[q] Sonnet QuadDoubler
Does the Sonnet QuadDoubler make a significant difference? What do people use their Quadras for? Is a Quadra 800 too slow for web access and email? I'm wondering can I hook it up to my broadband ethernet router. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Sonnet QuadDoubler
Yes it makes a tremendous difference. I use my Quadra 900 (with QuadDoubler) for everything at my second home. Chat, email, light web browsing, word processing, etc... it is a busy bee indeed A Quadra 800 is fine for email. Not too great for web browsing. Yes you can connect it to your home network (ethernet). You cannot use a QuadDoubler in a Quadra 800. On Feb 23, 2005, at 2:58 AM, Sparky 191 wrote: Does the Sonnet QuadDoubler make a significant difference? What do people use their Quadras for? Is a Quadra 800 too slow for web access and email? I'm wondering can I hook it up to my broadband ethernet router. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Sonnet QuadDoubler
Why is a 800 not great for web. Is it just too slow? -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Sonnet QuadDoubler
At 10:48 + 23/02/05, Sparky 191 wrote: Why is a 800 not great for web. Is it just too slow? Yes, I think most people would find it too slow for web, also available/useable, and up-to-date browsers are not really available IMO. That was why I gave up my Q800, like 5 year ago. Most stable and reliable Mac I ever had, it ran like 18 hours a day, w. sys 7.5.3 r2, tons of obscure extensions, 48 mb ram and RamDoubler. Had at least 2 browsers, email, 1-2 wysiwyg html editors and Photoshop running all day, all times, and it hardly ever crashed on me, maybe one day a week I had to close all apps down and Restart. Nice little fella :-) /Tina -- _ *****The Evil RootMum***** - where life is beautiful all the time... -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Sonnet QuadDoubler
sorta they take a while to run anything. i have a quadra 660av about the same speed takes a while to do things on it. also my quadra 840av is slow too even though it is supposidely the fastest m68k On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Sparky 191 wrote: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:48:09 + From: Sparky 191 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Quadlist quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To: Quadlist quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com Subject: Re: [q] Sonnet QuadDoubler Why is a 800 not great for web. Is it just too slow? -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Sonnet QuadDoubler
On Feb 23, 2005, at 4:48 AM, Sparky 191 wrote: Why is a 800 not great for web. Is it just too slow? It is very very slow if you use a somewhat modern browser (Like IE 4 or Netscape 4 or iCab). However I still use mine for web browsing when I'm at my secondary home. I do not use the latest browser that will work, however. I use good old Internet Explorer 2.0 It runs really fast on Quadras (!!!) and doesnt barrage you with annoying errors like Netscape. Internet Explorer 2.0 is pretty stable. The one reason why most people would never consider using it is it displays web pages terribly (it was written in 1996 after all). BUT it is good enough to read the information and see the graphics on web pages. Just not good enough to arrange everything right. If this is satisfactory to you, then I suggest Internet Explorer 2.0. It also runs on system 7.1.x which I like because it is faster booting than 7.1 and up. I like to keep in mind that I'm using a Quadra for gods sakes and I don't really need to use all the snazziest latest stuff on that computer. I have a G4 for that. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: QuadDoubler
At 20:23 -0500 on 27/12/02, Dan Knight wrote: Dan Palka writes: Well I'll tell you all it was NOT worth the incredible price I paid for all of this stuff. I did not buy it on ebay because I hate ebay. Instead I bought them from a reseller. This QuadDoubler with warrantee in a Centris 650 board and 128 megs of RAM cost me about $200. And the damn thing doesnt even work in the Q800. The Sonnet QuadDoubler was a very clever hack with one significant drawback: It had to be specifically designed for a single computer. There was a 40/80 MHz model for the Centris 610, a 50/100 for the Quadra 610, and a different 50/100 for the Centris 650. Other ones for the Quadra 610, 660av, 700, and 900 have been discontinued. There isn't any good reason that a model designed for a 25 MHz Mac can't run in *any* 25 MHz Mac, except for physical fit reasons (like why the cache modules for the 700 won't work in a 605 with LC PDS cards installed), unless Sonnet specifically designed them *not* to work... Thus the one that works in the C650 ought to work in the 610s, 660avs, 700, and 900, but nothing is ever gonna work in the 800 and 950. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: QuadDoubler results are in!!!
