Re: [qmailtoaster] Heavy qmail queue pls help !!!

2007-01-31 Thread Quinn Comendant
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:33:24 +0300, Alexey Loukianov wrote:
 AFAIK, it chooses the LAST available interface on the system (the 
 last one ifconfig shows). This behavior is something I dislike and 
 I'm thinking about implementing a patch allowing manual selection of 
 outgoing IP/port pair to send a message from for qmail-rspawn.

We use iptables to set the source IP address for outgoing smtp traffic. It has 
happened before that we needed to change IP address if one becomes blacklisted.

iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p tcp -m --dport 25 -j SNAT --to-source 
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin has problem in scanning

2007-01-31 Thread ashok
Hi Erik,,

Can you pls help me in Fine Tuning openprotect [ MailScanner.conf ] , Bcoz I
feel openprotect is not using Spamassassin properly.

I have integrated FuzzyOCR - reffered below
https://www.maiamailguard.com/maia/wiki/FuzzyOCR23 

Then performed tests ...

Received a SPAM Mail which i viewed full hearders :-

From my Webmail :-

X-llocom-MailScanner-OpenProtect-SpamCheck: spam, SpamAssassin (score=9.772,
 required 6, MY_CID_AND_ARIAL2 0.65, MY_CID_AND_CLOSING 0.90,
 MY_CID_AND_STYLE 0.71, MY_CID_ARIAL2_CLOSING 1.25,
 MY_CID_ARIAL_STYLE 1.05, SARE_GIF_ATTACH 0.75, TW_AQ 0.08,
 TW_PR 0.08, TW_QR 0.08, TW_XU 0.08, TW_XX 0.08, TW_YP 0.08,
 URIBL_AB_SURBL 2.00, URIBL_SC_SURBL 2.00)

The same mail i manually scanned in server :-

spamassassin -t 
/home/vpopmail/domains/llo.com/ashok/Maildir/cur/1170237232.M9196P22383V
0902I001DFE2E.mail.ek.com\,S\=12554\:2\,

Content analysis details:   (15.1 points, 5.0 required)

 pts rule name  description
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 0.6 NO_REAL_NAME   From: does not include a real name
-0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS  SPF: HELO matches SPF record
-1.4 ALL_TRUSTEDPassed through trusted hosts only via SMTP
 1.0 HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28 BODY: HTML: images with 2400-2800 bytes of words
 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
 0.8 SARE_GIF_ATTACHFULL: Email has a inline gif
 1.1 URIBL_SBL  Contains an URL listed in the SBL blocklist
[URIs: qaqap.hk]
 3.3 URIBL_AB_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the AB SURBL blocklist
[URIs: qaqap.hk]
 3.6 URIBL_SC_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the SC SURBL blocklist
[URIs: qaqap.hk]
 1.2 MY_CID_ARIAL2_CLOSING  SARE cid arial2 closing
 1.1 MY_CID_ARIAL_STYLE SARE cid arial2 style
 0.9 MY_CID_AND_CLOSING SARE cid and closing
 0.7 MY_CID_AND_STYLE   SARE cid and style
 0.7 MY_CID_AND_ARIAL2  SARE CID and Arial2
 1.7 SARE_GIF_STOX  Inline Gif with little HTML

I See the same SPAM mail scores are different [ 9.772  15.1 ], Is this kind
okay ??  or do we need to tweak some thing ??

Pls suggest ...




 



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Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin has problem in scanning

I'm using OpenProtect on my QmailToaster. Works beautifully.

Erik

On 1/30/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ashok wrote:
 
  Dear Alexey,,

  I  did not install simscan-toaster bcoz it gave me some problems ,, So I
  have used openprotect with my qmail toaster.
 
  www.openprotect.com http://www.openprotect.com/   [ include SPAM +
  Virus filtering ] which can be easily integrated to qmail toaster.

 I'd be leery of straying this far from the stock toaster. What problem(s)
 did you have with simscan?

 I wouldn't expect much help with openprotect from this list. Does
 openprotect have a community for support?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin has problem in scanning

2007-01-31 Thread Quinn Comendant
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:31:43 -0800, Erik Espinoza wrote:
 Updated rules, catches more of the stock spam and what not.
 
 It's nice. Read up at http://saupdates.openprotect.com/

I think ashok means he installed OpenProtect's software package (a collection 
of programs that replaces simscan/spamassassin/clamav): 
http://www.openprotect.com/doc.html#download

This is different than OpenProtect's SpamAssassin sa-update channel, which I 
too use and is very nice, and is very compatible with all of QT's architecture 
(although I agree it shouldn't be configured by default in the QT).

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[qmailtoaster] SMTP-AUTH

2007-01-31 Thread Wojciech Gabor
I have two interfaces:
- 1.2.3.4 - incomming messages, rbl, calmav, spamassassin
- 1.2.3.5 - messages from our clients, no rbl and spamassassin but 
REQUIRE_AUTH=1

Mailes send to outer domains by 1.2.3.5 without authorization are blocked 
with message client not allowed to relay and it's OK.
But mails send to my domain are delivered and it's not OK because spam is 
incoming to client mailboxes. How block all messages but authorized?
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] spamhaus - what do you think?

2007-01-31 Thread Jake Vickers

Erik Espinoza wrote:

http://www.corpit.ru/mjt/rbldnsd.html

On 1/30/07, Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Eric Shubes wrote:
 Jake Vickers wrote:


 Do you guys think a wiki page should be started so we can all help each
other out to find a good mix to replace zen?

 I'd like to see some collaboration on RBLs in general. I suppose we 
could

use the wiki in addition to this list.


 At this point I'd even be amicable to running a BL, so that it fit MY
needs; it would be nice if it fit other people's needs as well.
 I took a quick peek on the 'net, but couldn't find anything that had 
any
example scripts/submission pages to run your own BL. Guess I'll look 
some

more later, but I'll probably end up just going with a new set of BLs to
filter my connections.


Thanks for that. I searched and couldn't find anything useful!


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[qmailtoaster] BATV and CHKUSER

2007-01-31 Thread David Sánchez Martín
Hi:

Apparently, our toaster doesn't work well with BATV
http://mipassoc.org/batv/draft-levine-batv-03.html

BATV is used basically for avoiding fake bounces.

The sending SMTP server rewrites the mail from like this:

MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

to

MAIL FROM: prvs=fred/[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Being 3423434 a cryptocraphically generated sign.

When bounce returns, the server checks that sign and if it doesn't mach,
discards it.


I've received some complaints of some sysadmin that use this scheme, not
being able to send mails to my toaster

Some clues?



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Re: [qmailtoaster] SMTP-AUTH

2007-01-31 Thread Jean-Paul van de Plasse
A small error in the run file of the submission port makes this port open 
for all!

The line reads REQUIRE_AUTH=1, but this should be export REQUIRE_AUTH=1
Otherwise it will not be available in the qmail-smtpd

Hopefully this can be fixed soon..

For all using submission:
For now a manual fix is easy, just edit the 
/var/qmail/supervise/submission/run file and change that line.


JP

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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:19 PM
Subject: [qmailtoaster] SMTP-AUTH


I have two interfaces:
- 1.2.3.4 - incomming messages, rbl, calmav, spamassassin
- 1.2.3.5 - messages from our clients, no rbl and spamassassin but
REQUIRE_AUTH=1

Mailes send to outer domains by 1.2.3.5 without authorization are blocked
with message client not allowed to relay and it's OK.
But mails send to my domain are delivered and it's not OK because spam is
incoming to client mailboxes. How block all messages but authorized?

