Re: [qubes-users] Remove original Template-VM, keeping the package for reinstallation

2018-03-29 Thread sevas
Hi. I think that was only half of the answer. I have had this problem too: of 
removing original templates; ie- debian-9, fedora-26.

The documentation; 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/remove-vm-manually/
is only viable via templates that are not "installed by (system/dom0)".

The GUI gives the error "You cannot remove templates that were installed by 
(system/dom0)". The TTY gives that error plus many more, even when following 
the 
documentation above. 

I had to reinstall my entire system because I interrupted a backup restore and 
the restore gave me too many templates that were "installed by system": 
debian-9; debian-9-1; fedora-26; fedora-26-1

A small bug that should be noted: sometimes when deleting qubes, they still 
have 
a target.wants at boot. 

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Re: [qubes-users] Remove original Template-VM, keeping the package for reinstallation

2018-03-29 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:39:59PM +, 799 wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am cloning the default templates before applying any changes in order to
> start from scratch in case of problems
> 
> Thereof I have now several templates and it feels crowded.
> 
> Question:
> How can I remove the default template VMs from Qubes but keeping the
> installation package, so that I can reinstall if I would like to start with
> a fresh template VM?

Try `qubes-dom0-update --action=download qubes-template-...`

If that doesn't work, then use --action=reinstall but answer 'n' to the
final question. You'll find the package in /var/lib/qubes/updates/rpm.

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Re: [qubes-users] installation failure hen trying to instal from usb to samsung sad on lenovo 220

2018-03-29 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:56:12AM -0700, kai.fr...@gmail.com wrote:
> greetings,
> 
> i copied the current iso (tried it.both with rc5 and with today final 
> official iso) to a 32gb usb stick
> and made my lenovo x220 boot from it. all went well until i choosed to habe 
> the newly installed
> samsung 512gb ssd as target (it was listed in the graphic menu of the 
> available targets).
> the system kind of halted for a second or two and then throwed an 
> anaconda 25.20.9-12 exception report
> Trace back (most recent file first):
> 
> File  "/usr/python3.5/site-packages/blivet/devicetree.py", line 184, in 
> _remove_device raise ValeError("Device %s not in tree" % dev.name)e
> ...
> 
> The exact same line raised alreeady an error when trying to install rc5 on 
> two other lenovo laptops (t430 and
> l560) with several different usb drives as targets.
> 
> So at this point, i am a bit without clue what else to try to get qubes 
> installed and am wondering
> a bit what causes all the pther installations to work for all other users?

What partitioning layout have you chosen? All defaults?

Can you extract logs from that system? The error message should have a
button to switch you to text console, then you'll find full error
message in /tmp/anaconda-tb-(something) file. You might want to
review/edit this file before posting it - it contains a lot of details
about your hardware. If you want, you may send it just to my address
instead of mailing list.

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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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[qubes-users] Remove original Template-VM, keeping the package for reinstallation

2018-03-29 Thread 799
Hello,

I am cloning the default templates before applying any changes in order to
start from scratch in case of problems

Thereof I have now several templates and it feels crowded.

Question:
How can I remove the default template VMs from Qubes but keeping the
installation package, so that I can reinstall if I would like to start with
a fresh template VM?


[799]

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Re: [qubes-users] Onionizing

2018-03-29 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Thu, March 29, 2018 6:57 pm, coinshark...@gmail.com wrote:
> whonix 14 templates have the tor v3 addresses preconfigured
>
> i mirrored the debian-9 template to them and its the qubes tor v3 onion
> that is not working. the other addresses are the debian v2 onion and
> whonix v3.
>
> they work.
>
> qubes v3 says 404 notfound or :there is no release file.
>
> it must not have a release file..
>
> qubes v2 took over an hour to download the headers/release file. not
> worth it.

Have you seen
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3737#issuecomment-376348366
?

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4 does not see my RAID 5 disk but 3.2 does

2018-03-29 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Thu, March 29, 2018 6:32 pm, Paf LeGeek wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> I installed Qubes OS 4 (final release) today, but it does not see my 3
> disks array RAID 5 (encrypted with luks) even with the command "sudo
> pvs". It's an hardware RAID on a Asus Sabertooth 990FX V2 motherboard.
>
>
> So I got back to the Qubes OS 3.2 version which see the RAID 5 disk
> without any problem.
>
> Any idea ?

Random ideas (from inside 4.0):
- check sudo lspci -v and see if it loaded the driver for your controller
- unless you added it to crypttab after installing 4.0, you might have to
run cryptsetup to decrypt it before LVM can detect it


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[qubes-users] Re: installation failure when trying rc5 or final iso on lenovo x220 with samsung ssd as target

2018-03-29 Thread sevas
Look at the custom install Qubes page. 

