Re: [qubes-users] How to move/migrate a VM with a Fedora-23 custom template from 3.1 to 3.2?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-12-12 13:38, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 08:04:00PM +0100, Leeteqxv wrote: >> So I am really looking for which files/folders I need to copy >> from the old system into the new installation, or, alternatively, >> if I can "migrate" or point the new system to create a new >> Template and a new AppVM by pointing it to a folder on the old >> disk to use as a template for the creation. How can this be >> done? > > You can copy appropriate directories from /var/lib/qubes/ related > to that VMs into your new installation (make sure to place them in > exactly the same location: appvms/ or vm-templates/), then use > qvm-add-template (for templates) and qvm-add-appvm (for appvms) to > register them in Qubes. Do not override any files, if VM with the > same name already exists, rename or remove it first. After this > operation, proceed to template upgrade procedure you've already > found. > Thanks; I didn't know about these tools. In the case of AppVMs, how is this different from creating a new AppVM with the same name as the old one, then replacing the new private.img with the old one? Or do both methods achieve the same effect? - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYT54lAAoJENtN07w5UDAwV+gQAKH8/g9uDe35/OGYhSOO60LJ 1PZZjNmUwHzx0rzOCWdsWWDQuJJHimgepbNOtNYDRDuwbyaukyp4nRvOoRKhcZQ9 3rMWAZYJ5X781N+vzOqv4rSqlq+4UAnbarGdg7fcBJE8A2R4nK3TVGgXgiUiKB00 OrBpvOqJjSrp1gVgIiLrVuPwlgmsQyKaVkL7HUoRhlUaG3CG+QUJJM4hDhtB5Htn WbwXC8I4fJumQ9ysOYLDwWPxAldsJ8AZhXbPWlFAqr8tc4Dp8U2gqCQ5WC1Ltj6a o1tiXXYuiEiDfHjsutP+e0KG6bEaxO6GoXhro9XmY3J+reIwTV72um5+xEgVbfnX DD4Ng1UTKoBiwkmzwTGMj0MunKwg6W2IAo8pgNWb0GTpMrWXAd5ANjzIbq40SrCk NPWggvsw7L4VaxQhVVNHjURi1U1ZGHl16e9/jrONM9AxFLMS9lIQvd9kSXAaVvci uUNgAH+Jwc57Mbw4glvWk0SOpyaMzYW4ADXIZINWHOUNrClNKJxamuFYc250LpoB hGzwAEDhHCTY7hXnlGdE01Fw1+KjnJtvUzYvMZN/NKIkjsBqnjTaCP7GCXI3chZc DSV/ddSs9RkjEF4+pZA2gLWp/vxGhQMr2ZUw78ZBu2mkVbM0AD0fMwCkXe/m+Tmj P6SfrNg0wr7ot8Vn23yn =xhfr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/16be5ff4-e49e-86fb-1376-d8e13f3edbd9%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] How to move/migrate a VM with a Fedora-23 custom template from 3.1 to 3.2?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 08:04:00PM +0100, Leeteqxv wrote: > On 11/12/16 21:48, Andrew David Wong wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA512 > > > > On 2016-12-11 09:10, Leeteqxv wrote: > > > I have a previous test installation of Qubes 3.1 on a separate HDD > > > (now external USB), which cointains a customised (cloned+extra sw > > > installs) Fedora-23 template used with a dedicated AppVM. > > > > > > Now I have Qubes 3.2 installed on a new HDD on that machine and > > > before we move on to Fedora-24 (when F23 "expires" later this > > > month), I would like to "import" that custom template AND the > > > related VM into the new (fresh) 3.2 install. > > > > > > I cannot be sure if I have all the necessary insights into Qubes > > > to assume I can just copy / paste some folders/files into the new > > > installation, so I would like to know exactly which folders/files > > > are involved, and if there are any special order/steps to take, and > > > whatever else is needed for this. I also think that the resulting > > > How-To list should be fitted into the documentation somewhere. > > > > > > (PS. I have not yet upgraded the new 3.2 system to Fedora-24, so > > > that part is not the question here. I will do the upgrade to F24 > > > after the migration of the template/VM along with the rest of the > > > system. Hence, my question here is regarding a "migrate" between > > > two F23-based systems, from Q3.1 to Q3.2) > > > > > > I am aware of the following docs: > > > > > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/ > > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/upgrade-to-r3.2/ > > > > > > Can someone provide an ordered list of steps for this? