Excellent write up and pics! It's nice to get details about the Willapa
Hills Trail. Thanks for sharing.
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To add to what Andy said - I also found our 2nd-day's adventure to be the
best ride in years! It always helps to endo into the snow on your Hilsen
at speed, pinch flat the rear (of course!) Cypres while slamming down some
rocky, rutted, melt-draining dirt trails waiting for arm-pump to set in,
Thank you for the encouraging comments.
A poster would be nice indeed. The handlebar should be at 100% size. It may
happen and I sure will keep you posted.
An all-interactive on-line barstem selector with semi-transparent overlay
would be nice too. I can't code to save my life though. I'm all up
...poor mannered me left the above message sans signature.
-best,
Olivier in SF
Here are some stems to make up for
it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/8925887660/
On Monday, June 3, 2013 11:52:22 PM UTC-7, oli c wrote:
Thank you for the encouraging comments.
A poster would be nice
Fantastic! Just ordered three.
The other Seattle Brian.
On Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:30:30 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote:
OK...it took me a bit to learn the ropes of setting up and running a
store...but I think it's a go.
Some additional items have been added and a concept tee if interest is
The assembled group was a heavily aluminum/CF, low drops, brifter crowd (my
old roommate was there in that kit) so an attractive bike like Jack's stood
out for attention.
Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh
On Monday, June 3, 2013 12:31:07 PM UTC-4, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
I like the guy in the
That's me actually. But I got a lot of cool bike comments.
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Remins me Andy, Pack Rat is having their 40th anniversary this year.
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When I began riding my '93 XO-2 off road in earnest I recall thinking how
much more wildlife I saw, if not approached before detection, than I had on
my MTB and attributed it to the inherent buzz produced by tires rolling on
the knobs. It amazed me how much wildlife I had to stop for. I never
My buddy had one come right up to him that way-local farmer had been
feeding it since it was a pup and started coming around to eat from his
yard feeder.
Here's a couple of mine.
On the Saluki
[image: Inline image 1]
On the Heron
[image: Inline image 2]
In front of the Rambouillet:
[image:
It's the fox hops and bear bumps that are the most exciting. Does give new
meaning to bunny hop though. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 4:52:24 AM UTC-6, ascpgh wrote:
When I began riding my '93 XO-2 off road in earnest I recall thinking how
much more wildlife I saw, if
True, the Little Big Bens don't have side-knobs, only the even square-block
tread... I still think it might be a good tire for me, but, I'm still
looking for something w/ side-knobs, too. And I agree, the Sammy Slick
does seem narrower than what I want, too.
I like the MSO, but it may be
Pics should be public now
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Hi, sorry about that. I thought it was 650B. That's what I need. I will
undo the Paypal payment, somehow.
Thanks,
Fred
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:57 PM, jimmy johnsen moho1...@yahoo.com wrote:
Yavo. The wheel set is 700c not 650b. Do you still want it
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Wow - looks like an RBW catalog photo shoot! I clearly missed a great time
- hope I can make the next one. Thanks for sharing all the pics.
Alex
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Last week the turtles started their migration from the ponds and lakes to
lay their eggs. I saw this little beauty crossing a bike trail in the
middle of town.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bPr6l4tHATg/UaARVndgq-I/EEQ/EyIOGc1ZabA/s320/IMG_0442.JPG
Brian, fantastic job on the photos. Great stuff here. Oh to pedal through
Gifford PInchot this summer! I can't say enough good things about rambling
through Gifford Pinchot. And as stellar as your images are and the ride
was, you guys just scratched the surface. If you can return later in the
Robert, haven't checked the links yet but I know I'm in for a treat. I've
been checking out your photos and ride reports for years and they're always
top notch.
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Supremes are sold.
$55 for the Winters! Someone take these, great deal, moving to a climate
where I have no use for them, otherwise would never sell.
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Did you buy that Canti-Rom that was recently FS in the East Bay? I don't
know their max fit. Mine can just fit 42mm, but that is with ridiculous
close clearances. 40mm is much better. The MSO looks like it maxes out
right around 39, so could just fit for both of us!
Cheers,
David
On Tue, Jun
I expected a blood and tears. You cheated me Andy! All I see are awesome
bikes in incredible scenery. Look good otherwise but next time there needs
to be some fighting.
