Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen (20FB)
New HCL attached. No remaining complaints about this laptop (well... aside from being too new for coreboot). It is entirely usable as a Qubes machine. I get about 6 hours battery life with a workload that involves starting many VMs frequently (lots of DispVM starting seems to be the largest drain). Hopefully one day High-DPI support in linux in general will improve and I can take advantage of my whole screen. For now I'm running in globally-reduced resolution (in dom0) due to inconsistent scaling across apps and VMs. This means less pixels to software-render in VMs anyway, which is nice for performance, power consumption, and screen tearing. I still have iwlmvm & iwlwifi in my sys-net's /rw/config/suspend-module-blacklist. Haven't tested if it's still necessary since the drivers are reloaded faster than I can type my screen-unlock password anyway, so in practice I don't care :) On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 1:29 AM, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: >> On 02/27/2017 03:11 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: >>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 02:56:53PM -0500, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote: I still have issues with suspend/resume. Sometimes it fails to resume, and sometimes it fails to suspend (leading to a hot backpack and/or quickly dead battery). >>> >>> what are your exact symptoms? mine are: suspend works nicely, but no >>> resume >>> (no reaction at all in fact) once I press the keys to wake up my machine, >>> which is a X260, also skylake, also 4.8.12 + xen 4.6.4. >>> >>> -> this doesnt happen always, but around 20% of the time or so. Pretty >>> often. > > It often seems to suspend correctly (backlight turns off, fans turn > off, power consumption minimal (does not get hot over time), and power > button & top-cover LEDs start pulsing) but does not wake on any input > (keyboard, touchpad, or pushing the power button). In order to recover > from this state I must press and hold the power button for several > (~3-5?) seconds. Interestingly, pressing the power button again > appears to start the normal power-on sequence (keyboard flashes, power > button led turns solid-on, etc.) but does not actually boot (IIRC > hangs at black screen after lenovo logo splash or something), and I > need to hold it an additional time (IIRC turning off after ~1 second) > and turn it on again. It always boots fine this 2nd time. This happens > about once a day. > > Very occasionally (~ once a week) it will fail to suspend. I close the > laptop, and the backlight turns off and stops responding to input, but > the power status LED on the outside of the lid stays solid red (does > not begin pulsating), the fans stay on, and will get hot if put in a > backpack. Suspend/resume was fixed at some point by a BIOS update. Not one of the ones where they mentioned sleep/suspend/resume in the release notes though... The latest BIOS hashes I observe are: $ sha256sum n1*17* 4b5488be128d9c022cd4924476d48e38dd55c38809db0f3a6c06f1a2d2ad0217 n1fuj17w.exe 918c836905db7709433b4dc03eddcbb04ccb8773f31f5b22b5b92388b56a3002 n1fuj17w.txt 5e5f9cfec0dcb299a033be0b4006af8697045876c4ef18a34716b894c48b917b n1fur17w.iso 1dcdf1ffd2cd30be225db49e8210de2dabba32c5aaf3179a89e3d8f0cca61f3a n1fur17w.txt Obtained from: https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles/n1fu{r{01..17}w.{iso,txt},j{01..17}w.{exe,txt}} Downloaded from multiple network positions over multiple days with matching hashes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CABQWM_ASKXPuZx6GyyK3Te6Y%3D%3DJNZ0HQ%3DuHNyxarEu%2BXeaBs4A%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Qubes-HCL-LENOVO-20FBCTO1WW-20170404-001900.yml Description: application/yaml
Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen (20FB)
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 03:42:51PM -0500, Chris Laprise wrote: > Do either of you use anti-evil-maid? not yet. -- cheers, Holger -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20170228112932.GA29712%40layer-acht.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen (20FB)