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[qmailtoaster] UPDATE qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.13.src.rpm URGENT

2007-01-31 Thread Jean-Paul van de Plasse
Hi,

This release fixes a mistake in the run script for the submission port.

I suggest everyone using the submission port to upgrade asap to this release.

Or to manualy change the run script by changing the line 
REQUIRE_AUTH=1
to
export REQUIRE_AUTH=1

For now you can download the new rpm at : 
http://iserve01.i-serve.net/qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.13.src.rpm

JP

Re: [qmailtoaster] SMTP-AUTH

2007-01-31 Thread Wojciech Gabor
Dnia środa, 31 stycznia 2007 14:22, Jean-Paul van de Plasse napisał:
 A small error in the run file of the submission port makes this port open
 for all!
 The line reads REQUIRE_AUTH=1, but this should be export REQUIRE_AUTH=1
 Otherwise it will not be available in the qmail-smtpd

 Hopefully this can be fixed soon..

 For all using submission:
 For now a manual fix is easy, just edit the
 /var/qmail/supervise/submission/run file and change that line.

I've looked sources before send message to the list. I've make this fix 
but it not fix problem.
I think that problem is in 

require_auth is set in 
code
x = env_get(REQUIRE_AUTH);
if(x) { scan_ulong(x,u); if (u0) require_auth = 1; }
/code
but what is u ? when u0

code
if (require_auth) if (!flagauth) { err_authfirst(); return; }
/code
When flagauth is set?

 I have two interfaces:
 - 1.2.3.4 - incomming messages, rbl, calmav, spamassassin
 - 1.2.3.5 - messages from our clients, no rbl and spamassassin but
 REQUIRE_AUTH=1

 Mailes send to outer domains by 1.2.3.5 without authorization are blocked
 with message client not allowed to relay and it's OK.
 But mails send to my domain are delivered and it's not OK because spam
 is incoming to client mailboxes. How block all messages but authorized?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] SMTP-AUTH

2007-01-31 Thread Jean-Paul van de Plasse
You really only have to change your run script. (don't forget to restart 
your toaster)


The c-code works, thats for sure.

u is the result of the scan_ulong, and if it return  0 require_auth 
becomes 1.

flagauth is set when a user is authenticated (no use todo it 2 times).

JP


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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] SMTP-AUTH


Dnia środa, 31 stycznia 2007 14:22, Jean-Paul van de Plasse napisał:

A small error in the run file of the submission port makes this port open
for all!
The line reads REQUIRE_AUTH=1, but this should be export REQUIRE_AUTH=1
Otherwise it will not be available in the qmail-smtpd

Hopefully this can be fixed soon..

For all using submission:
For now a manual fix is easy, just edit the
/var/qmail/supervise/submission/run file and change that line.


I've looked sources before send message to the list. I've make this fix
but it not fix problem.
I think that problem is in

require_auth is set in
code
x = env_get(REQUIRE_AUTH);
if(x) { scan_ulong(x,u); if (u0) require_auth = 1; }
/code
but what is u ? when u0

code
if (require_auth) if (!flagauth) { err_authfirst(); return; }
/code
When flagauth is set?


I have two interfaces:
- 1.2.3.4 - incomming messages, rbl, calmav, spamassassin
- 1.2.3.5 - messages from our clients, no rbl and spamassassin but
REQUIRE_AUTH=1

Mailes send to outer domains by 1.2.3.5 without authorization are blocked
with message client not allowed to relay and it's OK.
But mails send to my domain are delivered and it's not OK because spam
is incoming to client mailboxes. How block all messages but authorized?


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RE: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin has problem in scanning

2007-01-31 Thread ashok
Yeah exactly my frnd...  

QT can make it as an Add-on package improve it and publish further.

Bcoz as of now with this package I have reduces 90% of SPAM mails.

Also I implemented FuzzyOCR for blocking IMAGE SPAM.

http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/image_spam_fc5.html  hope it helps
someone who need to implement it.:)

Regards
ashok



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From: Quinn Comendant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:16 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin has problem in scanning

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:31:43 -0800, Erik Espinoza wrote:
 Updated rules, catches more of the stock spam and what not.
 
 It's nice. Read up at http://saupdates.openprotect.com/

I think ashok means he installed OpenProtect's software package (a
collection of programs that replaces simscan/spamassassin/clamav):
http://www.openprotect.com/doc.html#download

This is different than OpenProtect's SpamAssassin sa-update channel, which I
too use and is very nice, and is very compatible with all of QT's
architecture (although I agree it shouldn't be configured by default in the
QT).

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Re: [qmailtoaster] BATV and CHKUSER

2007-01-31 Thread Eric \Shubes\
David Sánchez Martín wrote:
 Hi:
 
 Apparently, our toaster doesn't work well with BATV
 http://mipassoc.org/batv/draft-levine-batv-03.html
 
 BATV is used basically for avoiding fake bounces.
 
 The sending SMTP server rewrites the mail from like this:
 
 MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 to
 
 MAIL FROM: prvs=fred/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Being 3423434 a cryptocraphically generated sign.
 
 When bounce returns, the server checks that sign and if it doesn't mach,
 discards it.
 
 
 I've received some complaints of some sysadmin that use this scheme, not
 being able to send mails to my toaster
 
 Some clues?
 

I'm guessing that CHKUSER is rejecting it due to the '/'. I don't see where
a '/' is introduced into the MailFrom according to the BATV spec, but it's
possible that I'm missing something there.

If this is indeed your problem, you'll need to tell CHKUSER that '/' is
allowed. You'll need to unomment CHKUSER_ALLOW_SENDER_CHAR_3 in
chkuser_settings.h and specify the '/' value there. For instructions on how
to modify chkuser_settings.h, see http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Chkuser

Let us know how you make out. If a '/' is now valid, the stock toaster might
need to be changed.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Switching from pop3 to IMAP and how to backup e.mails archives

2007-01-31 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Massimiliano Fontana wrote:
 Hi there !
 I'm about to switch my 50 users-single domain from  pop3 to IMAP4 .
 Now all desktops ( Xp os with Outlook 2003 ) have their .pst files on a
 server shared folder . This solution works but now I'd prefer to have
 all e-mails resident on server plus giving my users the option to
 replicate their database on local client hard disk (local pst file).
 Now the question is : how do I move all the e-mails from their pst files
 to new IMAP folders?
 In order to have a recoverable backup , is it enough to backup , let's
 say , daily , /home/vpopmail ?
 Many many thanks
 Max
 Italy
 
I don't know the answer to your question for sure, but I think that would do it.

I've been (slowly) migrating a few accounts from pop3 to imap too. From what
I've seen on the internet though, I'm leery to use Outlook as an IMAP client
with Courier. I hear that Outlook does well with Exchange (to be expected),
but there have been problems getting it to work well with other IMAP
servers. I don't recall any specifics, and YMMV depending on the Outlook
version. I'd recommend doing a prototype test with it though before
committing to a domain-wide change.

What benefit are you trying to achieve? Are there roaming users who need to
access their email outside of the office? If so, they could continue to use
pop3 and simply leave the email on the server for a period of time
(configured in Outlook).

Please let us know how you make out.
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[qmailtoaster] one question

2007-01-31 Thread Daniel R. Hdez
Hi,

Exist any program that permit conect to mail server by httpmail with the client 
aoutlook, like to hotmail.

Thanks

Re[2]: [qmailtoaster] Heavy qmail queue pls help !!!

2007-01-31 Thread Alexey Loukianov
Greetings, Quinn.