They both had Ethernet on-board, and neither would benchmark faster in Speedometer. Er, not necessarily. Remember, the 4MB Centris 650 doesn't have ethernet, or a full '040. So, there's a GOOD chance that the board Dan has is the base Centris 650 board. -- the pickle -J -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Re(2): QuadDoubler results are in!!!
I downloaded a program called Mactracker, but I think it is more of a database, than machine level diagnostics to determine the specs. John _ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmailxAPID=42PS=47575PI=7324DI=7474SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsgHL=1216hotmailtaglines_advancedjmf_3mf -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: QuadDoubler
Dear Quadraphiles: Sorry I'm coming late to this party, but this time of year is pretty busy for us clergy-types, so I've been behind on my e-mail. The pickle alluded to my experience with QuadDoublers yesterday when he wrote: If it has its own clock generator (where's Rob Johanssen when you need him?) then it should work just fine. The Pickle and I had a look over a QuadDoubler-type gadget (see below) last summer. QuadDoublers DO NOT have their own clock chips. They do exactly what the name implies, double the clock speed (bus speed) of the main oscillator. They have a little chip on them which effects this. The only gadget I'm aware of with it's own clock generator is something made by Newer Tech in the early 90's for the Q950, which will run that machine at 50 mHz. It has its own Motorola clock generator chip which is programmable to 1.33, 1.5, and 2.0 times the oscillator frequency. It also has what appears to be its own on-board cache. The CPU has an integral cooling fan on its heatsink. I have tried that in my 950, and it did boot and report a speed of 50mHz. However, I could not get it to run stably under OS 7.6.1. It brought up all kinds of strange errors, bombs and hangs. Furthermore, the software that came with it did not appear to function. I have always meant to experiment with backing the OS down to 7.5 or 7.1, and putting scrupulously tested 60 ns RAM in it, but this 950 is heavily used and I just haven't gotten around to that project yet. I've tried QuadDoublers in several different machines, with mixed results. I have tried running one in my Q950, and it's not a matter of overheating: the thing won't even start up. You just can't get that thing to run at 66 mHz. It will work in a Q700. I even put it into a Q605 for grins, and it worked OK there, though you couldn't close the case back up. It was kind of neat playing Doom II for an hour or so on that 605 cooking along at 50 mHz. I was glad to read of Dan's success with his 'doubler. I share his mixed feelings, though. It seems to me that the performance bump you get from these things is not worth the trouble or expense of dealing with them. If you can get one cheap (under $30-40) and don't expect miracles, go ahead. But the fact is that you can get a PPC upgrade for most Quads for $60-80 on eBay and really get a performance boost. In my opinion, the QuadDoubler is not much more than a curiosity. Pax, Fr. Rob Johansen -- A computer without Windows is like a dog without bricks tied to its head. Fr. Rob Johansen St. Joseph, Michigan Check out my Blog at: http://www.ThrownBack.blogspot.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: QuadDoubler results are in!!!
It is DEFINITELY a Centris 650 board. You dont need to double check, it will be a waste of time, because it is DEFINITELY a Centris 650. Anyway, Im interested in this accelerator that will work in a Quadra 950. Does it plug into the processor slot or the PDS slot? Chris -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: QuadDoubler
Well I'll tell you all it was NOT worth the incredible price I paid for all of this stuff. I did not buy it on ebay because I hate ebay. Instead I bought them from a reseller. This QuadDoubler with warrantee in a Centris 650 board and 128 megs of RAM cost me about $200. And the damn thing doesnt even work in the Q800. No it was not worth it all. Thank god I have money to waste. I still don't know what I'm going to do about MicroMac. Should I call them? Complain? DONT BUY FROM MICROMAC on 12/24/02 11:28 AM, Robert J. Johansen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was glad to read of Dan's success with his 'doubler. I share his mixed feelings, though. It seems to me that the performance bump you get from these things is not worth the trouble or expense of dealing with them. If you can get one cheap (under $30-40) and don't expect miracles, go ahead. But the fact is that you can get a PPC upgrade for most Quads for $60-80 on eBay and really get a performance boost. In my opinion, the QuadDoubler is not much more than a curiosity -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re(2): QuadDoubler results are in!!!