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: > On 02/27/2017 03:11 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 02:56:53PM -0500, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote: >>> I still have issues with suspend/resume. Sometimes it fails to resume, >>> and sometimes it fails to suspend (leading to a hot backpack and/or >>> quickly dead battery). >> >> what are your exact symptoms? mine are: suspend works nicely, but no >> resume >> (no reaction at all in fact) once I press the keys to wake up my machine, >> which is a X260, also skylake, also 4.8.12 + xen 4.6.4. >> >> -> this doesnt happen always, but around 20% of the time or so. Pretty >> often. It often seems to suspend correctly (backlight turns off, fans turn off, power consumption minimal (does not get hot over time), and power button & top-cover LEDs start pulsing) but does not wake on any input (keyboard, touchpad, or pushing the power button). In order to recover from this state I must press and hold the power button for several (~3-5?) seconds. Interestingly, pressing the power button again appears to start the normal power-on sequence (keyboard flashes, power button led turns solid-on, etc.) but does not actually boot (IIRC hangs at black screen after lenovo logo splash or something), and I need to hold it an additional time (IIRC turning off after ~1 second) and turn it on again. It always boots fine this 2nd time. This happens about once a day. Very occasionally (~ once a week) it will fail to suspend. I close the laptop, and the backlight turns off and stops responding to input, but the power status LED on the outside of the lid stays solid red (does not begin pulsating), the fans stay on, and will get hot if put in a backpack. >> I think we should file an issue in the "real" tracker… (or is there one >> already? I think I tried searching for one, but didnt fine any…) Not sure where you mean. kernel.org? xenproject.org? qubes-issues? >> I'd also be glad to try a 4.9 or 4.10 based kernel… Yeah... I've been meaning to get around to building one, but... free time :( Same for investigating xen 4.8. > Do either of you use anti-evil-maid? That, with recent versions of Xen, > seems to be one of the triggers for this behavior. I boot this machine via EFI. I am not aware of ever having gotten legacy booting to work on this hardware (which is required for AEM [1]). [1]: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-antievilmaid/commit/4264f113b85085d20e4d8cacc5d2a0ae196af1ed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CABQWM_Au0YFc%3DR6OVpnAJiX_e9LTpGoPGWhSZYQ_P1FSathmRQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen (20FB)
On 02/27/2017 03:11 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 02:56:53PM -0500, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote: In the interest of maximizing list archive utility, I'm attaching a new HCL here (bumped kernel to 4.8.12-12 & xen to 4.6.4). I still have issues with suspend/resume. Sometimes it fails to resume, and sometimes it fails to suspend (leading to a hot backpack and/or quickly dead battery). what are your exact symptoms? mine are: suspend works nicely, but no resume (no reaction at all in fact) once I press the keys to wake up my machine, which is a X260, also skylake, also 4.8.12 + xen 4.6.4. -> this doesnt happen always, but around 20% of the time or so. Pretty often. I think we should file an issue in the "real" tracker… (or is there one already? I think I tried searching for one, but didnt fine any…) I'd also be glad to try a 4.9 or 4.10 based kernel… Do either of you use anti-evil-maid? That, with recent versions of Xen, seems to be one of the triggers for this behavior. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/02a62028-12df-b570-1967-a1cde1ce60ee%40openmailbox.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen (20FB)
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 02:56:53PM -0500, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote: > In the interest of maximizing list archive utility, I'm attaching a > new HCL here (bumped kernel to 4.8.12-12 & xen to 4.6.4). > > I still have issues with suspend/resume. Sometimes it fails to resume, > and sometimes it fails to suspend (leading to a hot backpack and/or > quickly dead battery). what are your exact symptoms? mine are: suspend works nicely, but no resume (no reaction at all in fact) once I press the keys to wake up my machine, which is a X260, also skylake, also 4.8.12 + xen 4.6.4. -> this doesnt happen always, but around 20% of the time or so. Pretty often. I think we should file an issue in the "real" tracker… (or is there one already? I think I tried searching for one, but didnt fine any…) I'd also be glad to try a 4.9 or 4.10 based kernel… -- cheers, Holger -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20170227194817.GA23504%40layer-acht.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[qubes-users] Re: HCL - Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen (20FB)
