[RBW] Re: derailleur hanger

Wiggle it like Wiegle... Bend it like Bilenky...Nudge it like Nobilette...Persuade it like Petersen...Wrench it like Waterford...Tweak it like Toyo... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Clem w/drop bars

I have a pbh of 81 and i can tell you that riding with drops on that 57.5TT of the smallest clemframe would have me stretched out like Obre. One size up I'd be stretched out like superman! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

Upright bars for slow riding ? Try telling that to Freddie Hoffman: 18mph average speeds on his 100lb. steeds, over 1-2 million miles, according to the rivarticle i read, iirc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Clem w/drop bars

I'm 78pbh and have the smallest CLEM. Drop bars on that frame would be an exercise in riding like Graeme Obree. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] BLUG Roadeo size?

They both look 55ish to me, although Mark's original does seem to have a slightly shorter headtube. I'm guessing that spec evolved a smidge over the years. Mercy, that red Roadeo looks fabulous! PS. I love the influence of the young folks showing through on the BLUG. Grant would never say

[RBW] Re: Used Rambouillet Value?

All Rambouillets are beautiful, but the orange is transcendent. Hard to put a price on transcendent, though. Maybe an extra $100? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] RE: FS 56cm Rivendell Atlantis

> > Hugh, > > Is this sold? If not, drop me a line at kolbyt at gmail dot com. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] BLUG Roadeo size?

The Mar 2 BLUG entry on the new demo Roadeo at RBW WHQ says the frame is a 55. The head tube looks significantly longer than the one on Mark's 55 Roadeo in the staff bikes section. Am I cross eyed? Is one of these not a 55? Typo? What do you all think? -- You received this message because you

[RBW] RBW Listers Take Over The West Point Inn, June 24 & 25 - Join us there!!!

Sounds great. Please count my wife and I in. Regards Ted -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

[RBW] Clem w/drop bars

Has anyone set up their Clem frameset with drops, comments, pictures. Thanks, Steve Rancho Palos Verdes, Ca. -- Steven Sweedler Plymouth, New Hampshiret -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [RBW] New tire

So, rather different than the 23 mm Pro Race *Service Course.* I would be interested in trying them, if they were made in 559 X 28+. To save ~$500 on my next 6 pairs of tires ... Aside: I briefly tried Schwalbe's 559 X ~33 mm Kojak *tubeless* on my EQ 21 rims. They ride much differently sans tube

Re: [RBW] New tire

Pat, The new Michelen that I bought is a new tire. Max lbs 85, min 57. I have used Grand Bois Cerfs for years and have always liked them. But, I was lured into giving the Michelens a try. I really like them. I don't ride off road much ( although I rode on a 2 mile stretch of gravel on Monday),

Re: [RBW] New tire

Sheesh! Not 12 pair, 6 pair, at $78/each. On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 7:15 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > BTW, the Pro Race 4s I bought were the *Service Course"* model-- racing > tires, no flat protection included. > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Patrick Moore

Re: [RBW] New tire

BTW, the Pro Race 4s I bought were the *Service Course"* model-- racing tires, no flat protection included. On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > This may or may not be relevant, but in case it is: I swapped the 650C X > 23 mm Pro Race 4s on my Riv custom

Re: [RBW] New tire

This may or may not be relevant, but in case it is: I swapped the 650C X 23 mm Pro Race 4s on my Riv custom gofast with 559 X 32 mm Compass Elk Pass ELs. The Michelins measured ~22 mm on my 19 outside to outside rims, the Compass ~28 mm. The Michelins weigh just under 200 grams, the EPs average

[RBW] Re: Compass Promenade vs. Bosco bars

Main difference is tubing size: 23.8 (road bar standard) for the Promenade, and 22.2 (upright/mtb standard) diameter, meaning the Promenade would need to take bar end brake levers or find 23.8mm brake levers that would work. I've tried a similar Nitto Promenade (though wider at 48cm) which has

[RBW] New tire

I had worn out my Grand Bois 28c rear tire and was ready to buy a new one( $70 shipped). So I decided to check out some prices. Western Bikeworks had a super sale on Michelen Pro4 tires and I bought a pair of Pro4 Endurance 700x28's and they are super. I run 62f, 75r lbs, and the ride is

[RBW] Re: Used Rambouillet Value?

Just an observation. Isn't it amazing the prices these used Rivs bring? The market speaks. Grant's frames and bikes are not throw away consummables. On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 10:22:31 AM UTC-8, Mark Williams wrote: > > >

[RBW] Re: AW 114 mm OL hub on QB or SO?