At 22:56 -0600 on 23/12/02, Dan Palka wrote: Is there a downloadable program to actually tell me what kind of computer I have? There are a lot that will read the gestalt ID; Apple System Profiler is probably the most reliable at translating that to a machine name but it doesn't work well on 68Ks unless you're running 8.1. MacEnvy and TattleTech are great for extracting the gestalt ID, and putting that along with gestalt ID into the search engine in the Apple knowledge base will usually find everything you need on *any* Mac. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Re(2): QuadDoubler results are in!!!
At 08:07 -0700 on 24/12/02, J Sand wrote: I downloaded a program called Mactracker, but I think it is more of a database, than machine level diagnostics to determine the specs. That's precisely what it is, and its system requirements are why I still prefer GURU for that sort of thing. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re(3): QuadDoubler results are in!!!
Well its benchmarking (and simply is working) immensely faster. Merry Christmas to all. -- From: Quadlist, Tue, Dec 24, 2002 -- It shouldn't be benchmarking faster if it's a C650. It should be benchmarking about 30% slower. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Quaddoubler
It shouldn't be benchmarking faster if it's a C650. It should be benchmarking about 30% slower. Well its benchmarking (and simply is working) immensely faster. That's the C650 board with quaddoubler, benchmarking faster than the normal Q800 right?. Just to be clear on things :) (assuming it is a C650 board) dana -- http://www.danamania.com/ -- -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re(2): QuadDoubler
Well I'll get that to you then in the next couple of days. Meanwhile you can all see the Speedometer Results in jpg format here: http://www.palkasoft.net/graph.jpg And to clear thi ngs up, yes it is the Centris 650 board with the QuadDoubler in it. But I thought that was already established. -- From: Quadlist, Tue, Dec 24, 2002 -- I still want to see a scan of that board. If your benchmark results are correct, that 650 board is running about 50% faster than it's supposed to be. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Re(2): Question the QuadDoubler WONT WORK!!!
On Monday, Dec 23, 2002, at 03:30 Europe/London, Dan Palka wrote: I don't know who to belive anymore. I got people on one side telling me it won't work, people telling me it *could* work, people telling me it will definetly work, and one guy that gave me a guarantee and warantee on it that it will work There's no way it'll work (just to throw another hat in the ring) as it's designed for 20 and 25MHz Quadras. Anything faster than that and you will likely kill the CPU within seconds if it even boots. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Re(2): Question the QuadDoubler WONT WORK!!!
Well again I'll cross my fingers. Boy oh boy will I be pd if it doesn't work though. Its supposed to be a Christmas gift to me from someone else, ordered through me. Not only that, I'll just be pd because I hate having my time wasted by other people's stupidity. And a week is a LONNG time to be wasted = extra pd. I hope not only for my sake, but for the sake of MicroMac Corporation that this thing works. It comes in today. All will be revealed shortly (PS I sent this twice because the first time I had the clock on my G3 set back 6 months so I can still use my evaluation copy of Photoshop 7. This email should be fine.) on 12/23/02 1:03 AM, the pickle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 21:30 -0600 on 22/12/02, Dan Palka wrote: I don't know who to belive anymore. I got people on one side telling me it won't work, people telling me it *could* work, people telling me it will definetly work, and one guy that gave me a guarantee and warantee on it that I suspect Chris is right, and it derives its onboard clock from the onboard clock of the computer it's installed in, which would indeed make it run at 66 MHz in a Q800, which is never going to work. If it has its own clock generator (where's Rob Johanssen when you need him?) then it should work just fine. Of course, since you have a warranty on it, I guess *their* stupidity is probably covered by it ;) If it were me and I had paid for the part and *didn't* have a warranty, I certainly wouldn't do anything until I had determined whether or not it generated its own clock signal. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
QuadDoubler results are in!!!
