Re: [qubes-users] Re: Does Qubes-OS 4.0.1 have support for KDE or GNOME desktop environment?
On 6/15/19 4:44 PM, john s. wrote: On 6/15/19 12:50 AM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 6/14/19 6:00 PM, Jon deps wrote: On 6/5/19 8:00 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 6/2/19 3:41 AM, Finn wrote: I've installed Qubes-OS 4.0.1 and it's XFCE desktop environment but I would rather prefer either KDE or GNOME desktop environment. I found this document[1] where mentioned that Qubes-OS is migrating towards GNOME but at the time of installation only XFCE (neither KDE nor GNOME) is available. I was wondering, is there a way I can use my preferred desktop environment? Or, I have to wait for GNOME until migration is not fully completed because it seems currently there is no support for KDE. [1]: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usability-ux/ KDE does have support AFAIK, although its no long the default. If you can get used to the blank-space network icon, then I recommend KDE as there are many pluses. I don't believe Qubes is actually going to migrate to Gnome. There was an aborted attempt and Gnome 3's paradigm (tablet touch UI, melded WM/app widgets) doesn't seem compatible with Qubes' concept. seems to want about 4 times the dom0 RAM and still buggy am getting all these flashing windows bar and applications menu hit and miss giving dom0 memory boost 800 MiB and minimal qubes memory 400 MiB or so , so gave up btw, is there any documentation on recommended RAM for dom0 using XFCE I'd like to put back the Default memory settings but don't know what they are What GPU does your system have? I'm running KDE comfortably in only 1.5GB dom0 memory, and my graphics are Intel HD integrated. I don't recall the exact procedure to set dom0 memory. It begins with changing GRUB_CMDLINE_XEN_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and then you run a command to update it. so your 1.5GB of dom0 memory is NOT the dom0 "memory boost" in the Qubes Global Settings? which I'm assuming is akin to "maxmem" for other VMs ? Right, its the base dom0 memory settings, which you can also add temporarily from grub menu (hit 'e', make change then boot). My dom0 'memory boost' in Qubes Global Settings is only 160MB. The dom0 kernel I'm using is 4.19.43. I also have intel integrated graphics, maybe kabylake generation Mine is Ivy Bridge, much older. at minimal qube memory 1564 and dom0 memory boost 5138 I am still finding it unusable the app menus don't appear , I keep fighting the taskbar widgets which then somehow I make appear on the desktop not the taskbar, then can't get them back on the taskbar, etc, which maybe a / the KDE learning curve . nice to see something less austere using Qubes, that I might be able to understand but if it requires me to change something in Grub and not just the Global Settings ...maybe time to give up :) What happens if you change to sddm, what I'm using? In fact, it seems I removed lightdm from dom0. Also, for something easy to try, you can turn off the compositor with Alt-Shift-F12. And the KDE compositor settings are under Display / Compositor. If none of that works, it may simply be a compatibility problem that the old Fedora 25 possesses. -- Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net https://github.com/tasket https://twitter.com/ttaskett PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e53ccb8b-0cfb-664d-1626-d511f45d37c6%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Does Qubes-OS 4.0.1 have support for KDE or GNOME desktop environment?
On 6/15/19 12:50 AM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 6/14/19 6:00 PM, Jon deps wrote: On 6/5/19 8:00 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 6/2/19 3:41 AM, Finn wrote: I've installed Qubes-OS 4.0.1 and it's XFCE desktop environment but I would rather prefer either KDE or GNOME desktop environment. I found this document[1] where mentioned that Qubes-OS is migrating towards GNOME but at the time of installation only XFCE (neither KDE nor GNOME) is available. I was wondering, is there a way I can use my preferred desktop environment? Or, I have to wait for GNOME until migration is not fully completed because it seems currently there is no support for KDE. [1]: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usability-ux/ KDE does have support AFAIK, although its no long the default. If you can get used to the blank-space network icon, then I recommend KDE as there are many pluses. I don't believe Qubes is actually going to migrate to Gnome. There was an aborted attempt and Gnome 3's paradigm (tablet touch UI, melded WM/app widgets) doesn't seem compatible with Qubes' concept. seems to want about 4 times the dom0 RAM and still buggy am getting all these flashing windows bar and applications menu hit and miss giving dom0 memory boost 800 MiB and minimal qubes memory 400 MiB or so , so gave up btw, is there any documentation on recommended RAM for dom0 using XFCE I'd like to put back the Default memory settings but don't know what they are What GPU does your system have? I'm running KDE comfortably in only 1.5GB dom0 memory, and my graphics are Intel HD integrated. I don't recall the exact procedure to set dom0 memory. It begins with changing GRUB_CMDLINE_XEN_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and then you run a command to update it. so your 1.5GB of dom0 memory is NOT the dom0 "memory boost" in the Qubes Global Settings? which I'm assuming is akin to "maxmem" for other VMs ? I also have intel integrated graphics, maybe kabylake generation at minimal qube memory 1564 and dom0 memory boost 5138 I am still finding it unusable the app menus don't appear , I keep fighting the taskbar widgets which then somehow I make appear on the desktop not the taskbar, then can't get them back on the taskbar, etc, which maybe a / the KDE learning curve . nice to see something less austere using Qubes, that I might be able to understand but if it requires me to change something in Grub and not just the Global Settings ...maybe time to give up :) -- A895 0C7C A244 8E2E FD77 A3DB 180B 7D4D D158 F8B6 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e9a72bbf-f2ef-d0a6-c011-fabb1f66eadd%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Does Qubes-OS 4.0.1 have support for KDE or GNOME desktop environment?