I should add that I do have experience putting a 114 mm OL AW into a 126 mm OL Trek Elance 400 frame. It was doable, but it was not pretty or ethical -- certainly highly against nature. My question comes down to: would the 3 mm less on each side avoid the violence otherwise required? Patrick

Re: [RBW] Re: Used Rambouillet Value?

I certainly didn't pay or, when I sold it, get $2K for my blue Ram, though I am also certainly happy with what I got and with what I paid. FWIW, I should think that the later Rams, with clearance for nominal 35s and fenders, would demand a higher price than the earlier, narrower models -- unless

Re: [RBW] Compass Promenade vs. Bosco bars

I have one set of Promenade bars I'm selling if you're interested. 45cm width at the ends. Will post the "For Sale" message soon, need to organize all the photos. Lots of bars and saddles and racks... On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 1:49 PM, René Sterental wrote: > I've used both.

[RBW] FS: Clem Smith Jr Size 52 Grey

I have for sale a size 52 Clem Smith Jr Grey frame or semi-complete bike *(minus the handlebars; replaced the stock tires)*. I have already sold the stock handlebars that come with the complete bike, so no handlebars are included. I have replaced the stock tires with Schwalbe Big Ben

Re: [RBW] Used Rambouillet Value?

i have a blue 54Ram and had a green 56 Ram and almost had an orange 54 which i wanted very badly. So having bought and sold and watched i wish to substantiate what everyone else is saying. A 54 ram in very nice shape with very good components and seat and pedals but maybe no nitto rack i would

[RBW] Re: Used Rambouillet Value?

The two orange Ram framesets that I have bought, sold and bought were in the $600-700 range, including the original headset. I feel like a complete Ram in a popular mid-size such as yours would realistically sell for around $1200-1500 complete. If it didn't come with saddle or pedals, it might

Re: [RBW] Used Rambouillet Value?

My 650b Ram has plenty of tire clearance for 42s and fenders :). I paid ~$900 shipped for my frame with headset and BB. Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] AW 114 mm OL hub on QB or SO?

Has anyone done this? Any problems? Note: the older SA hubs, at least, were not 120 OL but 114. My AM is 114, and I wonder if there will be enough axle extending beyond the dropouts to accept the nuts. I will of course install spacers behind the locknuts. I think it's the AM -- medium ratio 3

[RBW] Re: Used Rambouillet Value?

I'm tempted to ask you if you want to trade my blue Sam for it but I see you are downsizing, and I'm also not 100% sure I would be willing to part with old blue. It would make a great upright bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Used Rambouillet Value?

My first ever seeing-live-in-person Riv was an orange Ram in San Rafael, CA. That metallic paint has a multilevel shimmer to it which looks like 3D. To paraphrase Greg Kihn, they don't paint 'em like that anymore. Joe "my size, but doesn't fit my credit card right now, dangit" Bernard Vallejo,

[RBW] Re: Used Rambouillet Value?

According to the brochure, blue ones with this build (link below) went for $2,100 USD new and complete. You could add or subtract from that for whatever you think is fair. http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet/rambflyer/18.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: Used Rambouillet Value?

Size rarity and condition are big factors in determining where in the range this will fall. Presuming that's a current photo and it is as pristine as it looks here (used but in very good condition), I'd start closer to 2k than 800. Being simpler, the QB usually goes for less, but component

[RBW] Re: Used Rambouillet Value?

A lot depends on the condition of the bike and quality of the components. The age is almost irrelevant on a steel frame. That is a very pretty crank by the way. If someone is looking for a beautiful, comfortable joy ride, they should jump at it. I hesitate to put down a number but can tell

[RBW] Re: New Riv custom mixte - what I'm thinking for colour and build

Pictures of the color from Mitch's Flickr page below. I love it. I think it's called Black Currant Pearl. I'll put a link for the PPG paint tool also. It's really neat. It's based on auto colors, so if you knew the make and year of a car color you like you can pull it right out.

Re: [RBW] Used Rambouillet Value?

That's in beautiful condition! This is total "gut feeling," so take it for what it's worth. Based on what other upper end, well-spec'd Rivendells in good condition typically sell for, I'd think it much closer to the $2,000 range of that Legolas than the $800 range of that Romulus. I might

[RBW] Re: Used Rambouillet Value?

