ? There is QL-Chat. It has been silent for ages but was quite lively for a while. True, but I was referring to the esteemed QL Toady periodical. Ah the written word ! We I make a little amateur stab at it form time to time but do try to keep it computer related. Question is how much off topic stuff would the average punter stand? There are those who have complained about show reports that detail occurrences on the journey to and from the show. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Norman Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Roy wood wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes The following are just some of the titles planned for release this year: I love them all - if they were computer related they would be in my column. They were send by a Computer Programmer/ Oracle DBA - does that count ? We could have an irregular 'off topic' column in which articles of interest could be published - even if not related to the QL. Or would that be unacceptable ? There is QL-Chat. It has been silent for ages but was quite lively for a while. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Gold/SuperGold Card Batteries
I have located a source of new Gold / SuperGold Card Batteries. These will cost 10 pounds each + carriage but I need to get some idea of how many people will want one before I order. I have no wish to have many of these items sitting around here. My original source of these batteries no longer does them so I suspect they are soon to be obsolete. I would like to order this week so they can also be purchased at the Hove Show on 17th April Mentioning that Tony - Flyer time? -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes The following are just some of the titles planned for release this year: I love them all - if they were computer related they would be in my column. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] US floppy disk drives
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Tubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes A floppy drive is a floppy drive - 5vand sometimes 12v , he could pick up at Tandy or anywhere else, If he wants an external housed set then definitely buy in the States for 110/120vac Ah yes but to use them on a standard QL he would have to have them in a case and have power going to them. I have the cased drives but it would cost as much as the drives to ship them to the US and then they would be 240v instead of 110v which is used in the US. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] That Fast emulator
Can anyone remind me of the name of that fast QL emulator that was mentioned on this list a while back? -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] US floppy disk drives
Hi, I have been contacted by someone in New York who wanted to get a set of twin drives for his QL. Quite apart from the expense of shipping them to him we also have the problem of the voltage difference. Do any of the US users have a set of drives that they can sell to him instead. They only need to be DD drives because he is getting a Trump Card from me. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Stick
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ken Bain
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
I thought it might be nice to have a QPC setup on a USB flashdrive.
Here's what I did
1 plugged in the flashdrive (16M Smartmedia in a reader/writer)
2 formatted it
3 copied the QPC folder (default: c:\windows\program files\QPC2 ) and
contents onto the flashdrive
4 copied the win file (default: c:\Qxl.win ) into the QPC2 folder on
the flashdrive
5 opened this folder, run QPC2.EXE to show the configuration dialogue
6 opened 'devices' and set win1 to .\win1 ie dot backslash filename
7 Saved it, and create a shortcut to QPC2 .exe outside the folder, for
neatness.
dot backslash is dosspeak for ' look in the current directory'. It
isn't listed in any of the dos manuals I've got, although dot dot
backslash is. ('look in parent directory' ) Anyway it works and means
you can plug the drive in to any suitable windows PC and need not tell
qpc the absolute address for each PC.
This flashdrive setup has worked in XP pro, Win2000pro, Win98.
Astonish your friends. Impress gullible women. Go forth and multitask!
Ken Bain
This should be in the next QLToday Dilwyn. Useful information.
I do a similar thing but always have to set the directory in QPC2 this
is neat.
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Re: [ql-users] qdt/qpc;
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes The problem with the hotkey setup has been reported by another user and I did encounter it during the beta testing phase. Jim will look into it. I find I cannot set a hotkey here either so I suspect that when we originally found the problem we had more urgent problems to solve and just forgot to go back to this one. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] louder
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, P Witte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I have a small amplified speaker setup that I used to sell with Q40s when I was doing them. It fits into the 5.25" bay, is powered by a hard drive cable and just needs a little fiddling with the input cable to work. I am sure these are available new still and cost around 20 pounds with a volume control. I can get one for you if you want. When I ordered the above for Per I accidentally ordered two of them so I have one spare if anyone else wants a built in, amplified sound system for his Q40/Q60. Cost is 23.50 pounds + shipping -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL-PC Fileserver
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 at 21:03:56, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
Sernet should work on standard QL as long as you have the STX and SRX
split serial ports - which means you need either SMSQ/E or H P
Recktenwald's serial port extensions ("SimSer"). May have to use a low
baud rate, 9,600 or lower, don't think 19,200 stands a chance on a QL.