Go in the tty3 and format your drive from there according to instructions. Then 
go back to GUI and try to install.

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[qubes-users] Re: Cannot load R4.0 installer: "Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network"; " X startup failed[Xorg:12xx]."

2018-03-29 Thread kimboamstaff
Remembered another thing about DVD

Burned in ubuntu. Tried to burn in windows but didn't worked out -_-(problems 
in the dvd, was recorded but in a wrong way, don't ask me how because I don't 
know =/ srry about that)

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Cannot load R4.0 installer: "Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network"; " X startup failed[Xorg:12xx]."

2018-03-29 Thread taii...@gmx.com
kexec in to the qubes/xen kernel from something that works with the
nvidia card commented out via vfio-pci as if you were going to assign it
to a vm.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Cannot load R4.0 installer: "Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network"; " X startup failed[Xorg:12xx]."

2018-03-29 Thread kimboamstaff
Sorry about that.

Sometimes the grub didn't come in my computer also.
I will try to put everything that I made here.

Installation was made over legacy mode, secure boot disabled, vt-d enabled, 
hyper-threat stuff enabled, Intel virtualization technology on, sata mode AHCI. 
used a dvd to install.

Also had problems with trying to install with usb, tried with dd method in 
ubuntu and didn't worked, also tried in windows with rufus method and didn't 
worked, so changed to DVD as stated before.



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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Cannot load R4.0 installer: "Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network"; " X startup failed[Xorg:12xx]."

2018-03-29 Thread 'Tuq Sagago' via qubes-users
I know about the nomodeset solution, but I cant even bring up the grub menu at 
the moment because it just freezes.
When exactly did you press tab?

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 Original Message 
On 29 Mar 2018, 23:45, wrote:

> Em quinta-feira, 29 de março de 2018 15:07:22 UTC-4, Tuq Sagago escreveu:
>> Once it arrives to "Starting installer.", the system freezes, saying:
>>
>>
>>
>> ```
>>
>> Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network
>>
>> X startup failed, aborting installation1 stuck for 23s! [Xorg: 1278]
>>
>> The installation cannot contnue and the system will be rebooted
>>
>> '''
>>
>> I've tried both legacy on/off, booting on/off partition 1 of the USB disk. 
>> Tried creating USB installers with both dd and Etcher.
>>
>>
>> The device is an Asus GL553VD, which has a GTX1050, i.e.  one of those 
>> Nvidia Optimus cards that don't get along with Linux.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know how to bring up a command line to try some of the solutions 
>> that may be relevant. The system just freezes
>>
>>
>>
>> What else can I try?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> What else can I try?
>
> Try this(that solved my issue):
>
> Press tab and add before "---" this(without quotes):"nouveau.modeset=0"
>
> This way I was able to install and use qubes(that I'm using now to post this)
>
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[qubes-users] Re: Cannot load R4.0 installer: "Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network"; " X startup failed[Xorg:12xx]."

2018-03-29 Thread kimboamstaff
Em quinta-feira, 29 de março de 2018 15:07:22 UTC-4, Tuq Sagago  escreveu:
> Once it arrives to "Starting installer.", the system freezes, saying:
> 
> 
> 
> ```
> 
> Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network
> 
> X startup failed, aborting installation1 stuck for 23s! [Xorg: 1278]
> 
> The installation cannot contnue and the system will be rebooted
> 
> '''
> 
> I've tried both legacy on/off, booting on/off partition 1 of the USB disk. 
> Tried creating USB installers with both dd and Etcher.
> 
> 
> The device is an Asus GL553VD, which has  a GTX1050, i.e.   one of those 
> Nvidia Optimus cards that don't get along with Linux.
> 
> 
> 
> I don't know how to bring up a command line to try some of the solutions that 
> may be relevant. The system just freezes
> 
> 
> 
> What else can I try?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> What else can I try?

Try this(that solved my issue): 

Press tab and add before "---" this(without quotes):"nouveau.modeset=0"

This way I was able to install and use qubes(that I'm using now to post this)

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Re: [qubes-users] Cannot load R4.0 installer: "Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network"; " X startup failed[Xorg:12xx]."

2018-03-29 Thread 'Tuq Sagago' via qubes-users
I managed to get into the installer by holding tab just as it started to boot. 

Unfortunately, the installation froze in the middle...