I know everybodys just DYING to hear the results of the QuadDoubler. I have mixed feelings about it. Here they are: Well the QuadDoubler came in the mail today. Surprise surprise it doesn't work in the Quadra 800. However it does work in the motherboard they sent me. On close inspection, I was rather surpirsed that whatever motherboard MicroMac sent me is an exact replica of the Quadra 800 motherboard, EXCEPT for a couple of chips missing... There is no onboard network jack (which i know all 800s had), therefore it is missing the Sonic chip as well (theres just a blank square on the mystery motherboard). MicroMac was thoughtful enough to randomly send a nice Nubus ethernet card though, which has the strange Apple Connector on it, as well as the missing Sonic chip. So i'm gussing that card was originally made to just give the mystery motherboard all of the identical onboard networking capeabilities as the 800. It is also missing 8 of the chips labled U. So I'm guessing that those are the onboard RAM, which would explain why the mystery motherboard has about 4 megs less ram than the Q800 when the same ram sticks are installed in each. Now as you can imagine I was getting P-Oed. The 800 motherboard wouldnt boot with the QuadDoubler as some of you said it wouldnt. Now I was just about ready to pack all this back up for MicroMac, but decided to load all the RAM and VRAM from the 800 motherboard onto the mystery motherboard and give it a run in the Quadra 800 case. Before I did this I ran the full Speedometer tests on the 800. I really wanted to know how much of a difference this thing was. So I saved the tests and did the board swap. After booting up from the mystery board, I ran speedometer again. WOW. The speed of this mystery board was immensely different from the Quadra 800 motherboard. Speedometer reported results I would consider fairly significant. In fact, every single Speedometer test (it runs 26 different tests for various parts of the computer) was faster on the mystery motherboard than on the 800, except for two. 8 bit and 16 bit video are slightly slower on the mystery board than on the 800. But the rest of the video is faster as well as the rest of all the tests. To just make sure for myself, I ran the only program I had that ran slow on the old Quadra 800 board. MpegDec. It was very important to me that my Quadra play mp3s. I have a lot of them. And the Quadra 800 didnt do it very well, even with a downsample of 2 of and quality 2 setting within MpegDec. And the Quadra simply WOULD not do it with a downsample of only 1, even with a quality of only 1. MpegDec plays my Mp3s absolutely perfectly with a downsample of 1 and quality 2 (the highest, and usually slowest settings for mpegdec, this setting usually froze up the 33mhz Quadra 800 board.) on the mystery motherboard. That was enough for me. So now the board is happily speeding along as i type this. I decided I'm going to keep his processor and board. Maybe it was a misunderstanding? After all he had a heavy german accent. I don't know what I should do about MicroMac, but I do know I will NEVER buy anything from MicroMac again, and I advise you dont either. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: QuadDoubler results are in!!!
Yes, the Centris 650 board with 50MHz 68040 you have seems to outperform a Quadra 800. However, a Quadra 800 can be clock chipped to 44MHz, or 48MHz if you dont need the serial ports. That processor speed combined with an equivelant bus speed, however, may outperform a 50MHz 68040 on a 25MHz bus. And though it would take some soldering, if you have the correct solder and a soldering iron, would only cost $5. That being said, you may be able to bumb the speed of the MicroMac to 55MHz, give or take. Chris -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: QuadDoubler results are in!!!
At 13:52 -0600 on 23/12/02, Dan Palka wrote: On close inspection, I was rather surpirsed that whatever motherboard MicroMac sent me is an exact replica of the Quadra 800 motherboard, EXCEPT for a couple of chips missing... Got a scanner? -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: QuadDoubler results are in!!!
On Monday, Dec 23, 2002, at 22:03 US/Eastern, the pickle wrote: At 13:52 -0600 on 23/12/02, Dan Palka wrote: On close inspection, I was rather surpirsed that whatever motherboard MicroMac sent me is an exact replica of the Quadra 800 motherboard, EXCEPT for a couple of chips missing... Got a scanner? -- the pickle The Quadra 800=Quadra 650 and very similar to the Centris 650, could that be what you have? -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: QuadDoubler results are in!!!
