[RBW] Re: Mt Diablo Sunday ride

2014-02-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
To the young anyone over 35 is old. Grin. The poor dears don't have enough experience yet to know aerobic capacity doesn't peak till older than they are and gas a very long half life. Double grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Sexy new touring tire? Schwalbe Almotion

2014-02-18 Thread Ron Mc
I keep saying this over and over - heavy has nothing to do with roll - only with acceleration. But agree Schwalbe tires are generally heavy and 600-900 grams (depending on size) is a lot. On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:45:10 AM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Seems pretty

Re: [RBW] Re: Sexy new touring tire? Schwalbe Almotion

2014-02-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/18/2014 08:45 AM, Ron Mc wrote: I keep saying this over and over - heavy has nothing to do with roll - only with acceleration. But agree Schwalbe tires are generally heavy and 600-900 grams (depending on size) is a lot. No, there's both weight and rolling resistance. However,

Re: [RBW] Re: Sexy new touring tire? Schwalbe Almotion

2014-02-18 Thread Ron Mc
I just bought a pair of Challenge Strada Bianca - seems appropriate for our white caliche ranch roads. These are only 33mm, and run at 50-55 psi. But they are also 4 ply tires, and weigh 360g. On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:51:57 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 02/18/2014 08:45 AM,

RE: [RBW] Re: Reorganizing Betty

2014-02-18 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Also, I think it was the ‘fiend who set up a Flickr group called “Rivendogs”, IIRC. Expansion to “Rivenpets” would serve your purpose? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Herbitter Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 5:48 PM To:

Re: [RBW] Re: Sexy new touring tire? Schwalbe Almotion

2014-02-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/18/2014 09:36 AM, Ron Mc wrote: I just bought a pair of Challenge Strada Bianca - seems appropriate for our white caliche ranch roads. These are only 33mm, and run at 50-55 psi. But they are also 4 ply tires, and weigh 360g. Let us know how they work out. A friend of mine got a pair,

Re: [RBW] Re: Sexy new touring tire? Schwalbe Almotion

2014-02-18 Thread Ron Mc
we're at the point of hijacking the thread now, but I'm running Challenge clinchers on 3 bikes and may add a 4th. Easy to mount if you do it right. The key to mounting them is starting just beside the valve stem and going around continuously, returning to the stem - you stretch the bead last

Re: [RBW] Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Shaun Meehan
Agreed. And we might as well start referring to the traditional diameter tubung as undersized tubing. Shaun Meehan On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: It's been 20+ years since oversized tubing became the usual size of tubing. Almost

Re: [RBW] FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1400 shipped - bump and price drop

2014-02-18 Thread Glen
To further cloud your decision. I'm a long legged six-footer and ride a 64cm Ram. I wouldn't want it any smaller. On Monday, February 17, 2014 11:04:16 PM UTC-7, debra banks wrote: Thanks Leslie for this. My guy is a long-legged 6 footer. He has been riding an old Marin mtn bike with flat

[RBW] Re: FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1400 shipped - bump and price drop

2014-02-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
Call Rivendell with his PBH and talk it over with them. They'll steer you right. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, February 10, 2014 12:08:30 PM UTC-7, danmc wrote: Some tire kicking but nothing solid so far. $50 off for local SF Bay Area sales. Open to parting out if someone is

Re: [RBW] Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Almost 10 years ago, I bought a 1991 Waterford Paramount frame. Besides the sexy pearly metallic red color, the most noticeable thing about the frame was its True Temper OS stickers. OS was for over-sized. I didn't understand at the time why they made such a big deal out of the OS tubes when

[RBW] Re: Sexy new touring tire? Schwalbe Almotion

2014-02-18 Thread Mike On A Bike
Yeah, I'm strongly considering Marathon 40's actually. I had them when I first got my Sam Hillborne (the bike these would be for) and did not think that my 35's were significantly faster, I just found 35's for much cheaper when I had to replace a cut tire. It's hard to beat the Mara Supremes.

