Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-10 Thread raahelps
On Sunday, July 10, 2016 at 2:26:59 AM UTC-4, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > > A lot of people have two GPUs and don't realize it. Even so, its not > > like we are talking about great expense here: Even having access to > > weaker GPUs could make a big difference in Qubes' power and usability. > > >

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-09 Thread raahelps
> A lot of people have two GPUs and don't realize it. Even so, its not > like we are talking about great expense here: Even having access to > weaker GPUs could make a big difference in Qubes' power and usability. > > Projecting our own personal routines on the issue will probably not be > of m

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-08 Thread Chris Laprise
On 07/08/2016 12:27 AM, raahe...@gmail.com wrote: I'm also confused, you say gpus are so insecure and that qubes is not doing enough to isolate them? I don't think that's what I implied. But trying to be concise on a complex subject can leave some people with the wrong impression, so I apolog

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-07 Thread raahelps
I'm also confused, you say gpus are so insecure and that qubes is not doing enough to isolate them? Excuse me for being noob but doesn't qubes not allow most gpu functions to go past dom0. And so you would rather have them in domu domains with similar isolation as the netcard vm (which has no

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-07 Thread Chris Laprise
On 07/07/2016 12:45 PM, Duncan Guthrie wrote: On 7 July 2016 16:53:35 BST, Chris Laprise wrote: On 07/07/2016 10:40 AM, Duncan Guthrie wrote: On 7 July 2016 03:28:48 BST, Chris Laprise wrote: On 07/06/2016 09:42 PM, raahe...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not so adamant about wanting gpu passthro

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-07 Thread Duncan Guthrie
On 7 July 2016 16:53:35 BST, Chris Laprise wrote: >On 07/07/2016 10:40 AM, Duncan Guthrie wrote: >> >> On 7 July 2016 03:28:48 BST, Chris Laprise >wrote: >>> On 07/06/2016 09:42 PM, raahe...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not so adamant about wanting gpu passthrough on qubes, cause >>> imo, gaming

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-07 Thread Chris Laprise
On 07/07/2016 10:40 AM, Duncan Guthrie wrote: On 7 July 2016 03:28:48 BST, Chris Laprise wrote: On 07/06/2016 09:42 PM, raahe...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not so adamant about wanting gpu passthrough on qubes, cause imo, gaming online usually means all security is out the window. Plus I feel a

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-07 Thread Duncan Guthrie
On 7 July 2016 03:28:48 BST, Chris Laprise wrote: >On 07/06/2016 09:42 PM, raahe...@gmail.com wrote: >> I'm not so adamant about wanting gpu passthrough on qubes, cause >imo, gaming online usually means all security is out the window. Plus >I feel as though gpu is much bigger attack surface f

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-06 Thread Chris Laprise
On 07/06/2016 09:42 PM, raahe...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not so adamant about wanting gpu passthrough on qubes, cause imo, gaming online usually means all security is out the window. Plus I feel as though gpu is much bigger attack surface for side channel attacks then net card. I could be wro

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-06 Thread raahelps
I'm not so adamant about wanting gpu passthrough on qubes, cause imo, gaming online usually means all security is out the window. Plus I feel as though gpu is much bigger attack surface for side channel attacks then net card. I could be wrong because I have no clue about low level stuff, but

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-06 Thread Andrew David Wong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-07-06 14:24, juris...@gmail.com wrote: > Em quarta-feira, 6 de julho de 2016 17:28:49 UTC-3, Andrew David > Wong escreveu: On 2016-07-06 12:33, juris...@gmail.com wrote: Em quarta-feira, 6 de julho de 2016 12:37:31 UTC-3, Andrew D

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-06 Thread jurisdan
Em quarta-feira, 6 de julho de 2016 17:28:49 UTC-3, Andrew David Wong escreveu: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 2016-07-06 12:33, juris...@gmail.com wrote: > > Em quarta-feira, 6 de julho de 2016 12:37:31 UTC-3, Andrew David > > Wong escreveu: On 2016-07-05 12:35, juris

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-06 Thread Andrew David Wong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-07-06 12:33, juris...@gmail.com wrote: > Em quarta-feira, 6 de julho de 2016 12:37:31 UTC-3, Andrew David > Wong escreveu: On 2016-07-05 12:35, juris...@gmail.com wrote: Em terça-feira, 5 de julho de 2016 06:54:14 UTC-3, Andrew Dav

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-06 Thread jurisdan
Em quarta-feira, 6 de julho de 2016 12:37:31 UTC-3, Andrew David Wong escreveu: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 2016-07-05 12:35, juris...@gmail.com wrote: > > Em terça-feira, 5 de julho de 2016 06:54:14 UTC-3, Andrew David > > Wong escreveu: On 2016-07-04 22:46, juris.