On Sunday, June 2, 2013 11:27:23 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
Five of us met at a campground in the shadow of Mt
Manny, sounds like an awesome start to summer. I can't imagine you could
have packed any more into the weekend. Looking forward to the rest of your
summertime shenanigans.
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Don't know if I'm helping or hindering here, but Continental has a 42 mm
'cyclocross' tyre with some side knobs.
Herehttp://www.conti-online.com/www/bicycle_de_en/themes/cross/cyclocross_speed_en.html.
Don't know anything about them.
I'm also checking out tyres in this category size range
I used this Continental tire on my Hilsen for the recent Riv Rally East in the
Delaware Water Gap - fits nicely (but no fenders), and rides very well.
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my buddy has one of the Fat Tire Ale Schwinns, won from a tab lottery at
Flying Sauce Pub.
On Saturday, June 1, 2013 2:59:13 PM UTC-5, Kellie Stapleton wrote:
Not a Rivendell, but still cool..
My B-17 special is about 15 years old and is still in great shape. When I
got it, I spread Sno-seal top and bottom and took a hair dryer to it for a
few minutes. I rubbed the melted snow seal in until my hand cramped. I did
that three times. After months of riding I was getting a little
I saw this thread and then heard a black bear has been seen wandering
around my suburban New Jersey town. Got my camera and bike and then found
out it was captured and whisked away. Another near miss after not winning
the frame lottery.
Norman
On Sunday, June 2, 2013 2:17:00 PM UTC-4,
I've decided to try and see if there is any interest in my 60cm Sam. It's
one of the blue beauties that I've had for a year. Frame bought straight
from Riv. I built it up myself. It's a bit of an ecclectic build with the
vintage Suntour Mountech derailleurs, but it all works sweet. Chris King
David,
Not that one; Alex in St Paul posted his for sale here as a complete, but
I talked him into just the frame (and a few other bits).
(http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2007/cc406-andrewkarre1107.html)
The official quoted size is 38; but that's usually on the conservative
side, so, I'm
I've seen reports of the MSO measuring ~40mm on wider rims like 24mm Dyad.
On the Canti-roms with the right kind of brake pads ( the short ones that
swing out of the way) you could probably fit the MSO's on the fork. I was
thinking about adding canti's on my Ram for reason, but sold it to fund
HA! At my age (51) and with the kind of mileage I do lately (not much), I
would never live to see the day it got soft enough to be considered
rideable. ;-)
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:16:52 AM UTC-7, clayton wrote:
My B-17 special is about 15 years old and is still in great shape. When I
got
Sweet build - nice levers ;-)
On Monday, June 3, 2013 9:38:02 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote:
Congrats on the new bike Michael. It looks great.
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That's funny. I haven't read O'Grady for years. Note though that O'Grady
was producing similar snide cartoons way back in the steel era.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
Thought the group might enjoy this. Mud Stud obviously doesn't work at RBW
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What are did you replace it with? Photos? Pleeze?
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:23 AM, William R. wroma...@optonline.net wrote:
I've decided to try and see if there is any interest in my 60cm Sam. It's
one of the blue beauties that I've had for a year. Frame bought straight
from Riv. I built it up
We all won:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157633914121553/
And some short videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/muffaleta
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I am a female, 5'6, 84 PBH with an Yves, fist full of seat post showing,
9cm nitto technomic stem. The albatross bars feel a little too close -
angled them down and lowered them, so the stem is level with the saddle,
which helped.
I thought a longer stem (11 or 12) would be better - but the
Absolutely beautiful!
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Excuse the crosspost. I posted this on iBob and it got buried under posts.
Figured folks on this list might be interested.
FS: Nitto Noodles.
42cm.
Purchased new.
Mounted in stem, brake levers, cloth tape installed, rode 15 miles. Then
removed from bike.
Wine corks installed as bar plugs.
That's a truly wonderful set of photographs. Thanks for the treat!
Dave in Kansas
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 2:00:26 AM UTC-5, oli c wrote:
...poor mannered me left the above message sans signature.
-best,
Olivier in SF
Here are some stems to make up for it:
Tip O' The Mouse to Master-of-The-Useful-Hack JimG, who posted this link:
http://www.archive.org/stream/bicyclerepairing00burr#page/n7/mode/2up
Bicycle Repairing - A Manual Compiled From Articles in THE IRON AGE - 1896
Can't begin to pick a favorite section, but love the fact that the shop
You can just chop an inch off the end of the Albas if that's the part that
feels too close. My wife is about your height, maybe a bit taller and likes
the bars higher but with less comeback so she uses a Northroad bar on her
MB2. 9cm dirt drop stem.
