Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

2018-07-23 Thread michaelhughes7a via Quantum Owners Group 
Having an odd fifth road wheel. 


  Not sure if Quantum spare wheels are all carried in a wheel well in the boot 
possibly some have the spare underneath the boot. Either way if you put wider 
wheels on the car the spare may not fit in its proper place. Some owners use a 
narrower tyre as a spare. This usually has a distinctive marking and use is 
restricted to emergencies



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From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
To: quantumowners 
Sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 11:50
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels



Martin,

Before giving away the XR2 Pepperpot you might want to check if  it is 
worth anything to someone with an XR2.  These cars are  getting rare, so a 
good condition original alloy wheel might be  worth something to the right 
person.

Regards,
  Steve



On 11/07/18 23:41, 'Martin Hodnett' via  Quantum Owners Group wrote:


  

Thank you everyone for your input, very helpful indeed. I  like these 
wheels, I can't imagine the car wearing anything  else!  I measured the 
width of the rim as 6" when I balanced  them so most likely they are a 
6J.  I am changing the front  brake calipers, when they arrive that is, 
and will check the  inside of the rims for any other markings and 
numbers.  That  will be a major cleaning job!




Regarding new wheels, I had specified the make, model and  year of the 
car and been told that the correct offset would be  applied at the time 
of ordering. I wasn't sure then about the  J part of it but with your 
help, that is much clearer.   Whatever I do, I must make sure they have 
four holes and not  five to mount the wheels on the hubs. This is a 
whole world I  never knew existed!




Regarding plastic rings to centre the wheels Hans, mine do  not have 
them at all.  The wheels are a nice snug fit when  pressed to the hub 
and hold well as the bolts are put in  place.  After I balanced the 
wheels, the wobble at around  60mph had gone.  A very useful tip 
nonetheless and one I will  bear in mind if I do change the wheels 
completely, the  companies I looked at all mentioned rings and I 
wondered what  they were for.




I would be interested to find out more Robmirach.  Apart  from the 
non-matching and missing centre covers, I do not have  a good spare 
either!  The boot contains an original XR2  pepperpot wheel with a tyre 
size that does not match the  rest.  There is also a honking great nail 
through the tread  that I hadn't notice in the last 15 years.  If 
anyone wants  the wheel, you are welcome - nail included!



Thanks again.

  
Martin

  
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

2018-07-12 Thread Susan and Martin Scott 
ISTR 60 is the sidewall height in percentage so 60/100 x 185 = 111mm, but I 
don't know how much accuracy there is with these measurements.
Martin Scott
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  From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
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  Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 6:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels


  MK2 XR2 original wheels have 185/60/13 tyres.

  185 is the tyre width in mm
  60   is the side wall height in mm
  13   is the wheel size in inches

  I changed to

  165/60/14MK3 Fiesta steel wheels

  This means the speedo will over-read by 1 mph.
  Its the closest I could get at the time.

  I currently have a MK4 Fiesta (parts bin) which is 185/55/14

  When these go onto the Q it should under-read by 1 mph, therefore taking me 
back to MK2 XR2 again. 

  Chris G


  From: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
  Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 5:28 PM
  To: Quantum Owners Group 
  Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

  Oh to have a tyre with knobbles on and not a nail!  A good suggestion Steve, 
will investigate.  Was considering using it as a planter for my petunias. 

  I noted that the pepperpot is a 6J rim and it has a 185/60 R13 tyre on, the 
current fitted road wheels are 6J's with 165/70 R13 tyres. I am assuming that 
there is an extra 2cm on the diameter of the wheels from what the xr2 had, so 
does that mean my speedo is under-reading? Must check it next time I go through 
one of those "check your speed" signs.

  Another dumb question is since both types of rim are 6J and the tyres have 
different tread widths, when the time comes to change all the tyres I could go 
for 185s? 

  Rob, I was looking at 14" rims with 185/55 R14 tyres, the thinking being that 
the diameter should be correct and not a drastic effect on the ride.  I hear 
that going for a lower profile tyre can make the ride harsher.  Just thinking 
of my back!

