Re: [qubes-users] DisposableVM Closing/Stopping Unexpectedly
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 12:10:12AM +0200, Qubes wrote: > On 6/29/20 10:34 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > > Qubes: > > > On 6/29/20 10:03 PM, haaber wrote: > > > > On 6/29/20 9:25 PM, Qubes wrote: > > > > > On 6/29/20 3:42 PM, Qubes wrote: > > > > > > If I try to open a terminal in a dvm, I have tried in both the dvm's > > > > > > that are installed by default (Disposable: fedora-31-dvm and > > > > > > Disposable: whonix-ws-15-dvm) and one that I created on my own by > > > > > > just > > > > > > creating a qube and setting the "Disposable VM Template" flag. > > > > > > > > > > > > When I open a terminal in any of these the new disposable VM gets > > > > > > created, is started, and the terminal opens briefly, but then closes > > > > > > immediately after and the disposable VM gets deleted. > > > > > > > > > > > > Which log should I look at to troubleshoot? > > > > Use xterm instead. Gnome terminal does that with dvms because of how it > > starts. > > > I am not sure I agree. Gnome is the default in Qubes. A vanilla Qubes > install works and the default is the Gnome terminal. > awokd is right - This is a long standing problem and there is an issue relating to it - gnome terminal actually spawns gnome-terminal-server to spawn a new window and then exits. Because the command you called has exited the disposableVM closes, as expected. Strange but true. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20200630005435.GA29022%40thirdeyesecurity.org.
Re: [qubes-users] DisposableVM Closing/Stopping Unexpectedly
On 6/29/20 10:34 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: Qubes: On 6/29/20 10:03 PM, haaber wrote: On 6/29/20 9:25 PM, Qubes wrote: On 6/29/20 3:42 PM, Qubes wrote: If I try to open a terminal in a dvm, I have tried in both the dvm's that are installed by default (Disposable: fedora-31-dvm and Disposable: whonix-ws-15-dvm) and one that I created on my own by just creating a qube and setting the "Disposable VM Template" flag. When I open a terminal in any of these the new disposable VM gets created, is started, and the terminal opens briefly, but then closes immediately after and the disposable VM gets deleted. Which log should I look at to troubleshoot? Use xterm instead. Gnome terminal does that with dvms because of how it starts. I am not sure I agree. Gnome is the default in Qubes. A vanilla Qubes install works and the default is the Gnome terminal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/3833c0e0-9343-0e1a-9819-21e77f75e91a%40ak47.co.za.
Re: [qubes-users] DisposableVM Closing/Stopping Unexpectedly
Qubes: > On 6/29/20 10:03 PM, haaber wrote: >> On 6/29/20 9:25 PM, Qubes wrote: >>> On 6/29/20 3:42 PM, Qubes wrote: If I try to open a terminal in a dvm, I have tried in both the dvm's that are installed by default (Disposable: fedora-31-dvm and Disposable: whonix-ws-15-dvm) and one that I created on my own by just creating a qube and setting the "Disposable VM Template" flag. When I open a terminal in any of these the new disposable VM gets created, is started, and the terminal opens briefly, but then closes immediately after and the disposable VM gets deleted. Which log should I look at to troubleshoot? Use xterm instead. Gnome terminal does that with dvms because of how it starts. -- - don't top post Mailing list etiquette: - trim quoted reply to only relevant portions - when possible, copy and paste text instead of screenshots -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/089a9775-ef9d-0a29-29af-d3c1835d3969%40danwin1210.me.