In the interest of maximizing list archive utility, I'm attaching a new HCL here (bumped kernel to 4.8.12-12 & xen to 4.6.4). I still have issues with suspend/resume. Sometimes it fails to resume, and sometimes it fails to suspend (leading to a hot backpack and/or quickly dead battery). There is now another HCL of the same laptop here [1] which claims that kernel 4.8.12-12 fixes the suspend-resume issues, but this has not been the case for me. [1]: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/qubes-users/kLlBahlTRK0/rInkUwa0FAAJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CABQWM_B1GWHzfoO%3DN7_z1WRhnC-ph89TpyORBeaLjYYFVqg%3D3w%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Qubes-HCL-LENOVO-20FBCTO1WW-20170226-144830.yml Description: application/yaml
Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen (20FB)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 02:47:29AM -0500, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > wrote: > > You can temporarily set sys-firewall netvm to none. This will allow you > > to shutdown/restart sys-net without consequences. Remember to change > > sys-firewall netvm back to sys-net afterwards. > > Good to know! I wish I'd thought of that earlier :) > > >> Curiously, the wireless didn't hang while i had the 4.4 kernel in > >> dom0, and now it hangs with 4.8 in dom0 and either 4.4 OR 4.8 in > >> sys-net. This does not make sense to me, but it is indeed what I have > >> observed. Perhaps it was also failing before and I just never noticed > >> because the whole machine would hang so often. > > > > I'd guess the later... When it hangs, does the suspend before takes > > usual not-so-long time, or is significantly longer? > > Assuming you mean "when the wireless card attached to sys-net appears > to hang, does immediately prior overall system resume appear to take > longer?" then I have not noticed that to be the case. I will try to be > more aware of that in the future. > > What do you suspect that makes you ask this? When suspending the system, dom0 ask each VM having any PCI device to suspend itself (properly suspending the device etc). But there is a timeout (AFAIR 30s) after which VM is simply paused. In that case, the device/driver after resume most likely will be confused... In some cases it reset the device and work just fine, in other cases driver reload is needed, or even VM restart. - - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJYK5PbAAoJENuP0xzK19csk2UH/AyXaXCdIRa8a9y0so5ZQjkB KijrMe6gn0zEZcQ3eFBLsSsHEl1wvN3tzY3uV/TA8iAzG3PhZ76Edcp6p7Nrifzp Cg+AtDGUk1oPJIQDLUIbEtyDAQztfy8HfYMHviS+HmqH6zL3DGUYO2D/10zaXrhu TTImi9EpSMMC2Z+LZGEtLf0fyFGZwvK3g5bN+Dzesav6EWNnku4uvw9PJgNtJFKb TVqcGh7Aqn7gyC1/ZpMHO9bevXsQ7A8Y5X05B4k5ptnghUWq3U/Z5qTHBAxsEILP XVp8x9SGRTMwib2Fi2HT4i8P26Y0M5bo/wGKrvZXKP5P/UPcsB+zf3tm5o2npqY= =pGQ0 - -END PGP SIGNATURE- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJYK5R8AAoJENuP0xzK19csuaIH/0Wxb0SyDtOsw/IzE57vbAeA eKEBZcmK3i62iziHzLVX/Jnx72orPLH2rzFl9mQkeGmV+iqgmeQTcQSe5XHhJrjX xVfr5RqbFHEDK9pED22BvQI2biFt+L0HGyWQuTcDsQneXUMNBZldFKcrIJ/sPZ+Z e4FF42WLLwmXSa8aS8DMlcRQWLjoH3pgnhiSzNAYyTDCDeB9xWwzmsFClfP4RgAR 0pR4OW28439F/9EjUJR3fYymbi5CV/c8MLqUiniOTEr9FW1mn3Nr/rPaVXlzhnMJ y1hk97dl9wQRalTJEBwoXF+Wo1jqovIx9IaiGU2B3y8ao332yCAVa+qP+FPIUss= =wNCY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20161115230147.GM17458%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen (20FB)
I found it hung again today with pulsing power button and no 100% fans this time to alert me to suspend problem (just a hot backpack). The old failure symptoms appear still present, but nowhere near as frequent. I'm honestly surprised I still haven't noticed any problems due to file-system corruption. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CABQWM_DYW8msmeZjUGnuoNbLqLZ6vxowDi3bFaTY4U0sociktw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen (20FB)