31 января 2007 г., 13:16:20 you have wrote:

 On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:33:24 +0300, Alexey Loukianov wrote:
 AFAIK, it chooses the LAST available interface on the system (the 
 last one ifconfig shows). This behavior is something I dislike and 
 I'm thinking about implementing a patch allowing manual selection of 
 outgoing IP/port pair to send a message from for qmail-rspawn.

 We use iptables to set the source IP address for outgoing smtp
 traffic. It has happened before that we needed to change IP address if one 
 becomes blacklisted.

 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p tcp -m --dport 25 -j SNAT --to-source 
 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

That's ok, if all of your traffic is of the same 'type'.
Sometimes it's required to generate mail traffic from one host serving
different purposes. Good example from real life are out corporate
mailing list servers. Their mail queue rarely gets lower that 10
mails in it, resulting in relatively slow message delivery (it takes
long enough for qmail-send to check up status of all the messages in
queue). But it required for us to have some of the messages in queue
to be delivered ASAP - most notably this are urgent messages for root
about errors in Cron jobs, or notifications from Nagios-like services.

Best approach in this case is to fork another QT installation, placed
let's say in /var/qmaillist, that is only serving outgoing mailing
lists. Then, I need to route mail traffic for these two instances of
QT differently, which can only be done on router/firewall if outgoing
mail traffic gets sent from different IPs on the same server.
ATM there's no way in qmail-send to specify which interface to use.
That's what brings me into thinking about implementing a patch for
this task.

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[qmailtoaster] rebuild tcp

2007-01-31 Thread Dan Page
I've made changes to my tcp.smtp file,

after a restart the setting don't seem to take.

Do i need to rebuild the .cdb?  
if so what is the command? 

Thanks for all the help and great toaster product.

Dan




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RE: [qmailtoaster] BATV and CHKUSER

2007-01-31 Thread David Sánchez Martín

I'm guessing that CHKUSER is rejecting it due to the '/'. I don't see where
a '/' is introduced into the MailFrom according to the BATV spec, but it's
possible that I'm missing something there.

If this is indeed your problem, you'll need to tell CHKUSER that '/' is
allowed. You'll need to unomment CHKUSER_ALLOW_SENDER_CHAR_3 in
chkuser_settings.h and specify the '/' value there. For instructions on how
to modify chkuser_settings.h, see
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Chkuser

Let us know how you make out. If a '/' is now valid, the stock toaster
might
need to be changed.


Hi Eric:

I simply disable sender checking, adding SENDER_NOCHECK= in tcp.smtp and
then qmailctl cdb

I do not see any advantages, and many inconveniences, in checking sender's
address format.

Maybe i'm missing something :-S

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Re: [qmailtoaster] rebuild tcp

2007-01-31 Thread Alexey Loukianov
Greetings, Dan.

31 января 2007 г., 20:52:49 you have wrote:

 I've made changes to my tcp.smtp file,

 after a restart the setting don't seem to take.

 Do i need to rebuild the .cdb?  
 if so what is the command? 

Yes. You need to issue:
# qmailctl cdb

There's no need in restarting qmail completely, cdb gets read each
time new SMTP connection arise.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] one question

2007-01-31 Thread Alexey Loukianov
Greetings, Daniel.

31 ?? 2007 ?., 20:49:41 you have wrote:
 Exist any program that permit conect to mail server  by httpmail
 with the client aoutlook, like to hotmail.

You know, your question is a bit unrelated to QmailToaster, so I think
that you will not get any valuable answer here.

Well, who knows...

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Re: [qmailtoaster] BATV and CHKUSER

2007-01-31 Thread Alexey Loukianov
Greetings, David.

31 ?? 2007 ?., 16:17:48 you have wrote:
 I've received some complaints of some sysadmin that use this scheme, not
 being able to send mails to my toaster

 Some clues?

Check up logs for rejections due to bad mailfrom, coming from IP of
those servers admins were complaining about. Try to send a message
with mail from address containing forward slash sign (/) to your
QT yourself, check if it works.

Basically, characters like dot and slashes are not allowed in QT due
to they are so-called directory and path related characters. It
might be safe to enable them for mail from: and mail to: addressed
for incoming and outgoing messages respectively, but to be sure in it
we need to do total QT codebase audit, which is a very big deal, and
thus is not possible ATM.

To enable / for mail from addresses you will have to modify chkuser
sources and recompile it. Search this list archives for precise instructions
how to do it.

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Re[2]: [qmailtoaster] How do you suspend an email box or several email boxes?

2007-01-31 Thread Alexey Loukianov
Greetings, Erik.

31 ?? 2007 ?., 6:36:55 you have wrote:
 How do you suspend an email box or several email boxes?

 Change their passwords.


Also, this might be helpfull:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] qmail-dk]# ~vpopmail/bin/vmoduser --help
/home/vpopmail/bin/vmoduser: invalid option -- -
vmoduser: usage: [options] email_addr or domain (for each user in domain)
options: -v ( display the vpopmail version number )
 -n ( don't rebuild the vpasswd.cdb file )
 -q quota ( set quota )
 -c comment (set the comment/gecos field )
 -e encrypted_passwd (set the password field )
 -C clear_text_passwd (set the password field )
the following options are bit flags in the gid int field
 -x ( clear all flags )
 -d ( don't allow user to change password )
 -p ( disable POP access )
 -s ( disable SMTP AUTH access )
 -w ( disable webmail [IMAP from localhost*] access )
( * full list of webmail server IPs in vchkpw.c )
 -i ( disable non-webmail IMAP access )
 -b ( bounce all mail )
 -o ( user is not subject to domain limits )
 -r ( disable roaming user/pop-before-smtp )
 -a ( grant qmailadmin administrator privileges)
 -S ( system administrator privileges - access all domains )
 -E ( expert privileges - edit .qmail files )
  [The following flags aren't used directly by vpopmail, but are]
  [included for other programs that share the user database.]
 -u ( set no dialup flag )
 -0 ( set V_USER0 flag )
 -1 ( set V_USER1 flag )
 -2 ( set V_USER2 flag )
 -3 ( set V_USER3 flag )
 -f ( disable spamassassin)
 -F ( delete spam)


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Re[2]: [qmailtoaster] Controlling SMTP access to mail server.

2007-01-31 Thread Alexey Loukianov
Greetings, Erik.

31 ?? 2007 ?., 6:02:20 you have wrote:
 Separate tcprules file for submission port seems to me as a better
 approach. It keeps administration of QT flexible and unified, and also
 it is more cross-platforming way, as tcpserver works on any platform
 qmail can run on, while iptables is available only on linux systems
 based on kernels 2.4.x and later.

 Who cares? We don't even support Debian. . . :)

Me, for example ;-D. A friend of mine, also a system engineer,
administer small FreeBSD based cluster, and he uses QT in his setup.
Accordingly to his words, it wasn't too hard to build and install RPM
system on his BSD boxes, and then to correct specs so basic QT parts
builds up and install successfully.

Well, in any case we can always create tcp.submission ourselves, just
like I do it for tcp.pop3 ;-D. But the laziness of sysadmin is the
thing that makes me want tcp.submission to be included in stock
toaster.

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[qmailtoaster] possible inclusion in toaster

2007-01-31 Thread Dan Page
Hello guys.  

I've built a few toasters over the last year. I love the process, quick
and painless (at least till you need to modify spam settigns), anyway.
For the most part most people use a stock rpm based *nix and throw in
the toaster, which is what I do as well.  the only software I add is a
small program called denyhosts.  this thing is a real lifesaver.  Before
using it I was getting upwards of 4000 break in attempts through ssh.
now I'm down to a handful a day.  It's easy enough to install but maybe
you wanna think about including it?  I know this will be just 1 more
thing to support, but it seems my mail servers get hit much harder on
ssh then my other servers.  If not included maybe add it on the wiki, or
related product page. Just my 2 cents.  

