[Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

2019-09-13 Thread russ price 
Bill - Thanks for looking.

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote:
>
>  I have a an H4 with a 2.0 litre silver top, the gearbox is rod operated 
> and the gearlever return spring has failed, which i believe is located deep 
> in the bowels of the g/box, second gear also has a tendency to crunch 
> changing down. I think it will be easier and cheaper to change the box 
> rather than repair it. The question is what is  suitable box. This one 
> perhaps :- ebay g/box 
> 
> I would have to swap the bell housing as i have a cable clutch but that 
> shouln't be a big deal.  
> Any observations/suggestions plesase?
> Russ
>

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

2019-09-12 Thread bill 
I’ll have to take another look Russ, i only looked at it from above, not where 
extra webbing is
Bill

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On 12 Sep 2019, at 10:35, russ price 
mailto:flobra...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Bill- Seems i jumped the gun, is one of the gearboxes you have a an IB5?
Russ

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote:
 I have a an H4 with a 2.0 litre silver top, the gearbox is rod operated and 
the gearlever return spring has failed, which i believe is located deep in the 
bowels of the g/box, second gear also has a tendency to crunch changing down. I 
think it will be easier and cheaper to change the box rather than repair it. 
The question is what is  suitable box. This one perhaps :- ebay 
g/box
I would have to swap the bell housing as i have a cable clutch but that 
shouln't be a big deal.
Any observations/suggestions plesase?
Russ

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[Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

2019-09-12 Thread russ price 
Bill- Seems i jumped the gun, is one of the gearboxes you have a an IB5?
Russ

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote:
>
>  I have a an H4 with a 2.0 litre silver top, the gearbox is rod operated 
> and the gearlever return spring has failed, which i believe is located deep 
> in the bowels of the g/box, second gear also has a tendency to crunch 
> changing down. I think it will be easier and cheaper to change the box 
> rather than repair it. The question is what is  suitable box. This one 
> perhaps :- ebay g/box 
> 
> I would have to swap the bell housing as i have a cable clutch but that 
> shouln't be a big deal.  
> Any observations/suggestions plesase?
> Russ
>

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[Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

2019-09-11 Thread russ price 
Bill- Thanks for the part numbers i'll keep them in mind but it looks like 
i should go with a stronger box if possible

Jim- Is this what i'm looking for? If i understand correctly it maybe from 
a 2000 car but it's a '96 g/box - ebay 


Russ

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote:
>
>  I have a an H4 with a 2.0 litre silver top, the gearbox is rod operated 
> and the gearlever return spring has failed, which i believe is located deep 
> in the bowels of the g/box, second gear also has a tendency to crunch 
> changing down. I think it will be easier and cheaper to change the box 
> rather than repair it. The question is what is  suitable box. This one 
> perhaps :- ebay g/box 
> 
> I would have to swap the bell housing as i have a cable clutch but that 
> shouln't be a big deal.  
> Any observations/suggestions plesase?
> Russ
>

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

2019-09-11 Thread Jim Hearne 
That would fit.
The older one is probably a B5 and the newer one maybe a IB5, if you compare 
the 2 you will see more webs in the casting if it’s a IB5

Jim


From: bill 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 2:57 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

Earlier one from xr2i with cvh engine, other from escort I believe with 1.8 
zetec 
Bill 


Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Sep 2019, at 14:50, Jim Hearne  wrote:


  Yes, they are the year, so those are probably Mk3 Fiesta B5 or IB5 gearboxes.
  Even a really tame Ford dealer struggled to decode the rest of the numbers on 
the tags many years ago.

  Jim


  From: bill 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 2:26 PM
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

  I’ve just checked on the two gearboxes I have, the tags read 
  89 WT BA
  FOG OC 30C
  And
  91 WT MB
  FOB4 106
  To me only the 89 and 91 would make sense, if they denote the year, otherwise?
  Bill


  Sent from my iPhone

  On 11 Sep 2019, at 13:01, Jim Hearne  wrote:


Actually, they could be B5 from 1987, i think when the gearlever gate was 
moved into the gearbox was B5
Externally the BC and B5 look almost the same.
The IB5 is easier to tell as it has a lot more external webbing as well as 
even more uprated bearings.