Thank you, Tim. We're in Seattle. It's just remarkable that so few if these bikes are on the market- I guess those that have them keep them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Compass Promenade vs. Bosco bars

I've used both. The Promenade are much smaller and narrower, so it's either a rider and bike size issue. Or a personal preference. I'm big 5'11" and had them for a while on my 58 Betty and loved them. I didn't enjoy the Boscos on the Betty as much, but had all versions on the Hunqapillar for a

[RBW] Compass Promenade vs. Bosco bars

Anyone used both the Promenade and the Bosco aluminum (not the bullmoose)? What's your experience with them? The Promenade looks like a mini version of the Bosco, because the width and all is much smaller, but the design looks similar. Was wondering how the two compare. The small sized rider

[RBW] Re: not so simple simpleone

What a cool bike. I love the way you have changed it to suit you. The shifter on the seatstay is especially great. May I ask, what 6 speed cassette works with those narrow bmx freehubs? Thanks for sharing it. Andrew in SLC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Reverse brake levers - pros, cons?

FWIW, I've got a pair of reverse Tektros, I think; stock on the Hon Solo; black. Good condition. If anyone wants them, make me an offer with shipping from 87120. Trades ideas welcome. On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 1:52 PM, JohnS wrote: > I've had very good experience with reverse

[RBW] Re: Used Rambouillet Value?

Where are you located? On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 1:22:31 PM UTC-5, Mark Williams wrote: > > > > We are downsizing to a much smaller home so I'm having to let go of some >

Re: [RBW] RBW Listers Take Over The West Point Inn, June 24 & 25 - Join us there!!!

Wow! What did you brake that will take so long to heal? On Wednesday, March 2, 2016, Reid wrote: > Oh man, I would just love to do this. For any of you thinking "maybe," > just sign up, send in your check, and do it. The setting is awesome. > Unfortunately for me, I just

[RBW] Re: RBW Listers Take Over The West Point Inn, June 24 & 25 - Join us there!!!

Oh man, I would just love to do this. For any of you thinking "maybe," just sign up, send in your check, and do it. The setting is awesome. Unfortunately for me, I just managed a really dumb move while riding my AHH and the doc says I won't be riding before the end of June. Of course, by then

Re: [RBW] Re: RBW Listers Take Over The West Point Inn, June 24 & 25 - Join us there!!!

I've never been or ridden in the area, so feeling very intrigued. Working out the logistics to see if I can make it, at least on Saturday for the ride. René On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 11:42 AM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm in. December was fantastic. > Even if you

[RBW] Re: RBW Listers Take Over The West Point Inn, June 24 & 25 - Join us there!!!

I'm in. December was fantastic. Even if you didn't ride more than the two miles from Pantoll, this would still be a great thing to do. Or, you could ride anywhere you wanted, and have a great base to come back to! If you've ridden up Railroad Grade, you probably stopped at the West Point Inn

Re: [RBW] Re: RBW Listers Take Over The West Point Inn, June 24 & 25 - Join us there!!!

Argh!!! Thank you! On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:50 AM, cyclotour...@gmail.com < cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hidden in plain sight! :-) > > Yes, the nights of June 24 & 25th, with the ramble and dinner on the 25th. > Bring that Atlantis on over, René! > > On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at

Re: [RBW] Used Rambouillet Value?

Ebay "sold" listings is a good start. $1350 Bleriot <$2k Betty Foy (best offer accepted)

Re: [RBW] Re: RBW Listers Take Over The West Point Inn, June 24 & 25 - Join us there!!!

Hidden in plain sight! :-) Yes, the nights of June 24 & 25th, with the ramble and dinner on the 25th. Bring that Atlantis on over, René! On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 10:29:32 AM UTC-8, Hugh Smitham wrote: > > Hi René , > > It's in the subject line. June 24th & 25th. > > Cheers, > > ~Hugh > >

Re: [RBW] Re: RBW Listers Take Over The West Point Inn, June 24 & 25 - Join us there!!!

Hi René , It's in the subject line. June 24th & 25th. Cheers, ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipeedemusings.com/ On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:22 AM, René Sterental wrote: > I keep reading

Re: [RBW] Re: RBW Listers Take Over The West Point Inn, June 24 & 25 - Join us there!!!

I keep reading but cannot find the dates in June for this event... am I missing the dates? Help me out to see if I'd be able to join, even if for Saturday only. René On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Hugh Smitham wrote: > Well you know I'm in. > > When the Entmoot/ Riv

[RBW] Used Rambouillet Value?

We are downsizing to a much smaller home so I'm having to let go of some treasures, among them is my 54 cm Rambouillet, but I don't have a clue about its value. I ordered one

Re: [RBW] Re: Reverse brake levers - pros, cons?

Interesting! Personally, I'm very happy with my downtube shifters, but it's good to see that there are some worthwhile choices for those who still want barend shifters. @ Clyde: Yes, the reverse brake work "backwards", but the lever is still pulling the cable against the housing. On Wed, Mar 2,

[RBW] Re: RBW Listers Take Over The West Point Inn, June 24 & 25 - Join us there!!!