Chris Laprise wrote on 6/15/19 12:50 AM: On 6/14/19 6:00 PM, Jon deps wrote: I'd like to put back the Default memory settings but don't know what they are What GPU does your system have? I'm running KDE comfortably in only 1.5GB dom0 memory, and my graphics are Intel HD integrated. I don't recall the exact procedure to set dom0 memory. It begins with changing GRUB_CMDLINE_XEN_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and then you run a command to update it. Defaults are dom0_mem=min:1024M dom0_mem=max:4096M. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/879a0964-ba36-abcb-f67a-4516cd99b5ff%40danwin1210.me. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Does Qubes-OS 4.0.1 have support for KDE or GNOME desktop environment?
On 6/14/19 6:00 PM, Jon deps wrote: On 6/5/19 8:00 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: On 6/2/19 3:41 AM, Finn wrote: I've installed Qubes-OS 4.0.1 and it's XFCE desktop environment but I would rather prefer either KDE or GNOME desktop environment. I found this document[1] where mentioned that Qubes-OS is migrating towards GNOME but at the time of installation only XFCE (neither KDE nor GNOME) is available. I was wondering, is there a way I can use my preferred desktop environment? Or, I have to wait for GNOME until migration is not fully completed because it seems currently there is no support for KDE. [1]: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usability-ux/ KDE does have support AFAIK, although its no long the default. If you can get used to the blank-space network icon, then I recommend KDE as there are many pluses. I don't believe Qubes is actually going to migrate to Gnome. There was an aborted attempt and Gnome 3's paradigm (tablet touch UI, melded WM/app widgets) doesn't seem compatible with Qubes' concept. seems to want about 4 times the dom0 RAM and still buggy am getting all these flashing windows bar and applications menu hit and miss giving dom0 memory boost 800 MiB and minimal qubes memory 400 MiB or so , so gave up btw, is there any documentation on recommended RAM for dom0 using XFCE I'd like to put back the Default memory settings but don't know what they are What GPU does your system have? I'm running KDE comfortably in only 1.5GB dom0 memory, and my graphics are Intel HD integrated. I don't recall the exact procedure to set dom0 memory. It begins with changing GRUB_CMDLINE_XEN_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and then you run a command to update it. -- Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net https://github.com/tasket https://twitter.com/ttaskett PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/53456506-75e0-87da-2378-a942d87addb8%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Does Qubes-OS 4.0.1 have support for KDE or GNOME desktop environment?
On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 03:34:53AM +, Jon deps wrote: > On 6/5/19 8:00 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: > > On 6/2/19 3:41 AM, Finn wrote: > > > I've installed Qubes-OS 4.0.1 and it's XFCE desktop environment but I > > > would rather prefer either KDE or GNOME desktop environment. I found > > > this document[1] where mentioned that Qubes-OS is migrating towards > > > GNOME but at the time of installation only XFCE (neither KDE nor GNOME) > > > is available. I was wondering, is there a way I can use my preferred > > > desktop environment? Or, I have to wait for GNOME until migration is not > > > fully completed because it seems currently there is no support for KDE. > > > > > > > > > [1]: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usability-ux/ > > > > KDE does have support AFAIK, although its no long the default. If you > > can get used to the blank-space network icon, then I recommend KDE as > > there are many pluses. > > > > I don't believe Qubes is actually going to migrate to Gnome. There was > > an aborted attempt and Gnome 3's paradigm (tablet touch UI, melded > > WM/app widgets) doesn't seem compatible with Qubes' concept. > > > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/kde/ > > suppose one follow these instructions but does *not want to use sddm nor > change any windows management settings > > on reboot > > one is logged into XFCE then, in dom0 can type > > startkde > > or startkde --replace xfce ? > > but this seems to result in 2 taskbars running > > > what would be the way to choose the DM on login or to startkde and close > xfce or is that possible ? > At the login screen, there's a drop dowm menu allowing you to choose which DM to apply, no? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20190613140407.occqxhgaplja7q7z%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
