Re: QWS List Making external keyboard data readable on any synthesizer?
I make the MIDI in QWS and then bring it into MuseScore for printing and handing it to the student. On 4/7/2018 5:54 PM, Lizzie Kazmierski Dunn wrote: Do you use them together, that is, making the MIDI first and then converting it, or do you use them for completely separate projects? On 4/7/18, Richard Wells wrote: Lizzie: I use QWS to create MIDI and MuseScore to make musical staves for my Trumpet and Violin students all the time. On 4/7/2018 4:53 PM, Lizzie Kazmierski Dunn wrote: That's really interesting, but what if, for example, you want one part of your song with strings bowed and another part pizzicato, those are two different sounds on the keyboard. Also, do you know of any notation software that might be as blind accessible and straightforward as QWS is with MIDI? I have MuseScore right now but haven't actually created anything with it. I know this question isn't about QWS itself, but I'm just wondering. Lizzie To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com
Re: QWS List Making external keyboard data readable on any synthesizer?
Do you use them together, that is, making the MIDI first and then converting it, or do you use them for completely separate projects? On 4/7/18, Richard Wells wrote: > Lizzie: I use QWS to create MIDI and MuseScore to make musical staves > for my Trumpet and Violin students all the time. > > > On 4/7/2018 4:53 PM, Lizzie Kazmierski Dunn wrote: >> That's really interesting, but what if, for example, you want one part >> of your song with strings bowed and another part pizzicato, those are >> two different sounds on the keyboard. Also, do you know of any >> notation software that might be as blind accessible and >> straightforward as QWS is with MIDI? I have MuseScore right now but >> haven't actually created anything with it. I know this question isn't >> about QWS itself, but I'm just wondering. >> Lizzie >> To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com >> >> for archived list posts, see >> http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com > > To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com > > for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com > To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com
RE: QWS List Making external keyboard data readable on any synthesizer?
The shift from arco to pizzicato is not something notation programs tend to pick up, though it would make sense for some of this to be automated. But in my experience it's something that has to go in the same way as dynamics, articulations, and expressions. And while we're at it, bowing symbols also require this type of hand entry in every program I've encountered. On the Windows side you've got Sibelius Speaking, which is woefully outdated and limited in what it can do, (as well as costing a lot of money for the Jaws scripts) and Sibelius Access, which uses an older version of Sibelius but has no cost for the scripts and has a lot more flexibility. Some other options, like Lillypad and ABC, also can work, but they're not good at importing MIDI files. Nothing is as easy to use on the notation side as QWS for MIDI stuff. -Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Lizzie Kazmierski Dunn Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 4:53 PM To: QWS list Subject: Re: QWS List Making external keyboard data readable on any synthesizer? That's really interesting, but what if, for example, you want one part of your song with strings bowed and another part pizzicato, those are two different sounds on the keyboard. Also, do you know of any notation software that might be as blind accessible and straightforward as QWS is with MIDI? I have MuseScore right now but haven't actually created anything with it. I know this question isn't about QWS itself, but I'm just wondering. Lizzie To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com
Re: QWS List Making external keyboard data readable on any synthesizer?
Lizzie: I use QWS to create MIDI and MuseScore to make musical staves for my Trumpet and Violin students all the time. On 4/7/2018 4:53 PM, Lizzie Kazmierski Dunn wrote: That's really interesting, but what if, for example, you want one part of your song with strings bowed and another part pizzicato, those are two different sounds on the keyboard. Also, do you know of any notation software that might be as blind accessible and straightforward as QWS is with MIDI? I have MuseScore right now but haven't actually created anything with it. I know this question isn't about QWS itself, but I'm just wondering. Lizzie To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com
Re: QWS List Making external keyboard data readable on any synthesizer?