Dan Page

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Controlling SMTP access to mail server.

2007-01-31 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Alexey Loukianov wrote:
 Greetings, Erik.
 
 31 ?? 2007 ?., 6:02:20 you have wrote:
 Separate tcprules file for submission port seems to me as a better
 approach. It keeps administration of QT flexible and unified, and also
 it is more cross-platforming way, as tcpserver works on any platform
 qmail can run on, while iptables is available only on linux systems
 based on kernels 2.4.x and later.
 
 Who cares? We don't even support Debian. . . :)
 
 Me, for example ;-D. A friend of mine, also a system engineer,
 administer small FreeBSD based cluster, and he uses QT in his setup.
 Accordingly to his words, it wasn't too hard to build and install RPM
 system on his BSD boxes, and then to correct specs so basic QT parts
 builds up and install successfully.
 
 Well, in any case we can always create tcp.submission ourselves, just
 like I do it for tcp.pop3 ;-D. But the laziness of sysadmin is the
 thing that makes me want tcp.submission to be included in stock
 toaster.
 
I agree with Alexey on this. Besides which, wouldn't it be nice to have QT
on BSD as well? I wonder if Alexey's friend would care to contribute in this
area.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] possible inclusion in toaster

2007-01-31 Thread Alexey Loukianov
Greetings, Dan.

31 января 2007 г., 21:54:03 you have wrote:

 Hello guys.  

 I've built a few toasters over the last year. I love the process, quick
 and painless (at least till you need to modify spam settigns), anyway.
 For the most part most people use a stock rpm based *nix and throw in
 the toaster, which is what I do as well.  the only software I add is a
 small program called denyhosts.  this thing is a real lifesaver.  Before
 using it I was getting upwards of 4000 break in attempts through ssh.
 now I'm down to a handful a day.  It's easy enough to install but maybe
 you wanna think about including it?  I know this will be just 1 more
 thing to support, but it seems my mail servers get hit much harder on
 ssh then my other servers.  If not included maybe add it on the wiki, or
 related product page. Just my 2 cents.  

Don't think that it's worth including in QT, as a can barely see the
relation between normal administration tasks for server (like
preventing intrusion) and the maintenance of qmail toaster codebase.

Hadn't you tried to place your mail servers behind firewall/router
box in DMZ, and to restrict connections to SSH only for internal
subnet? Also, as a general measure, it is always wise to use other
that standard 22 port for SSH, and to permit root plain text passord
logins over it.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] possible inclusion in toaster

2007-01-31 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Dan Page wrote:
 Hello guys.  
 
 I've built a few toasters over the last year. I love the process, quick
 and painless (at least till you need to modify spam settigns), anyway.
 For the most part most people use a stock rpm based *nix and throw in
 the toaster, which is what I do as well.  the only software I add is a
 small program called denyhosts.  this thing is a real lifesaver.  Before
 using it I was getting upwards of 4000 break in attempts through ssh.
 now I'm down to a handful a day.  It's easy enough to install but maybe
 you wanna think about including it?  I know this will be just 1 more
 thing to support, but it seems my mail servers get hit much harder on
 ssh then my other servers.  If not included maybe add it on the wiki, or
 related product page. Just my 2 cents.  
 
 Dan Page
 
 P.S.  There are already rpm's of the package at:
 http://dag.wieers.com/packages/denyhosts/
 
 
I suppose it's easy enough to yum.
Being a noarch script, I could include it in the qmailtoaster-plus package.
I think it might fit well there.
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Re: Re[2]: [qmailtoaster] Controlling SMTP access to mail server.

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

A BSD admin that can take qmailtoaster and make it run on BSD can
implmenet a firewall policy using ipf.

I don't think having two tcp.smtp's is going to help, it doesn't seem
to solve any problems we are having.


Erik

On 1/31/07, Alexey Loukianov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Greetings, Eric.

31 января 2007 г., 22:05:38 you have wrote:

 Alexey Loukianov wrote:
 Greetings, Erik.

 31 ?? 2007 ?., 6:02:20 you have wrote:
 Separate tcprules file for submission port seems to me as a better
 approach. It keeps administration of QT flexible and unified, and also
 it is more cross-platforming way, as tcpserver works on any platform
 qmail can run on, while iptables is available only on linux systems
 based on kernels 2.4.x and later.

 Who cares? We don't even support Debian. . . :)

 Me, for example ;-D. A friend of mine, also a system engineer,
 administer small FreeBSD based cluster, and he uses QT in his setup.
 Accordingly to his words, it wasn't too hard to build and install RPM
 system on his BSD boxes, and then to correct specs so basic QT parts
 builds up and install successfully.

 Well, in any case we can always create tcp.submission ourselves, just
 like I do it for tcp.pop3 ;-D. But the laziness of sysadmin is the
 thing that makes me want tcp.submission to be included in stock
 toaster.

 I agree with Alexey on this. Besides which, wouldn't it be nice to have QT
 on BSD as well? I wonder if Alexey's friend would care to contribute in this
 area.

It is not so easy, as BSD way is not to use RPMS, while main toaster
advantage is it's RPM nature. A friend of mine came to BSD world from
RedHad based linux distros, that is why he uses RPM even on BSD - it
is just a matter of habbit.

Well, it is still possible to port QT on BSD and distribute is as a
bunch of tarballs if we will find some BSD geek who will want to
maintenance it. But I don't think it is a urgent task for qt-dev team
;-D.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] possible inclusion in toaster

2007-01-31 Thread Dan Page
DMZ, *scoff* real men (er administrators) don't need fancy firewalls,
iptables and some magic is good enough.  But really this program is
great, I use it on all our linux servers. It works on BSD macOS X and
Debian (probably more but these are all I've access too).   anyway, I'm
not gonna press the issue, but anyway it works great with toaster. 

Dan  

On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 22:14 +0300, Alexey Loukianov wrote:
 Greetings, Dan.
 
 31 января 2007 г., 21:54:03 you have wrote:
 
  Hello guys.  
 
  I've built a few toasters over the last year. I love the process, quick
  and painless (at least till you need to modify spam settigns), anyway.
  For the most part most people use a stock rpm based *nix and throw in
  the toaster, which is what I do as well.  the only software I add is a
  small program called denyhosts.  this thing is a real lifesaver.  Before
  using it I was getting upwards of 4000 break in attempts through ssh.
  now I'm down to a handful a day.  It's easy enough to install but maybe
  you wanna think about including it?  I know this will be just 1 more
  thing to support, but it seems my mail servers get hit much harder on
  ssh then my other servers.  If not included maybe add it on the wiki, or
  related product page. Just my 2 cents.  
 
 Don't think that it's worth including in QT, as a can barely see the
 relation between normal administration tasks for server (like
 preventing intrusion) and the maintenance of qmail toaster codebase.
 
 Hadn't you tried to place your mail servers behind firewall/router
 box in DMZ, and to restrict connections to SSH only for internal
 subnet? Also, as a general measure, it is always wise to use other
 that standard 22 port for SSH, and to permit root plain text passord
 logins over it.
 
 


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Re: [qmailtoaster] BATV and CHKUSER

2007-01-31 Thread Eric \Shubes\
David Sánchez Martín wrote:
 I'm guessing that CHKUSER is rejecting it due to the '/'. I don't see where
 a '/' is introduced into the MailFrom according to the BATV spec, but it's
 possible that I'm missing something there.