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:28 PM, KLA
KLA (what is you actual name?): good questions. It's not always true that a
greater reach means more weight on your arms and hands. If your saddle is
correctly positioned (http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.htm), your
back muscles will to one extent or another act as a cantilever to hold your
My wife is 5'2 and runs a 52cm Yves with no seatpost showing. She runs an
Albatross bar with a 12cm stem.
On Monday, June 3, 2013 12:28:24 PM UTC-7, KLA wrote:
I am a female, 5'6, 84 PBH with an Yves, fist full of seat post showing,
9cm nitto technomic stem. The albatross bars feel a
Greetings All,
Wanted to update you all about how our plans are proceeding. We're planning
to take the train up to Seattle and ride to Anacortes via this route-
http://goo.gl/maps/18zd5. From there we'll ferry and ride around the
various San Juan islands for a few days. Departing from the
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R7ZLsOeh0XA/Ua43aJJ5QDI/AF0/Ccqzo6eSzow/s1600/IMG_0043.JPG
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really cool, but I have to change my display to gray levels to read it -
the yellow gets a bit old.
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 1:13:32 PM UTC-5, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
Tip O' The Mouse to Master-of-The-Useful-Hack JimG, who posted this link:
I think it's possible to use Proofide too often - there are some posts on
the Brooks England website that attest to that. I better like Obenauf's
that Riv sells. It can go on real thin and is a better wax.
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:39:15 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
HA! At my age (51)
*Longer stems are usually for men*. Ahahahahaah !As if *that* has
anything to do with your choice lol. I would try another shop, one
that can let you borrow or try out some different length stems before
buying them. Or like me , I bought an inexpensive VO threadless stem
adapter
Wow! Thanks for this totally cool resource. I look forward to delving
in. I've already found a Bosco on page 116. And I love The Iron Age
moniker. Seems fertile ground for a Rivvish bike patch/pin series!
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On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:00:40 AM UTC-5, Dave Redmon wrote:
That's a truly wonderful set of photographs. Thanks for the treat!
No kidding! Great set of bike, lug, bar, and in-situ photos (not to
mention dang helpful bar comparisons). Thank you!
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Manny, thank you so much for your photography. It lifts my spirits, brings
back memories, inspires my sense of adventure and physicality, and shares
the beauty you experience. Just a joy to click on your links every time.
cheers, RCW
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Hey Manny. I just wanted to ask where in the Headlands you camped? I'm
trying to do a quick overnight this Friday, but I know Hawk, Haypress, and
Bicentennial in the Headlands are all booked. Did you reserve a site or do
you have a stealth spot you go to?
Thanks!
Lee
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at
Patrick,
That is quite the impressive load! Well done.
I use the large Saddlesack and load outside the store. I would be too stressed
trying to load while checking out, all with impatient folks behind me. I take
my items outside to my bike, analyze what I have, and load accordingly.
Similar
Anyone measured them?
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I can only imagine that they're saying a longer stem will put more weight on
your hands because it will stretch out your reach and get you leaning on the
bars (weight of upper body on hands). Since you have long arms, found the a-bar
comes too far back, and like to be a little more stretched
They say you should go to a wider saddle for upright riding than a B17, but
I have a sprung Brooks Flyer I'd like to keep using.
Anyone doing it? How does the saddle work for upright riding? Wide enough
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We have several of those guys on the left in our local club. One of my
touring buds refers to them as large diameter people on skinny tires.
dougP
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:53:07 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
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There is another thread on here from a year ago that didn't answer the
question.
The stock builds come with steel. I am sure they are fantastic.
I have read a complaint about the aluminum version being too flexy.
Any votes here? What are you using and how does it feel to you?
Thanks for the
I want to thank everybody for the hospitality and good times in Minnesota.
It was a pleasure to meet and ride with you all and I am looking forward
to another opportunity. I had fun, until I had to drive back through
Chicago, but that reminds of how the poor people live-the poor people who
When I see bulky, sweaty folk in tight lycra, I think more of large
diameters in skinny tubes. But hell, they are riding, leavem alone.