At 22:28 -0500 on 23/12/02, P.F.Grenier wrote: On Monday, Dec 23, 2002, at 22:03 US/Eastern, the pickle wrote: At 13:52 -0600 on 23/12/02, Dan Palka wrote: On close inspection, I was rather surpirsed that whatever motherboard MicroMac sent me is an exact replica of the Quadra 800 motherboard, EXCEPT for a couple of chips missing... Got a scanner? -- the pickle The Quadra 800=Quadra 650 and very similar to the Centris 650, could that be what you have? They both had Ethernet on-board, and neither would benchmark faster in Speedometer. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: QuadDoubler results are in!!!
On Monday, Dec 23, 2002, at 22:32 US/Eastern, the pickle wrote: At 22:28 -0500 on 23/12/02, P.F.Grenier wrote: On Monday, Dec 23, 2002, at 22:03 US/Eastern, the pickle wrote: At 13:52 -0600 on 23/12/02, Dan Palka wrote: On close inspection, I was rather surpirsed that whatever motherboard MicroMac sent me is an exact replica of the Quadra 800 motherboard, EXCEPT for a couple of chips missing... Got a scanner? -- the pickle The Quadra 800=Quadra 650 and very similar to the Centris 650, could that be what you have? They both had Ethernet on-board, and neither would benchmark faster in Speedometer. -- Early Centris 650's didn't have the AAUI and only had 4MB ram on board. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re(2): QuadDoubler results are in!!!
Is there a downloadable program to actually tell me what kind of computer I have? -- From: Quadlist, Mon, Dec 23, 2002 -- The Quadra 800=Quadra 650 and very similar to the Centris 650, could that be what you have? -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re(2): QuadDoubler results are in!!!
This must be what I have then because It has 4mb of onboard ram not 8, and no AAUI -- From: Quadlist, Mon, Dec 23, 2002 -- Early Centris 650's didn't have the AAUI and only had 4MB ram on board. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Re(2): QuadDoubler results are in!!!
On Monday, Dec 23, 2002, at 23:56 US/Eastern, Dan Palka wrote: Is there a downloadable program to actually tell me what kind of computer I have? -- From: Quadlist, Mon, Dec 23, 2002 -- The Quadra 800=Quadra 650 and very similar to the Centris 650, could that be what you have? Download Mactracker and read the LEM profiles. Here is the OS 8-9 version: http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=10026db=mac -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re(2): Question the QuadDoubler WONT WORK!!!
I don't know who to belive anymore. I got people on one side telling me it won't work, people telling me it *could* work, people telling me it will definetly work, and one guy that gave me a guarantee and warantee on it that it will work AHHH! I guess we'll all just have to wait in suspense until it comes in. -- From: Quadlist, Sun, Dec 22, 2002 -- At 21:49 -0500 on 22/12/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The QuadDoubler WILL NOT WORK in a Quadra 800. The QuadDoubler doubles the bus speed of the computer it is installed in. That would run it at 66MHz in the Quadra 800. That just wont happen. The only way to get it to work is to decrease the bus speed or seriously cool it (66MHz could probably use some water cooling). Decreasing the bus speed would decrease performance. The There's no way in hell you'll ever get a 40 MHz part working at 66 MHz with water cooling. You *might* get it working *a little bit* with liquid N2. board they are sending you is most likely a Centris 650, which runs at 25MHz but is very similar to a Quadra 800 board. You could downclock the Q800 board pretty easily... -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PowerTalk [was] Re(2): Question the QuadDoubler
on 20/12/2002, J Sand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Centris 610 only has 7.1 OS on it, will I need to upgrade to at least 7.5.3 OS to use the features you mentioned for PowerTalk? It shipped with 7.1.1 (System 7 Pro) and was installed by default with that OS. By 7.5 it was an install it if you want to option. As mentioned before, the DL of 7.5.3 at Apple doesn't contain it. But if you want to try PowerTalk, you can FTP it from Apple, here: ftp://ftp.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North _American/Macintosh/System/Older_System/PowerTalk/ Mike -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Question the QuadDoubler
