Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-09-24 Thread Stuntman
Actually, spending on Intelligence, especially the CIA, has been declining as a portion of the Federal budget since the mid-1970s. This was primarily related to excesses of the intelligence agencies, which involved assassination plots, the engineering of foreign elections, and the Iran Contra

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-09-24 Thread Keith Hogan
The Mossad is most likely aware of almost everything that happens in Iraq. I suspect that there are probably Mossad agents guarding those sand dunes. Keith Stuntman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, spending on Intelligence, especially the CIA, has been declining as a portion of the Federal

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-09-24 Thread Keith Hogan
Actually, spending on Intelligence, especially the CIA, has been declining as a portion of the Federal budget since the mid-1970s. This was primarily related to excesses of the intelligence agencies, which involved assassination plots, the engineering of foreign elections, and the Iran Contra

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-09-07 Thread David K. Kelmer
Hi Stuntman, Maybe it should be... GO BARE TO THE BEARS' GAMES! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave --- Die Hard Lions Fan :)C4/5 Complete - 28 Year PostTexas, USA Stuntman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK,Subject change.Go BEARS!Stuntman Yes, I know that.lol! Keith Stuntman <[EMAIL

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-09-05 Thread Keith Hogan
I was just trying to improve your grasp of the English language! Keith Boyd Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And your point Is?On 9/02/04 10:18 AM, "Keith Hogan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYIMerriam-Webster Online DictionaryMerriam-Webster OnlineMain Entry: in·teg·ri·ty

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-09-05 Thread David K. Kelmer
Hi Jim, What worries me is that they may be buried in Syria, a country we know supports Terrorism. With Love,CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Year PostTexas, USA Jim Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:46 PM 8/26/2004, Keith Hogan wrote: If there was any credible evidence whatsoever of an

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-09-03 Thread Stacy Harim
n you destroy yourself" - Original Message - From: Keith Hogan To: Stuntman ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country Oh God! I hate the Bears! Everybody knows that t

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-09-02 Thread QuadPirate
---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, September 02, 2004 12:28:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country I LOVE THE RAMS! GO R A M S Many liked the Cowboy's

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-09-02 Thread Keith Hogan
I was just kidding.I really prefer college football. Hook'em Horns KeithStuntman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See, something else we can argue about ;^)I have problems with terms like "everybody" knows.So to put it to a test.Hey everbody Who is your favorite football team?Does anybody else think

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-09-02 Thread Stuntman
So that's where you grabbed your nickname ;^P Stuntman ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, September 02, 2004 12:28:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-09-02 Thread QuadPirate
Yep! ---Original Message--- From: Stuntman Date: Thursday, September 02, 2004 13:50:11 To: QuadPirate; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country So that's where you grabbed your nickname;^PStuntman ---Original Message

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-09-01 Thread Stuntman
OK, Subject change. Go BEARS! Stuntman Yes, I know that.lol! Keith Stuntman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:While I'm not tired I can agree to disagree. While you may feel I'm misguided, I can only say the same of your view. stuntman I reject your premise not the logic of your

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-09-01 Thread Keith Hogan
Oh God! I hate the Bears! Everybody knows that the Cowboys are America's team. KeithStuntman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK,Subject change.Go BEARS!Stuntman Yes, I know that.lol! Keith Stuntman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:While I'm not tired I can agree to disagree. While you may feel I'm

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-09-01 Thread Boyd Jenkins
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country Cant argue the facts speak for themselves portion of your post, but Im having trouble with the integrity part. Only one of the two principals you mentioned has it, and his name is Bush. But thats okay, because hes the one

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-31 Thread Stuntman
KEITH! You said what you would have done, even though it would have been fraud. Bush didn't. So you still smear him even though you admitted you would have done worse? You put up a long list of things you seemed to think Republicans must believe. I guess you have to believe meathead moore is a