 If this is indeed your problem, you'll need to tell CHKUSER that '/' is
 allowed. You'll need to unomment CHKUSER_ALLOW_SENDER_CHAR_3 in
 chkuser_settings.h and specify the '/' value there. For instructions on how
 to modify chkuser_settings.h, see
 http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Chkuser
 Let us know how you make out. If a '/' is now valid, the stock toaster
 might
 need to be changed.

 
 Hi Eric:
 
 I simply disable sender checking, adding SENDER_NOCHECK= in tcp.smtp and
 then qmailctl cdb
 
 I do not see any advantages, and many inconveniences, in checking sender's
 address format.
 
 Maybe i'm missing something :-S
 

The chkuser web page says:
This define enable usage of a variable excluding any check on the sender.
The variable should be set in tcp.smtp for known clients, with static IP,
whose mailer is composing bad sender addresses

From what I can tell, SENDER_MX will not be checked either. Might not be a
big deal for you.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] possible inclusion in toaster

2007-01-31 Thread Warren (mailing lists)

Dan Page wrote:
Hello guys.  


I've built a few toasters over the last year. I love the process, quick
and painless (at least till you need to modify spam settigns), anyway.
For the most part most people use a stock rpm based *nix and throw in
the toaster, which is what I do as well.  the only software I add is a
small program called denyhosts.  this thing is a real lifesaver.  Before
using it I was getting upwards of 4000 break in attempts through ssh.
now I'm down to a handful a day.  It's easy enough to install but maybe
you wanna think about including it?  I know this will be just 1 more
thing to support, but it seems my mail servers get hit much harder on
ssh then my other servers.  If not included maybe add it on the wiki, or
related product page. Just my 2 cents.  


Dan Page

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I just change my ssh port.  That stops most all of the breakin attempts. 
 Set the new port in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and change the firewall 
script /etc/sysconfig/iptables to match.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Controlling SMTP access to mail server.

2007-01-31 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Problem: controlling/configuring smtp and submission independently is
difficult, if not impossible.

Is there are reason why there *shouldn't* be separate tcprules files? I see
no advantage to having them share the same one.

Erik Espinoza wrote:
 A BSD admin that can take qmailtoaster and make it run on BSD can
 implmenet a firewall policy using ipf.
 
 I don't think having two tcp.smtp's is going to help, it doesn't seem
 to solve any problems we are having.
 
 
 Erik
 
 On 1/31/07, Alexey Loukianov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings, Eric.

 31 января 2007 г., 22:05:38 you have wrote:

  Alexey Loukianov wrote:
  Greetings, Erik.
 
  31 ?? 2007 ?., 6:02:20 you have wrote:
  Separate tcprules file for submission port seems to me as a better
  approach. It keeps administration of QT flexible and unified, and
 also
  it is more cross-platforming way, as tcpserver works on any platform
  qmail can run on, while iptables is available only on linux systems
  based on kernels 2.4.x and later.
 
  Who cares? We don't even support Debian. . . :)
 
  Me, for example ;-D. A friend of mine, also a system engineer,
  administer small FreeBSD based cluster, and he uses QT in his setup.
  Accordingly to his words, it wasn't too hard to build and install RPM
  system on his BSD boxes, and then to correct specs so basic QT parts
  builds up and install successfully.
 
  Well, in any case we can always create tcp.submission ourselves, just
  like I do it for tcp.pop3 ;-D. But the laziness of sysadmin is the
  thing that makes me want tcp.submission to be included in stock
  toaster.
 
  I agree with Alexey on this. Besides which, wouldn't it be nice to
 have QT
  on BSD as well? I wonder if Alexey's friend would care to contribute
 in this
  area.

 It is not so easy, as BSD way is not to use RPMS, while main toaster
 advantage is it's RPM nature. A friend of mine came to BSD world from
 RedHad based linux distros, that is why he uses RPM even on BSD - it
 is just a matter of habbit.

 Well, it is still possible to port QT on BSD and distribute is as a
 bunch of tarballs if we will find some BSD geek who will want to
 maintenance it. But I don't think it is a urgent task for qt-dev team
 ;-D.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] rebuild tcp

2007-01-31 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Peter Peltonen wrote:
 BTW: When running the command one get's the following output:
 
 Reloaded /etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp
 Reloaded /var/qmail/control/badmimetypes.cdb
 Reloaded /var/qmail/control/badloadertypes.cdb
 Reloaded /var/qmail/control/simversions.cdb
 Reloaded /var/qmail/control/simcontrol.cdb
 
 Is there a typo at the first line -- shouldn't it be:
 
 Reloaded /etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp.cdb
 
 ?
 
Yep. You can edit /usr/bin/qmailctl if you'd like. ;)

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Controlling SMTP access to mail server.

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

ES, port 587 is all about SMTP-AUTH, meaning that tcprules shouldn't
really matter as it's all done through auth. Port 25 doesn't require
auth, therefore it would need independent control.

What possible scenario would we need to control port 587 independently
of port 25 and why?

This seems like unnecessary complication, with no pay off at all.

Erik

On 1/31/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Problem: controlling/configuring smtp and submission independently is
difficult, if not impossible.

Is there are reason why there *shouldn't* be separate tcprules files? I see
no advantage to having them share the same one.

Erik Espinoza wrote:
 A BSD admin that can take qmailtoaster and make it run on BSD can
 implmenet a firewall policy using ipf.

 I don't think having two tcp.smtp's is going to help, it doesn't seem
 to solve any problems we are having.


 Erik

 On 1/31/07, Alexey Loukianov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings, Eric.

 31 января 2007 г., 22:05:38 you have wrote:

  Alexey Loukianov wrote:
  Greetings, Erik.
 
  31 ?? 2007 ?., 6:02:20 you have wrote:
  Separate tcprules file for submission port seems to me as a better
  approach. It keeps administration of QT flexible and unified, and
 also
  it is more cross-platforming way, as tcpserver works on any platform
  qmail can run on, while iptables is available only on linux systems
  based on kernels 2.4.x and later.
 
  Who cares? We don't even support Debian. . . :)
 
  Me, for example ;-D. A friend of mine, also a system engineer,
  administer small FreeBSD based cluster, and he uses QT in his setup.
  Accordingly to his words, it wasn't too hard to build and install RPM
  system on his BSD boxes, and then to correct specs so basic QT parts
  builds up and install successfully.
 
  Well, in any case we can always create tcp.submission ourselves, just
  like I do it for tcp.pop3 ;-D. But the laziness of sysadmin is the
  thing that makes me want tcp.submission to be included in stock
  toaster.
 
  I agree with Alexey on this. Besides which, wouldn't it be nice to
 have QT
  on BSD as well? I wonder if Alexey's friend would care to contribute
 in this
  area.

 It is not so easy, as BSD way is not to use RPMS, while main toaster
 advantage is it's RPM nature. A friend of mine came to BSD world from
 RedHad based linux distros, that is why he uses RPM even on BSD - it
 is just a matter of habbit.

 Well, it is still possible to port QT on BSD and distribute is as a
 bunch of tarballs if we will find some BSD geek who will want to
 maintenance it. But I don't think it is a urgent task for qt-dev team
 ;-D.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] SMTP-AUTH

2007-01-31 Thread Jean-Paul van de Plasse

Any news on this?
I am curious if it works correctly for you now.

JP

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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] SMTP-AUTH


You really only have to change your run script. (don't forget to restart 
your toaster)


The c-code works, thats for sure.

u is the result of the scan_ulong, and if it return  0 require_auth 
becomes 1.

flagauth is set when a user is authenticated (no use todo it 2 times).

