Re: [qubes-users] Install to Dell T3610, no Intel graphics, VNC install, NVS 310

2018-02-24 Thread taii...@gmx.com

On 02/24/2018 12:55 PM, CMaurice wrote:


Interesting links, thanks. I'm more for blockchain securing that gaming tho.


If you have lots of virtual money on the line I highly recommend a Talos 
2 - you can even buy one in bitcoin - OpenPOWER9 is the most secure high 
performance computing architecture and the T2 is the most secure 
motherboard.


There are a lot of imitators out there (ex: purism) but what Raptor and 
IBM are doing for the hardware freedom movement is legitimate.

On Friday, 23 February 2018 10:50:47 UTC, awokd  wrote:

On Fri, February 23, 2018 10:28 am, CMaurice wrote:

Aye, there's no onboard graphics, there's compatibility with VGA or some
sort of pass through for boot and BIOS, not sure.

But anyway, tried 3.2 and that worked fine! So at least I can learn a bit
about Qubes before having to re-install for 4 final.

Glad you got it running at least. I realized after I sent my last email
your Dell probably isn't a laptop or you wouldn't be asking about video
cards!

If you are going shopping for one, check out the following in case you
ever want to try pass-through some day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IOMMU-supporting_hardware#AMD
http://www.overclock.net/t/1307834/xen-vga-passthrough-compatible-graphics-adapters
https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_VGA_Passthrough_Tested_Adapters#ATI.2FAMD_display_adapters
As always I recommend either a libre hardware/firmware TALOS 2 
(OpenPOWER9, maximum security, features, performance and freedom) or a 
libre firmware KGPE-D16/KCMA-D8 (slow vs the T2 - I use these for x86-64 
VM gaming) for video passthrough.


I have bought a variety of closed source firmware devices before that 
claimed to but didn't actually support IOMMU-GFX, and by getting one of 
these you also get a BMC platform that is actually receiving security 
updates. (the D8/D16 have the facebook OpenBMC, whereas the T2 has the 
IBM OpenBMC which contains more features)


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Re: [qubes-users] Install to Dell T3610, no Intel graphics, VNC install, NVS 310

2018-02-24 Thread CMaurice
Interesting links, thanks. I'm more for blockchain securing that gaming tho.

C.


On Friday, 23 February 2018 10:50:47 UTC, awokd  wrote:
> On Fri, February 23, 2018 10:28 am, CMaurice wrote:
> > Aye, there's no onboard graphics, there's compatibility with VGA or some
> > sort of pass through for boot and BIOS, not sure.
> >
> > But anyway, tried 3.2 and that worked fine! So at least I can learn a bit
> > about Qubes before having to re-install for 4 final.
> 
> Glad you got it running at least. I realized after I sent my last email
> your Dell probably isn't a laptop or you wouldn't be asking about video
> cards!
> 
> If you are going shopping for one, check out the following in case you
> ever want to try pass-through some day.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IOMMU-supporting_hardware#AMD
> http://www.overclock.net/t/1307834/xen-vga-passthrough-compatible-graphics-adapters
> https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_VGA_Passthrough_Tested_Adapters#ATI.2FAMD_display_adapters

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Re: [qubes-users] Install to Dell T3610, no Intel graphics, VNC install, NVS 310

2018-02-23 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Fri, February 23, 2018 10:28 am, CMaurice wrote:
> Aye, there's no onboard graphics, there's compatibility with VGA or some
> sort of pass through for boot and BIOS, not sure.
>
> But anyway, tried 3.2 and that worked fine! So at least I can learn a bit
> about Qubes before having to re-install for 4 final.

Glad you got it running at least. I realized after I sent my last email
your Dell probably isn't a laptop or you wouldn't be asking about video
cards!

If you are going shopping for one, check out the following in case you
ever want to try pass-through some day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IOMMU-supporting_hardware#AMD
http://www.overclock.net/t/1307834/xen-vga-passthrough-compatible-graphics-adapters
https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_VGA_Passthrough_Tested_Adapters#ATI.2FAMD_display_adapters


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Re: [qubes-users] Install to Dell T3610, no Intel graphics, VNC install, NVS 310

2018-02-23 Thread CMaurice
Aye, there's no onboard graphics, there's compatibility with VGA or some sort 
of pass through for boot and BIOS, not sure.

But anyway, tried 3.2 and that worked fine! So at least I can learn a bit about 
Qubes before having to re-install for 4 final.

All the best

On Friday, 23 February 2018 02:24:44 UTC, awokd  wrote:
> On Thu, February 22, 2018 1:39 pm, CMaurice wrote:
> > So, having exhausted other options as far as I could tell, followed the
> > instructions for installing over VNC, which went ok.
> >
> > Legacy boot elected in BIOS for hd and for USB media at install.
> >
> >
> > But on boot without nomodeset and no i915 entry went quickly to a reboot
> >
> >
> > Log nomodeset.out attached.
> >
> >
> > Booting without nomodeset and with modprobe.blacklist=nouveau in place of
> > the i915 entry failed at '[OK] Started Accounts Service' (logs dmesg.txt,
> > Xorg.9.log attached).
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd be grateful for ideas on how to proceed, even perhaps alternate
> > graphics card suggestions.
> 
> Saw in your other email this is Qubes 4.0rc4. Looks like you've tried all
> the basic steps and then some. Does this laptop have a way to use Intel
> integrated graphics? If so, check
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/intel-igfx-troubleshooting/ for the command
> line option to enable that driver.
> Nvidia and Linux generally don't work well together, and I don't have any
> of their hardware so don't have much insight there. AMD RX580s and earlier
> (maybe newer too but not a lot of data) work pretty well with Qubes, as
> does Intel video (usually).

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Re: [qubes-users] Install to Dell T3610, no Intel graphics, VNC install, NVS 310

2018-02-22 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Thu, February 22, 2018 1:39 pm, CMaurice wrote:
> So, having exhausted other options as far as I could tell, followed the
> instructions for installing over VNC, which went ok.
>
> Legacy boot elected in BIOS for hd and for USB media at install.
>
>
> But on boot without nomodeset and no i915 entry went quickly to a reboot
>
>
> Log nomodeset.out attached.
>
>
> Booting without nomodeset and with modprobe.blacklist=nouveau in place of
> the i915 entry failed at '[OK] Started Accounts Service' (logs dmesg.txt,
> Xorg.9.log attached).
>
>
>
> I'd be grateful for ideas on how to proceed, even perhaps alternate
> graphics card suggestions.

Saw in your other email this is Qubes 4.0rc4. Looks like you've tried all
the basic steps and then some. Does this laptop have a way to use Intel
integrated graphics? If so, check
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/intel-igfx-troubleshooting/ for the command
line option to enable that driver.
Nvidia and Linux generally don't work well together, and I don't have any
of their hardware so don't have much insight there. AMD RX580s and earlier
(maybe newer too but not a lot of data) work pretty well with Qubes, as
does Intel video (usually).

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