Well you know I'm in. When the Entmoot/ Riv twentieth happened I'll never forget that high. Folks from near and far converging on China Camp (Grant, Will & Jenny handing out raffle prizes) was an event like the one's you have as a youth that become a personal high water mark. I recall lister

Re: [RBW] Re: RBW Listers Take Over The West Point Inn, June 24 & 25 - Join us there!!!

This event sounds fantastic! Bravo to David for setting it up. (Am bummed that I'll be away on vacation at that time.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: Reverse brake levers - pros, cons?

I wouldn't ride a Alba or similar bar without them ! You can mount Paul thumbies next to the lever if you wish. http://www.biketinker.com/2013/projects/reverso-levers-and-bar-end-shifters/ I prefer thumbies around the inside top inside myself as my hands are most often in the middle on

Re: [RBW] Reverse brake levers - pros, cons?

Do the cables work backwards...ie...I guess you would be pulling the cable instead of pushing the housing? On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Scott Henry wrote: > An option would be to run cross levers backwards in the reverse lever > position, then the ends would still be open

[RBW] Re: New Riv custom mixte - what I'm thinking for colour and build

Tim...I'd love to see the colour you are talking about , if you have a photo; that sounds really close to what I want. Anyhow, the Riv site directed me to the Joe Bell Imron PDF...but from what you're saying , that exact colour might not be available...but I expect JB will come up with a

[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

Hands behind steering axis: With Albatross bars and 8(?) cm stem at max height on my Sam the steering felt just as good as with drops with 8 cm stem. Smooth and stable. Standing climbing holding the bar ends on the grips was same. Excellent control and leverage. Never used a longer stem

Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

Hi Rene, Yes, those Berthoud mudflaps are robust, I grant you that On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 4:44:29 PM UTC-6, René wrote: > > Thanks Ryan! > > On the Atlantis I'm actually using a Brooks leather mudflap because I had > it and like it in brown. On the Hunqapillar, I actually had the

[RBW] Re: Need advice on a potential Quickbeam Modification

Do you have to carry a spare belt with you wherever you go? If a chain snaps you just need a power link. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Geeky stuff I find quite helpful - my bike now has a rear radar!

Sounds cool, but I think I'm getting the same benefit from a bar-mounted mirror. I have one on all my bikes, and can't live without them. I can't believe I rode so many years without being able to see cars approaching from the rear. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Re: RBW Listers Take Over The West Point Inn, June 24 & 25 - Join us there!!!

I'm having a second wedding that day in Croatia or else I'd be there! -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: FS: Tires - Big Ones, BG Rock/Roads, 650b Knards

All sold. Thanks! On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 4:37:53 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote: > > Selling tires I'll probably regret in a month, but they're not on a bike, > so off they go. > > Paypal Personal on these please, or cover fees. Shipping is NOT included. > As they're all folding beads, I

Re: [RBW] Reverse brake levers - pros, cons?

An option would be to run cross levers backwards in the reverse lever position, then the ends would still be open for barcon use. Scott On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Lungimsam wrote: > What's your experience? > > Thinking if I ever try an upright bar, would these be

[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

Rene, I just installed a set of Diacompe Guidonnet levers on the Albatross bars on my Atlantis. So far only one commute with them. I will give an update after a few more rides with them. Erl On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 9:40:49 PM UTC-5, René wrote: > > I thought about it, but I think it

[RBW] Re: Need advice on a potential Quickbeam Modification

What's to gain? No oil and 4 years between changes of belt vs 1 year per chain. Is that really enough to justify the known and possible costs: What's to lose? Cash for conversion. Your Quickbeam. Or the feel of your Quickbeam. "a carbon belt seems to make a lot of sense over a chain" Then buy a

[RBW] Re: Latest Atlantis update

I read with interest your short comment about hands being either in front of or behind the steering axis. Would someone (and Rene too) expand on this variable of handling? What effect does it have? Thanks all. On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 9:40:49 PM UTC-5, René wrote: > > I thought about it,

[RBW] Re: derailleur hanger

Yep, everyone is right about just trying it, either yourself or at a shop ... but aren't you in Bklyn? If so, give Johnny Coast a call. He can bend it or replace it for you and he does make some awfully nice bikes right here in the big apple. On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 5:13:53 AM UTC-5,

[RBW] Re: derailleur hanger

Done with the right tool, the rear wheel mounted, a steel frame derailleur hanger can usually take the adjustment. Yours seems to be on the low end of the bent scale. Knackered ones are bent so much as to violate the integrity of the threaded hole or show the surface fractures of having bent