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On March 29, 2018 7:48 PM, Tuq Sagago  wrote:

> ​​
> 
> "Means it's works with windows only - at the moment."
> 
> I've been using Debian on this device until now, albeit with the extra 
> graphics card disabled. I've been using R3.2 on a "gaming" desktop with a GTX 
> 10XX card and that's been working fine without any issues.
> 
> "Your only hope if you can disable that nVidia thing in your BIOS"
> 
> There's no option for that unfortunately.
> 
> I don't need the gaming hardware drivers or the Optimus features, but I would 
> like to be able to boot into the Qubes installer and use the OS.
> 
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> On March 29, 2018 7:22 PM, Zrubi m...@zrubi.hu wrote:
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> > On 03/29/2018 09:07 PM, 'Tuq Sagago' via qubes-users wrote:
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> > > Asus GL553VD
> > 
> > That thing is designed for games.
> > 
> > Means it's works with windows only - at the moment.
> > 
> > Your only hope if you can disable that nVidia thing in your BIOS, and
> > 
> > boot up using the integrated VGA.
> > 
> > in general:
> > 
> > Optimus was never* working under Linux.
> > 
> > nVidia 10xx cards are working only with the binary drivers.
> > 
> > -   Back in time, there was a project called: Bumblebee.
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Re: [qubes-users] Cannot load R4.0 installer: "Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network"; " X startup failed[Xorg:12xx]."

2018-03-29 Thread 'Tuq Sagago' via qubes-users
"Means it's works with windows only - at the moment."

I've been using Debian on this device until now, albeit with the extra graphics 
card disabled. I've been using R3.2 on a "gaming" desktop with a GTX 10XX card 
and that's been working fine without any issues.

"Your only hope if you can disable that nVidia thing in your BIOS"

There's no option for that unfortunately.

I don't need the gaming hardware drivers or the Optimus features, but I would 
like to be able to boot into the Qubes installer and use the OS. 


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> > Asus GL553VD
> 
> That thing is designed for games.
> 
> Means it's works with windows only - at the moment.
> 
> Your only hope if you can disable that nVidia thing in your BIOS, and
> 
> boot up using the integrated VGA.
> 
> in general:
> 
> Optimus was never* working under Linux.
> 
> nVidia 10xx cards are working only with the binary drivers.
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> -   Back in time, there was a project called: Bumblebee.
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Re: [qubes-users] How do I load firmware-atheros into Qubes 4.0 R5?

2018-03-29 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 03/29/2018 02:52 PM, 799 wrote:

> Maybe users buy a Purism laptop and next time they buy something even more
> free ... That's still great.
My issue is with purisms incredibly dishonest marketing, their pressure
campaigns on the FSF, their insulting of their competitors - not their
existence in general or the practice of selling of laptops that are only
slightly more free than a dell.

You say "why do so many people bash purism" well they have done more
than enough to deserve it - and last I checked I am the only one doing
so whereas they employ plenty of shills and even probably pay
journalists to issue glorified press releasesthe tech media adores
purism and refuses to publish the real facts or even just some articles
on their honest competitors and I wonder why that is.

Because of their dishonest marketing they've ruined the idea of what a
free laptop should look like in the head of the average person, sucked
away money from honest companies and prevented the existence of
crowdfunding campaigns or start-ups selling actually libre laptops - all
of these are bad.

They have set the freedom hardware movement back by a decade, even more
now that they've convinced people that they have "disabled" ME and that
intel hardware is fine to buy again (it isn't)

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Re: [qubes-users] Cannot load R4.0 installer: "Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network"; " X startup failed[Xorg:12xx]."

2018-03-29 Thread Zrubi
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On 03/29/2018 09:07 PM, 'Tuq Sagago' via qubes-users wrote:
> Asus GL553VD

That thing is designed for games.
Means it's works with windows only - at the moment.

Your only hope if you can disable that nVidia thing in your BIOS, and
boot up using the integrated VGA.

in general:
Optimus was never* working under Linux.
nVidia 10xx cards are working only with the binary drivers.


* Back in time, there was a project called: Bumblebee.
But that is dead for ages.

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[qubes-users] Cannot load R4.0 installer: "Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network"; " X startup failed[Xorg:12xx]."