[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto stem shifter thing/Paul singlemaker thing

2014-02-18 Thread Clayton
Patrick, I'm interested in the wood chippers. Are the wood chippers 25.4s? How much dinero? Chip, chip chip... Clay On Monday, February 17, 2014 9:23:45 AM UTC-8, Patrick Shea wrote: Howdy All: I'm moving and must get my parts/frames collection to almost zero. Nitto 1 stem shifter adaptor

Re: [RBW] Re: Pics from inside Waterford

2014-02-18 Thread Dan
Yep, they paint there too. I toured the factory with a group of BOBs several years back. They had several Paramounts that had come in for restoration (and were absolutely perfect) and a guy was in the process of spraying a yellow Gunnar when we went by the paint booth. It's been said before,

[RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Pondero
It seems the key is what 'oversized' is compared against. Traditional diameter tubing doesn't seem undersized for me. But I'm smaller and lighter. 60cm frames are 'oversized' frames...for some of us. So 'over' and 'under' seem to have much to do with rider and purpose. -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/18/2014 10:13 AM, Shaun Meehan wrote: Agreed. And we might as well start referring to the traditional diameter tubung as undersized tubing. Shaun Meehan On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com mailto:thill@gmail.com wrote: It's been

[RBW] How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread David Stein
New to the group. Have a Hunq on order. I've seen a number of threads dancing around this topic (including the recent 'Hunqapillar as a true mountain bike' thread). Wanted to ask the question a different way, how many mountain bikes do you own, what are they, and when do you decide to take

Re: [RBW] Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
As long as we use terms like standard and oversize, there's bound to be confusion and mistaken ideas. With the sheer variety of not only tubing diameters, but also wall thicknesses, butting, cross-section shapes, heat treating options, etc, not to mention a lot of different frame designs,

Re: [RBW] FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1400 shipped - bump and price drop

2014-02-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
Deb my dear, I think a 58cm Rambouillet is a little bit small for a true 6-footer, especially with a flat bar setup. I think I could fit well on a 58 Ram with a drop bar setup, but I'm only 5'10. A 59 San Marcos could be a good flat bar candidate for a 6-footer, but then he'd have the very

Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I have a near new '88 MB-2 Comp. 25 psi in the tires is my suspension. I always end up on by back looking up at the trees. I'm still not sold on this who roots and rocks riding thing On 2/18/2014 11:59 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: I see no reason for suspension other than my God given arms

[RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Mike Schiller
Oversize tubing adds stiffness given comparable wall thickness. So depending on your size and planned loads you choose the appropriate stiffness desired. at 6' and 195ish I find standard diameter 8/5/8 tubing the best for unloaded riding on the road and smooth dirt trails. For touring I

Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
Get scent free and come with me sometime. Roots and rocks are fun to play on! I just take them slow and steady. They tell me how to ride them, what the flow is. We get along great! I go slow enough that most falls are me holding the handlebars and leaping to the side, all bits upright. With

[RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
Welcome to the group, and best of luck with your Hunqapillar I have one bike that was sold as a mountain bike. It's a 1986 Schwinn Paramountain. I have a Bombadil, which I guess is kind of a mountain bike. I have a two road bikes with plenty of clearance for cyclocross tires. I have four

[RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
I see no reason for suspension other than my God given arms and legs. My only bike is the Hunqapillar, which I now have 2.25 Smart Sams on and I love it for whatever I am doing (very biased toward remote dirt and single track. Poke around here for photos, but the Hunqapillar with 50mm touring

[RBW] Nitto R-14 vs Velo Orange Constructeur

2014-02-18 Thread Jim Bronson
I looked at both of these racks to satisfy my desire for a lightweight rear rack to carry no more than 5-7 lbs. Basically, to support what's in my Carradice Barley. Contents to support brevets of 400K and longer where a change of clothes for cooler evening riding may be required. Perhaps a

Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread David Stein
Bill - is this also known as the N+8? Patrick - agreed. My goal is to wait and ride and see what I want from there. But damn, 4 months is a long time to wait on a bike, too much time to think. Need to ride. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome to

Re: [RBW] Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/18/2014 12:54 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: As long as we use terms like standard and oversize, there's bound to be confusion and mistaken ideas. With the sheer variety of not only tubing diameters, but also wall thicknesses, butting, cross-section shapes, heat treating

[RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I meant derision in the sense that retro-grouches always resist new things, even when the new things have been common and widely accepted for a decade or two or three. The word oversize in this context is almost never used by somebody who doesn't have a bias toward older bikes. -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och! Aye. The wait is brutal! Get a poser bike to fill the void in the meantime. I rode what later became my wife's bike while I waited (I hadn't ridden a bike since my bludgeoned brain, so over ten years), and we'd gotten an old Trek MTB as a test bike. Way too small for me, but Rived out it

[RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Christian
Hi David, I have a Hunq and a Salsa Spearfish dually (and a Log Haul Trucker set up for commuting and a Terraferma 650B that I use for most mixed terrain, road, and all randonneuring). The Hunq and the SF are really very different bikes. I like them both and generally use them for different

Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Dan McNamara
I am in the Bay Area and for fire road/single track I have 3: Bombadil currently with Quasi-Moto tires, Black Mountain Cycle Monster Cross with Bruce Gordan RockRoad tires and a '94 Bridgestone XO-4 with Clement MSO tires. The Black Mountain is a pretty great bike for the $ if you have extra parts

Re: [RBW] Nitto R-14 vs Velo Orange Constructeur

2014-02-18 Thread Tim Gavin
The VO Constructeur rear rack doesn't connect to mounting bosses. It's designed to mount directly to metal fenders, or to the brake bridge (with an accessory mount). The brake bridge mounting doesn't look too bad to my eye. But not as nice or sturdy as the R-14. BTW, I have an unused R-14 you

[RBW] Re: FS: Berliot 55 cm for Seattle area

2014-02-18 Thread boomer
Sold to a RBW reader here in Seattle. On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:58:54 AM UTC-8, Michael wrote: boomers bike has a nice build and the cranks I like, 170mm length. Nice. 1k is a great price. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Philip Williamson
I have two mountain bikes - a 1999 Bontrager Privateer with front suspension and drop bars, and a rigid Singular Gryphon with drops. I have taken the Singular out on steep fireroads with Marathon Supremes, but I have knobbies on order. It's about to give up its gears to another bike, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/18/2014 01:34 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I meant derision in the sense that retro-grouches always resist new things, even when the new things have been common and widely accepted for a decade or two or three. The word oversize in this context is almost never used by somebody

[RBW] WTT. Nitto TechnomiDeluxe 12cmx25.4 for 100 or 80 Nitto

2014-02-18 Thread Michael Williams
Hey Group, like the title says; I have a Technomic Del. in 12cm x 25.4 clamp that is perfect for Boscos but Im trying some different bars, so looking for something shortereither a 10cm or 8cm Tallux or Tech. Deluxe. Prefer 25.4 but 26.0 is fine too!Thank you!!!-MIke -- You

Re: [RBW] FS: 58 Rambouillet Green complete bike - $1400 shipped - bump and price drop

2014-02-18 Thread Leslie
Need to figure out his PBH. Then from there, look at the frame-size. When you say flat bar, do you mean like a mountain-bike bar?If he doesn't want to go drops, I'd suggest an Albatross; might be a put off for some folks, but it's a versatile bar (I went moustache instead, but,

[RBW] Re: FS: Phil Track Low-Flange Polished Silver / Mavic Open Pro Silver 32H w/ IRD CNC 16T Freewheel

2014-02-18 Thread Curtis Schmitt
Still available. On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Curtis Schmitt curtisrschm...@gmail.comwrote: Wheelset only has about 250 miles on it. Looking for $500 + s/h. Want to buy a Schmidt dynohub wheelset, so these beauties gots to go. http://instagram.com/p/dSKxBzvgo5/ Curtis -- You

[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

2014-02-18 Thread eflayer
Ordered Privateer on Friday, arrived today from bikemania.biz. Size 60cm, frame weighs 5lb, 8oz. Steel cross fork, 350mm steerer, weighs 2lb, 8oz. I know noone cares about weight. Waiting for parts to arrive. On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:

[RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Coconutbill
David, I recently acquired a '93 MB-1, which I'm building up slowly as I'm new to setting up cantilevers, because this is my first mountain bike! I've got all the parts now, and it's coming together pretty quickly. I look forward to seeing your new bike. -Evan -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Shaun Meehan
Oversized tubing isn't oversized at all to anyone who hasn't been around bikes for 25-or-so years. To those newer to cycling oversized tubing and clipless pedals are equally bizarre terms. Both refer to what they've always seen as the norm. Anyway, my comment about referring to traditional size

Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
This response is also tongue-in-cheek. tongue in cheek, tongue in cheek. Since the new fad is for super flexy bikes made from undersized skinny tubes, who is the retrogrouch in this picture? The young kid who is trying this new flexible frame idea, having ridden stiff road bikes for the last

Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Shaun Meehan
I get it. Everything old is new again, to the point where the retrogrouch is the guy/girl that's refusing to try the new old stuff because the old stuff is too new-fangled for him or her. Plus ça change and so forth... On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

2014-02-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
Good luck with your Privateer! Plenty of us care about weight. Some care a little, some care a lot. Some only care sometimes. On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:01:19 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote: Ordered Privateer on Friday, arrived today from bikemania.biz. Size 60cm, frame weighs 5lb, 8oz.

Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

2014-02-18 Thread Peter Morgano
I mean that is a screaming deal for what it is, report back as I am sure there are many people who want an inexpensive option, even if they do have a Rivendell. Just looking at the construction quality and the price I don't think this eats into the Rivendell market as much as the VO market, but

[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

2014-02-18 Thread eflayer
I hope it rides nearly as good as it looks. I think the aesthetics are a bit mind blowing in the positive direction. Hope not lipstick on the proverbial pig. On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote: http://newalbioncycles.com/ Makes me wonder if, or the degree to

Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

2014-02-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/18/2014 03:57 PM, eflayer wrote: I hope it rides nearly as good as it looks. I think the aesthetics are a bit mind blowing in the positive direction. Hope not lipstick on the proverbial pig. I look forward to your report on it, once you have it built up. -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Jim M.
The Hunq makes a great mountain bike, as well as being an all-rounder. I've ridden a loaner Hunq up and down Mt Diablo and have no hesitation taking it through rough stuff. As for suspension, I've owned bikes with suspension, and it mainly allows you to go faster over rough stuff without having

Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
I think it's long past time to retire retrogrouch. All it ever was was a term of derision directed at those who were too independent-minded to fall into a swoon at the mention of any gimcrack marketed as something new (in a field where little, if anything hasn't already been tried before at

Re: [RBW] Nitto R-14 vs Velo Orange Constructeur

2014-02-18 Thread Ron Mc
My buddy who went with VO Constructeur front and rear hung them u and is replacing with Nitto because he decided he would rather attach a rack to his mounting lugs On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:02:55 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote: The VO Constructeur rear rack doesn't connect to mounting

Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto stem shifter thing/Paul singlemaker thing

2014-02-18 Thread Patrick Shea
Hi Jay: I was thinking I'd cover $5 to ship to the Conti US. Would you cover above the five bucks? If so, end me your address and I will mail them out ASAP. You can send me a check or do PayPal after I know the shipping cost. Cheers, Patrick On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Jay in Tel Aviv

Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Patrick Moore
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: I think it's long past time to retire retrogrouch. All it ever was was a term of derision directed at those who were too independent-minded to fall into a swoon at the mention of any gimcrack marketed as something new

[RBW] WTB: Rivendell Atlantis

2014-02-18 Thread Mike C518
Thanks for the link! That's exactly what I am looking for! I've sent an email, waiting to hear back and keeping my fingered crossed on this one. I've been a huge fan and admire of rivendell for the longest time, and this summer actually was able to visit walnut creek and the two riv locations.

Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I agree and apologize about using the R-word. I don't have anything against tubing of any diameter. I guess I would caution people not to think it's more important than it is, but if you can find a frame that meets all your other targets and also uses smaller size tubing, then go for it, if you

[RBW] WTB/WTT: inexpensive battery powered LED bicycle front lamp

2014-02-18 Thread Patrick Moore
The cheap German one VO sold me 6-7 years ago went futz and I am reduced to strapping a flashlight to my bar with a 2-fish-type block. Would prefer something like a 1/2 or 1 watt LED lamp powered by 3 AAAs with the LED technology no older than 5 years. I know I can buy one at the store, but I

[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: inexpensive battery powered LED bicycle front lamp

2014-02-18 Thread Patrick Moore
Whoops: said lamp should have an integrated clamp that easily goes on and off standard diameter bars (old standard). On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: The cheap German one VO sold me 6-7 years ago went futz and I am reduced to strapping a flashlight to

Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Christopher Chen
I'm not old enough to be a grouch. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I agree and apologize about using the R-word. I don't have anything against tubing of any diameter. I guess I would caution people not to think it's more important

Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
Our 1 year old is a grouch right now. Grouchiness is ageless. Huph! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 3:02:24 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: I'm not old enough to be a grouch. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Atlantis

2014-02-18 Thread Hugh Smitham
Mike, Just a note. The CL ad states he doesn't want to part out. The build is excellent and the price IMO quite reasonable considering what it would cost to build it up. If money is tight then maybe offer to make two payments. Many times people are willing to work with you in instances. The fact

Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Shaun Meehan
I'm on board with doing away with the retrogrouch label. The only drawback is that it would eliminate an easy way of categorizing myself when trying to relate my preferences to someone who's enthusiastic about a lot of the whizbang advancements that I have no interest in. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at

Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Atlantis

2014-02-18 Thread Hugh Smitham
And looking at the Flickr images the paint appears to be in excellent shape. Now nuff said. -Hugh On Feb 18, 2014 1:54 PM, Mike C518 mikecronin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the link! That's exactly what I am looking for! I've sent an email, waiting to hear back and keeping my fingered

Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/18/2014 05:02 PM, Christopher Chen wrote: I'm not old enough to be a grouch. http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2048789 :-) On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com mailto:thill@gmail.com wrote: I agree and apologize about using the

Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Atlantis

2014-02-18 Thread Dan McNamara
I work pretty close the seller's location and could help if needed. Just let me know. Dan On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Mike C518 mikecronin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the link! That's exactly what I am looking for! I've sent an email, waiting to hear back and keeping my fingered

[RBW] Re: Nitto R-14 vs Velo Orange Constructeur

2014-02-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
I put constructeur front and rear racks on my Windsor. I think they are great, but I did attach the rear to the metal fenders. It was a very time consuming install, but I love the result. It's never going to come off, now that it's on. The R14 is wildly more adjustable and is a far more

[RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Hey there David - Thanks for contributing to the group. Welcome! The smilingly flippant answer is all of them! ;^) It's also imprecise, as there are a couple of the bikes I own which don't really encounter trails (though each have been on dirt) and my mountain bike - which does not match

[RBW] About to do my first Bosco Bullmoose front end

2014-02-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
I acquired a 1986 Schwinn Paramountain (Ned Overend signature edition) on the second-hand market. I'm setting it up with a Bosco Bullmoose. It's got front and rear suntour rollercam brakes. The Bosco Bullmoose bars arrived this morning. I felt a little bad because there is really no good

Re: [RBW] How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Patrick Moore
Welcome and please post photos of the Hunq when you build it up. The Hunq is the one Rivendell that I'd like to add to my stable. (Well, also a Roadeo and a Legolas and p'r'aps a Bleriot, but certainly the Hunq.) As it is, I have a very nice original (pre-suspension corrected) Fargo that is very,

[RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread RJM
My old mountain bike is a 1996 Specialized Stumpjumper M2 frame with a front suspension fork and 26 wheels...canti brakes. The bike is in pieces now because the suspension fork finally gave up. I rode that bike so much, light, nimble, and just a good time. I would like to get a new fork for it

Re: [RBW] SoCal February S240 poll.

2014-02-18 Thread Hugh Smitham
Update: Rob has recruited about 5 or 6 locals for the overnight. So by my count that's 11. That's counting Evan, Mike, Curtis and me. Mike and Curtis could you let me know what time you plan on arriving? Rob has a start time or 9:30am or 10 am just want to make sure you fellows can make it for

Re: [RBW] SoCal February S240 poll.

2014-02-18 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Hugh, Just reserved space on train 761 which has an arrival in Ventura of 9:35 am. Will be making this a two night trip. You should as well:) Curtis who needs a bike overnight Mckenzie On Tuesday, February 18, 2014, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Update: Rob has recruited about

Re: [RBW] Re: Sexy new touring tire? Schwalbe Almotion

2014-02-18 Thread cyclotourist
I have a pair of Little Big Bens for our tandem, and like them, but would like something that's a true 40mm width (LBBs measure 36-37mm) but that can handle inflation up to 85psi. If these can hold that much pressure, they could be a great tire for the tandem. Cheers, David it isn't a contest.

Re: [RBW] SoCal February S240 poll.