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > You can temporarily set sys-firewall netvm to none. This will allow you > to shutdown/restart sys-net without consequences. Remember to change > sys-firewall netvm back to sys-net afterwards. Good to know! I wish I'd thought of that earlier :) >> Curiously, the wireless didn't hang while i had the 4.4 kernel in >> dom0, and now it hangs with 4.8 in dom0 and either 4.4 OR 4.8 in >> sys-net. This does not make sense to me, but it is indeed what I have >> observed. Perhaps it was also failing before and I just never noticed >> because the whole machine would hang so often. > > I'd guess the later... When it hangs, does the suspend before takes > usual not-so-long time, or is significantly longer? Assuming you mean "when the wireless card attached to sys-net appears to hang, does immediately prior overall system resume appear to take longer?" then I have not noticed that to be the case. I will try to be more aware of that in the future. What do you suspect that makes you ask this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CABQWM_BDY7JFJ39AZX-fJQv1vs4KJ%2BukzWcAd98N0afXrzJ-Yg%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen (20FB)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 02:02:31AM -0500, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote: > tl;dr - kernel-4.8.7-11 +1 from me! > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 1:20 AM, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote: > > The laptop fails to resume about once a day and requires a > > hold-the-power-button reset > > I'm hoping that newer kernels fix this (dom0 currently on 4.4.14-11), > > Since last Friday (~3 days) I've been on kernel-4.8.7-11 from > qubes-dom0-testing with only a single full-fan hang while attempting > to resume (not the usual failure mode, and *much* less frequent), as > opposed to the several-per-day just-dead hangs I was consistently > experiencing before, so... progress! :) > > Wireless[1] now sometimes fails to come back after resume with this in > the dmesg: > Freezing user space processes ... (elapsed 0.001 seconds) done. > Freezing remaining freezable tasks ... (elapsed 0.001 seconds) done. > PM: freeze of devices complete after 0.090 msecs > suspending xenstore... > PM: late freeze of devices complete after 0.053 msecs > PM: noirq freeze of devices complete after 21.827 msecs > xen:grant_table: Grant tables using version 1 layout > PM: noirq thaw of devices complete after 0.648 msecs > PM: early thaw of devices complete after 0.089 msecs > PM: thaw of devices complete after 0.453 msecs > Restarting tasks ... done. > IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlp0s0: link is not ready > iwlwifi :00:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Enabled > iwlwifi :00:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Enabled > iwlwifi :00:00.0: Failed to load firmware chunk! > iwlwifi :00:00.0: Could not load the [0] uCode section > iwlwifi :00:00.0: Failed to start INIT ucode: -110 > iwlwifi :00:00.0: Failed to run INIT ucode: -110 > iwlwifi :00:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Enabled > iwlwifi :00:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Enabled > iwlwifi :00:00.0: Failed to load firmware chunk! > iwlwifi :00:00.0: Could not load the [0] uCode section > iwlwifi :00:00.0: Failed to start INIT ucode: -110 > iwlwifi :00:00.0: Failed to run INIT ucode: -110 > > > Rebooting sys-net (so far) reliably makes it work again (and man... I > really wish there were some way to restart it without shutting > everything else down first - it'd be awesome if sys-firewall would > gracefully re-establish whatever it needs. idk what that would be > exactly, or what the challenges are - i haven't looked under the hood > of qubes networking yet). You can temporarily set sys-firewall netvm to none. This will allow you to shutdown/restart sys-net without consequences. Remember to change sys-firewall netvm back to sys-net afterwards. > Curiously, the wireless didn't hang while i had the 4.4 kernel in > dom0, and now it hangs with 4.8 in dom0 and either 4.4 OR 4.8 in > sys-net. This does not make sense to me, but it is indeed what I have > observed. Perhaps it was also failing before and I just never noticed > because the whole machine would hang so often. I'd guess the later... When it hangs, does