  Thanks all.

  Martin
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

2018-07-12 Thread chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
MK2 XR2 original wheels have 185/60/13 tyres.

185 is the tyre width in mm
60   is the side wall height in mm
13   is the wheel size in inches

I changed to

165/60/14MK3 Fiesta steel wheels

This means the speedo will over-read by 1 mph.
Its the closest I could get at the time.

I currently have a MK4 Fiesta (parts bin) which is 185/55/14

When these go onto the Q it should under-read by 1 mph, therefore taking me 
back to MK2 XR2 again. 

Chris G


From: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 5:28 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

Oh to have a tyre with knobbles on and not a nail!  A good suggestion Steve, 
will investigate.  Was considering using it as a planter for my petunias. 

I noted that the pepperpot is a 6J rim and it has a 185/60 R13 tyre on, the 
current fitted road wheels are 6J's with 165/70 R13 tyres. I am assuming that 
there is an extra 2cm on the diameter of the wheels from what the xr2 had, so 
does that mean my speedo is under-reading? Must check it next time I go through 
one of those "check your speed" signs.

Another dumb question is since both types of rim are 6J and the tyres have 
different tread widths, when the time comes to change all the tyres I could go 
for 185s? 

Rob, I was looking at 14" rims with 185/55 R14 tyres, the thinking being that 
the diameter should be correct and not a drastic effect on the ride.  I hear 
that going for a lower profile tyre can make the ride harsher.  Just thinking 
of my back!

Thanks all.

Martin
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

2018-07-12 Thread Jim Hearne 
I’ve got one of those as well, a seemingly unused XR2 pepperpot spare with the 
knobbles still on the tyre.
Keep meaning to put it on Ebay.

Jim


From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2018 11:50 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

Martin,

Before giving away the XR2 Pepperpot you might want to check if it is worth 
anything to someone with an XR2.  These cars are getting rare, so a good 
condition original alloy wheel might be worth something to the right person.

Regards,
Steve




On 11/07/18 23:41, 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group wrote:

  Thank you everyone for your input, very helpful indeed. I like these wheels, 
I can't imagine the car wearing anything else!  I measured the width of the rim 
as 6" when I balanced them so most likely they are a 6J.  I am changing the 
front brake calipers, when they arrive that is, and will check the inside of 
the rims for any other markings and numbers.  That will be a major cleaning job!

  Regarding new wheels, I had specified the make, model and year of the car and 
been told that the correct offset would be applied at the time of ordering. I 
wasn't sure then about the J part of it but with your help, that is much 
clearer.  Whatever I do, I must make sure they have four holes and not five to 
mount the wheels on the hubs. This is a whole world I never knew existed!

  Regarding plastic rings to centre the wheels Hans, mine do not have them at 
all.  The wheels are a nice snug fit when pressed to the hub and hold well as 
the bolts are put in place.  After I balanced the wheels, the wobble at around 
60mph had gone.  A very useful tip nonetheless and one I will bear in mind if I 
do change the wheels completely, the companies I looked at all mentioned rings 
and I wondered what they were for.

  I would be interested to find out more Robmirach.  Apart from the 
non-matching and missing centre covers, I do not have a good spare either!  The 
boot contains an original XR2 pepperpot wheel with a tyre size that does not 
match the rest.  There is also a honking great nail through the tread that I 
hadn't notice in the last 15 years.  If anyone wants the wheel, you are welcome 
- nail included!

  Thanks again.

  Martin
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

2018-07-12 Thread 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 

Martin,

Before giving away the XR2 Pepperpot you might want to check if it is 
worth anything to someone with an XR2.  These cars are getting rare, so 
a good condition original alloy wheel might be worth something to the 
right person.


Regards,
Steve


On 11/07/18 23:41, 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group wrote:
Thank you everyone for your input, very helpful indeed. I like these 
wheels, I can't imagine the car wearing anything else!  I measured the 
width of the rim as 6" when I balanced them so most likely they are a 
6J.  I am changing the front brake calipers, when they arrive that is, 
and will check the inside of the rims for any other markings and 
numbers.  That will be a major cleaning job!


