Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Ganshorn Thomas
- Some of the UI in my case are created dynamically either at compile time or at runtime. The former depending on the target platform and the latter depending on the device screen resolution. I don't see this possibility with QML. Why is that? The fact that the UI is declarative in nature

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Robin Burchell
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Ganshorn Thomas maili...@novaimages.de wrote: An addition Try to draw some line diagrams in qml please. HTML5 Canvas no problem. QML ? Please write your own c++ class that you register at qml. two things to note here: #1: it's already been written for you

Re: [Qt5-feedback] MIME type support in Qt5

2011-10-10 Thread Wolf-Michael Bolle
Hi David, I have come to understand that QtCreator is maintaining a local MIME database that is completely independent from the system MIME database, and is built from scratch from XML files that are part of the QtCreator distribution. Yes but it doesn't have to stay that way! It

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread jens.bache-wiig
Try to draw some line diagrams in qml please. HTML5 Canvas no problem. QML ? Please write your own c++ class that you register at qml. I had the same reaction last year. Which is why I created: http://qt.gitorious.org/qt-labs/qmlcanvas In Qt 5, html5 Canvas is part of the language. BUT ... how

Re: [Qt5-feedback] declarative - quick

2011-10-10 Thread Kent Hansen
Hi Girish, Den 08. okt. 2011 08:17, skrev ext Girish Ramakrishnan: Hi, Is there a plan to rename declarative module to quick? I would prefer saying QT += quick or QT += quick2 instead of QT += declarative. Isn't declarative more like a programming style? The idea is to move the graphical

Re: [Qt5-feedback] JSON (was Re: Some parts of LibQxt in Qt)

2011-10-10 Thread Mark
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Jedrzej Nowacki jedrzej.nowa...@nokia.comwrote: ** On Wednesday 5. October 2011 15.51.23 you wrote: Hi Jedrzej, On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Jedrzej Nowacki jedrzej.nowa...@nokia.com wrote: Hi, As Thiago already pointed out, we

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Stefan Majewsky
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:13 PM, lars.kn...@nokia.com wrote: Putting QWidgets on top of/inside the scene graph is doable without performance regressions. We haven't done it though. Personally, I consider such an effort top priority if you want people to migrate from QtWidgets to Qt Quick 2. At

Re: [Qt5-feedback] MIME type support in Qt5

2011-10-10 Thread David Faure
On Monday 10 October 2011 09:08:31 Wolf-Michael Bolle wrote: Hi David, I have come to understand that QtCreator is maintaining a local MIME database that is completely independent from the system MIME database, and is built from scratch from XML files that are part of the QtCreator

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
10.10.2011, 13:39, Stefan Majewsky stefan.majew...@googlemail.com: On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:13 PM,  lars.kn...@nokia.com wrote:  Putting QWidgets on top of/inside the scene graph is doable without  performance regressions. We haven't done it though. Personally, I consider such an effort

Re: [Qt5-feedback] declarative - quick

2011-10-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Monday, 10 de October de 2011 10:23:19 Kent Hansen wrote: It also means you'll need to add both in your .pro file (e.g. QT += declarative qtquick), unless we automagically add declarative when qtquick is added (not a fan of that). If A depends publicly on B and you do: QT += A Then B is

Re: [Qt5-feedback] declarative - quick

2011-10-10 Thread Simon Hausmann
On Monday, October 10, 2011 01:31:47 PM ext Thiago Macieira wrote: On Monday, 10 de October de 2011 10:23:19 Kent Hansen wrote: It also means you'll need to add both in your .pro file (e.g. QT += declarative qtquick), unless we automagically add declarative when qtquick is added (not a

[Qt5-feedback] Creating hybrid apps with WebView, where should I look?