Jim


From: Jim Hearne 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:46 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

The important numbers for the gearboxes are what is on the metal tag that 
should be under one of the bolts holding the 2 gearbox halves together..
The number cast on the gearbox is just for that casting, the only useful 
bit is the 87 which means that part was first used in 1987.
So they are probably both Mk2 Fiesta BC boxes

Not the strongest boxes for a 2.0 or ST170 engine.

There is a lot of confusion on the net over which boxes are BC, B5 and IB5 
(Improved B5).

Jim


From: russ price 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:30 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

The numbers cast on the gearbox  are on the H4- 87 TT 7F 096 AB  on the 
saloon- 87 TT 060 AA. I'm unable to find these listed anywhere online. 
Descriptions/images on websites appear contradictory but BC type seems the most 
likely.
Can anyone decypher the numbers please?
Russ


On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote: 
  I have a an H4 with a 2.0 litre silver top, the gearbox is rod operated 
and the gearlever return spring has failed, which i believe is located deep in 
the bowels of the g/box, second gear also has a tendency to crunch changing 
down. I think it will be easier and cheaper to change the box rather than 
repair it. The question is what is  suitable box. This one perhaps :- ebay g/box
  I would have to swap the bell housing as i have a cable clutch but that 
shouln't be a big deal.  

  Any observations/suggestions plesase?
  Russ

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

2019-09-11 Thread bill 
Earlier one from xr2i with cvh engine, other from escort I believe with 1.8 
zetec
Bill

Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Sep 2019, at 14:50, Jim Hearne 
mailto:j...@quantums.info>> wrote:

Yes, they are the year, so those are probably Mk3 Fiesta B5 or IB5 gearboxes.
Even a really tame Ford dealer struggled to decode the rest of the numbers on 
the tags many years ago.

Jim


From: bill
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 2:26 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

I’ve just checked on the two gearboxes I have, the tags read
89 WT BA
FOG OC 30C
And
91 WT MB
FOB4 106
To me only the 89 and 91 would make sense, if they denote the year, otherwise?
Bill

Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Sep 2019, at 13:01, Jim Hearne  wrote:

Actually, they could be B5 from 1987, i think when the gearlever gate was moved 
into the gearbox was B5
Externally the BC and B5 look almost the same.
The IB5 is easier to tell as it has a lot more external webbing as well as even 
more uprated bearings.

Jim


From: Jim Hearne
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:46 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

The important numbers for the gearboxes are what is on the metal tag that 
should be under one of the bolts holding the 2 gearbox halves together..
The number cast on the gearbox is just for that casting, the only useful bit is 
the 87 which means that part was first used in 1987.
So they are probably both Mk2 Fiesta BC boxes

Not the strongest boxes for a 2.0 or ST170 engine.

There is a lot of confusion on the net over which boxes are BC, B5 and IB5 
(Improved B5).

Jim


From: russ price
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:30 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

The numbers cast on the gearbox  are on the H4- 87 TT 7F 096 AB  on the saloon- 
87 TT 060 AA. I'm unable to find these listed anywhere online. 
Descriptions/images on websites appear contradictory but BC type seems the most 
likely.
Can anyone decypher the numbers please?
Russ

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote:
I have a an H4 with a 2.0 litre silver top, the gearbox is rod operated and the 
gearlever return spring has failed, which i believe is located deep in the 
bowels of the g/box, second gear also has a tendency to crunch changing down. I 
think it will be easier and cheaper to change the box rather than repair it. 
The question is what is  suitable box. This one perhaps :- ebay 
g/box<https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-Ford-Fiesta-MK5-1-6-Petrol-Manual-Gearbox-ONLY-43-124-Miles-96WT-7F096-AB/153270597837?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
I would have to swap the bell housing as i have a cable clutch but that 
shouln't be a big deal.
Any observations/suggestions plesase?
Russ
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

2019-09-11 Thread Jim Hearne 
The strongest box that should fit straight on is from a Mk3.5 Fiesta Diesel.
But, it’s quite high geared so you will get nice relaxed cruising on the 
Motorway but at the expense of some acceleration.