Patrick Moore,
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:53 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
One of my touring buds refers to them as large diameter people on skinny
tires.
I should have noted I use a 0 degree 13cm. stem on my 60cm Bombadil
even with it's long-ish top tube. If the TT was more than a cm. shorter ,
I'd use a 14cm.
My bars are a couple of inches above the middle of the saddle. But with
the Albas I can literally ride with my elbows on top of
Few more items no longer being used for sale.
1. Campy Centaur triple crankset. 50-40-30 chainrings . 30T is brand new
the two other rings are in great shape. Comes with Campy 111mm Square taper
bottom bracket that were used together. $110 shipped in Cont US.
2. Paul touring cantilevers with
Michael,
I have steel alba bars on two bikes and like them a great deal. I notice no
flex when I stand to pedal. I am about 5'10 and 170lbs. I have no experience
with the aluminum, sorry.
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Steel for me :) Given a choice of Al or steel bars, I'll take the steel
most every time. I ride out of the saddle alot, up and down ye hills of
yore. I pull and push on them hard I suppose they flex if measured in
a lab but I don't notice it at all. 3 cheers 4 steel :)
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Such crazy fun happening. Ive ridden in a lot of places on all types of
terrain. I can't say that I had more fun than when riding the shell ridge /
diablo area. Seeing these pictures is damn near unbearable. Especially
while waiting on my bike to come back from paint.
In the mean time I took
I measure about 4 1/4 -4 3/8 or about 110mm.
David
On Jun 4, 2013, at 5:29 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone measured them?
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Sanity check-
SimpleOne, after nearly leaving the stable, has taken over as my main ride
since I took the Saluki's wheel set to do a conversion on the lady's bike. I
currently have the Resist 700x45s on there and love it. However there's also
some trails out in the Wissahickon I'd like to ride
I have the AL Albas on my Sam with no issues, but I'd hardly say I stress them'
Pete in CT
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Michael,
I've been using one on my commuter w/upright bars for 4 years now with no
issues whatsoever. I'm a bit less than bolt upright with hands on the
grips, but still pretty upright. Since you've already got the Flyer, just
give it a try!
Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL
On Tuesday,
I was using steel but am switching over to Aluminum. Mostly looking to
lighten' up my every day all day bike and this is one of the few ways I can
do it! I think the difference is mainly weight and price unless you ride
hard on trails and what not. That sort of riding is reserved for my
Paul brakes are sold pending payment.
thx
~mike
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 4:00:30 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:
Few more items no longer being used for sale.
1. Campy Centaur triple crankset. 50-40-30 chainrings . 30T is brand new
the two other rings are in great shape. Comes with Campy
Depends to some extent on what you mean by upright. I've been riding a
Surly 1x1 for over 6 years now with a Flyer saddle and about as short a
reach threadless stem as they make with no issues. 'Course, the older
1x1's had a frame with a longer TT and therefore overall reach than the
current
forgot to note that crankset has 175mm arms
~mike
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Steel Albas here. I ride a lot of single track and a few times have
absorbed enough front impact to drop the tilt of my bars (after which I
read just them and keep moving, mindful to see the unseen a bit better next
time. Grin.). No idea how the aluminum would compare, but I suspect I would
As a Riv-riding well-stuffed kielbassa, I have to agree with Mr. Moore; please
leave them (US!) alone?
Marc ( I Love Beer) Schwartz
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Sounds perfect, what's the problem? :-)
Cheers,
David
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:22 PM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote:
Sanity check-
SimpleOne, after nearly leaving the stable, has taken over as my main ride
since I took the Saluki's wheel set to do a conversion on the lady's bike.
I
I don't have a strategy. I use the large Saddlesack, have them put the
groceries in bags (now we have to supply our own) and just shove
everything in. The load you describe (gallon milk, 2 bottles wine,
maxipads, blueberries) would fit easily with no tetris problem. If I
have a lot more than that,
Woke up today knowing there would be a lot of LOUD construction due to all the
heavy equipment that had appeared in town over the weekend. My plan was to
escape to Rampart Reservoir which was partly burned by the Waldo Canyon fire
last year. But I really didn't want to spend another day away
Retro-grouch field manual.