At 22:16 -0600 on 20/12/02, Dan Palka wrote: refuse to upgrade to 8, I refuse to put a PowerPC chip in here, and I think PowerTalk operating system integrated email services is the coolest thing I have ever seen. Unfortunately, you're one of about five people who thought that... ;) For what reasons? I'm using PowerTalk right now, I think its fantastic that I Beats me. I never used it, and Apple dropped it after 7.5.5 because nobody was using it. AFAIK it's not even a 50 MHz part - it's an overclocked 40 MHz part. Let us know when you get it, though, whether it has 68040RC40 or 68040RC50 as the part number. Why whats the difference between the two? Reliability and honesty on the part of the manufacturer as far as I'm concerned. I read somewhere that one model had 128kb L2 cache, and the guy on the phone from MicroMac said the one he was sending me had Cache. I'm not sure if I can belive this though, is there any way I can test to see if it actually does? Look at it. There'll be cache on it, very obviously, in the form of four or eight identical chips. In fact, is there any utility with which I can test a processors actual true clock speed? Clockometer is probably your best bet for an older Mac like that. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re(3): Question the QuadDoubler
Well its not going to be if you have multiple accounts. However, I find that every feature I could possibly want is included in PowerTalk, so why have a separate application such as Eudora that just taxes system performance on older machines even further when you can just have the MacOS do everything for you? What ever happened to the idea of simplicity? Isn't that the foundation of the Macintosh? I don't find Eudora a very simple or pleasant program for that matter. Besides, PowerTalk is Apple. Eudora isn't. -- From: Quadlist, Fri, Dec 20, 2002 -- However, you're gonna have a *very* hard time convincing me that PowerTalk is any better for people with only one e-mail account than Eudora Light, let alone people with multiple accounts. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re(4): Question the QuadDoubler
Geez... I'll no longer try to convice you then. And its called PowerTalk. And where do you come up with these statistics of most people? Most people I know do only simple things: Read mail. Write mail. Send Mail. Reply to Mail. What super advanced features that everybody uses does Eudora have over PowerTalk? I prefer PowerTalk. I don't need bells and whistles, and I'll gladly give them up for superfast performance and simplicity. And I know theres probably others on here who would also, especially on 040 macs. -- From: Quadlist, Fri, Dec 20, 2002 -- However, I find that every feature I could possibly want is included in PowerTalk, so why have a separate application such as Eudora that just taxes system performance on older machines even further when you can just have the MacOS do everything for you? Because Eudora *doesn't* tax the system performance on older Macs? :) It's about the most resource-efficient app I've *ever* seen. Of course, it's not as fast as the Finder, but it's a lot more powerful than PowerMail, too... What ever happened to the idea of simplicity? Isn't that the foundation of the Macintosh? I don't find Eudora a very simple or pleasant program for that matter. Besides, PowerTalk is Apple. Eudora isn't. You know, if Apple wrote an e-mail program that was worth a damn, I'd use it, but they don't, and for most people, something like PowerMail is entirely insufficient. It was never designed to handle Internet mail the way most people use mail on the 'Net. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Re(2): Question the QuadDoubler
At 22:25 -0700 on 20/12/02, J Sand wrote: My Centris 610 only has 7.1 OS on it, will I need to upgrade to at least 7.5.3 OS to use the features you mentioned for PowerTalk? Yeah, and I don't think it's included with the downloadable 7.5.3 either. I think you have to install from a 7.5.x bundled CD or retail version. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re(2): Re(2): Question the QuadDoubler
Well, your right about it being in the CD. However if you download 7.5.3 from info.apple, I know PowerTalk is floating around nearby as well. -- From: Quadlist, Fri, Dec 20, 2002 -- Yeah, and I don't think it's included with the downloadable 7.5.3 either. I think you have to install from a 7.5.x bundled CD or retail version. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re(3): Re(2): Question the QuadDoubler
exactly :) -- From: Quadlist, Fri, Dec 20, 2002 -- to each their own -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re(4): Question the QuadDoubler
Yeah, I meant PowerTalk. Been digging up obscure translator info all night on POP3 clients and PowerMail is another Mac mail client. At 23:34 -0600 on 20/12/02, Dan Palka wrote: And where do you come up with these statistics of most people? Most people Most people I know have more than one e-mail account, which certainly doesn't leave much room for something like PowerTalk... Hey, can you filter mail into separate mailboxes with PowerTalk? How 'bout setting up multiple reply-to addresses so that list mail can appear to come from one address and personal mail from another? How standard is the mailbox format, so if you ever move to another system you'll be able to migrate easily? Can you export/import your address book to other apps easily? And most importantly: Can PowerTalk turn off the damn multilevel reply thing so that it just sticks in Re: no matter how many times it has seen the thread title before? -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re(5): Question the QuadDoubler