2018-03-29 Thread 'Tuq Sagago' via qubes-users
Once it arrives to "Starting installer.", the system freezes, saying:

```
Not asking for VNC because we don't have a network
X startup failed, aborting installation1 stuck for 23s! [Xorg: 1278]
The installation cannot contnue and the system will be rebooted
'''
I've tried both legacy on/off, booting on/off partition 1 of the USB disk. 
Tried creating USB installers with both dd and Etcher.

The device is an Asus GL553VD, which has a GTX1050, i.e.  one of those Nvidia 
Optimus cards that don't get along with Linux.

I don't know how to bring up a command line to try some of the solutions that 
may be relevant. The system just freezes

What else can I try?

What else can I try?

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[qubes-users] installation failure when trying rc5 or final iso on lenovo x220 with samsung ssd as target

2018-03-29 Thread kai . froeb
may be it is worth to add that the very same hardware combination worked 
flawlessly when trying to install qubes 3.2 instead (just tried again to make 
sure)

btw, i also apreciated that version 3.2 installer supports so many different 
langauges apart from english.

hope that helps
kai

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[qubes-users] installation failure when trying rc5 or final iso on lenovo x220 with samsung ssd as target

2018-03-29 Thread kai . froeb
may be it is worth to add that the very same hardware combination worked 
flwlessly when trying to install qubes 3.2 instead (just tried again to make 
sure)

hope that helps
kai

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[qubes-users] installation failure when trying rc5 or final iso on lenovo x220 with samsung ssd as target

2018-03-29 Thread kai . froeb
greetings,

i copied the current iso (tried it.both with rc5 and with today final official 
iso) to a 32gb usb stick
and made my lenovo x220 boot from it. all went well until i choosed to habe the 
newly installed
samsung 512gb ssd as target (it was listed in the graphic menu of the available 
targets).

the system kind of halted for a second or two and then throwed an 
anaconda 25.20.9-12 exception report
Trace back (most recent file first):

File  "/usr/python3.5/site-packages/blivet/devicetree.py", line 184, in 
_remove_device raise ValeError("Device %s not in tree" % dev.name)e
...

The exact same line raised already an error when trying to install rc5 on two 
other lenovo laptops (t430 and
l560) with several different usb drives as targets some days ago.

So at this point, i am a bit without clue what else to try, to get qubes 
installed and i am wondering
a bit what causes all the other installations to work for all other users?

all the best
Kai

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Re: [qubes-users] Onionizing

2018-03-29 Thread coinshark340
whonix 14 templates have the tor v3 addresses preconfigured

i mirrored the debian-9 template to them and its the qubes tor v3 onion that is 
not working. the other addresses are the debian v2 onion and whonix v3. 

they work. 

qubes v3 says 404 notfound or :there is no release file. 

it must not have a release file..

qubes v2 took over an hour to download the headers/release file. not worth it. 

thx jackie

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[qubes-users] installation failure hen trying to instal from usb to samsung sad on lenovo 220

2018-03-29 Thread kai . froeb
greetings,

i copied the current iso (tried it.both with rc5 and with today final official 
iso) to a 32gb usb stick
and made my lenovo x220 boot from it. all went well until i choosed to habe the 
newly installed
samsung 512gb ssd as target (it was listed in the graphic menu of the available 
targets).
the system kind of halted for a second or two and then throwed an 
anaconda 25.20.9-12 exception report
Trace back (most recent file first):

File  "/usr/python3.5/site-packages/blivet/devicetree.py", line 184, in 
_remove_device raise ValeError("Device %s not in tree" % dev.name)e
...

The exact same line raised alreeady an error when trying to install rc5 on two 
other lenovo laptops (t430 and
l560) with several different usb drives as targets.

So at this point, i am a bit without clue what else to try to get qubes 
installed and am wondering
a bit what causes all the pther installations to work for all other users?

all the best
Kai

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Re: [qubes-users] installation failure when trying to install q4 rc5 from usb to usb

2018-03-29 Thread kai . froeb
noone interested in this bug? 

same bug also happend with today final odficial version 4 final when trying to 
install kt on a ssd.
so it seems more generic and important than i fist thought.

so i will issue a new bug report on that one, because it is now no more limite 
to 
usb stick as target for instaling.

all the best
kai

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Re: [qubes-users] How do I load firmware-atheros into Qubes 4.0 R5?

2018-03-29 Thread 799
Hello,

taii...@gmx.com  schrieb am Do., 29. März 2018, 20:36:

> I believe in this case you should be contacting your vendor for
> technical support - you certainly paid more than enough to deserve some.

[...]
> "We are doing the best we can"
> Wrong.
> There are companies that are releasing real libre firmware computers,
> brand new and fast, fully open source and owner controlled (but purism
> doesn't want you to know that)

[...]
>

While some of your point might be true, I don't understand why Purism gets