2011-10-10 Thread Ville M. Vainio
I'd like to review the support Qt5 has for Hybrid application (i.e. webview that can call out to exposed QObjects, and QObjects that can modify the DOM in webview). Where should I look? ___ Qt5-feedback mailing list Qt5-feedback@qt.nokia.com

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Alexis Menard alexis.men...@openbossa.org wrote: BTW, currently folks who need WebKit 2 are actually forced to use QML because no Qt/C++ API exists. This is bullshit based again on not checking out stuff. Dude, git clone WebKit trunk and look the h files are

Re: [Qt5-feedback] declarative - quick

2011-10-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Monday, 10 de October de 2011 13:34:21 Simon Hausmann wrote: It has to because by construction B's classes are used in A, so you have to use B to use A. Not quite, it doesn't mean that you can do #include ClassFromB if you do QT += A. But shouldn't it? If I have: #include ClassFromA

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Creating hybrid apps with WebView, where should I look?

2011-10-10 Thread Alexis Menard
Hi, On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to review the support Qt5 has for Hybrid application (i.e. webview that can call out to exposed QObjects, and QObjects that can modify the DOM in webview). Where should I look? The webkit trunk repo.

Re: [Qt5-feedback] declarative - quick

2011-10-10 Thread Girish Ramakrishnan
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Kent Hansen kent.han...@nokia.com wrote: Hi Girish, Den 08. okt. 2011 08:17, skrev ext Girish Ramakrishnan: Hi, Is there a plan to rename declarative module to quick? I would prefer saying QT += quick or QT += quick2 instead of QT += declarative. Isn't

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Stefan Majewsky
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Alexis Menard alexis.men...@openbossa.org wrote: I think this opens a pandora box just like QGraphicsProxyWidget. People will expect to put anything inside and hope that it will work and get angry when it doesn't (not knowing why it can't work). But if it's

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Regular expression libraries for QRegExp

2011-10-10 Thread Girish Ramakrishnan
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Olivier Goffart oliv...@woboq.com wrote: On Monday 10 October 2011 11:52:37 Mark wrote: Hi, Some time ago I've read something here about replacing Qt't QRegExp backend with a existing library to get rid of the maintenance burden. One other conclusion was

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Kishore Jonnalagadda
On Monday 10 Oct 2011 8:17:19 AM Alexis Menard wrote: Beurk this thread is just about people ranting never tried to use QML or thought about using it as a real alternative or don't even let time for the technology to mature. I write down this date and we will see in 1-2 years when QML will

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Иван Комиссаров
Most of letters from nokia developers that says that QML is great technology mention mobile platforms. Guys, there is NO mobile platforms with Qt… ___ Qt5-feedback mailing list Qt5-feedback@qt.nokia.com

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Quim Gil
On 10/10/2011 09:42 AM, ext Adriano Rezende wrote: On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Uwe Rathmannuwe.rathm...@tigertal.de wrote: On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:35:12 +0200, Peter Kümmel wrote: Maybe it isn't that bad in Qt because only the GUI is implemented in QML, business logic could still be

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Quim Gil
On 10/10/2011 09:58 AM, ext Иван Комиссаров wrote: Most of letters from nokia developers that says that QML is great technology mention mobile platforms. Just in case you missed it, the opener of this thread expressed his concerns on QWidget vs QML in mobile platforms - and this is the topic

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Иван Комиссаров
Qt is _not_ used for mobile development as i see. In fact, i agree that QWidgets are bad there. But main use-case for qt framework is desktop. Lot of arguments was about limitations of qwidgets and one of the example was mac style. First produce next billion devices (that would be sold), than

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Monday, 10 de October de 2011 20:58:11 Иван Комиссаров wrote: Most of letters from nokia developers that says that QML is great technology mention mobile platforms. Guys, there is NO mobile platforms with Qt… I think your definition of no platforms is quite a bit restrictive. I've just paid

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Regular expression libraries for QRegExp

2011-10-10 Thread Mark
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Thiago Macieira thi...@kde.org wrote: On Monday, 10 de October de 2011 18:13:47 Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote: If a solution doesn't come up in time for 5.0, could QRegExp still be moved into a separate module so that it's possible to put a replacement inside

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread vivainio
Be realist, people that get paid to work on Qt mostly get paid with the expectation that Qt will deliver on mobile. Expecting anyone to not care about mobile use cases is not going to fly here. On 10/10/11 8:27 PM Иван Комиссаров wrote: Qt is _not_ used for mobile development as i see. In

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Georg Rudoy
2011/10/10 Adriano Rezende adriano.reze...@openbossa.org: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Stefan Majewsky stefan.majew...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:13 PM,  lars.kn...@nokia.com wrote: Putting QWidgets on top of/inside the scene graph is doable without performance

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Monday, 10 de October de 2011 21:27:42 Иван Комиссаров wrote: Qt is not used for mobile development as i see. In fact, i agree that QWidgets are bad there. But main use-case for qt framework is desktop. Lot of arguments was about limitations of qwidgets and one of the example was mac style.