Well most people I know don't use those things, but your answers are, in order they were asked: Yes. Not Sure. Not Sure. There is no Address Book. Instead there are Catalogs which are sortof the same thing but a litle different, a little more versatile. I'm growing tired of explaining PowerTalk however so if you want to find out more you have some homework to do. No. -- From: Quadlist, Fri, Dec 20, 2002 -- Most people I know have more than one e-mail account, which certainly doesn't leave much room for something like PowerTalk... Hey, can you filter mail into separate mailboxes with PowerTalk? How 'bout setting up multiple reply-to addresses so that list mail can appear to come from one address and personal mail from another? How standard is the mailbox format, so if you ever move to another system you'll be able to migrate easily? Can you export/import your address book to other apps easily? And most importantly: Can PowerTalk turn off the damn multilevel reply thing so that it just sticks in Re: no matter how many times it has seen the thread title before? -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quaddoubler Problem
ORIGINAL MESSAGE: Anyone on the list have experience with Quaddoublers? I have a Quadra 700 I leave on for months at a time as an OpenBSD box doing some minor tasks, and I noticed when it's given very intense tasks (like for instance, today when I was compiling OpenSSH), it tends to have stability issues. I noticed the Quaddoubler pictured on Sonnet's web site does not have a fan, but a heatsink. For some reason my Quaddoubler has a fan attached, which doesn't seem to be cooling it effectively. Anyone think replacing the fan on the Quaddoubler with the original Quadra heatsink would yield better results? How about combining heatsink AND fan? This should, at least theoretically, increase the cooling. Let us know the results in case you try. Steff -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Quaddoubler Problem
Anyone on the list have experience with Quaddoublers? I have a Quadra 700 I leave on for months at a time as an OpenBSD box doing some minor tasks, and I noticed when it's given very intense tasks (like for instance, today when I was compiling OpenSSH), it tends to have stability issues. I believe there's an overheating problem with the processor, since after a crash in OpenBSD (while the processor is still very hot) the system becomes incredibly unstable in OS 7.6. If I power it off for a few minutes, or just let it sit idle, things return back to normal. Also, if I return the original 25mhz CPU things are okay again. I noticed the Quaddoubler pictured on Sonnet's web site does not have a fan, but a heatsink. For some reason my Quaddoubler has a fan attached, which doesn't seem to be cooling it effectively. Anyone think replacing the fan on the Quaddoubler with the original Quadra heatsink would yield better results? It's very rare that I work this system hard, so it's generally not an issue; would still be nice to fix it though. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quaddoubler
On Wednesday, March 27, 2002, at 05:35 AM, Haroon wrote: Just closed a deal on one of these used. Anyone had experience with them? Do they generally perform well? I'll be using it on a machine that's running OpenBSD 3.0. Also, I ordered some memory from SA Tech, but they didn't include the shipping costs in the totals. Do they just add it on later? Send it postage due? Which Quadra are you using it in? -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quaddoubler
Which Quadra are you using it in? Quadra 700. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quaddoubler
On Wednesday, March 27, 2002, at 05:45 PM, Haroon wrote: Which Quadra are you using it in? Quadra 700. Should be OK, It is not recommended on a 660av, which is why I asked, as someone recently suggested it wasn't worth the time and was unstable. The same person also said it would be much better in a Q700. Are you buying it new or used? -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny aka silicon_valley_pirate_uk (Yahoo! Messenger) SilValleyPirate (AOL Instant Messenger) Visit Flat Pack Macs Online at: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC central i was Born in England -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Quaddoubler and OpenBSD 3.0
I'm thinking about buying a Quaddoubler for my Quadra 700. Does anyone know if OpenBSD 3.0 m68k will support it properly? I'm guessing since it's a complete CPU replacement it shouldn't be much of a problem, but I'm not sure. Don't want to throw down $100 for nothing . . . -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