so much bashing.
Every User who buys a Purism laptop has still a better device and at least
paid attention to the topic privacy than others who buy regular
cheap/standard laptops.
And every user who got a Purism device and joins this community is a good
thing of others are so much better, they should just improve their
marketing ;-)
... and yes buying a cheaper refurbished device and installing Coreboot or
libreboot might be possible, this is nothing every user can do, maybe they
just want a slightly more secure device than a default windows laptop and
if Purism is the reason why a user is running Linux instead of Windows/Mac
this is a good thing.

If you blame Purism, than you should also be fair and request that a user
inspects the Mainboard of a refurbished laptop to make sure that the device
is not tampered with.

Also consider that some users just want a modell that looks sexier than the
Lenovo G505.

Maybe users buy a Purism laptop and next time they buy something even more
free ... That's still great.

[799]

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Re: [qubes-users] Guide on installing Qubes and Coreboot with encrypted boot on thinkpads

2018-03-29 Thread taii...@gmx.com
G as in g-money? hehe just had to say that.

The ME is capable of presenting a fake "softTPM" software based TPM but
in this case I doubt that is what the X220 has - and there is no reason
as to why a TPM shouldn't work with a cleaned ME as it doesn't involve
the ME it communicates directly on the LPC bus.
I also must note for everyone that it is impossible to disable ME - the
ME_Cleaner software and the HAP bit do not disable ME the kernel does in
fact run before it shuts off via HAP which is plenty of time to perform
a litany of dirty tricksthat is if you trust ME saying that it is
shutting down (there is no way to verify this without million dollar
equipment) a truly disabled ME could have its CPU physically
disconnected and the platform not work or at the least be able to
function without the ME blob without shutting off after 30 minutes which
will happen even with the HAP bit.

Of course I must mention that TXT is an intel gimmick that isn't
actually required to have an effective AEM setup, it just means that
with it you can slightly change kernel bios etc and not have to re-seal
which isn't at all necessary.

I suggest posting on the coreboot ML to inqure as to why it isn't
working - the aptitude level there is higher and someone will probably
be able to assist.

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Re: [qubes-users] Guide on installing Qubes and Coreboot with encrypted boot on thinkpads

2018-03-29 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 03/27/2018 02:10 PM, G wrote:

> Hello,
> since it took a while for me to sum up all piece and a lot of trial
> and error to get the whole setup working i took some notes to help
> other who want to try something similar.
> Please note that everything written there is public domain (so
> copy-edit-whatever).
>
> https://git.lsd.cat/g/thinkad-coreboot-qubes
>
> I did it today in a hurry so any feedback, modification or
> contribution is welcome.
- Forgot microcode updates very important in general especially with the
latest spectre stuff.
- My fan control works fine
- Don't recommend the use of a comparatively expensive non-free RPI from
the evil RPI foundation use a USB CH341A instead for $5

If you want to shut off expresscard you can use "off" in the
devicetree.cb but I see no reason to - IOMMU would prevent any issues.

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Re: [qubes-users] How do I load firmware-atheros into Qubes 4.0 R5?

2018-03-29 Thread taii...@gmx.com
I believe in this case you should be contacting your vendor for
technical support - you certainly paid more than enough to deserve some.

I have several questions for you:
I am curious did you know pre-purchase that purisms laptops are not
actually libre, that their ME isn't disabled and that the firmware is
not "open source firmware"?
(The hardware initiation process is entirely closed source performed via
Intel's FSP binary blobs - these days unfortunately "coreboot" doesn't
really mean open source firmware)
I am also curious as to what lead to them instead of for instance the
actually owner controlled lenovo G505S for only $300 - it is a little
bit slower but the recc'ed A10 CPU is quad core (better for qubes), the
CPU/RAM init is open source, there is no ME/PSP and
Thank you for answering them

Purism fact sheet:
"Disabled ME":
It is impossible to disable ME, the HAP bit and ME_Cleaner simply nerf
it - however the kernel and any mask roms still run and have more than
enough time and code size to perform a litany of dirty tricks.

"we hand select every chip to respect your privacy and freedom"
*in reality the laptop is probably just a re-badged whitebox model (you
can't have a custom motherboard run for the volumes they are dealing
with and even an FSP coreboot port takes $100K+ sucking up a lot of
their resources)

"We will convince intel to open source XYZ":
Google attempted to get intel to open up ME and FSP for their coreboot
chromebook project but even they were re-buffed - if they can't do it
then a small company certainly can't nor would they have the resources
to backport it to the many laptops they already have released.

"We are doing the best we can"
Wrong.
There are companies that are releasing real libre firmware computers,
brand new and fast, fully open source and owner controlled (but purism