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > If I understand you correctly, it sounds like the built-in Qubes > > backup tool (qvm-backup from the command-line, also available from the > > Qubes Manager GUI) is the right tool for the job: > > > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/backup-restore/ > > > > Especially this part: > > > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/backup-restore/#migrating-between-two-physical-machines > > > Thanks for the quick response. > That method would work while still having the old system available/bootable. > But in my case, I have replaced the old HDD with a new one (on a laptop), > and need to access the old installation by simply adding that physical disk > as a USB disk into the new system. > > So I am really looking for which files/folders I need to copy from the old > system into the new installation, or, alternatively, if I can "migrate" or > point the new system to create a new Template and a new AppVM by pointing it > to a folder on the old disk to use as a template for the creation. > How can this be done? You can copy appropriate directories from /var/lib/qubes/ related to that VMs into your new installation (make sure to place them in exactly the same location: appvms/ or vm-templates/), then use qvm-add-template (for templates) and qvm-add-appvm (for appvms) to register them in Qubes. Do not override any files, if VM with the same name already exists, rename or remove it first. After this operation, proceed to template upgrade procedure you've already found. - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJYTxjpAAoJENuP0xzK19csNggH/3ooEggwxY++D9MiRdarwOPh /POUDDdC6Mqp4bWPWnd86Mmkwm4jdOR2vFsD13D5+KTJ7ew9SCZ4vNU3S3+sxdnz GIriztYOq4gUEsZojV9OkeziTAqWgVPFnCfzfONN6METpdh0ywz0VgZp29nldF11 8Y75+hmdJn6ndZk2z58BOM7VYgIeWG1FAEB4pbwqyN8lqUpUNcRtSmm1YzdF+0fK rrRQ98pjJ4/7ZBmRl9lqE48th2uZDLnI9DJUiYjezkNYVbktexe2Ro7ErBsvmIo+ 8CHvv7h4DsJYXJd3bGKSFN8US50PBNoN+qEsTrZ+eS+deQitOmmr4Xwal8zYoaE= =anX/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20161212213849.GI1180%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] How to move/migrate a VM with a Fedora-23 custom template from 3.1 to 3.2?
On 11/12/16 21:48, Andrew David Wong wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-12-11 09:10, Leeteqxv wrote: I have a previous test installation of Qubes 3.1 on a separate HDD (now external USB), which cointains a customised (cloned+extra sw installs) Fedora-23 template used with a dedicated AppVM. Now I have Qubes 3.2 installed on a new HDD on that machine and before we move on to Fedora-24 (when F23 "expires" later this month), I would like to "import" that custom template AND the related VM into the new (fresh) 3.2 install. I cannot be sure if I have all the necessary insights into Qubes to assume I can just copy / paste some folders/files into the new installation, so I would like to know exactly which folders/files are involved, and if there are any special order/steps to take, and whatever else is needed for this. I also think that the resulting How-To list should be fitted into the documentation somewhere. (PS. I have not yet upgraded the new 3.2 system to Fedora-24, so that part is not the question here. I will do the upgrade to F24 after the migration of the template/VM along with the rest of the system. Hence, my question here is regarding a "migrate" between two F23-based systems, from Q3.1 to Q3.2) I am aware of the following docs: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/ https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/upgrade-to-r3.2/ Can someone provide an ordered list of steps for this? Thanks. If I understand you correctly, it sounds like the built-in Qubes backup tool (qvm-backup from the command-line, also available from the Qubes Manager GUI) is the right tool for the job: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/backup-restore/ Especially this part: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/backup-restore/#migrating-between-two-physical-machines - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org Thanks for the quick response. That method would work while still having the old system available/bootable. But in my case, I have replaced the old HDD with a new one (on a laptop), and need to access the old installation by simply adding that physical disk as a USB disk into the new system. So I am really looking for which files/folders I need to copy from the old system into the new installation, or, alternatively, if I can "migrate" or point the new system to create a new Template and a new AppVM by pointing it to a folder on the old disk to use as a template for the creation. How can this be done? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/23a9898b-c42b-d110-03e9-ba934474666f%40leeteq.