2014-02-18 Thread Hugh Smitham
Curtis, I'd love to but I'm requesting off March 23rd when Smitty visits from PDX possible Joshua Tree overnight which you should consider...then in April time off for a Death Valley trip and the big one, late June early July, Siskiyou's, PDX and July 12th Bay Area Rally. I'll consider it tho.

Re: [RBW] SoCal February S240 poll.

2014-02-18 Thread Mike Schiller
Did I miss an email? A JTree overnight? March is filling up fast. I'll be on the same train(s) with Curtis. I would guess we will be there before 10am after loading up and the long ride under the freeway to Rob's. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread cyclotourist
Man, so much good reading on this thread! Like others have said, I ride all my bikes on the same trails. The big difference is speed. With my front suspended 29er, I can go faster and feel less beat up at the end of the day. With my single speed Quickbeam and 35mm slicks, I'm picking and choosing

Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Eric Platt
I'll be an outlier. If I were to buy a mountain bike (i.e. a purpose designed bike for mainly single and double track, then it would have front suspension. My hands have been damaged over the years and the only way I could ever do serious mountain biking is with suspension. That said, I now

[RBW] WTT: My Moustache or my 44Noodle for 40/41/42 Noodle

2014-02-18 Thread Michael
Looking for a 40/41/42 noodle. I have a new 44 Noodle to trade or a Moustache (old) to trade. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Reorganizing Betty

2014-02-18 Thread true
Sunday afternoon I was riding down Dallas' busiest multi use trail which is only about 4 miles due to very nice weather folks were out in droves, mostly walkers, runners, dog walkers, etc , because it is a pain for cyclists on a busy day to weave in and out of all of the activity but there

Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
Your elbows don't bend? Grin. I don't mean to be incredulous here. I genuinely want to understand. I realize the elbow bending requires bending and strength in the wrist. I just know that too often people think they need more cushioning, when in fact they would benefit from less to build

Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Patrick Moore
Not even roots and rocks, just bad washboard, but I've ridden such bad washboard, at speed, on 60 mm tires at sub 20 psi, where, literally, I could not draw a breath or see anything except a smudge* because I was being shaken up so bad. This was while standing, knees bent, elbows bent, hands

Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Anne Paulson
When I asked in this forum a few months ago about a suspension for the Great Divide, people said I should ride my Atlantis. But on the Great Divide, the suspension is not for the rocks in Montana and Colorado. It's for the washboard in New Mexico. My elbows bend, but I don't think I can damp that

Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
I bow to that. Washboard is the only reason I would consider suspension. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 6:52:57 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: When I asked in this forum a few months ago about a suspension for the Great Divide, people said I should ride my Atlantis. But

[RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Chris Lampe 2
If you can find a Surly Troll to test ride, do so. I'm riding a bike that isn't too far off from a Hunqapillar (except it maxes out at 40'ish mm tires) and there's no way I would be comfortable riding it as a mountain bike. I have now test ridden a Surly Karate Monkey and a Troll (both

Re: [RBW] How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Eric Daume
I come to biking from a mountain biking background, so I maybe have a different perspective than some. My current mtb fleet is: - Surly Krampus 29+, just got this built up and only have ride on it so far (it didn't go well, but blame the mechanic (me), not the frame). see:

Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Eric Platt
Well, my excuse and it is only that, is moderate to severe carpal tunnel syndrome for the past 30 years. Bad enough that my hands can go numb riding a bike no handed. But granted, suspension is only a crutch. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Deacon Patrick

Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread Mike Schiller
I would certainly agree on the sturdiness of oversize tubing ruggedness is a function of material properties... usually meaning heat treated tubing which has 3 times the dent resistance of plain CroMo used on most production bikes. ~mike On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 1:55:18 PM UTC-8,

[RBW] Re: WTT: My Moustache or my 44Noodle for 40/41/42 Noodle

2014-02-18 Thread Michael
To explain the 40/41/42 Noodle designation. Some call it a 40, some a 41, others a 42. That's why I used all the numbers. But whatever that size is that is less than 44, is what I am looking for in a Noodle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread C.J. Filip
Two. Both are the same frame model, size and age: ~1995-built, 19, Independent Fabrication Dexluxes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: How many mountain bikes do you own?

