Re: [qubes-users] replacing fedora template with fedora minimal

2018-04-18 Thread Chris Laprise
On 04/18/2018 01:50 PM, trueriver wrote: hi Chris ... With Debian already being rather minimal I'd suggest using that for most VMs. I myself use Fedora only for sys-firewall (to handle dom0 updates), to test software compatibility, and occasionally to build a template. I tried changing sys-ne

Re: [qubes-users] replacing fedora template with fedora minimal

2018-04-18 Thread trueriver
the doc page at https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/fedora-minimal/ says that in Q R4.0 sudo is not installed in the minimal fedora template, and tells you how to get into a root shell from dom0. That is not quite true - sudo is installed (and therefore dnf refuses to re-install it). but i

Re: [qubes-users] replacing fedora template with fedora minimal

2018-04-18 Thread trueriver
hi Chris > ... > With Debian already being rather minimal I'd suggest using that for most > VMs. I myself use Fedora only for sys-firewall (to handle dom0 updates), > to test software compatibility, and occasionally to build a template. I tried changing sys-net to use debian-9 as its template -

Re: [qubes-users] replacing fedora template with fedora minimal

2018-04-18 Thread Chris Laprise
On 04/18/2018 06:46 AM, river14ap...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, I am currently running a Qubes 4 system with all my AppVMs based on Debian. (btw thanks to the Qubes devs for providing this "out of the box" when I know you prefer Fedora: very democratic :) Fedora was chosen a long time ago beca

Re: [qubes-users] replacing fedora template with fedora minimal

2018-04-18 Thread trueriver
hi again Ivan Thanks for the advice. Same request as before: pls could you delete your side of this conversation (or re-post) as it picked up my email address. My mistake - this is why I need a machine to look after security for me :( River~~ -- You received this message because you are s

Re: [qubes-users] replacing fedora template with fedora minimal

2018-04-18 Thread Ivan Mitev
On 04/18/2018 01:46 PM, river14ap...@gmail.com wrote: > hi all, > > I am currently running a Qubes 4 system with all my AppVMs based on Debian. > (btw thanks to the Qubes devs for providing this "out of the box" when I know > you prefer Fedora: very democratic :) > > Updating the Fedora 26 te

[qubes-users] replacing fedora template with fedora minimal

2018-04-18 Thread river14april
hi all, I am currently running a Qubes 4 system with all my AppVMs based on Debian. (btw thanks to the Qubes devs for providing this "out of the box" when I know you prefer Fedora: very democratic :) Updating the Fedora 26 template takes forever and a lot of it is software I will never use. I