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-06 Thread Andrew David Wong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-07-05 12:35, juris...@gmail.com wrote: > Em terça-feira, 5 de julho de 2016 06:54:14 UTC-3, Andrew David > Wong escreveu: On 2016-07-04 22:46, juris...@gmail.com wrote: 1) qubes is a system for security and isolation. But when you

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-06 Thread Chris Laprise
On 07/05/2016 03:35 PM, juris...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Andrew. But still... I did not find wich encryption is used by default in qubes documentation. And people still has to do it manually. Plus, when i went to the advanced partitioning, there were lots of bugs. We need to be able to cho

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-05 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 08:47:33AM -0400, Chris Laprise wrote: > > > On 07/05/2016 04:43 AM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > > This was discussed many times, so search the archive for more detailed > > answer. In short: GPU will always be able

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-05 Thread jurisdan
Em terça-feira, 5 de julho de 2016 10:23:07 UTC-3, Niels Kobschätzki escreveu: > > On July 5, 2016 at 7:46 AM juris...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > 2) Qubes face 2 problems nowadays for engaging new users with real security. > > > > a) Qubes is a system for HIGH END computers with lots of R

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-05 Thread jurisdan
Em terça-feira, 5 de julho de 2016 06:54:14 UTC-3, Andrew David Wong escreveu: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 2016-07-04 22:46, juris...@gmail.com wrote: > > 1) qubes is a system for security and isolation. But when you > > install, you have no encryption options. >

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-05 Thread jurisdan
Em terça-feira, 5 de julho de 2016 05:44:00 UTC-3, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki escreveu: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 10:46:52PM -0700, juris...@gmail.com wrote: > > 1) qubes is a system for security and isolation. But when you install, you > >

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-05 Thread jurisdan
Em terça-feira, 5 de julho de 2016 05:38:30 UTC-3, Francesco escreveu: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 2:46 AM, wrote: > 1) qubes is a system for security and isolation. But when you install, you > have no encryption options. > > distros thinks that if a user wants some strong crypto thing, they must

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-05 Thread niels
> On July 5, 2016 at 7:46 AM juris...@gmail.com wrote: > > 2) Qubes face 2 problems nowadays for engaging new users with real security. > > a) Qubes is a system for HIGH END computers with lots of RAM. Usually if for > people that has WINDOWS and GAMES also, a good GPU, and wont waste their

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-05 Thread Chris Laprise
On 07/05/2016 04:43 AM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 10:46:52PM -0700, juris...@gmail.com wrote: 1) qubes is a system for security and isolation. But when you install, you have no encryption options. Full disk encr

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-05 Thread Zrubi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/05/2016 10:38 AM, Franz wrote: > I fully agree with the idea of respecting user needs, but why do > you think gamers are really interested in strong security? Only > because they spend money for expensive computers? It seems a poor > motivati

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-05 Thread Andrew David Wong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-07-04 22:46, juris...@gmail.com wrote: > 1) qubes is a system for security and isolation. But when you > install, you have no encryption options. Qubes uses full disk enryption by default: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/user-faq/#does-qubes-

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-05 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 10:46:52PM -0700, juris...@gmail.com wrote: > 1) qubes is a system for security and isolation. But when you install, you > have no encryption options. Full disk encryption is enabled in default installation option. > 2) Qub

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes top priorities suggestions for me as an user.

2016-07-05 Thread Franz
On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 2:46 AM, wrote: > 1) qubes is a system for security and isolation. But when you install, you > have no encryption options. > distros thinks that if a user wants some strong crypto thing, they must > research themselves and do all manually. We dont even find nothing about >