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] How to move/migrate a VM with a Fedora-23 custom template from 3.1 to 3.2?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-12-11 09:10, Leeteqxv wrote: > I have a previous test installation of Qubes 3.1 on a separate HDD > (now external USB), which cointains a customised (cloned+extra sw > installs) Fedora-23 template used with a dedicated AppVM. > > Now I have Qubes 3.2 installed on a new HDD on that machine and > before we move on to Fedora-24 (when F23 "expires" later this > month), I would like to "import" that custom template AND the > related VM into the new (fresh) 3.2 install. > > I cannot be sure if I have all the necessary insights into Qubes > to assume I can just copy / paste some folders/files into the new > installation, so I would like to know exactly which folders/files > are involved, and if there are any special order/steps to take, and > whatever else is needed for this. I also think that the resulting > How-To list should be fitted into the documentation somewhere. > > (PS. I have not yet upgraded the new 3.2 system to Fedora-24, so > that part is not the question here. I will do the upgrade to F24 > after the migration of the template/VM along with the rest of the > system. Hence, my question here is regarding a "migrate" between > two F23-based systems, from Q3.1 to Q3.2) > > I am aware of the following docs: > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/ > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/upgrade-to-r3.2/ > > Can someone provide an ordered list of steps for this? > > Thanks. > If I understand you correctly, it sounds like the built-in Qubes backup tool (qvm-backup from the command-line, also available from the Qubes Manager GUI) is the right tool for the job: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/backup-restore/ Especially this part: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/backup-restore/#migrating-between-two-physical-machines - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYTbuYAAoJENtN07w5UDAwZdcP/itDdBnMY1EDQiFBp8RjpvLr SgiQtvG7IU0seIZuyTbu0OLiDpMUUNFfYhHqOaYfvMKUFLGuX0UBPoVMWZw+OtzQ RE144c2yKOZFjdj72LY7koy25aXjXT9jlPr3SyxoBd6+au2Q8yZcQqVZIFmWXy3O +E3ySp5aBVJu5wKblDtFtE0H4nwdPBFMIJjjFB1RfYusUiuo1vPYwM3Whec0MYcn 4ll0o645V4S0BGCJUYQSOG05DRFPx1eokKKLD0i11gIv1FrJ6At/2JPf+RTOjBxw LAL+mogyyXXCD6IdD2IiL7RNuNTzkQCwCT5VVTBztESmryDQ5TVcD9W2x+16BzLu vHMHC7uGkJmcdNRNq8ZAc8OjBp51vRnhoQjseLVIHPxtrxEqMLUlal6IjxNKgt+A edMC++p1HKVW0lqexl8+hTIcsGkVQ7BjVP6LNSikfm16AsJ7sSJNfKEhWbNFu0qh ObxOSWsM91e0+VZPnjY2o/llj5Ewss629JB8qxW6N8htuqN/aI5+0LJilqvVS9Bg MKdNdfnEvG2ZYZLi9FAM3x9Ai8FYzRIDf1LC83eP3IF7Es+8AsWZpWZE1ueDtkva yf0m/QaL9CMG81DvddFc6Orp40dQwZ4Z20vnY7ELTfrDnPro1abK/ADLKp3t/csN nVEnrBFTgCUb0lXlMZk9 =cECP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/6e24524e-165b-1c6b-24e2-e8bd4b8f0c06%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] How to move/migrate a VM with a Fedora-23 custom template from 3.1 to 3.2?
I have a previous test installation of Qubes 3.1 on a separate HDD (now external USB), which cointains a customised (cloned+extra sw installs) Fedora-23 template used with a dedicated AppVM. Now I have Qubes 3.2 installed on a new HDD on that machine and before we move on to Fedora-24 (when F23 "expires" later this month), I would like to "import" that custom template AND the related VM into the new (fresh) 3.2 install. I cannot be sure if I have all the necessary insights into Qubes to assume I can just copy / paste some folders/files into the new installation, so I would like to know exactly which folders/files are involved, and if there are any special order/steps to take, and whatever else is needed for this. I also think that the resulting How-To list should be fitted into the documentation somewhere. (PS. I have not yet upgraded the new 3.2 system to Fedora-24, so that part is not the question here. I will do the upgrade to F24 after the migration of the template/VM along with the rest of the system. Hence, my question here is regarding a "migrate" between two F23-based systems, from Q3.1 to Q3.2) I am aware of the following docs: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/template/fedora/upgrade-23-to-24/ https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/upgrade-to-r3.2/ Can someone provide an ordered list of steps for this? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ed363f8d-500a-bc74-4382-9550a580221b%40leeteq.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