doesn't want you to know that)

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Re: [qubes-users] Best works-out-of-the-box dual-head gfx card?

2018-03-29 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 03/28/2018 09:01 PM, Stumpy wrote:

> On 09.03.2018 00:57, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
>> AMD stuff is the best choice, they don't artificially hobble
>> virtualization on their regular cards and they work out of the box.
>>
>> The reason things break and you need to re-compile every time you
>> update your kernel with a new nvidia card in your system is because
>> they make an effort to slow down the nouveau project and in the case
>> of their brand new cards entirely block it via hardware code signing
>> enforcement and not even providing any firmware blobs.
>>
>> There are a variety of single slot half height low power AMD cards but
>> if you want something newer the only choice is the more expensive
>> professional series with a fan - the WX4100 for instance is half
>> height but not passively cooled.
>>
>> You can obtain a 54xx passively cooled card for around $30-50 but that
>> is a quite old chipset (although you can install openradeonbios on it)
>
> Ok, 4.0 Qubes is out so I am more motivated than ever before. I took a
> look at the WX4100 which looks fantastic, but perhaps is more than I
> need (and more than I can afford).
It is a sexy card right? I too saw the pretty blue color and it was love
at first sight xD even though I know that is an overpriced card.
I don't suggest buying an overpriced card like the 4100 just because it
is single slot/half height or w/e I would instead get a 5450 unless you
absolutely need something better.
> I can do without the passively cooled part, esp if it will bring the
> price down a bit (I am hoping for something in the low 100s USD).
Yeah it willyou aren't intending for gaming right? I would get a
5450 or 5470 they come in passively cooled and half height.
> In terms of requirements, I suppose (to simplify things) the main
> criteria I have are low 100s USD, low profile, and at least two ports,
> though 4 would like the WX4100 would of course be awesome. I am
> totally open to used, and am not looking for bleeding edge.
Get a 5450 for $30 bucks I sugg

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[qubes-users] Qubes 4 does not see my RAID 5 disk but 3.2 does

2018-03-29 Thread Paf LeGeek
Hello,

I installed Qubes OS 4 (final release) today, but it does not see my 3 disks 
array RAID 5 (encrypted with luks) even with the command "sudo pvs". 
It's an hardware RAID on a Asus Sabertooth 990FX V2 motherboard.

So I got back to the Qubes OS 3.2 version which see the RAID 5 disk without any 
problem.

Any idea ?

Thanks

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Re: [qubes-users] Best works-out-of-the-box dual-head gfx card?

2018-03-29 Thread Stumpy



On 08.03.2018 23:30, Stumpy wrote:

Hi,

I have seen a few gfx card requests for "qubes compatible" and lots of
posts about gfx card issues so I wanted to be sure about my purcahse
so I will ask a similar question. I am in the market for a graphics
card, or more specifically increasing the number of ports as I am
going from 2 -> 4 monitors. I figure I am going to need to get a
graphics card for this that has a minimum of 2 ports.

I have read quite a few posts regarding problems with NVIDA and
AMD/ATI cards/chipsets, but they seem to be my only option. From the
posts I saw it kinda seems that the AMD/ATI works a bit better,
thoughts?

I am hoping those out there who have had "plug in and it just works"
experiences with graphics cards can chime in with their
recommendations.

I am also hoping to get something as "future proof" as possible, so it
will admittedly be a balance, that said I don't need bleeding edge
either as I am not a gamer and don't do too much with video (does
video encoding count?).

I must have a minimum of two ports Other preferences are:

* I really really really want something that will work outa the box,
not really interested in recompiling the kernel as I have some
seriously defunt kernel karma
* DisplayPort would be nice but DVI will be fine
* low profile (hopefully not too wishful of thinking for a 2+ port
card), my box is actually pretty small.
* Lots memory I guess?
* Passively cooled would be nice.

In terms of expansion slots my box has 1 PCI-E X16 Gen2.0 (supports
3.0? not wholly sure about this) and 1PCI-E X4
Oh, and on this machine I am using 3.2 but will of course upgrade to
4.0 once its final.

Thanks so much in advance!

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Ok, how about this. Taiidan suggested the WX4100 (thx!) which looks 
awesome but it a bit outside my price range. I found the AMD Radeon Pro 
WX 2100 
(https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6ZP5X42735). That 
seems to be pretty much the same, or more like a step down but similar 
otherwise. Should that work ok with Qubes 4.0? It has 3 ports, is low 
profile, supports 4k, etc which I think will suffice for me.
Any confirmation that this should work with Qubes 4.x w/o modifications 
would really be appreciated!


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Re: [qubes-users] Onionizing

2018-03-29 Thread js...@riseup.net
coinshark...@gmail.com:
> Hi. Im want to onionize qubes
> 
> I installed whonix 14 and I have edited my sources like this.
> 
> 
> qubes.r4.list
> # Main qubes updates repository
> #deb [arch=amd64] http://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch main