Obviously, for sernet, you have to have QDOS and/or SMSQ/E at both ends.
I think you have to have SMSQ/E on both ends for it to work.
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Re: [ql-users] louder
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, P Witte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Hi guys, Ive been fiddling around with sound on my Q60. Problem 1) Im using a standard PC speaker, but the sounds are so faint as to be barely audible. The Q60 manual says to use a speaker with an impedance of 32 or higher. Standard speakers are 8 Ohm, and I have yet to find an electronics shop that has heard of a 32 Ohm one. Is there another way to do this, or does anyone have a spare 3 - 4" speaker suitable for Qx0es kicking around that I could buy? I have a small amplified speaker setup that I used to sell with Q40s when I was doing them. It fits into the 5.25" bay, is powered by a hard drive cable and just needs a little fiddling with the input cable to work. I am sure these are available new still and cost around 20 pounds with a volume control. I can get one for you if you want. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC2 v3.30
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wolfgang Uhlig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Am Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:49:15 +0100 hat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> geschrieben: Hi Wolfgang When I try to run this in QPC, setenv is refused (not recognised). I must be missing something in my boot program? Any ideas? Regards, Ian I am not the Wolfgang you are addressing to, but nevertheless... IIRC you have to load the signal extensions first, so that setenv is recognized. No you need the 'env_bin' extension. Environmental variables. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Removable media
I have just acquired a couple of second user removable media units that I think will work with the Qubide. One that I know works is the Syquest 120mb drive and I have that and a few cartridges for it. I also have a LS120 drive and several disks. If anyone wants to buy these let me know off list. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] A QL in Spain
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, sinclairql <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Roy wood escribió: Some of us we followed interested in an international meeting in our country, although it is necessary to animate much to the possible visitors. Some of us are cartoons already! I wanted to say: to motivate XDDD That's OK I could not even do two words in Spanish. I just cannot resist a joke - do I hear gasps of surprise?. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I can just hear Roy muttering "Dilwyn and his PC again..." Could be worse - could be Jochen and almost anything electrical. He is the only person I know whose washing machine has a software fault. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] A QL in Spain
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, sinclairql <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I hope that you come in June, although to take the Sun. We will definitely be there and would be happy to engage with some of you. We will be in Barcelona and Madrid so perhaps we can arrange an evening show in our Hotel. We will publish our itinerary later but if anyone wants anything brought over do let us know - otherwise it will be just sun cream, and sandals in out suitcases! Some of us we followed interested in an international meeting in our country, although it is necessary to animate much to the possible visitors. Some of us are cartoons already! -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, gwicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes At this stage there was some doubt over the legal position, which in itself led to a lot of misunderstanding because no one had thought of asking Albin. I understand that he is quite happy for the program to be upgraded. Jochen and I have never had any doubts over the legal position because Albin handed control of over to us. He did, at the time say, he would reassume control when the colour drivers cam out but that tool too long and he is now out of the mondset which created it. When I last saw the upgraded version all it did was allow you to use GD2 colours directly, but nothing else. For example, if you use high resolution sprites you have to load these into EasyMenu every time you make changes to a menu. This is true and I am not sure how they would work when that menu was used. I have been experimenting with it myself recently because I have updated my Invoicing program. I find I cannot get high colour sprites to stick. Marcel had a look at it for me but said : ''Well, as far as I remember the whole object code is a complete mess, I'm not surprised it isn't working... I tried it with the example file above, but even though the sprite is loaded again Sysmon starts beeping, so doesn't work too well either.' I would be happy to release the version I have here as a free upgrade but we are not sure of the stability of it and it does have the above problems with the icons. That said I will ask him if I can release the version I have to registered users and include it as a high colour option on the distribution disk. I know he does not want work on this so I doubt there will be another version unless his curiosity gets the better of his judgement and he pokes at it some more. We have come to expect a high standard from Marcel, and thus we should respect his opinion on this and not pressure him to release an incomplete product. I completely agree. I also agree with previous comments about producing menus by non graphical means. EASYPTR was the best way to make the menus in spite of its obvious drawbacks in other areas. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wolfgang Uhlig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I am a liittle bit astonished because AFAIR there were many people in Eindhoven 2004 already who pointed out that they would be willing to pay for an upgraded version of EasyPtr. Nevertheless nothing happens exept for the question in this group every now and then, whether there will be an upgrade or not. Well how many is many and what would you update ? The extensions all seem OK and the problems seem to lie in the menu and sprite generation software. Now if this is what needs to be done the answer may lie in wring a new program to generate menus and sprites in high colour mode that follow the EASYPTR standard and will work with the extensions. How hard or easy this is I cannot say When I asked Marcel personally some weeks ago, he told me that he is not at all interested to do it. I did not say he was interested in doing it just that he was the ideal person to do it. I gather that the code is very hard to work with as I said and I also get the impression that he does not want to do it. So what is true? I would definitely want to have an upgrade (and pay for it ofcourse) and think that we need it urgently. So, as far as I am concerned, please stop discussing it, fix a price for it and begin to DO it. It is all very well to say this but how do you get someone to do it? Now I realise that you will all say 'make it open source and then legions of talented programmers will spring from the stone that they shelter under to avoid the heat of the commercial world and do it' . Being realistic and seeing the vast amount of work these people have provided us with so far you can appreciate I am not holding my breath here. What I will say it this. As one of the two people who are licensed to sell this I will listen to anyone who may want to make a serious attempt at writing new menu and sprite generators for Easypointer and I am willing to be the vector for anyone who would like to sell these programs. In the case of the sprite generator I am sure Jim will give you the info you need to make a converter to allow you to export sprites from his QDT Icon program. I also think this is an important project and should tackled so I am happy to support it any way possible (except that I cannot directly pay anyone to do it). If someone would like to do it for free they would be free to distribute it so long as they do not include any of the copyright Easypointer components. Contact me if you want to take up the challenge. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] ATTN: Roy Wood re my Subscription
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Roy, did you get my request to renew QL Toady 'in the usual fashion' - I sent it to sales*qbranch. Cheers, Norman. I did and a receipt is on it's way -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] movig sbasic
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wolfgang mühlegger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes sorry, my fault, it is part of easypointer. ... and also a part of PEX33 And that is horribly unstable. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, gwicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes - Original Message ----- From: "Roy wood" Subject: Re: [ql-users] movig sbasic Easyptr is still a commercial program sold by Jochen and I On the subject of EasyPtr any news of a possible upgrade? The upgrade situation is not easy. I do have an updated version of Easymenu and Easysprite but they are by no means releasable as Marcel considers them unfinished. The question is would there be a market for an updated version. Marcel does a lo of work on this kind of thing and gets little back for it. He has the source files but I cannot, in all honesty, ask him to work for nothing. He says that the code is not that easy to understand so he is the ideal person to do it. I would like to see and improved high colour version and I, for one, would be willing to pay for this. How many others? -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] movig sbasic
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Derek Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Hi, The command WMOV is part of Easy Pointer, in the file EASYPTR_CDE Not sure if Easy pointer is PD or still commerical. Easyptr is still a commercial program sold by Jochen and I -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] SERNET revisited
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, François Van Emelen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Wolfgang Lenerz schreef: No, SERNET has nothing to do with SMSQE. Wolfgang Yes, I know, but as a free Sernet comes with SMSQE I thought we would get the latest version of Sernet with each new version of SMSQE. It seems I was wrong about that. This would be a good idea but I never get any updates of it. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 sktpe : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] FDD help? (Was: Visit to Switzerland)
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, extdgl42 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I remember they never worked right. E.g. I have never been able to format (and previously could). I could take a disk full of files, delete one, and put my new file in, but not start fresh via format. John, Don, and Roy have all worked on my various tries at cabling, generic (or the old) boxes, etc. at various US shows. Roy even took the existing cable, took two pairs of four wires each and reversed them relative to each other. Things worked better in ways that again I don't remember, but never fully satisfactorily. Still couldn't format. There were a few versions of SMSQ/E for the Gold Card which had formatting problems. You had to issue direct instructions as to what the disk was such as FORMAT 'flp1_*D' for a DD disk and FORMAT 'flp1_*H' for an HD one That seems better in the later versions. Should not affect the native QL system though. Yes I did twist the cable because you had two flp2_ drives together. You twist lines 10, 11, and 12 counting from the line with the coloured stripe and by doing that you reverse the drive allocation. Making flp2_ turn into flp1_ so to speak. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] SERNET