Regarding new wheels, I had specified the make, model and year of the 
car and been told that the correct offset would be applied at the time 
of ordering. I wasn't sure then about the J part of it but with your 
help, that is much clearer. Whatever I do, I must make sure they have 
four holes and not five to mount the wheels on the hubs. This is a 
whole world I never knew existed!


Regarding plastic rings to centre the wheels Hans, mine do not have 
them at all.  The wheels are a nice snug fit when pressed to the hub 
and hold well as the bolts are put in place.  After I balanced the 
wheels, the wobble at around 60mph had gone.  A very useful tip 
nonetheless and one I will bear in mind if I do change the wheels 
completely, the companies I looked at all mentioned rings and I 
wondered what they were for.


I would be interested to find out more Robmirach.  Apart from the 
non-matching and missing centre covers, I do not have a good spare 
either!  The boot contains an original XR2 pepperpot wheel with a tyre 
size that does not match the rest.  There is also a honking great nail 
through the tread that I hadn't notice in the last 15 years.  If 
anyone wants the wheel, you are welcome - nail included!


Thanks again.
Martin
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

2018-07-12 Thread rob hancock 
hi
i will post some pictures as soon as we get the car back, i think we may
have a set of 14" as well will have to check and again let you know
regards rob

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 11:41 PM, 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group
 wrote:

> Thank you everyone for your input, very helpful indeed. I like these
> wheels, I can't imagine the car wearing anything else!  I measured the
> width of the rim as 6" when I balanced them so most likely they are a 6J.
> I am changing the front brake calipers, when they arrive that is, and will
> check the inside of the rims for any other markings and numbers.  That will
> be a major cleaning job!
>
> Regarding new wheels, I had specified the make, model and year of the car
> and been told that the correct offset would be applied at the time of
> ordering. I wasn't sure then about the J part of it but with your help,
> that is much clearer.  Whatever I do, I must make sure they have four holes
> and not five to mount the wheels on the hubs. This is a whole world I never
> knew existed!
>
> Regarding plastic rings to centre the wheels Hans, mine do not have them
> at all.  The wheels are a nice snug fit when pressed to the hub and hold
> well as the bolts are put in place.  After I balanced the wheels, the
> wobble at around 60mph had gone.  A very useful tip nonetheless and one I
> will bear in mind if I do change the wheels completely, the companies I
> looked at all mentioned rings and I wondered what they were for.
>
> I would be interested to find out more Robmirach.  Apart from the
> non-matching and missing centre covers, I do not have a good spare either!
> The boot contains an original XR2 pepperpot wheel with a tyre size that
> does not match the rest.  There is also a honking great nail through the
> tread that I hadn't notice in the last 15 years.  If anyone wants the
> wheel, you are welcome - nail included!
>
> Thanks again.
> Martin
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

2018-07-11 Thread Jim Hearne 
I’ve done that as well on my 2+2 and saloon.

Jim


From: Susan and Martin Scott 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:48 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

As Jim says re wheel bolts. An alternative (which I used) is to get the hubs 
machined to remove the threads/make the holes slightly larger and fit wheel 
studs (ISTR they were Focus ones) of the correct length, and then use the 
correct nuts for the new alloy wheels. I think mine wheels (1999 Fiesta) were 
ET 39, and the 'danger' zone is the clearance at the trailing arms on the rear 
suspension (and sideways movement cause by the panhard rod)
Martin Scott
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  From: Jim Hearne 
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

  The 5.5J and 6J are the width of the wheel rim in inches.
  You also need to look at the ET, the offset.   
  Ford standard for the Mk2 Fiesta is ET35, you can vary it a bit though.
  But the wider you go on the rims the more important the actual offset becomes.

  Make sure the new rims are specifically for the Mk1/Mk2 Fiesta, after that 
Ford switched from wheel bolts to wheel nuts.
  The bolts had a smaller seat size so if you use the later wheels with the 
earlier bolts there is hardly anything holding the wheels on and the bolts can 
pull through the wheels.
  You can get round this by using special larger bolts or adaptor washers that 
fit under the existing bolts.