> #deb-src http://deb.qubes-os.org/r4.0/vm stretch main
> #deb [arch=amd64] http://deb.qubesos4z6n4.onion/r4.0/vm stretch main
> deb [arch=amd64] 
> http://deb.sik5nlgfc5qylnnsr57qrbm64zbdx6t4lreyhpon3ychmxmiem7tioad.onion 
> stretch main
> 
> have also tried removing [arch=amd64] and changing source to 
> http://sik5nlgfc5qylnnsr57qrbm64zbdx6t4lreyhpon3ychmxmiem7tioad.onion
> 
> 
> 
> I get error
> 
> Err:4 
> http://deb.sik5nlgfc5qylnnsr57qrbm64zbdx6t4lreyhpon3ychmxmiem7tioad.onion 
> stretch/main amd64 Packages
>   404  Not Found
> W: The repository 
> 'http://deb.sik5nlgfc5qylnnsr57qrbm64zbdx6t4lreyhpon3ychmxmiem7tioad.onion 
> stretch Release' does not have a Release file.
> N: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore 
> potentially dangerous to use.
> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration 
> details.
> E: Failed to fetch 
> http://deb.sik5nlgfc5qylnnsr57qrbm64zbdx6t4lreyhpon3ychmxmiem7tioad.onion/dists/stretch/main/binary-amd64/Packages
>   404  Not Found
> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones 
> used instead.
> 
> Is there a reason? 

Hi,

The qubes/whonix onion repos have been down for the past week or so, but
they're actually back up now so they should be working.

I don't know about whonix 14 though, I thought the current version was
still 13. Is it a beta version?

Anyways maybe try establishing a new tor circuit? Or maybe just wait a
while. You could always just use the clearnet repos temporarily, but the
onion repos are working for me now.

-Jackie

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[qubes-users] Re: fedora-26-dvm always shows updates pending, can't delete it.

2018-03-29 Thread cooloutac
On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 12:34:48 PM UTC-4, cooloutac wrote:
> Upgraded to 4.0.  was able to restore all my backup vms no problems.
> 
> Only issues i had was had to keep doing qvm-appmenus-sync on vms.
> 
> Another problem was I selected whonix as updatevm during installation,  which 
> meant fedora-26 didn't update.   I believe this is a known issue?
> 
> I followed suggestion here: 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/failed$20to$20synchronize$20cache$20%7Csort:date/qubes-users/gLqORddxb-Y/VEe-SNwCBAAJ
>and made all qubes update proxy entries changed from sys-whonix  to 
> sys-firewall.
> 
> But does this mean dom0 is not really using tor to update?  Is whonix even 
> using tor to update after doing this?  I'm confused.
> 
> 
> Also I managed to figure out how to created a new dvm template based off a 
> cloned os template.
> 
> And i won't go into all the bugs with the qube-manager I'm sure they are 
> known.   Like organizing by vm type is not the same as in 3.2 and its very 
> confusing having to keep refresh it.
> 
> But its driving me nuts that the default fedora-26-dvm always shows updates 
> pending. and I don't know how to get rid of it.  I even changed its template 
> and it still shows updates pending and it won't let me delete altogether so I 
> can just use my custom one.
> 
> Any solution to this?
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Rich.

also forgot to mention for some reason I had two sys-whonix.  there was another 
sys-whonix (1) and its not something I backed up.  happened after a dom0 
update.  I think I used testing.  and tor stopped working.   So I deleted all 
the sys-whonix and used the qubes stack to reinstall them and tor is now 
working again.  Just found it strange.

Everything seems to be working ok besides the qube-manager issues  and 
fedora-26-dvm being undeleteable.  can't figure out what is using it.  or how 
to get rid of the updates pending.


Thanks.

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[qubes-users] fedora-26-dvm always shows updates pending, can't delete it.

2018-03-29 Thread cooloutac
Upgraded to 4.0.  was able to restore all my backup vms no problems.

Only issues i had was had to keep doing qvm-appmenus-sync on vms.

Another problem was I selected whonix as updatevm during installation,  which 
meant fedora-26 didn't update.   I believe this is a known issue?

I followed suggestion here: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/qubes-users/failed$20to$20synchronize$20cache$20%7Csort:date/qubes-users/gLqORddxb-Y/VEe-SNwCBAAJ
   and made all qubes update proxy entries changed from sys-whonix  to 
sys-firewall.

But does this mean dom0 is not really using tor to update?  Is whonix even 
using tor to update after doing this?  I'm confused.


Also I managed to figure out how to created a new dvm template based off a 
cloned os template.

And i won't go into all the bugs with the qube-manager I'm sure they are known. 
  Like organizing by vm type is not the same as in 3.2 and its very confusing 
having to keep refresh it.

But its driving me nuts that the default fedora-26-dvm always shows updates 
pending. and I don't know how to get rid of it.  I even changed its template 
and it still shows updates pending and it won't let me delete altogether so I 
can just use my custom one.

Any solution to this?

Thanks 

Rich.

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[qubes-users] Re: Unable to remove TemplateVM from application menu

2018-03-29 Thread cooloutac
On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 10:28:12 PM UTC-4, Xaver wrote:
> I've successfully removed  a few TemplateVMs from my R-4.0 system but one is 
> being stubborn. The template is still showing up in Qubes manger and when I 