That's really interesting, but what if, for example, you want one part of your song with strings bowed and another part pizzicato, those are two different sounds on the keyboard. Also, do you know of any notation software that might be as blind accessible and straightforward as QWS is with MIDI? I have MuseScore right now but haven't actually created anything with it. I know this question isn't about QWS itself, but I'm just wondering. Lizzie To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com
RE: QWS List Making external keyboard data readable on any synthesizer?
Sometimes. Most notation programs prefer port 1. Use standard General MIDI program numbers and they should get the stave titles right, though they often will default to your track title. (I know Finale does this and has dating back to Finale 3.0, and I'm pretty sure Sibelius does as well) Remember that MIDI and standard mensural notation are different musical languages, and in some cases there is no translation between the two -- MIDI doesn't have key signatures while ports mean nothing on a score. You never hear a conductor say, "Violins on port 2, play the passage between measures 33-64 again." And there is no program change command in mensural notation. They're useful, but only in playback in the notation software, not in the ensemble. (Actually, that's not exactly true, as you sometimes encounter program changes in keyboard parts, but not for acoustic instruments) -Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Lizzie Kazmierski Dunn Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 9:52 AM To: QWS list Subject: Re: QWS List Making external keyboard data readable on any synthesizer? Hi. Thank you for all of this advice. I'm usually very straightforward with this stuff, and if the instrumentalists need to change something themselves they can indicate that. What I meant was, when you record with an external keyboard your ports are whatever, but how do you make it so it doesn't always have to play on that keyboard, for example, so it can play on the Microsoft synth or the synths in notation programs? After you save your music do you have to change the track properties so they can be played anywhere? Thanks, Lizzie To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com
Re: QWS List Making external keyboard data readable on any synthesizer?
Hi. Thank you for all of this advice. I'm usually very straightforward with this stuff, and if the instrumentalists need to change something themselves they can indicate that. What I meant was, when you record with an external keyboard your ports are whatever, but how do you make it so it doesn't always have to play on that keyboard, for example, so it can play on the Microsoft synth or the synths in notation programs? After you save your music do you have to change the track properties so they can be played anywhere? Thanks, Lizzie To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com
RE: QWS List Making external keyboard data readable on any synthesizer?
Your safest bet is to use a GM, GM2, GS, or XG instrument layout. These translate well to other stuff. If you're going to build your MIDI in any sequencer and port it in to notation software you'll want to make sure you do all the processing on the sequencer side, otherwise you might get some strange note and rest values. Record slow, with the metronome on, quantize 100% and also do the same with your note durations, and make sure you're playing in concert pitch with no octave shifting for the notation to have as much as possible done for it going in. That'll save you loads of frustration with the import. Some information won't be translated, and notation programs tend to be fiddly about articulations and dynamics, so you'll either want to take care of those yourself (if you're using Sibelius Access or something else accessible) or get a sighted individual to mark up your notation with the music you want. (hint -- notes aren't the music, they're what the music refers to) You'll want to make sure to delete the MIDI layer when you get things imported, otherwise you won't hear exactly what the notation software is playing. (Easy to miss things like that) I've done a lot of this in the past. Doing the clean-up before the import into the notation program can save hours of work. -Original Message- From: mai...@andrelouis.com [mailto:mai...@andrelouis.com] On Behalf Of Lizzie Kazmierski Dunn Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 8:05 PM To: QWS list Subject: QWS List Making external keyboard data readable on any synthesizer? Hello. I am creating a project for Music Theory where we're composing for three instrumentalists, and a printed score is required. I thought I'd record the MIDI data first in QWS and then open it in a notation software to convert it. My question is: I will be playing the music on my keyboard, but after I've recorded all the tracks, how do I convert the properties so they can be read and played by any device, not just my own keyboard with its own unique sounds (these will be conventional instrument sounds but every keyboard is slightly different). I'd like to know how to do this so I can make it readable on any synth and MIDI related software. Please tell me what I should do about this. Thanks, Lizzie To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com To unsubscribe or change list options, see http://lists.andrelouis.com for archived list posts, see http://www.mail-archive.com/qws@andrelouis.com