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Phoebus Dokos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes The original LapLink software supported two port variants: Parallel and Serial. It also has two cable variants: That is true The first is a 25D-25D which is a PARALLEL and the second one (what Tony has) is a null modem Serial which came in 25D-25D (and later on as 9D-25D as well as 9D-9D.) The one in question was a serial laplink cable which had both 25 and 9 pin D connectors on each end. Designed to be used by computers with either kind of serial connection. It worked fine with Laplink. In the PC world however the world 'LapLink' routinely is identified with the Parallel Version (Also usable with the DOS licensed version of LapLink available from MS-DOS v.4.00 on to v.6.23) - BUT NOT PC-DOS. As a consequence asking for a LapLink cable you end up with a parallel cable which of course not only cannot work with the serial ports but can potentially damage your QL. But a moments real thought about this would lead to conclude that you cannot connect a parallel 'D' cable to a serial one because the parallel cables are male to male and the serial ones are female to female. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] SERNET
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Derek Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Hi Roy, All that is required is a standard Null Modem Lead, they work perfectly. Laplink cables do not work as you have stated. In fact all that is required is 5 lines. RX --- TX TX RX CTS--- RTS RTS -- CTS GND - GND I was going to build a little box that could connect up 4 Sernet computers, but never got around to it. Might make and bring it to the next show. This is exactly what we went through at the show. Tony should recall this because he kept saying that laplink cables would work when they did not. I think the serial connection cables from Lindy Electronics were also laplink ones but called something different. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: AW: [ql-users] Visit to Switzerland
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes > Anybody got relatives in North Wales (lonely being one of only 2 known > QLers in North Wales)? > > -- > Dilwyn Jones The only QLer in the village - for all you Little Britain fans. Can't imaging Dilwyn in those trousers though. Or, at least, I don't want to. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] SERNET
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 at 15:44:49, wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) If even the "experts" couldn't agree on the wiring of an Aurora port and cable, I see it as a pointless time wasting exercice even trying. They are std PC style ports and if a ribbon cable (10 way DIL IDC one end and 9D IDC plug the other) is plugged onto Aurora the right way round (easy to do wrongly on Qubbesoft boards), then an off the shelf laplink cable can be used. Actually we have been down this road before. Laplink cables do not work. There is one wire wrong - can't recall which one though. Apart from that there are two different cable wirings sold as 'standard' serial connections The laplink cable from CPC failed as did the Lindy Electronics one when we used them at Byfleet two years or so ago remember Tony? You then got a cable from Dilwyn and a couple of plugs from me and made one (which I still have) and that worked first time. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] My Documents
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 at 18:25:30, Malcolm Cadman wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) M$ did something called PC Power Tools sometime ago. Which may help you get control over the PC settings. The Tools are only what the ordinary enthusiast may expect. I emailed Dilwyn about using regedit. That is the most effective way, and quite safe for text changes like this. Actually it is even easier. Right Click the 'My Documents' folder - go to properties and change the link marked 'target' there. No need for any of the rest of it. Don't let Dilwyn into the registry!! -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] SERNET
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Phoebus Dokos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I have found an Aurora manual, and by golly, it -is- wired correctly. A straight through ribbon connector with IDC will give a standard PC type serial plug. To connect to another computer with PC like ports, it will need an additional laplink (crossover) cable. Exactly. My point was that there's NO reason whatsoever that a good quality cable wouldn't operate. I have tried many cables for my standard (Aurora board based ie. non-sH) serial ports, both ready from PC multi i/o's and ones that I either soldered or just pressed on. The common denominator on all of these was that sernet wouldn't work correctly above 9600 bps. Mind you PBOX, QTPI etc worked properly at 19.2 kbps as expected since I do have a sH ;-) (not broken anymore ;-) hehe) This is interesting because, when I bought my Aurora, long in the past, I was told you could not use a straight connection and it had to be soldered in a special way. I therefore bought them from Qubbesoft. I never challenged it. Even so you can still plug them in wrong - except of the few I have for sale which have the nice, bump oriented, headers because Natsa made them. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] SERNET