Re: [qubes-users] DisposableVM Closing/Stopping Unexpectedly
On 6/29/20 10:03 PM, haaber wrote: On 6/29/20 9:25 PM, Qubes wrote: On 6/29/20 3:42 PM, Qubes wrote: If I try to open a terminal in a dvm, I have tried in both the dvm's that are installed by default (Disposable: fedora-31-dvm and Disposable: whonix-ws-15-dvm) and one that I created on my own by just creating a qube and setting the "Disposable VM Template" flag. When I open a terminal in any of these the new disposable VM gets created, is started, and the terminal opens briefly, but then closes immediately after and the disposable VM gets deleted. Which log should I look at to troubleshoot? If I open anything else in any of the 3 dvm's, for example Firefox or Krusader, it opens. I do experience the same with debian-10 disp-vm's. So I start a firefox first, to open a terminal. After that, I can close firefox again. Very odd. Do you open the terminal from Firefox somehow? Because starting a terminal from your dispvm will create a new disp vm so it should suffer the same consequences. I do notice that right before the terminal briefly appears something makes my notification area seem like it also briefly tried to shuffle because a new icon was about to be shown. As if you put a tick in a box in settings somewhere that shows a new icon in your system tray but you un-tick it again as fast as you can, just it happens faster that what you would be able to click by hand. And I am sure I have done this before. As apposed to doing it before and having the same experience, but not remembering that and now experiencing it as something new. It has always been like that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/425f6990-202d-424c-b236-8dc9a18f4b84%40ak47.co.za.
Re: [qubes-users] DisposableVM Closing/Stopping Unexpectedly
On 6/29/20 9:25 PM, Qubes wrote: On 6/29/20 3:42 PM, Qubes wrote: If I try to open a terminal in a dvm, I have tried in both the dvm's that are installed by default (Disposable: fedora-31-dvm and Disposable: whonix-ws-15-dvm) and one that I created on my own by just creating a qube and setting the "Disposable VM Template" flag. When I open a terminal in any of these the new disposable VM gets created, is started, and the terminal opens briefly, but then closes immediately after and the disposable VM gets deleted. Which log should I look at to troubleshoot? If I open anything else in any of the 3 dvm's, for example Firefox or Krusader, it opens. I do experience the same with debian-10 disp-vm's. So I start a firefox first, to open a terminal. After that, I can close firefox again. Very odd. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/bf4affd1-d8b4-950a-9395-462a8567ceec%40web.de.
Re: [qubes-users] DisposableVM Closing/Stopping Unexpectedly
On 6/29/20 3:42 PM, Qubes wrote: If I try to open a terminal in a dvm, I have tried in both the dvm's that are installed by default (Disposable: fedora-31-dvm and Disposable: whonix-ws-15-dvm) and one that I created on my own by just creating a qube and setting the "Disposable VM Template" flag. When I open a terminal in any of these the new disposable VM gets created, is started, and the terminal opens briefly, but then closes immediately after and the disposable VM gets deleted. Which log should I look at to troubleshoot? If I open anything else in any of the 3 dvm's, for example Firefox or Krusader, it opens. This is rather annoying. If I change for example the fedora-31-dvm qube settings and I remove the option that makes it a disposable VM (on the 'Advanced' tab of the Qube settings page from Qube Manager) I can open a terminal in the VM without any problems. If I shutdown the VM and set the Disposable option again and I try open a terminal in the disposable VM it is the same as before. The new disposable VM gets created (disp), boots, and the terminal is opened but it just appears briefly after which it closes and the disposable VM is stopped and deleted. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/5a0201ff-24d6-2e3b-8a86-0f25ed1b7e65%40ak47.co.za.
[qubes-users] DisposableVM Closing/Stopping Unexpectedly
If I try to open a terminal in a dvm, I have tried in both the dvm's that are installed by default (Disposable: fedora-31-dvm and Disposable: whonix-ws-15-dvm) and one that I created on my own by just creating a qube and setting the "Disposable VM Template" flag. When I open a terminal in any of these the new disposable VM gets created, is started, and the terminal opens briefly, but then closes immediately after and the disposable VM gets deleted. Which log should I look at to troubleshoot? If I open anything else in any of the 3 dvm's, for example Firefox or Krusader, it opens. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/5766295c-0b15-e1ef-47da-b31d3765df3f%40ak47.co.za.