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-31 Thread Keith Hogan
Stuntman, The list of things that I posted about Republican beliefs was political satire..Are you too right wing to have a sense of humor? I stated what I would do, if I was in President Bush's position. If I had been the President all along then the United States wouldn't be in the quagmire

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-31 Thread Keith Hogan
I think that the facts speak for themselves regarding the integrity of the two major political party's presidential candidates. Keith

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-31 Thread Keith Hogan
I reject your premise not the logic of your argument. In other words, I view the material facts very differently than you do. This continuing dialogue serves no purpose, in my opinion and it is growing tiresome to me. I concede nothing to you, but I appreciate the vigor with which you expound your

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-30 Thread Boyd Jenkins
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country You could do worse. Hes extremely well-informed. Boyd On 8/29/04 9:58 PM, Keith Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipAt the risk of agreeing with Stuntmansnip

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-29 Thread QuadPirate
Tony someonewas fired Bill Maher was fired for talking about it lol! Mark ---Original Message--- From: Tony Starez Date: Saturday, August 28, 2004 19:24:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country i'm digging this HOLY WAR

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-29 Thread Stuntman
Howdy Tony, what we destroyed was our credibility without firing one person in charge. I disagree, the credibility issue may take a while to iron out. WHY did France block enforcement of UN Resolution 1441 that it voted FOR? WHY are Syrian troops guarding 3 seperate areas of what is presumed

[QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-29 Thread wheelchair
In a message dated 8/29/04 3:57:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW Kerry also voted for enforcement. And so did most others congress. I also voted for enforcement, based on the credible information supplied by the very best intelligence agency in the world... or so I thought. You can

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-29 Thread Stuntman
W, During the klinton administration our Inteligence system was gutted by approx 80% cuts while UN support went up 8x. We were forced to rely on the intel systems of others. Tell me is Tenent still running the CIA? Was FOX the only media that ran Bush's speech where he admitted mistakes were

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-28 Thread Stuntman
Stuntman, your knowledge of World history is truly remarkable. I would be very grateful for you to educate me, as to how our support of Iraq in its war of aggression was in any way whatsoever related to the Cold War. If RUSSIA had not built Sadamned up, he never would have had the ability

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-28 Thread Stuntman
Keith, You want simple? Sadamned signed a treaty in 1991 which stipulated ALL WMD's and the equipment to make them were to be destroyed under UN Supervision. After a DECADE of playing mouse games with Hans Blix Co. UN resolution 1441 was fully supported by the UN with a final date for

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-28 Thread Stuntman
I guess you skipped this part? The political mindset during the Cold war caused many mistakes to be made, however we couldn't do nothing. It is a little Yin/Yang that luckily never ended in Communist domination or nucleur winter. And if you'd been following the thread, I blame those world

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-28 Thread Tony Starez
- From: Keith Hogan To: Stuntman ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country This is not World War III! There is a war against terrorism, which is why the United States and our Allies invaded

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-27 Thread dave headman
n. korea?millions have died under ill's dictatorship. where's the usa? dave headman-Original Message- From: Keith Hogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Aug 26, 2004 11:26 PM To: Jim Lubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-27 Thread Jim Lubin
the usa? dave headman -Original Message- From: Keith Hogan Sent: Aug 26, 2004 11:26 PM To: Jim Lubin , [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country In a way you are correct in your assertion. If I was in George W. Bush's shoes and decided to send

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-27 Thread Stuntman
In a way you are correct in your assertion. If I was in George W. Bush's shoes and decided to send American troops to invade Iraq then there definitely would have been WMDs found, even if I had to get the CIA to put them there. Keith Now DOESN'T THAT speak highly of Bush's integrity?