One from a Fiesta RST with a LSD would also be good but it would only be a B5 
not a IB5.

Or, one from a Mk5 Escort 1.6 or 1.8 ps Zetec, the later of these have the 
starter at the rear of the gearbox but a matching starter and a bit of wiring 
and it will work.
Not the 130ps 1.8 XR3I as that had the MTX75 gearbox, completely different.
You may have to mess around finding a combination of clutch release bearings 
and clutch.
And don’t go too late or it will have a hydraulic clutch instead of cable.
1995 was about the latest i think.

My 2+2 ZVH Turbo and Matthew’s (now Roberts) Zetec turbo are both running 
Escort Mk5 IB5 gearboxes with Mk4 Escort RST LSD’s fitted into them.

Jim

From: russ price 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 2:28 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

I did wonder about 87 meaning 1987 but thought it too much of a coincedence to 
have 2 gear boxes from the same year, especially as the H4 was supposedly built 
from a 95 donor car. The metal tags are of course missing on both cars.

The question now is if the BC box is on the weak side, which gearbox(s) should 
i be looking for?
Russ



On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote: 
  I have a an H4 with a 2.0 litre silver top, the gearbox is rod operated and 
the gearlever return spring has failed, which i believe is located deep in the 
bowels of the g/box, second gear also has a tendency to crunch changing down. I 
think it will be easier and cheaper to change the box rather than repair it. 
The question is what is  suitable box. This one perhaps :- ebay g/box
  I would have to swap the bell housing as i have a cable clutch but that 
shouln't be a big deal.  

  Any observations/suggestions plesase?
  Russ

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

2019-09-11 Thread Jim Hearne 
Yes, they are the year, so those are probably Mk3 Fiesta B5 or IB5 gearboxes.
Even a really tame Ford dealer struggled to decode the rest of the numbers on 
the tags many years ago.

Jim


From: bill 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 2:26 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

I’ve just checked on the two gearboxes I have, the tags read 
89 WT BA
FOG OC 30C
And
91 WT MB
FOB4 106
To me only the 89 and 91 would make sense, if they denote the year, otherwise?
Bill


Sent from my iPhone

On 11 Sep 2019, at 13:01, Jim Hearne  wrote:


  Actually, they could be B5 from 1987, i think when the gearlever gate was 
moved into the gearbox was B5
  Externally the BC and B5 look almost the same.
  The IB5 is easier to tell as it has a lot more external webbing as well as 
even more uprated bearings.

  Jim


  From: Jim Hearne 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:46 PM
  To: Quantum Owners Group 
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

  The important numbers for the gearboxes are what is on the metal tag that 
should be under one of the bolts holding the 2 gearbox halves together..
  The number cast on the gearbox is just for that casting, the only useful bit 
is the 87 which means that part was first used in 1987.
  So they are probably both Mk2 Fiesta BC boxes

  Not the strongest boxes for a 2.0 or ST170 engine.

  There is a lot of confusion on the net over which boxes are BC, B5 and IB5 
(Improved B5).

  Jim


  From: russ price 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:30 PM
  To: Quantum Owners Group 
  Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

  The numbers cast on the gearbox  are on the H4- 87 TT 7F 096 AB  on the 
saloon- 87 TT 060 AA. I'm unable to find these listed anywhere online. 
Descriptions/images on websites appear contradictory but BC type seems the most 
likely.
  Can anyone decypher the numbers please?
  Russ


  On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote: 
I have a an H4 with a 2.0 litre silver top, the gearbox is rod operated and 
the gearlever return spring has failed, which i believe is located deep in the 
bowels of the g/box, second gear also has a tendency to crunch changing down. I 
think it will be easier and cheaper to change the box rather than repair it. 
The question is what is  suitable box. This one perhaps :- ebay g/box
I would have to swap the bell housing as i have a cable clutch but that 
shouln't be a big deal.  