the suspend before takes usual not-so-long time, or is significantly longer? > [1]: lspci => 00:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless > 8260 (rev 3a) - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJYKimzAAoJENuP0xzK19csTdMH/iSFWVihOXWVvpaY1743SFYR ODmahDetFwdgPdcRCun8190uP0c0MsE8CCqZOT5EMqnGD3EdVSFYx/zU3yG+Yi6b 3dY1kBcL0jS5ANk1i8DaYis/U5USxHmWHJ4pWkIqiC/u3ErruyUW80hXaHF73QDf 9agjnjSudidbbD7p/3J3BqD7cW9APUEoqPjvTgsrrdEOvc3tKFK6yfYE3WktGhee rbnImBhsjwWz1nR3YsS5tCwmqMBCRfgOqo5sZc5K1lbzrc0d1/ZNKaUGf8lQXE9X S7LYhVBzMMLZAfo13Y/bPYupmOdXqxAqMU6O0KOZ85QQzyvYUFNEf9RwYF+hbsc= =Fo4R -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20161114211635.GA3417%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen (20FB)
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 2:02 AM, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote: > kernel-4.8.7-11 from qubes-dom0-testing Err, that should be qubes-dom0-unstable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CABQWM_C%2BQAvtzSzy_Xvrx%2Bgmbt2PbFCLN9SH%2B6rsqmZtnKqgoA%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen (20FB)
tl;dr - kernel-4.8.7-11 +1 from me! On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 1:20 AM, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote: > The laptop fails to resume about once a day and requires a > hold-the-power-button reset > I'm hoping that newer kernels fix this (dom0 currently on 4.4.14-11), Since last Friday (~3 days) I've been on kernel-4.8.7-11 from qubes-dom0-testing with only a single full-fan hang while attempting to resume (not the usual failure mode, and *much* less frequent), as opposed to the several-per-day just-dead hangs I was consistently experiencing before, so... progress! :) Wireless[1] now sometimes fails to come back after resume with this in the dmesg: Freezing user space processes ... (elapsed 0.001 seconds) done. Freezing remaining freezable tasks ... (elapsed 0.001 seconds) done. PM: freeze of devices complete after 0.090 msecs suspending xenstore... PM: late freeze of devices complete after 0.053 msecs PM: noirq freeze of devices complete after 21.827 msecs xen:grant_table: Grant tables using version 1 layout PM: noirq thaw of devices complete after 0.648 msecs PM: early thaw of devices complete after 0.089 msecs PM: thaw of devices complete after 0.453 msecs Restarting tasks ... done. IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlp0s0: link is not ready iwlwifi :00:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Enabled iwlwifi :00:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Enabled iwlwifi :00:00.0: Failed to load firmware chunk! iwlwifi :00:00.0: Could not load the [0] uCode section iwlwifi :00:00.0: Failed to start INIT ucode: -110 iwlwifi :00:00.0: Failed to run INIT ucode: -110 iwlwifi :00:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Enabled iwlwifi :00:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Enabled iwlwifi :00:00.0: Failed to load firmware chunk! iwlwifi :00:00.0: Could not load the [0] uCode section iwlwifi :00:00.0: Failed to start INIT ucode: -110 iwlwifi :00:00.0: Failed to run INIT ucode: -110 Rebooting sys-net (so far) reliably makes it work again (and man... I really wish there were some way to restart it without shutting everything else down first - it'd be awesome if sys-firewall would gracefully re-establish whatever it needs. idk what that would be exactly, or what the challenges are - i haven't looked under the hood of qubes networking yet). Curiously, the wireless didn't hang while i had the 4.4 kernel in dom0, and now it hangs with 4.8 in dom0 and either 4.4 OR 4.8 in sys-net. This does not make sense to me, but it is indeed what I have observed. Perhaps it was also failing before and I just never noticed because the whole machine would hang so often. [1]: lspci => 00:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 8260 (rev 3a) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CABQWM_Avb0g5uBGHXzgwJ70PMNj0FM_oB9Ut4m%2BZZVNVAPyEJQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen (20FB)
