Re: [Ql-Users] QL System information
On 17/02/2011 08:14, Lee Privett wrote: Might want to take a gander at some QL add-ons from this site, makes interesting viewing, some of them I wouldn't mind getting but alas! http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk/museum/sinclair/ql/addons.php Lee snip The cognoscenti come up with useful information spread around, showing that there are a bewildering number of backplanes; how could a newcomer easily find this? I still don't know what sort of backplane the original enquiry, asking who would buy one, referred to. I must admit that this is an academic exercise, as I wouldn't expect to buy one anyway. Bryan ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL System information
On 18/02/2011 09:42, BryanHorstmann wrote: On 17/02/2011 08:14, Lee Privett wrote: Might want to take a gander at some QL add-ons from this site, makes interesting viewing, some of them I wouldn't mind getting but alas! http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk/museum/sinclair/ql/addons.php Lee snip The cognoscenti come up with useful information spread around, showing that there are a bewildering number of backplanes; how could a newcomer easily find this? I still don't know what sort of backplane the original enquiry, asking who would buy one, referred to. I must admit that this is an academic exercise, as I wouldn't expect to buy one anyway. Bryan ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Hi Bryan, I have updated the details on the hardware page on the QL Wiki as a result of this discussion yesterday, which should hopefully help newcomers - let me know if you have any comments (or feel free to add to the pages!) -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL System information
BryanHorstmann wrote, on 18/Feb/11 09:42 | Feb18: On 17/02/2011 08:14, Lee Privett wrote: Might want to take a gander at some QL add-ons from this site, makes interesting viewing, some of them I wouldn't mind getting but alas! http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk/museum/sinclair/ql/addons.php Lee snip The cognoscenti come up with useful information spread around, showing that there are a bewildering number of backplanes; how could a newcomer easily find this? I still don't know what sort of backplane the original enquiry, asking who would buy one, referred to. I must admit that this is an academic exercise, as I wouldn't expect to buy one anyway. There is really only one 'backplane' - a device that adds extra expansion plugs to the QLs expansion connector (sometimes called 'J1' as that is its label on QL circuit diagrams). Dave has not decided exactly what his backplane will look like. In all probability he will just build some Mplanes from component stock I have - http://tfs.firshman.co.uk/ql/mplane.htm Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL System information
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk wrote: BryanHorstmann wrote, on 18/Feb/11 09:42 | Feb18: On 17/02/2011 08:14, Lee Privett wrote: Might want to take a gander at some QL add-ons from this site, makes interesting viewing, some of them I wouldn't mind getting but alas! http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk/museum/sinclair/ql/addons.php Lee snip The cognoscenti come up with useful information spread around, showing that there are a bewildering number of backplanes; how could a newcomer easily find this? I still don't know what sort of backplane the original enquiry, asking who would buy one, referred to. I must admit that this is an academic exercise, as I wouldn't expect to buy one anyway. There is really only one 'backplane' - a device that adds extra expansion plugs to the QLs expansion connector (sometimes called 'J1' as that is its label on QL circuit diagrams). Dave has not decided exactly what his backplane will look like. In all probability he will just build some Mplanes from component stock I have - http://tfs.firshman.co.uk/ql/mplane.htm Well, yes, I do know what 'my' backplanes will look like. :) I looked at mine, and the other designs out there. There are two families of design: The riser, which stacks cards up above each other, and the low profile, which places cards side by side. It seems to me the side by side design would fit in most cases better, and it gives better access to the cards, while also allowing them to radiate and convect heat better. I think I would design something like the MPlane, but since I already have the offer to assemble the remainder, I think that's what I should do. Tony is offering me an exceptional courtesy and I would be foolish not to accept. It's a no-brainer ;) Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL System information
On 17/02/2011 10:04, Bryan Horstmann wrote: On 14/02/2011 09:19, Plastic wrote: snip This leads me towards wanting to make a considered and well formed appeal to people to release some of these machines back into the wild. Do you know a teenager who has an interest in old computers? Give them a QL and take them under your wing and show them the fun of the platform. Tell them if they don't fall in love with it, they can return it to you and it's all good. If everyone with an extra QL (beyond the necessary spare, of course) found one person to pass our passion on to, two things would happen: First, there would be HUNDREDS of new QL users, filled with enthusiasm, writing new software and making us feel old. Second, these people would want to buy software, add-ons, and new hardware, or if they're taken in by speed, they'll happily buy QPC2. This is good for everyone, all round. Dave Young folk will often be interested in games, which I cannot help with. I did have a contact from a chap who had re-visited Spectrum by way of emulator. He knew of the QL and wanted to find out more, but would probably rely on emulation. He took away a year's old Quanta to go through, but looking through one with me, he couldn't understand what was being referred to by name. Now, there have recently been enquiries who is interested in a backplane. I don't know what a backplane is, and QLwiki is no help; similarly for Aurora - what is it? We must ensure that beginners (and even long-time users like myself) can easily find out what is being talking about, without risking ridicule by asking. Bryan ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm A backplane is an expansion bus, allowing you to connect more than one peripheral to the QL - the problem is all in the terminology - search for QL-Bus on QL Wiki and you will see a picture of one. There is still lots of information to be added to QL Wiki - any volunteers to help ? -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL System information
