Re: [qubes-users] Running rkt containers directly on zen?

2018-01-10 Thread Naja Melan
Yes,

thanks, I have installed Mirage Firewall.

Some more info that might interest people here. I got some answers from a 
developer of stage1-xen rkt:

https://github.com/rkt/stage1-xen/issues/1#issuecomment-356764768

Also in December Xen launched a new initiative for unikernals, called unikraft. 
This is an initiative to make a standard for unikernels that makes development 
and deployment of them easier:

https://www.xenproject.org/developers/teams/unikraft.html

Im looking forward to a time where most things in Qubes will be running in 
unikernels rather than in full Linux.

Imagine having a unikernel that does all sanitation and validation of data that 
gets sent cross domain, well documented, tested written in Rust for performance 
and safety, with a whitelist approach, rather than all of those python, bash 
and C scripts doing their own sanitation and validation.

It would be much more sane in terms of security, much easier to audit, ...

What about wayland in a unikernel, the graphics drivers, ...?

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Re: [qubes-users] Running rkt containers directly on zen?

2018-01-02 Thread Unman
On Mon, Jan 01, 2018 at 01:40:00PM +, Naja Melan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> While searching on the internet I stumbled onto this:
> 
> https://github.com/rkt/stage1-xen
> 
> Would this work on qubes? Anyone already doing it?
> 
> Also found some stuff about rumprun unikernels allowing directly running any 
> posix app on xen. It seems awfully quiet about such initiatives, which 
> puzzles me because surely being able to run applications in total isolation 
> without the overhead (memory, disk, cpu) of a full linux install is very 
> interesting for something like qubes right?
> 
> What is the current state of affairs? 
> 
> Naja Melan
> 

There's actually been some discussion on unikernels for at least the
last 2 years, both in qubes-users and qubes-devel.
Thomas Leonard has implemented a minimal sys-firewall as a MirageOS-based 
unikernel:
- http://roscidus.com/blog/blog/2016/01/01/a-unikernel-firewall-for-qubesos/
- https://github.com/talex5/qubes-mirage-firewall

and recently, (19/12/2017) announced v 0.4 on this list

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[qubes-users] Running rkt containers directly on zen?

2018-01-01 Thread Naja Melan
Hi,

While searching on the internet I stumbled onto this:

https://github.com/rkt/stage1-xen

Would this work on qubes? Anyone already doing it?

Also found some stuff about rumprun unikernels allowing directly running any 
posix app on xen. It seems awfully quiet about such initiatives, which puzzles 
me because surely being able to run applications in total isolation without the 
overhead (memory, disk, cpu) of a full linux install is very interesting for 
something like qubes right?

What is the current state of affairs? 

Naja Melan

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