Re: [Radiant] Speed of Radiant on Dreamhost: Follow up
Original poster here. Dreamhost is trying to be helpful. I'm beginning to believe that my installation is the problem. I'm posting this to correct the record. I'll try to come back and update when I sort out the problem. It has something to do with how I'm installing Radiant and Gallery I think. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Speed-of-Radiant-on-Dreamhost-tp6729p22417624.html Sent from the Radiant - User (New) mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Speed of Radiant on Dreamhost: Follow up
I second this opinion... Joyent uses Solaris or Linux (I way prefer Solaris), and xen, zfs, etc. They cater to the client very well. Excellent group of folks. Knowledgeable people too - course they are not there to hold your hand with radient ;) good luck, whatever you choose. Steven Southard wrote: I've had good luck with Joyent. I've found there servers snappy. It's also cheap enough and I haven't had any problems running rails apps there. -- Steven On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:43 PM, MtnBiker wrote: Dreamhost responded that they had had problems, but thought they'd fixed them. 50 seconds to load my site. And I had to refile my support request. I didn't see any reply or follow-up. Time to move on. I'll be looking at recommendations for a good Rail host. This will be for a very low hits personal sites. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Speed-of-Radiant-on-Dreamhost-tp6729p22321355.html Sent from the Radiant - User (New) mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Speed of Radiant on Dreamhost: Follow up
I've had good luck with Joyent. I've found there servers snappy. It's also cheap enough and I haven't had any problems running rails apps there. -- Steven On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:43 PM, MtnBiker wrote: Dreamhost responded that they had had problems, but thought they'd fixed them. 50 seconds to load my site. And I had to refile my support request. I didn't see any reply or follow-up. Time to move on. I'll be looking at recommendations for a good Rail host. This will be for a very low hits personal sites. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Speed-of-Radiant-on-Dreamhost-tp6729p22321355.html Sent from the Radiant - User (New) mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Speed of Radiant on Dreamhost: Follow up
Dreamhost responded that they had had problems, but thought they'd fixed them. 50 seconds to load my site. And I had to refile my support request. I didn't see any reply or follow-up. Time to move on. I'll be looking at recommendations for a good Rail host. This will be for a very low hits personal sites. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Speed-of-Radiant-on-Dreamhost-tp6729p22321355.html Sent from the Radiant - User (New) mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Speed of Radiant on Dreamhost
Thanks Sean and others for your help. I'll write Dreamhost. I'd, of course, not rather starting over at another host; but if necessary so be it. Answers and comments on other responses: Shared account. The tickler approach might work, but I might do more harm than good as I'm rather inexperienced. PS. Google needs a little smartening. I'm seeing an ad for radiant heating. Besides I live in southern California. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Speed-of-Radiant-on-Dreamhost-tp6729p22301967.html Sent from the Radiant - User (New) mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Speed of Radiant on Dreamhost
MtnBiker said the following on 02/28/2009 09:51 AM: > Radiant is slow for me on Dreamhost. Can take up to 3 minutes to load. Never > less than one minute if hasn't been loaded a while. A straight HTML page > takes seconds. > > Is this normal or have I done something wrong? Possibly. But I suspect not. I have half a dozen sites Dreamhosted and delays like that were never a problem. I have had them running from sqlite3 rather than mysql, with and without Passenger. I've had other problems but never unacceptable delays. > I've different installations of Radiant, with and without embedded Rails. > Slow either way. After initial loading, reloading can be in seconds, > although slower than HTML. This site will not generally get much use. It > seems that once the site has been loaded, it loads faster. If this is shared hosting then you may be fighting a very basic problem with multi-user machines. You've been swapped out and the scheduler has to swap you back in, and all the priority issues that go with that. If you have a virtual machine there is the analogue of that at the virtual layer. Yes, I know tests show yamma yamma, but in reality the dominant thing is that its the first 'wake-up' that is critical. Its an operating system scheduling issue. > I don't think > it's caching on my machine that's doing it, because it's a small page with > one picture. But I'm not an expert, and haven't done any testing getting rid > of the cache, etc. The main problem is that if a stranger loads it, they'll > likely think something is wrong and give up and that's not acceptable. I'd suggest that you have some kind of CRON-scheduled 'tickler' that does just enough to keep a bit of your process alive and awake but doesn't produce such a heavy load that it impacts others. -- Objects in calendar are closer than they appear. -- Jim Duncan ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Speed of Radiant on Dreamhost
This is likely related to Dreamhost's Passenger settings. In order to conserve memory, they likely kill off idle Passenger processes quickly. This means that if your site is not accessed frequently, it will have to start up a new process almost every time. This is comparable to starting up a Mongrel from scratch - it takes several seconds. My suggestion - ask if Dreamhost can fix this or go with a different host. Sean MtnBiker wrote: Radiant is slow for me on Dreamhost. Can take up to 3 minutes to load. Never less than one minute if hasn't been loaded a while. A straight HTML page takes seconds. Is this normal or have I done something wrong? I've different installations of Radiant, with and without embedded Rails. Slow either way. After initial loading, reloading can be in seconds, although slower than HTML. This site will not generally get much use. It seems that once the site has been loaded, it loads faster. I don't think it's caching on my machine that's doing it, because it's a small page with one picture. But I'm not an expert, and haven't done any testing getting rid of the cache, etc. The main problem is that if a stranger loads it, they'll likely think something is wrong and give up and that's not acceptable. One of the sites: http://test.keeptherubbersidedown.com/ ___ Radiant mailing list Post: Radiant@radiantcms.org Search: http://radiantcms.org/mailing-list/search/ Site: http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