2014-02-18 Thread Jim M.
On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 6:48:38 PM UTC-8, EricP wrote: Well, my excuse and it is only that, is moderate to severe carpal tunnel syndrome for the past 30 years. Bad enough that my hands can go numb riding a bike no handed. But granted, suspension is only a crutch. I'm sorry to hear

Re: [RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread dougP
I just tell 'em ...the 20th century was good to me so that's where I'm staying... Provides ample wiggle room on lots of issues. dougP On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 2:13:32 PM UTC-8, meehan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm on board with doing away with the retrogrouch label. The only drawback is

[RBW] Way too good to keep to myself.

2014-02-18 Thread Manuel Acosta
Hate too call him out but just can't keep it to myself. Mr.Jared de Rivendell. Is the man! You talk about adventures. Every time I get to talk to him he's always coming back from some amazing adventure. He's posting photos and his last couple of trips look amazing and romantic. Like a

[RBW] Re: Pics from inside Waterford

2014-02-18 Thread RonaTD
On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:27:22 PM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote: Richard and Johanna at Waterford very kindly indulged my curiosity for their amazing workshop in Waterford. I was there on Friday afternoon, dropping off my almost 30 year old Santana tandem frame for them to do a new

[RBW] Re: Just what is oversized tubing?

2014-02-18 Thread RonaTD
Back to the thread topic … oversize vs standard or skinny tubes … I have a variety of mostly Rivendell bikes (Herons, Riv Road, Riv MTB, Quickbeam, Bleriot Protovelo) generally built with plus-sized tubes, though the Riv Road has identical 28.6 top and down tubes. And I have a Terraferma 650B

[RBW] Re: Way too good to keep to myself.

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Virgil
Could we be talking Tejas and the Buena Suerte Cinnabar Mercury Mine Ghost Townhttp://www.dallasphotoworks.com/buena-suerte-cinnabar-mercury-mine-ghost-town-far-flung-outdoor-center-jeep-tour-terlingua-ranch-texas-big-bend-truck-dsc_0304x/? One way or the other, it appears Jared knows how to

[RBW] Re: Way too good to keep to myself.

2014-02-18 Thread hsmitham
My guess is DV. Looks good. ~Hugh On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:51:20 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote: Hate too call him out but just can't keep it to myself. Mr.Jared de Rivendell. Is the man! You talk about adventures. Every time I get to talk to him he's always coming back from some

[RBW] Re: Pics from inside Waterford

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Virgil
I must have got in just under the wire. My Boulder All Roadhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/20853610@N05/12044332645/ was crafted at Waterford. I do not know if the pin stripe was was done at Waterford or with one of Mike Kone's Boulder resources. I can say I like it (the frame and the paint)

[RBW] Sam H. + Hetres + Fenders = Tire Rub?

2014-02-18 Thread Aaron Young
Hey gang, I have Hetres on my first-gen (gold 'n' green) Sam H. with VO Zeppelin fenders. Clearances are fairly tight, but there is no tire rub as long as the wheels are true and the fenders are adjusted properly. However, under heavy pedaling it seems (sounds/feels like) some tire rub may

Re: [RBW] Sam H. + Hetres + Fenders = Tire Rub?

2014-02-18 Thread Peter Morgano
Are you sure it is frame flex and not a wheel slightly out of true? I could fit hetres and Zeppelins on my Hilsen so I don't see how this combo wouldn't work on a Sam, unless thos with early ones had tighter clearances. On Feb 19, 2014 12:51 AM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote: Hey gang, I

[RBW] Re: Way too good to keep to myself.

2014-02-18 Thread Tom Virgil
The ever clueless Tom asks What is 'DV'? Death Valley? Thanks, Tom On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:31:18 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: My guess is DV. Looks good. ~Hugh On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:51:20 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote: Hate too call him out but just can't keep it to

Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Atlantis

2014-02-18 Thread Anne Paulson
If you bought the bike and didn't want the Large Saddlesack, I'm sure you could get a nice price for it by selling it on this list. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, Just a note. The CL ad states he doesn't want to part out. The build is

Re: [RBW] Re: Way too good to keep to myself.

2014-02-18 Thread Hugh Smitham
Yep, or one of the lesser valleys in DVNP perhaps Panamint or Eureka. -Hugh On Feb 18, 2014 9:55 PM, Tom Virgil tevir...@gmail.com wrote: The ever clueless Tom asks What is 'DV'? Death Valley? Thanks, Tom On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 9:31:18 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: My guess is DV.

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