Any observations/suggestions plesase?
Russ

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

2019-09-11 Thread bill 
I’ve just checked on the two gearboxes I have, the tags read
89 WT BA
FOG OC 30C
And
91 WT MB
FOB4 106
To me only the 89 and 91 would make sense, if they denote the year, otherwise?
Bill

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On 11 Sep 2019, at 13:01, Jim Hearne 
mailto:j...@quantums.info>> wrote:

Actually, they could be B5 from 1987, i think when the gearlever gate was moved 
into the gearbox was B5
Externally the BC and B5 look almost the same.
The IB5 is easier to tell as it has a lot more external webbing as well as even 
more uprated bearings.

Jim


From: Jim Hearne
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:46 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

The important numbers for the gearboxes are what is on the metal tag that 
should be under one of the bolts holding the 2 gearbox halves together..
The number cast on the gearbox is just for that casting, the only useful bit is 
the 87 which means that part was first used in 1987.
So they are probably both Mk2 Fiesta BC boxes

Not the strongest boxes for a 2.0 or ST170 engine.

There is a lot of confusion on the net over which boxes are BC, B5 and IB5 
(Improved B5).

Jim


From: russ price
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:30 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

The numbers cast on the gearbox  are on the H4- 87 TT 7F 096 AB  on the saloon- 
87 TT 060 AA. I'm unable to find these listed anywhere online. 
Descriptions/images on websites appear contradictory but BC type seems the most 
likely.
Can anyone decypher the numbers please?
Russ

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote:
I have a an H4 with a 2.0 litre silver top, the gearbox is rod operated and the 
gearlever return spring has failed, which i believe is located deep in the 
bowels of the g/box, second gear also has a tendency to crunch changing down. I 
think it will be easier and cheaper to change the box rather than repair it. 
The question is what is  suitable box. This one perhaps :- ebay 
g/box<https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-Ford-Fiesta-MK5-1-6-Petrol-Manual-Gearbox-ONLY-43-124-Miles-96WT-7F096-AB/153270597837?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649>
I would have to swap the bell housing as i have a cable clutch but that 
shouln't be a big deal.
Any observations/suggestions plesase?
Russ
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[Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

2019-09-11 Thread russ price 
I did wonder about 87 meaning 1987 but thought it too much of a coincedence 
to have 2 gear boxes from the same year, especially as the H4 was 
supposedly built from a 95 donor car. The metal tags are of course missing 
on both cars.
The question now is if the BC box is on the weak side, which gearbox(s) 
should i be looking for?
Russ


On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote:
>
>  I have a an H4 with a 2.0 litre silver top, the gearbox is rod operated 
> and the gearlever return spring has failed, which i believe is located deep 
> in the bowels of the g/box, second gear also has a tendency to crunch 
> changing down. I think it will be easier and cheaper to change the box 
> rather than repair it. The question is what is  suitable box. This one 
> perhaps :- ebay g/box 
> 
> I would have to swap the bell housing as i have a cable clutch but that 
> shouln't be a big deal.  
> Any observations/suggestions plesase?
> Russ
>

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

2019-09-11 Thread Jim Hearne 
Actually, they could be B5 from 1987, i think when the gearlever gate was moved 
into the gearbox was B5
Externally the BC and B5 look almost the same.
The IB5 is easier to tell as it has a lot more external webbing as well as even 
more uprated bearings.

Jim


From: Jim Hearne 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:46 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

The important numbers for the gearboxes are what is on the metal tag that 
should be under one of the bolts holding the 2 gearbox halves together..
The number cast on the gearbox is just for that casting, the only useful bit is 
the 87 which means that part was first used in 1987.
So they are probably both Mk2 Fiesta BC boxes

Not the strongest boxes for a 2.0 or ST170 engine.

There is a lot of confusion on the net over which boxes are BC, B5 and IB5 
(Improved B5).