JP


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Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] SMTP-AUTH


Dnia środa, 31 stycznia 2007 14:22, Jean-Paul van de Plasse napisał:

A small error in the run file of the submission port makes this port open
for all!
The line reads REQUIRE_AUTH=1, but this should be export REQUIRE_AUTH=1
Otherwise it will not be available in the qmail-smtpd

Hopefully this can be fixed soon..

For all using submission:
For now a manual fix is easy, just edit the
/var/qmail/supervise/submission/run file and change that line.


I've looked sources before send message to the list. I've make this fix
but it not fix problem.
I think that problem is in

require_auth is set in
code
x = env_get(REQUIRE_AUTH);
if(x) { scan_ulong(x,u); if (u0) require_auth = 1; }
/code
but what is u ? when u0

code
if (require_auth) if (!flagauth) { err_authfirst(); return; }
/code
When flagauth is set?


I have two interfaces:
- 1.2.3.4 - incomming messages, rbl, calmav, spamassassin
- 1.2.3.5 - messages from our clients, no rbl and spamassassin but
REQUIRE_AUTH=1

Mailes send to outer domains by 1.2.3.5 without authorization are blocked
with message client not allowed to relay and it's OK.
But mails send to my domain are delivered and it's not OK because spam
is incoming to client mailboxes. How block all messages but authorized?


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Re: [qmailtoaster] UPDATE qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.13.src.rpm URGENT

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

The package has been moved to the devel site.

Thanks,
Erik

On 1/31/07, Jean-Paul van de Plasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi,

This release fixes a mistake in the run script for the submission port.

I suggest everyone using the submission port to upgrade asap to this
release.

Or to manualy change the run script by changing the line
REQUIRE_AUTH=1
to
export REQUIRE_AUTH=1

For now you can download the new rpm at :
http://iserve01.i-serve.net/qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.13.src.rpm

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Re: [qmailtoaster] one question

2007-01-31 Thread Daniel R. Hdez

HI Alexey,

I use QmailToaster, sorry for this, i no wirte any more here.

Thanks


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Greetings, Daniel.

31 ?? 2007 ?., 20:49:41 you have wrote:

Exist any program that permit conect to mail server  by httpmail
with the client aoutlook, like to hotmail.


You know, your question is a bit unrelated to QmailToaster, so I think
that you will not get any valuable answer here.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] one question

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hey Daniel,

Here is a link to a modified squirrelmail that may fit your need.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/squirreloutlook/

In general this list is about the QmailToaster. We will try to help
with other things, but Alexey was just letting you know that you may
not find the info you seek on this list.

Thanks,
Erik

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HI Alexey,

I use QmailToaster, sorry for this, i no wirte any more here.

Thanks


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 Greetings, Daniel.

 31 ?? 2007 ?., 20:49:41 you have wrote:
 Exist any program that permit conect to mail server  by httpmail
 with the client aoutlook, like to hotmail.

 You know, your question is a bit unrelated to QmailToaster, so I think
 that you will not get any valuable answer here.

 Well, who knows...

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Re: [qmailtoaster] possible inclusion in toaster

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

Nice suggestion, but seriously it's not worth us supporting more
packages than we already support.

Dag does a great job with his packaging, it'd be best to use his
package if it works for you.

We're concentrating on making a mail system as best as it can be.
We're not trying to handle every aspect of the system you are running.
That's for the admin to determine.

Thanks,
Erik

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Hello guys.

I've built a few toasters over the last year. I love the process, quick
and painless (at least till you need to modify spam settigns), anyway.
For the most part most people use a stock rpm based *nix and throw in
the toaster, which is what I do as well.  the only software I add is a
small program called denyhosts.  this thing is a real lifesaver.  Before
using it I was getting upwards of 4000 break in attempts through ssh.
now I'm down to a handful a day.  It's easy enough to install but maybe
you wanna think about including it?  I know this will be just 1 more
thing to support, but it seems my mail servers get hit much harder on
ssh then my other servers.  If not included maybe add it on the wiki, or
related product page. Just my 2 cents.

Dan Page

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Re: [qmailtoaster] UPDATE qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.13.src.rpm URGENT

2007-01-31 Thread Quinn Comendant
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:13:46 +0100, Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:
 Or to manualy change the run script by changing the line 
 REQUIRE_AUTH=1
 to
 export REQUIRE_AUTH=1

The smtp/run script maybe also has this but as it only has:

REQUIRE_AUTH=0

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Re: [qmailtoaster] one question

2007-01-31 Thread Alexey Loukianov

Erik Espinoza wrote:

In general this list is about the QmailToaster. We will try to help
with other things, but Alexey was just letting you know that you may
not find the info you seek on this list.


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[qmailtoaster] bad-loader-reject

2007-01-31 Thread Dan Herbon
One of our clients is attempting to send one of my employees a PDF file but
it keeps getting rejected with the following message:

 

---

qmail-smtpd: bad-loader-reject: MAILFROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RCPTTO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

---

 

I believe this logging was recently added and I'm trying to figure out what
this means.



Re: [qmailtoaster] UPDATE qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.13.src.rpm URGENT

2007-01-31 Thread Alexey Loukianov

Quinn Comendant wrote:

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:13:46 +0100, Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:
Or to manualy change the run script by changing the line 
REQUIRE_AUTH=1

to
export REQUIRE_AUTH=1


The smtp/run script maybe also has this but as it only has:

REQUIRE_AUTH=0


This is not fatal, as if REQUIRE_AUTH is not set, qmail-smtpd defaults 
not to require auth.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] UPDATE qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.13.src.rpm URGENT

2007-01-31 Thread Jean-Paul van de Plasse

Ah thats the problem with only quick checking and not looking further
This does not make a difference tho since default = 0..

Just looks silly :P

JP

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On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:13:46 +0100, Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:
Or to manualy change the run script by changing the line 
REQUIRE_AUTH=1

to
export REQUIRE_AUTH=1


The smtp/run script maybe also has this but as it only has:

REQUIRE_AUTH=0

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Controlling SMTP access to mail server.

2007-01-31 Thread Alexey Loukianov

Erik Espinoza wrote:

A BSD admin that can take qmailtoaster and make it run on BSD can
implmenet a firewall policy using ipf.


Sure ;-D. But you're not taking into account admin laziness.


ES, port 587 is all about SMTP-AUTH, meaning that tcprules shouldn't
really matter as it's all done through auth. Port 25 doesn't require
auth, therefore it would need independent control.

What possible scenario would we need to control port 587 independently
of port 25 and why?

This seems like unnecessary complication, with no pay off at all. 


You know, that is the reason I'd like to see that files separated.

Submission service and SMTP service in fact serve for totally different 
 purposes. One is used for MUA-MTA message submission, other is used 
for MTA-to-MTA message transfer. I can hardly see why should I use same 
tcprules for totally different services?


In ideal world I would enable things like SPF and simscan only on SMTP 
service, and domainkeys or dkim signing only on SUBMISSION service. And 
I would never-ever add IP ranges with RELAYCLIENT= to the tcprules for 
SUBMISSION service as it will look like nonsence there - I always want 
my users to auth themselves to use SUBMISSION service.


That is why I use separate rulesets for SMTP and SUBMISSION.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] one question

2007-01-31 Thread Jean-Paul van de Plasse
I think he means he wants to access his mail by using a different connector 
then imap/pop3.

Like there is a hotmail connector in outlook over http/https.

I really doubt there is anything that does this , and also I see no good 
reason you would want it.


JP

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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] one question


Hey Daniel,

Here is a link to a modified squirrelmail that may fit your need.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/squirreloutlook/

In general this list is about the QmailToaster. We will try to help
with other things, but Alexey was just letting you know that you may
not find the info you seek on this list.