Also, here are the hashes of the files I used to update my BIOS to 1.18 without ever booting windows following the procedure described here: http://www.floccinaucinihilipilification.net/blog/2011/10/2/updating-the-bios-of-a-thinkpad-x220-using-linux.html $ sha256sum geteltorito.pl x1carbon-bios-1.18/* 378a6305edb9397978e60b7908a85dd8c2546f2808cb845552d5e4a8ba9baab3 geteltorito.pl 0e13111e41f0ae79c0941865ee9647a19b698368ae71d1fca81f35a837463b85 x1carbon-bios-1.18/n1fuj12w.exe c10ed88917a7f8779059a07e9f517b925a2ba714040518f019293728bbe4b0eb x1carbon-bios-1.18/n1fuj12w.txt e15fa987b0285254519cfb755667d7174374c75b1323343f69f9fc0670bc875f x1carbon-bios-1.18/n1fur12w-extracted.img eb08c3723293d82dd5f0f953de16d7f995b70b4abc6c7ab9144b620941a658f8 x1carbon-bios-1.18/n1fur12w.iso bebf6bce6ff99ed66737f6fbad958f949a06b3df7173941ff6062f76c7c2f8e3 x1carbon-bios-1.18/n1fur12w.txt If you get an x1 and yours differ I would *really* like to know! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CABQWM_Ch%2BJE%3DBfsSGWLvZVY84W3BZRFgTL4r72z%3Di91GK4nCSA%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen (20FB)
If you're going to get one, I'd say definitely go with 16gb ram, and know that NVMe vs traditional SSDs appear to be equally well supported. The idea of a WWAN module (w/ accompanying free-to-do-whatever baseband) in a laptop is a scary proposition and highly un-recommended, and so are the vPro-labeled NICs (because AMT) but it appears you can't get the model with the fastest processor without one. You can "permanently disable AMT" via a bios option, but in reality who knows if that actually means anything. A note about placing orders: be sure that you haven't inadvertently selected a back-ordered component. The order page lead time should say 5-7 days. If it says 10-12 days, they're lying, that's just their hard-coded "longer than 5-7 days" time. I had a >1 month delay due to the disk (which I only found out by contacting support after 12 days and asking wtf was up), and I ended up canceling my order and placing a new one with different components. (Or perhaps my delays were simply because the [A-Z]{3} interdiction and implanting facility had a backlog of work to do... who knows ^_^) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CABQWM_B3aorrp7GmheHneNnrt5mVxDNT0jfxz9kGB%3DYm%3D01cJA%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: HCL - Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen (20FB)
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 8:17 PM, wrote: > Can you let me know how things function under 3.2? Any improvements? I am > keen to get the X1 4th generation but I want to make sure it has full Qubes > compatibility since that will be it's primary purpose. 3.2 is no different from 3.2-rc3 from an x1 hardware-support perspective. Some things I've discovered since my original post: The laptop fails to resume about once a day and requires a hold-the-power-button reset. So far this has not caused any corruption that I've noticed (perhaps I'm just lucky) and has been only mildly annoying (or more-than-mildly annoying when forced to re-type my disk password in a not-so-private environment as a side-effect of rebooting). I'm hoping that newer kernels fix this (dom0 currently on 4.4.14-11), but I have yet to get around to actually trying it. Unfortunately I have more pressing things to work on than rebasing the qubes kernel patches and rebooting all day. Perhaps I'll get around to it some weekend in the not-so-distant future if somebody doesn't beat me to it... Battery life for normal browsing, text editing, and the occasional compile seems to be roughly 6-8 hours. The super-high-dpi screen IMO turned out to actually be rather annoying due to insufficient maturity of high-dpi support and my eyes not having built-in magnifying glasses, so I'm running it at globally-reduced resolution (scaled w/ xrandr in dom0). That's kinda lame, but oh well. Overall I would recommend it. It's been my primary machine for the past few weeks. Support is good enough right now, and will only improve with time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CABQWM_AwAV1pL2SNC8iX%2Bqx8x4rPzr8wEe_19OFd1k23W-NCFA%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: HCL - Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon 4th gen (20FB)
Can you let me know how things function under 3.2? Any improvements? I am keen to get the X1 4th generation but I want to make sure it has full Qubes compatibility since that will be it's primary purpose. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7fe10dc2-64d9-41cb-a4a6-887c4149f252%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.