Jim


From: russ price 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:30 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

The numbers cast on the gearbox  are on the H4- 87 TT 7F 096 AB  on the saloon- 
87 TT 060 AA. I'm unable to find these listed anywhere online. 
Descriptions/images on websites appear contradictory but BC type seems the most 
likely.
Can anyone decypher the numbers please?
Russ


On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote: 
  I have a an H4 with a 2.0 litre silver top, the gearbox is rod operated and 
the gearlever return spring has failed, which i believe is located deep in the 
bowels of the g/box, second gear also has a tendency to crunch changing down. I 
think it will be easier and cheaper to change the box rather than repair it. 
The question is what is  suitable box. This one perhaps :- ebay g/box
  I would have to swap the bell housing as i have a cable clutch but that 
shouln't be a big deal.  

  Any observations/suggestions plesase?
  Russ

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

2019-09-11 Thread Jim Hearne 
The important numbers for the gearboxes are what is on the metal tag that 
should be under one of the bolts holding the 2 gearbox halves together..
The number cast on the gearbox is just for that casting, the only useful bit is 
the 87 which means that part was first used in 1987.
So they are probably both Mk2 Fiesta BC boxes

Not the strongest boxes for a 2.0 or ST170 engine.

There is a lot of confusion on the net over which boxes are BC, B5 and IB5 
(Improved B5).

Jim


From: russ price 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:30 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

The numbers cast on the gearbox  are on the H4- 87 TT 7F 096 AB  on the saloon- 
87 TT 060 AA. I'm unable to find these listed anywhere online. 
Descriptions/images on websites appear contradictory but BC type seems the most 
likely.
Can anyone decypher the numbers please?
Russ


On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote: 
  I have a an H4 with a 2.0 litre silver top, the gearbox is rod operated and 
the gearlever return spring has failed, which i believe is located deep in the 
bowels of the g/box, second gear also has a tendency to crunch changing down. I 
think it will be easier and cheaper to change the box rather than repair it. 
The question is what is  suitable box. This one perhaps :- ebay g/box
  I would have to swap the bell housing as i have a cable clutch but that 
shouln't be a big deal.  

  Any observations/suggestions plesase?
  Russ

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[Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

2019-09-11 Thread russ price 
The numbers cast on the gearbox  are on the H4- 87 TT 7F 096 AB  on the 
saloon- 87 TT 060 AA. I'm unable to find these listed anywhere online. 
Descriptions/images on websites appear contradictory but BC type seems the 
most likely.
Can anyone decypher the numbers please?
Russ

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote:
>
>  I have a an H4 with a 2.0 litre silver top, the gearbox is rod operated 
> and the gearlever return spring has failed, which i believe is located deep 
> in the bowels of the g/box, second gear also has a tendency to crunch 
> changing down. I think it will be easier and cheaper to change the box 
> rather than repair it. The question is what is  suitable box. This one 
> perhaps :- ebay g/box 
> 
> I would have to swap the bell housing as i have a cable clutch but that 
> shouln't be a big deal.  
> Any observations/suggestions plesase?
> Russ
>

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[Quantum Owners] Re: Gearbox H4

2019-09-10 Thread russ price 
Jim - Yes i see what you mean it's not at all suitable.

Bill - Thankyou I may well be interested in a gearbox.

I realise now some of the things i have been told about Ford BC  & IB5 
gearboxes is less than accurate. I need to look carefully at the gearbox in 
both cars (i also have a saloon with an ST170 engine with useable but weak 
gearlever return springs.)
Russ

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM UTC+1, russ price wrote:
>
>  I have a an H4 with a 2.0 litre silver top, the gearbox is rod operated 
> and the gearlever return spring has failed, which i believe is located deep 
> in the bowels of the g/box, second gear also has a tendency to crunch 
> changing down. I think it will be easier and cheaper to change the box 
> rather than repair it. The question is what is  suitable box. This one 
> perhaps :- ebay g/box 
> 
> I would have to swap the bell housing as i have a cable clutch but that 
> shouln't be a big deal.  
> Any observations/suggestions plesase?
> Russ 
>

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