Thanks,
Erik

On 1/31/07, Daniel R. Hdez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

HI Alexey,

I use QmailToaster, sorry for this, i no wirte any more here.

Thanks


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To: Daniel R. Hdez qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] one question


 Greetings, Daniel.

 31 ?? 2007 ?., 20:49:41 you have wrote:
 Exist any program that permit conect to mail server  by httpmail
 with the client aoutlook, like to hotmail.

 You know, your question is a bit unrelated to QmailToaster, so I think
 that you will not get any valuable answer here.

 Well, who knows...

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Re: [qmailtoaster] bad-loader-reject

2007-01-31 Thread Jean-Paul van de Plasse
It seems you have something in /var/qmail/control/badloadertypes
But this file has been empty (commented) for a long time now.
So make sure you run an up to date qmail-toaster.
Or manually change the file and run qmailctl cdb 

JP

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  Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:15 PM
  Subject: [qmailtoaster] bad-loader-reject


  One of our clients is attempting to send one of my employees a PDF file but 
it keeps getting rejected with the following message:

   

  ---

  qmail-smtpd: bad-loader-reject: MAILFROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RCPTTO:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

  ---

   

  I believe this logging was recently added and I'm trying to figure out what 
this means.


Re: [qmailtoaster] bad-loader-reject

2007-01-31 Thread Alexey Loukianov

Dan Herbon wrote:
One of our clients is attempting to send one of my employees a PDF file 
but it keeps getting rejected with the following message:



---
qmail-smtpd: bad-loader-reject: MAILFROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
RCPTTO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

---

I believe this logging was recently added and I’m trying to figure out 
what this means.




A message was rejected because it contains some of the strings found in 
/var/qmail/controls/badloadertypes.


Check your /etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp for BADLOADERTYPE value. qmail-smtpd 
looks in a message for any sting starting with letter specified by 
BADLOADERTYPE value and is listed in /var/qmail/controls/badloadertypes. 
If it founds any - it rejects a message.


That was implemented by DJB as a poor-mans style of content filtering, 
allowing to reject messages containing stings like '32.dll', e.t.c.
Now it is not needed anymore, as clamav scanning in general gives better 
results and less false positives.


To disable badloader scanning, set BADLOADERTYPE= in tcp.smtp, and 
comment out all lines in /var/qmail/controls/badloadertypes by placing 
hash character to the beginning of each line.


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[qmailtoaster] SPF causing delivery failures

2007-01-31 Thread Ed Morrison

Hi Everyone:

I have a qmail toaster that sits behind a SPAM and virus filter.  All 
incoming email is first routed through the filter before getting handed 
off to the toaster.  Unfortunately the toaster is rejecting some email 
due to SPF issues?  How do I stop this?  Is there a way to disable SPF 
without re-installing toaster?  Or is there a way to keep SPF running in 
this type of environment?


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Re: [qmailtoaster] SPF causing delivery failures SOLVED

2007-01-31 Thread Ed Morrison

Ed Morrison wrote:

Hi Everyone:

I have a qmail toaster that sits behind a SPAM and virus filter.  All 
incoming email is first routed through the filter before getting 
handed off to the toaster.  Unfortunately the toaster is rejecting 
some email due to SPF issues?  How do I stop this?  Is there a way to 
disable SPF without re-installing toaster?  Or is there a way to keep 
SPF running in this type of environment?


Thanks!

I found it here:

/var/qmail/control/spfbehavior


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[qmailtoaster] Greylist for qmailtoaster

2007-01-31 Thread P.V.Anthony

Hi,

I am thinking about trying out greylist for the qmailtoaster currently 
running on our server. I heard great reports from my friend who is using 
it on sendmail.


Is there any patch that I could use and just compile only the smtp? Is 
that even possible? Or do I have to recompile everything?


Then run the smtp-grey on another ip so that it can be tested on a 
domain to see if it works. I know I will have to add a MX record for the 
testing domain.


Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylist for qmailtoaster

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

Hello PV

Very basic greylisting available here:
http://www.kabewm.com/?p=19

I recommend against  greylisting in general as many spam appliances
and firewalls that people use as proxies for their Exchange server (or
other servers) do not handle error 4xx as temporary errors. Instead
they kick back an error to the user and reject all mail from those
sites. Sure they are not following the standard, but you're the one
that's going to hear about it and deal with troubleshooting sites with
little/no information.

Thanks,
Erik

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Hi,

I am thinking about trying out greylist for the qmailtoaster currently
running on our server. I heard great reports from my friend who is using
it on sendmail.

Is there any patch that I could use and just compile only the smtp? Is
that even possible? Or do I have to recompile everything?

Then run the smtp-grey on another ip so that it can be tested on a
domain to see if it works. I know I will have to add a MX record for the
testing domain.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

P.V.Anthony

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Re: [qmailtoaster] one question

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

Definitely outside the scope of QmailToaster.

That said: http://ypopsemail.com/

I don't know about Hotmail though.

On 1/31/07, Jean-Paul van de Plasse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think he means he wants to access his mail by using a different connector
then imap/pop3.
Like there is a hotmail connector in outlook over http/https.

I really doubt there is anything that does this , and also I see no good
reason you would want it.

JP

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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] one question


Hey Daniel,

Here is a link to a modified squirrelmail that may fit your need.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/squirreloutlook/

In general this list is about the QmailToaster. We will try to help
with other things, but Alexey was just letting you know that you may
not find the info you seek on this list.

Thanks,
Erik

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 HI Alexey,

 I use QmailToaster, sorry for this, i no wirte any more here.

 Thanks


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 To: Daniel R. Hdez qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] one question


  Greetings, Daniel.
 
  31 ?? 2007 ?., 20:49:41 you have wrote:
  Exist any program that permit conect to mail server  by httpmail
  with the client aoutlook, like to hotmail.
 
  You know, your question is a bit unrelated to QmailToaster, so I think
  that you will not get any valuable answer here.
 
  Well, who knows...
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] possible inclusion in toaster

2007-01-31 Thread Eric \Shubes\
I'd like to see it under TT for now.
Thanks, Dan.

dan page wrote:
 Okay, You've Convinced me to do a HOWTO.  I like the idea of giving
 something back, because honestly I know ALOT of people who would have
 spent 5k or better on M$ exchange if weren't for the toaster (have I
 Mentioned I like QMT?)   Just tell me where you want it.  from the main
 page under 2. FAQ or additional resoures? could be user tips and
 tricks.  Just say where and i'll throw somthing up
 
 Thanks for all the great work.
 Dan Page
 Erik Espinoza wrote:
 
 A wiki entry would be nice though, if you want to add one I'm sure the
 community would appreciate your howto.

 Thanks,
 Erik

 On 1/31/07, Erik Espinoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nice suggestion, but seriously it's not worth us supporting more
 packages than we already support.

 Dag does a great job with his packaging, it'd be best to use his
 package if it works for you.

 We're concentrating on making a mail system as best as it can be.
 We're not trying to handle every aspect of the system you are running.
 That's for the admin to determine.

 Thanks,
 Erik

 On 1/31/07, Dan Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello guys.
 
  I've built a few toasters over the last year. I love the process,
 quick
  and painless (at least till you need to modify spam settigns), anyway.
  For the most part most people use a stock rpm based *nix and throw in
  the toaster, which is what I do as well.  the only software I add is a
  small program called denyhosts.  this thing is a real lifesaver. 
 Before
  using it I was getting upwards of 4000 break in attempts through ssh.
  now I'm down to a handful a day.  It's easy enough to install but
 maybe
  you wanna think about including it?  I know this will be just 1 more
  thing to support, but it seems my mail servers get hit much harder on
  ssh then my other servers.  If not included maybe add it on the
 wiki, or
  related product page. Just my 2 cents.
 