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-27 Thread Stuntman
The US has been actively involved in addressing this issue. It is within our best interests to get China to put him in check. After all Sadamned WAS our problem, we helped him (for a brief period) when he was fighting a war with Iran (due to influnces of the cold war). N. Korea IS China's

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-27 Thread Keith Hogan
Stuntman, your knowledge of World history is truly remarkable. I would be very grateful for you to educate me, as to how our support of Iraq in its war of aggression was in any way whatsoever related to the Cold War. The geopolitical situation at the time was that the United States was concerned

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-27 Thread Keith Hogan
No, it is a testimony to his audacity and arrogance. Keith Stuntman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a way you are correct in your assertion. If I was in George W. Bush's shoes and decided to send American troops to invade Iraq then there definitely would have been WMDs found, even if I had to get

[QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-26 Thread wheelchair
In a message dated 8/26/04 6:37:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's news to me, I guess I missed that we are tying to civilize Iraq. Liberate from a dictator but not civilize. That former dictator has been in our possession for almost 6 months and away from the duties of the bath

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-26 Thread Jim Lubin
At 05:05 PM 8/26/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/26/04 6:37:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's news to me, I guess I missed that we are tying to civilize Iraq. Liberate from a dictator but not civilize. That former dictator has been in our possession for almost 6

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-26 Thread wheelchair
In a message dated 8/26/04 7:50:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And we continue to remain there supporting the new government, as we are in Afghanistan. The people using car bombs have been targeting Iraqi police stations and Iraqi citizens applying for jobs. Should we just leave now that

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-26 Thread wheelchair
I wonder where this religious fanatic was hiding when the dictator was in power. Doesn't it seem like he developed his power overnite? I sure hope that we can achieve our goals and get out, so that our troops can go to Hawaii and cool a volcano and relax. W In a message dated 8/26/04

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-26 Thread Jim Lubin
At 05:54 PM 8/26/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish sometimes that I was a politician. Then I would have the perfect answer. Anyone who would jump into deep water and then ask themselves, Do you think that I should learn to swim should ask themselves, why did I jump in the water in the

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-26 Thread Stuntman
He killed the real cleric and then declared himself as one after Sadamned's rule fell. The Shites were being starved and murdered by Sadamned. Some are supportive of our efforts in their country, but you only hear about the trouble makers in the news. Have you heard the story about the young

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-26 Thread Keith Hogan
I would not compare the completely unnecessary war in Iraq to WWII. Japan attacked the U.S.A. and Germany declared war against us. Iraq did not attack the United States nor is there any credible evidence that the government of Iraq supported the terrorists that attacked the United States on

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-26 Thread Stuntman
I served in SAC during Nam the Cold War as part of a Nuke Disaster Preparedness Team. Due to the sensetive nature of the position, I learned a few things that I'm not at liberty to share. I can tell you this. We were taught about dealing with weapons of mass destruction. What they can do to

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-26 Thread Keith Hogan
Actually, my understanding of the Treaty of Versailles is that its implementation and the resulting economic distress imposed upon Germany by the Allies, principally France, created the conditions that caused Adolph Hitter's rise to power. Everybody knows that at one time Iraq had a very active

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-26 Thread Jim Lubin
I guess that is the main division is that I don't think the war in Iraq was completely unnecessary. I see Stuntman already responded saying what I was going to say; he just types faster than I do. Jim At 07:20 PM 8/26/2004, Keith Hogan wrote: I would not compare the completely unnecessary war

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-26 Thread Jim Lubin
At 07:46 PM 8/26/2004, Keith Hogan wrote: If there was any credible evidence whatsoever of an active weapons program, wouldn't the Bush Administration have brought it to the public's attention? If they did would you belive it or think it was fabricated? It's a big country with a lot of sand and

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-26 Thread Keith Hogan
In away you are correct in your assertion.If I was in George W.Bush's shoes and decided to send American troops to invade Iraq then there definitely would have been WMDs found, even if I had to get the CIA to put them there. Keith Jim Lubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:46 PM 8/26/2004, Keith

Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country

2004-08-26 Thread Tony Starez
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] How Much Do You Really Know About This Country At 05:54 PM 8/26/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish sometimes that I was a politician. Then I would have the perfect answer.Anyone who would jump