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Phoebus Dokos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:20:32 +0000,() Roy wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Without opening up the MinisQL, I can't remember if the IDC headers on the Aurora board are one way, or if the cable can be placed on the wrong way round, so screwing up the wiring. Yes they can and often are. Not necessarily. Depends on the version of the Aurora that you have. All proper Auroras have directional IDC headers, however most Qubbesoft ones as documented by Nasta many times were without the IDC jacket ergo the positioning problems Almost all the Auroras out there were made by Qubbesoft. I have a few here made by Nasta that have the correct IDC sockets but all the others did not have this. A lot of people got this wrong. Just to add to the problems they are not the usual, straight through, wiring so you cannot use one of the cables from a PC. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] SERNET
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Without opening up the MinisQL, I can't remember if the IDC headers on the Aurora board are one way, or if the cable can be placed on the wrong way round, so screwing up the wiring. Yes they can and often are. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Old games
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On the basis of Roy's email concerning PE and Toolkit 2, I've made the latest versions I have to hand available on the Toolkits page on my website. If Tony Tebby (or anyone else connected with these) is unhappy about my understanding of Roy's email, please let me know and I'll remove them immediately. Equally, as the latest TK2 ROM image I have is v2.12 which seems a bit old to me, any more recent updates could quickly be made available via this page. The manual for Toolkit 2 is also there (same version as on the documentation website). No I think this is fine. It was my intention when I asked Tony if we could make them freely distributable. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC2 v3.30
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 at 11:25:05, - Aucun - wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) Roy, You were tired yesterday, weren't you? we had an alcoholic government minister in the 70s called George Brown. Private Eye (a satirical mag and still going strong) coined the phrase 'tired and emotional' for his usual state. I am sure Roy was half way there (8-)# No I just misread the syntax of the original statement. I thought he was saying the opposite of what he actually was. If that makes any sense. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC2 v3.30
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wolfgang mühlegger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes If you mapped the qxl.win file on the other machine to be win6_ ,say you could then do: EX WIN6_myprog_exe no difference. I do this all the time here to wrong because it runs on the other machine! Oh no it doesn't. I just tested it. It runs on the machine that calls the code. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC2 v3.30
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wolfgang mühlegger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Roy wood schrieb: <---> 2 computers connected with ethernet, running QPC2 (at the moment it only works with 2) Not sure I understand the point here. If you have two machines running QPC2 and connected by ethernet why not just map the drives so they have a letter and then use that letter as one of the QXL.WIN files ? I have done it like this for ages. I believe Marcel has even made it possible no, it is not for two machines to access the same file although I have not tried it. well the point COULD be: EX "n1_*win1_myprog_exe" If you mapped the qxl.win file on the other machine to be win6_ ,say you could then do: EX WIN6_myprog_exe no difference. I do this all the time here to -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Gilpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes - Original Message - From: "Dilwyn Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers >>"Dear Mr Services," >> >>Tony >> > The counter clerk at the bank kept calling me 'Mr. Branch' so I > asked him if I could have a Branch Manager. Did he Twig what you were on about? JG Perhaps that was the root of the problem you went to the bank for in the first case?? Oak A, I think it's time to leaf it out now, buddy. Don't tangle with the pun meister! -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC2 v3.30
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wolfgang mühlegger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes P Witte schrieb: wolfgang mühlegger writes: P Witte schrieb: How do you make this work? marcel hacked sernet to work 'over udp' and it's working great! I think I got that part of your earlier message ;) What do you need to connect and how do you make it work? Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm what you need is ask marcel for the udprext.zip plus 2 computers connected with ethernet, running QPC2 (at the moment it only works with 2) Not sure I understand the point here. If you have two machines running QPC2 and connected by ethernet why not just map the drives so they have a letter and then use that letter as one of the QXL.WIN files ? I have done it like this for ages. I believe Marcel has even made it possible for two machines to access the same file although I have not tried it. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5 - User Guide available
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pål Monstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I have put the User Guide in a text file. Please visit: www.pm-data.no/dm5 to download. Thanks I will put a package together for PD release. Have we tempted you to come back and do some programming for us again now? We could do with some more programmers. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Is Here
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roy wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes QDT is now ready to be shipped ! Oops got the URLS wrong - long day http://smsq.j-m-s.com and http://www.qbranch.demon.co.uk/News.htm damn UNIX servers with there case sensitivity -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