> run qvm-ls.  I went through all the steps in  
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/remove-vm-manually/  and was only able to 
> successfully complete step 1 and 3.
> 1.   sudo rm -rf /var/lib/qubes/vm-templates/ # command 
> successful 
> 2.   qvm-remove --just-db  # qvm-remove: error: unrecognized 
> arguments: --just-db
> 3.   sudo rm ~/.local/share/applications/* # command successful
> 4.   sudo rm /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/* # error : No 
> such file or directory
> Also tried:
> sudo dnf remove qubes-template-
> qvm-remove 
> Does anyone have a suggestion?
> Thanks in advance
> Xaver
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/remove-vm-manually/

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[qubes-users] Re: Verifying Qubes 4.0

2018-03-29 Thread cooloutac
On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 10:10:26 AM UTC-4, Steven Walker wrote:
> I am pretty much new to Qubes. Can anybody give me simple instructions on how 
> to verify my download. I have the iso asc, the digests file, and the signing 
> key asc.
> 
> Can someone help me through this?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Steven

Ya I do it as shown here https://www.qubes-os.org/security/verifying-signatures/

I don't bother with digests,  I just download the signature and the key.   and 
the master key. https://keys.qubes-os.org/keys/qubes-master-signing-key.asc

  Check the master key is the same as shown on Joanna Rutkowska twitter.  

switch to the directory you imported everything.  Then import it as shown on 
docs.  gpg --import qubes-master-signing-key.asc 

  Then import the PGP release key the same way.

Then verifyy the .asc file with the iso as shown on docs.  gpg -v --verify  
ascfile isofile

Then doublecheck the release 4 signature key shown is signed with the qubes 
master key as shown in docs as the last step with gpg --list-sig 

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Re: [qubes-users] Verifying Qubes 4.0

2018-03-29 Thread Chris Laprise

On 03/29/2018 10:10 AM, Steven Walker wrote:

I am pretty much new to Qubes. Can anybody give me simple instructions on how 
to verify my download. I have the iso asc, the digests file, and the signing 
key asc.

Can someone help me through this?

Thank you,

Steven




Here is a condensed howto which avoids some issues with the Qubes doc 
and gpg itself:

https://www.qubes-os.org/security/verifying-signatures/


1. Get the Qubes master key, preferably from more than one source or 
network channel so you can check they are all identical.


https://keys.qubes-os.org/keys/qubes-master-signing-key.asc


2. Get the signing key and iso files, as you already have.


3. Import the two keys:

$ gpg2 --import qubes-master-signing-key.asc
$ gpg2 --import qubes-release-4-signing-key.asc


3a. If you wish, additional verification of the Master key:

$ gpg2 --fingerprint


pub   rsa4096 2010-04-01 [SC]
  427F 11FD 0FAA 4B08 0123  F01C DDFA 1A3E 3687 9494
uid   [ unknown] Qubes Master Signing Key


Then search for the Qubes master key fingerprint on a Google or a 
keyserver, or view the 'verifying-signatures' doc linked above. Then 
compare that hexadecimal fingerprint and make sure whats in your shell 
matches what you see in the browser.



4. Verify the release key:

$ gpg2 --check-sigs

The output should look like this:

> pub   rsa4096 2017-03-06 [SC]
>   5817A43B283DE5A9181A522E1848792F9E2795E9
> uid   [ unknown] Qubes OS Release 4 Signing Key
> sig!31848792F9E2795E9 2017-03-06  Qubes OS Release 4 Signing Key
> sig! DDFA1A3E36879494 2017-03-08  Qubes Master Signing Key

You should see the Release 4 key in "uid" and nested under it the Master 
key. The Master key line must begin with "sig!" including the 
exclamation mark! If the exclamation is not present then the key is bad.



5. Verify the iso file:

$ gpg2 --verify Qubes-R4.0-x86_64.iso.asc Qubes-R4.0-x86_64.iso

You should see a message "Good signature from "Qubes OS Release 4 
Signing Key"



Hope this helps!

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[qubes-users] Verifying Qubes 4.0

2018-03-29 Thread Steven Walker
I am pretty much new to Qubes. Can anybody give me simple instructions on how 
to verify my download. I have the iso asc, the digests file, and the signing 
key asc.

Can someone help me through this?

Thank you,

Steven

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Re: [qubes-users] Best works-out-of-the-box dual-head gfx card?

2018-03-29 Thread 799
Stumpy  schrieb am Do., 29. März 2018, 03:01:

>
> On 09.03.2018 00:57, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> > [...]
> > The reason things break and you need to re-compile every time you
> > update your kernel with a new nvidia card in your system is because
> > they make an effort to slow down the nouveau project and in the case
> > of their brand new cards entirely block it via hardware code signing
> > enforcement and not even providing any firmware blobs.

[...]
>

Honestly, I think this should be mentioned somewhere within the Qubes Docs,
maybe a dedicated section "Not recommended Hardware" or something like
"Hardware tries to keep you unsecure".

The only way to stop those brands is to speak about it.

We are also having issues with Nvidia in our bigger desktop virtualization
projects as customers need to buy not only the server based graphic card
but also licensing and subscription...

"Nvidia, you're fired!"

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