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Georg Rudoy
2011/10/10 Kishore Jonnalagadda kitts.mailingli...@gmail.com: On Monday 10 Oct 2011 8:17:19 AM Alexis Menard wrote: Beurk this thread is just about people ranting never tried to use QML or thought about using it as a real alternative or don't even let time for the technology to mature. I write

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Frans Klaver
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:05:21 +0200, Иван Комиссаров abba...@gmail.com wrote: But i need bug fixes. Bugs that i reported to Qt bug tracker about TWO YEARS old, some of them with high priority. Even merge requests are waiting for weeks to be reviewed. This is something I think isn't good.

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Adriano Rezende
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Georg Rudoy 0xd34df...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/10/10 Adriano Rezende adriano.reze...@openbossa.org: Supporting QWidget or QGV on top of QtQuick2 would be a huge mistake IMO. It would be a political movement that will not end up well in the long term. If one wants

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Adriano Rezende
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Uwe Rathmann uwe.rathm...@tigertal.de wrote: On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:42:11 -0300, Adriano Rezende wrote: I have to disagree, some designers are already using QML/JS for prototyping instead of Flex. Kudos to all of these designers. In my daily work (

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Peter Kümmel
On 10.10.2011 22:22, Frans Klaver wrote: people think the priorities are wrong. That's the point: Priority for Desktop is very low at Nokia. We all see it, feel it, any many old-school desktop develors don't like it. Peter ___ Qt5-feedback

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Georg Rudoy
2011/10/11 Adriano Rezende adriano.reze...@openbossa.org: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Georg Rudoy 0xd34df...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/10/10 Adriano Rezende adriano.reze...@openbossa.org: Supporting QWidget or QGV on top of QtQuick2 would be a huge mistake IMO. It would be a political

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Andre Somers
Op 10-10-2011 18:44, Adriano Rezende schreef: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Stefan Majewsky stefan.majew...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:13 PM,lars.kn...@nokia.com wrote: Putting QWidgets on top of/inside the scene graph is doable without performance regressions. We

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi, 2011/10/10 Иван Комиссаров abba...@gmail.com: But i need bug fixes. Bugs that i reported to Qt bug tracker about TWO YEARS old snip On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Peter Kümmel syntheti...@gmx.net wrote: We all see it, feel it, any many old-school desktop develors don't like it.

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Иван Комиссаров
Am i correct, that it wouldn't be possible to integrate QDeclarativeView into widget-based app in qt5? I already used such approach, was quite pretty. 11.10.2011, в 0:36, Andre Somers написал(а): Op 10-10-2011 18:44, Adriano Rezende schreef: On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Stefan Majewsky

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Attila Csipa
On Monday 10 October 2011 22:31:54 Peter Kümmel wrote: On 10.10.2011 22:22, Frans Klaver wrote: people think the priorities are wrong. That's the point: Priority for Desktop is very low at Nokia. We all see it, feel it, any many old-school desktop develors don't like it. I also

Re: [Qt5-feedback] Concern about removal of QWidget classes

2011-10-10 Thread Aleix Pol
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Peter Kümmel syntheti...@gmx.net wrote: On 10.10.2011 22:22, Frans Klaver wrote: people think the priorities are wrong. That's the point: Priority for Desktop is very low at Nokia. We all see it, feel it, any many old-school desktop develors

Re: [Qt5-feedback] declarative - quick

2011-10-10 Thread Lincoln Ramsay
On 10/10/2011 09:31 PM, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: On Monday, 10 de October de 2011 10:23:19 Kent Hansen wrote: It also means you'll need to add both in your .pro file (e.g. QT += declarative qtquick), unless we automagically add declarative when qtquick is added (not a fan of that). If A