  From: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:03 PM
  To: Quantum Owners Group 
  Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

Grateful for the comments left, I forgot to say that the rims are 13" 
diameter currently fitted with 165x70x13 tyres (not one of which is the same as 
the others).

  I've been looking at WheelBase for alternatives.  Not sure what 5.5J and 6J 
means but if I do replace the wheels I think it will be with 14" rims and 
185x55x14 tyres, they should fit within the wheel arches and not foul 
suspension struts or body.

Thanks for your help!
Martin
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

2018-07-11 Thread Susan and Martin Scott 
As Jim says re wheel bolts. An alternative (which I used) is to get the hubs 
machined to remove the threads/make the holes slightly larger and fit wheel 
studs (ISTR they were Focus ones) of the correct length, and then use the 
correct nuts for the new alloy wheels. I think mine wheels (1999 Fiesta) were 
ET 39, and the 'danger' zone is the clearance at the trailing arms on the rear 
suspension (and sideways movement cause by the panhard rod)
Martin Scott
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  From: Jim Hearne 
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels


  The 5.5J and 6J are the width of the wheel rim in inches.
  You also need to look at the ET, the offset.   
  Ford standard for the Mk2 Fiesta is ET35, you can vary it a bit though.
  But the wider you go on the rims the more important the actual offset becomes.

  Make sure the new rims are specifically for the Mk1/Mk2 Fiesta, after that 
Ford switched from wheel bolts to wheel nuts.
  The bolts had a smaller seat size so if you use the later wheels with the 
earlier bolts there is hardly anything holding the wheels on and the bolts can 
pull through the wheels.
  You can get round this by using special larger bolts or adaptor washers that 
fit under the existing bolts.



  From: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:03 PM
  To: Quantum Owners Group 
  Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

Grateful for the comments left, I forgot to say that the rims are 13" 
diameter currently fitted with 165x70x13 tyres (not one of which is the same as 
the others).

  I've been looking at WheelBase for alternatives.  Not sure what 5.5J and 6J 
means but if I do replace the wheels I think it will be with 14" rims and 
185x55x14 tyres, they should fit within the wheel arches and not foul 
suspension struts or body.

Thanks for your help!
Martin
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

2018-07-11 Thread Jim Hearne 
The 5.5J and 6J are the width of the wheel rim in inches.
You also need to look at the ET, the offset.   
Ford standard for the Mk2 Fiesta is ET35, you can vary it a bit though.
But the wider you go on the rims the more important the actual offset becomes.

Make sure the new rims are specifically for the Mk1/Mk2 Fiesta, after that Ford 
switched from wheel bolts to wheel nuts.
The bolts had a smaller seat size so if you use the later wheels with the 
earlier bolts there is hardly anything holding the wheels on and the bolts can 
pull through the wheels.
You can get round this by using special larger bolts or adaptor washers that 
fit under the existing bolts.



From: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:03 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

  Grateful for the comments left, I forgot to say that the rims are 13" 
diameter currently fitted with 165x70x13 tyres (not one of which is the same as 
the others).

I've been looking at WheelBase for alternatives.  Not sure what 5.5J and 6J 
means but if I do replace the wheels I think it will be with 14" rims and 
185x55x14 tyres, they should fit within the wheel arches and not foul 
suspension struts or body.

  Thanks for your help!
  Martin
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

2018-07-11 Thread kynastonp . 
5.5 and 6 are the width of the wheel  J is the code for the shape of the cross 
section of the wheel rim , when you take the tyre off there is a wide channel 
round the wheel to make fitting the tire easier j tells you the shape .

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From: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:03:41 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

Grateful for the comments left, I forgot to say that the rims are 13" diameter 
currently fitted with 165x70x13 tyres (not one of which is the same as the 
others).

I've been looking at WheelBase for alternatives.  Not sure what 5.5J and 6J 
means but if I do replace the wheels I think it will be with 14" rims and 
185x55x14 tyres, they should fit within the wheel arches and not foul 
suspension struts or body.

Thanks for your help!
Martin

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