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Bryan Horstmann b...@newlan.org wrote: On 17/02/2011 04:53, Bryan Horstmann wrote: snip Young folk will often be interested in games, which I cannot help with. I did have a contact from a chap who had re-visited Spectrum by way of emulator. He knew of the QL and wanted to find out more, but would probably rely on emulation. He took away a year's old Quanta to go through, but looking through one with me, he couldn't understand what was being referred to by name. Now, there have recently been enquiries who is interested in a backplane. I don't know what a backplane is, and QLwiki is no help; similarly for Aurora - what is it? We must ensure that beginners (and even long-time users like myself) can easily find out what is being talking about, without risking ridicule by asking. Bryan I'm sorry folk for the duplication; Thuderbird said earlier that it couldn't sent this, but it obviously did. It's fine, Bryan. Some comments are worth reading twice. Some old members of the community do return, but that will be an ever shrinking number - we do need new users. That said, we do not present ourselves very well. Old, expired websites in the 90s style. Dead links. The older hardware and software is not sometimes very inspiring. All things we can do something about. Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL System information
and here http://www.rwapadventures.com/ql_wiki/index.php?title=QPlane Lee ¦¦ Sent from my Laptop running XP but emulating the QL using QPC2 ¦¦ - Original Message - From: Rich Mellor To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL System information On 17/02/2011 10:04, Bryan Horstmann wrote: On 14/02/2011 09:19, Plastic wrote: snip This leads me towards wanting to make a considered and well formed appeal to people to release some of these machines back into the wild. Do you know a teenager who has an interest in old computers? Give them a QL and take them under your wing and show them the fun of the platform. Tell them if they don't fall in love with it, they can return it to you and it's all good. If everyone with an extra QL (beyond the necessary spare, of course) found one person to pass our passion on to, two things would happen: First, there would be HUNDREDS of new QL users, filled with enthusiasm, writing new software and making us feel old. Second, these people would want to buy software, add-ons, and new hardware, or if they're taken in by speed, they'll happily buy QPC2. This is good for everyone, all round. Dave Young folk will often be interested in games, which I cannot help with. I did have a contact from a chap who had re-visited Spectrum by way of emulator. He knew of the QL and wanted to find out more, but would probably rely on emulation. He took away a year's old Quanta to go through, but looking through one with me, he couldn't understand what was being referred to by name. Now, there have recently been enquiries who is interested in a backplane. I don't know what a backplane is, and QLwiki is no help; similarly for Aurora - what is it? We must ensure that beginners (and even long-time users like myself) can easily find out what is being talking about, without risking ridicule by asking. Bryan ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm A backplane is an expansion bus, allowing you to connect more than one peripheral to the QL - the problem is all in the terminology - search for QL-Bus on QL Wiki and you will see a picture of one. There is still lots of information to be added to QL Wiki - any volunteers to help ? -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL System information
Might want to take a gander at some QL add-ons from this site, makes interesting viewing, some of them I wouldn't mind getting but alas! http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk/museum/sinclair/ql/addons.php Lee ¦¦ Sent from my Laptop running XP but emulating the QL using QPC2 ¦¦ - Original Message - From: Dave Park To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL System information On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Bryan Horstmann b...@newlan.org wrote: On 17/02/2011 04:53, Bryan Horstmann wrote: snip Young folk will often be interested in games, which I cannot help with. I did have a contact from a chap who had re-visited Spectrum by way of emulator. He knew of the QL and wanted to find out more, but would probably rely on emulation. He took away a year's old Quanta to go through, but looking through one with me, he couldn't understand what was being referred to by name. Now, there have recently been enquiries who is interested in a backplane. I don't know what a backplane is, and QLwiki is no help; similarly for Aurora - what is it? We must ensure that beginners (and even long-time users like myself) can easily find out what is being talking about, without risking ridicule by asking. Bryan I'm sorry folk for the duplication; Thuderbird said earlier that it couldn't sent this, but it obviously did. It's fine, Bryan. Some comments are worth reading twice. Some old members of the community do return, but that will be an ever shrinking number - we do need new users. That said, we do not present ourselves very well. Old, expired websites in the 90s style. Dead links. The older hardware and software is not sometimes very inspiring. All things we can do something about. Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