Cheers,
David
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
Wow! Thanks for this totally cool resource. I look forward to delving
in. I've already found a Bosco on page 116. And I love The Iron Age
moniker. Seems fertile ground for a Rivvish
That's a good one as well! The East Bay one caught my attention for a
minute or two!!!
Tom Thomas: Those 42mm Contis look intriguing! Another option out there!
Cheers,
David
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:
David,
Not that one; Alex in St Paul posted
Yes. You're nuts. But as David points out, what's the problem? Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 5:22:56 PM UTC-6, justin...@gmail.com wrote:
Sanity check-
SimpleOne, after nearly leaving the stable, has taken over as my main ride
since I took the Saluki's wheel set to do
Since everyone's answer is different and it's no cost to try what you own,
may I humbly suggest you are in the best position to expertly answer your
dilemma? Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 3:35:39 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
They say you should go to a wider saddle for
Patrick,
Glad you were able to enjoy such a wonderful day. The photos are beautiful.
I bike for many reasons, but one reason is rooted in my childhood. On
Saturdays, I would accompany my dad on a leisurely bike ride around our town
that included breakfast at a local diner. Seeing your
Family and bicycling: for 6 months or so after my divorce in 2003, I'd
often have my then-2-year-old-daughter Catie for the weekend, and Saturdays
evolved to a pattern of breakfast, then riding out on the Raleigh Technium
fixie pulling Catie in the trailer. We'd cruise through the nearby shopping
Bolt upright on a Flyer here, with the Bosco Bullmooses on my QB. So far,
it's awesome. I say give it a go and only change if there's a problem.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/85709120@N07/8714991825/
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 2:35:39 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:
They say you should go to a
There are no words to describe how awesome this is. Also - look at 'another
method of holding a bicycle' The figure is on page 30 - the description on
page 31.
-sv
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:46 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
Retro-grouch field manual.
Cheers,
David
On
Riv used to carry the Conti Speed king in 42. Measured around 38 mm. The
Conti Cross ride looks a bit beefier to me.
Vee Rubber also carries a few 700x40's... the X-C-X and Rail and maybe
others.
~mike
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Looked like some sweet riding. Beautiful.
Thanks for sharing.
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I ride upright on B17 saddles on my Hunqapillar and Betty with no issues. I
actually find the width perfect for upright riding. I once tried a wider
one and didn't like it as the wings hit my thighs. Then again, I haven't
tried that in a long time and have a new never used B67 (unsprung) that I
One way to assess if you'd like a longer stem is to move your brake levers
and grips (or remove the grips for a while) forward to pretend the bar is
further away and see if you prefer that. If your grips are glued it might
mean destroying them and then getting a new set once you've decided, which
...torn between two Albas...feelin' like a fool...
Wonder if the chro mo, or alu will last longer?
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So sounds like the Flyer is great in upright use.
I figured I would know when I tried, but was hastily curious to find out. I
don't have the Albas yet. Hope to order soon.
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@Rene,
I used to have a cheapy B67-ish shaped saddle on a Raleigh, and it was hard
sometimes to pedal downward as I found the saddle blocked my thighs.
Hopefully the Flyer will be great.
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Ahh. I get it now. The Albas were the missing piece. Your questions
makes more sense to my sardonic brain now. Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:40:07 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
So sounds like the Flyer is great in upright use.
I figured I would know when I tried,
Thank you David for your time and help. I appreciate it.
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I had the albas in aluminum. I am not a small guy and hammered on them
sometimes, never felt any discernible flex. Mind you this wasn't down hill
or single track but they were nice and light and finish was amazing.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
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My bro-in-law has these same two (looks alike anyway) red and green
Raleighs and I was over at his place a while back and took pics.
RBW should have Sugino make some RBW logo cranks like Raleigh had their
logo on their bikes back then.
Neat bikes can be seen here. Enjoy:
...also matching painted fenders like the Rahleighs would be the
bomb-adilicious...
...dig the short stems on those british bikes...British fit idea?
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RBW should have Sugino make some RBW logo cranks like Raleigh had their
logo on their bikes back then
One of the upshots of building 10s of thousands of bikes a year, the
downside of course is that they were made with lets say, less than the best
attention to details.
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at
My back seems to like bars no higher than saddle height.
But sometimes I want to sit higher, so I was thinking that maybe my back
would be ok with *totally* upright. Maybe it is the between that the back
doesn't like.
On the short test rides I have had with my wife's upright bike, my
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