  Dan Page
 
  P.S.  There are already rpm's of the package at:
  http://dag.wieers.com/packages/denyhosts/
 
 


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Controlling SMTP access to mail server.

2007-01-31 Thread Eric \Shubes\
Erik Espinoza wrote:
 ES, port 587 is all about SMTP-AUTH, meaning that tcprules shouldn't
 really matter as it's all done through auth. Port 25 doesn't require
 auth, therefore it would need independent control.

This sounds to me like a good argument *for* separating them. The processes
are inherently (naturally) different.

Saying that tcprules shouldn't really matter for submission isn't really
the case. It's true that there should essentially be no rules, but that's
different. If you  need to put constraints on MTA sessions, as Stephen
needed to do (remember what started this thread?), they would be
inappropriate for MSA sessions (which would need to be wide open), which
causes a problem.

 What possible scenario would we need to control port 587 independently
 of port 25 and why?

Any time that an admin might need to control MTA traffic/access
independently of MSA. The MSA rules would be simple and static (practically
non existent, because SMTP-AUTH is handling everything, and would rarely
need to change), while most of the tailoring (allowing only MTA from a
limited set of servers, for instance) would exist in the MTA rules.

 This seems like unnecessary complication, with no pay off at all.

I guess what you see as complication I see as simplicity. The payoff is
being able to change MTA behavior without impacting the MSA. This is the
same reason that MSA was separated to begin with, was it not?

 Erik
 
 On 1/31/07, Eric Shubes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Problem: controlling/configuring smtp and submission independently is
 difficult, if not impossible.

 Is there are reason why there *shouldn't* be separate tcprules files?
 I see
 no advantage to having them share the same one.

 Erik Espinoza wrote:
  A BSD admin that can take qmailtoaster and make it run on BSD can
  implmenet a firewall policy using ipf.
 
  I don't think having two tcp.smtp's is going to help, it doesn't seem
  to solve any problems we are having.
 
 
  Erik
 
  On 1/31/07, Alexey Loukianov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Greetings, Eric.
 
  31 января 2007 г., 22:05:38 you have wrote:
 
   Alexey Loukianov wrote:
   Greetings, Erik.
  
   31 ?? 2007 ?., 6:02:20 you have wrote:
   Separate tcprules file for submission port seems to me as a
 better
   approach. It keeps administration of QT flexible and unified, and
  also
   it is more cross-platforming way, as tcpserver works on any
 platform
   qmail can run on, while iptables is available only on linux
 systems
   based on kernels 2.4.x and later.
  
   Who cares? We don't even support Debian. . . :)
  
   Me, for example ;-D. A friend of mine, also a system engineer,
   administer small FreeBSD based cluster, and he uses QT in his
 setup.
   Accordingly to his words, it wasn't too hard to build and
 install RPM
   system on his BSD boxes, and then to correct specs so basic QT
 parts
   builds up and install successfully.
  
   Well, in any case we can always create tcp.submission ourselves,
 just
   like I do it for tcp.pop3 ;-D. But the laziness of sysadmin is the
   thing that makes me want tcp.submission to be included in stock
   toaster.
  
   I agree with Alexey on this. Besides which, wouldn't it be nice to
  have QT
   on BSD as well? I wonder if Alexey's friend would care to contribute
  in this
   area.
 
  It is not so easy, as BSD way is not to use RPMS, while main toaster
  advantage is it's RPM nature. A friend of mine came to BSD world from
  RedHad based linux distros, that is why he uses RPM even on BSD - it
  is just a matter of habbit.
 
  Well, it is still possible to port QT on BSD and distribute is as a
  bunch of tarballs if we will find some BSD geek who will want to
  maintenance it. But I don't think it is a urgent task for qt-dev team
  ;-D.
 
  --
  Best Regards,
   Alexey Loukianov 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Software Development Department,
  Lavtech Corp
  http://mnogo.ru, http://lavtech.ru
 


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Controlling SMTP access to mail server.

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

 ES, port 587 is all about SMTP-AUTH, meaning that tcprules shouldn't
 really matter as it's all done through auth. Port 25 doesn't require
 auth, therefore it would need independent control.

This sounds to me like a good argument *for* separating them. The processes
are inherently (naturally) different.

Saying that tcprules shouldn't really matter for submission isn't really
the case. It's true that there should essentially be no rules, but that's
different. If you  need to put constraints on MTA sessions, as Stephen
needed to do (remember what started this thread?), they would be
inappropriate for MSA sessions (which would need to be wide open), which
causes a problem.


I don't see how tcprules would fix Stephen's problem. He's basically
ticked that spammers are hitting his hidden server directly. I say
don't just hide it, firewall it.


 What possible scenario would we need to control port 587 independently
 of port 25 and why?

Any time that an admin might need to control MTA traffic/access
independently of MSA. The MSA rules would be simple and static (practically
non existent, because SMTP-AUTH is handling everything, and would rarely
need to change), while most of the tailoring (allowing only MTA from a
limited set of servers, for instance) would exist in the MTA rules.

 This seems like unnecessary complication, with no pay off at all.

I guess what you see as complication I see as simplicity. The payoff is
being able to change MTA behavior without impacting the MSA. This is the
same reason that MSA was separated to begin with, was it not?


Show me one scenario where this would make sense? I can't think of one.

Erik

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[qmailtoaster] received blank e-mail

2007-01-31 Thread opik
Hello all
I have a problem with one of my customer he said he got a blank e-mail
when receiving mail using outlook express. Do anyone experience same
problem like this? and how to handle problem like this? for the answer i
apreciate it. 

Regards
Opik

note:
Qmailtoaster version 1.03-1.2.11
OS SuSE 10.0




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Switching from pop3 to IMAP and how to backup e.mails archives

2007-01-31 Thread Massimiliano Fontana


I don't know the answer to your question for sure, but I think that 
would do it.


I've been (slowly) migrating a few accounts from pop3 to imap too. 
From what
I've seen on the internet though, I'm leery to use Outlook as an IMAP 
client
with Courier. I hear that Outlook does well with Exchange (to be 
expected),

but there have been problems getting it to work well with other IMAP
servers. I don't recall any specifics, and YMMV depending on the Outlook
version. I'd recommend doing a prototype test with it though before
committing to a domain-wide change.

What benefit are you trying to achieve? Are there roaming users who 
need to
access their email outside of the office? If so, they could continue 
to use

pop3 and simply leave the email on the server for a period of time
(configured in Outlook).

Yes , we have 4 sales manager who are often abroad and we recently 
bought blackberry devices with a wordlwide flatrate contract .
What they want is  to have a central repository .I mean ,  if they 
erase  a msg while they are away (i.e with their blackberry) , they 
don't want to find it again on their desktop pc's once they are in the 
office.
I don't think or better , I wouldn't know how to handle a situation like 
that with pop3 protocol.
About outlook , I've read there were problems with earlier version of 
this client but fortunately we use the latest version   .

I'll let you know as soon as possible.
Thanks !
Max

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Switching from pop3 to IMAP and how to backup e.mails archives

2007-01-31 Thread Erik Espinoza

Yes , we have 4 sales manager who are often abroad and we recently
bought blackberry devices with a wordlwide flatrate contract .
What they want is  to have a central repository .I mean ,  if they
erase  a msg while they are away (i.e with their blackberry) , they
don't want to find it again on their desktop pc's once they are in the
office.


Buy Blackberry Enterprise Server.

Thanks,
Erik

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