Re: [RBW] Re: ROADINI tease on the BLUG

On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 10:28:19 PM UTC-7, Lungimsam wrote: > but what if it has a funk a tube from the BB shell up into the center of the > top tube? In that case it would be a flying gate frame. Clayton Scott SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: ROADINI tease on the BLUG

but what if it has a funk a tube from the BB shell up into the center of the top tube? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] October colors

I find that no picture can match the beautiful optics of the human eye. So I know that scene pictured must havebeen even more beautiful in person. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] front rack recommendations

VO just restocked this one: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/campeur-front-rack.html Which is almost suspiciously similar to the Nitto 27F that I mentioned earlier. However, it has a removable decaleur that I didn't want (doesn't seem like it would get on well

[RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Rivendell Custom on MidCal (?) Craigslist

Wouldn't expect it to last long at that price. Make it a long weekend & enjoy riding around the Central Coast. dougP On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 7:35:01 PM UTC-7, sameness wrote: > > Dunno why it's posted in LA yet not showing up on SLO, but here you go: > >

Re: [RBW] front rack recommendations

Cool. Great info. Any word on the velo orange offerings? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Downtube shifters are so much better than the original Campy shifters that were mounted on the seat stays. But even they were breakthroughs for the time--for the first time ever, a rider should shift remotely. We have a bike here with those "Cambio Corsa" shifters, and anybody who comes by can try

[RBW] PSA: 58cm Rivendell Custom on MidCal (?) Craigslist

Dunno why it's posted in LA yet not showing up on SLO, but here you go: http://santabarbara.craigslist.org/bik/5831675817.html Make it an overnighter and stay at the Madonna Inn. I recommend the Kona Rock. Not mine, no affiliation, etc. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

For the downtube you could always get the ENE Ciclo Gran Compe Downtube Shifters. I think they look cooler and they haven't been made for 17 yrs so presumable the mold isn't near wearing out. http://store.somafab.com/enecidosh.html Hard to believe we have choices in new friction shifters.

Re: [RBW] front rack recommendations

Ah! Thanks for the explanation. I thought they were the same. Didn't pay close attention to the photos. So no go for the combination. Good learning! René On Wednesday, October 19, 2016, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Rene > > I've never tried that, but remember that the M18 is

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Albastache bars

I took CBB up on his bars. Good luck finding yours. Monica Seattle On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 6:19 PM Jeremy Tavan wrote: > I didn't want to post a "me too" until someone replied to Monica and > offered some. That said, if anyone _else_ has an extra albastache, or if > Monica has

[RBW] Re: WTB: Albastache bars

I didn't want to post a "me too" until someone replied to Monica and offered some. That said, if anyone _else_ has an extra albastache, or if Monica has already found one and no longer is interested, I'd love to try one. /Jeremy On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 4:29:59 PM UTC-7, Conway

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Bill--Actually, I do think I get the point. My friends at Riv decided to change the shape of the shifter in light of the fact that the original mold has worn out. They could have simply made a new mold in the shape of the original which, I believe, is optimized for DT mounting and more than

Re: [RBW] Re: front rack recommendations

Rene I've never tried that, but remember that the M18 is significantly different from a Marks rack. I don't think there's enough attach points on an M18 to take a platrack well. The Marks rack has four strut eyelets and the M18 only has two. The marks rack facilitates bolting the platrack

Re: [RBW] Re: front rack recommendations

I have an excellent condition Platrack with bag, that you can use on top of your Nitto M18 for just the reasons you outline. It has long stays that support it from the fork eyelets at the tip (where the hub attaches). I no longer use it, but can sell it cheap. There are many options, as you

[RBW] October colors

The colors change so quickly this time of year that I don't like to miss a day. The picture below shows a portion of the Indianapolis Central Canal Tow Path just before it stared raining tonight. The colors and shadows vary with the light. I enjoy it at all times. May your ride make you smile. Bob

[RBW] WTB: Albastache bars

I have the bars you are looking for! I bought them off the list. I opened the box took a look and realize they are not gonna work so they are already packed and ready to go. PM me to work out the details. FW, CBB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] WTB: Albastache bars

Cross posting from iBOB. Looking for some Albastache Bars for a newly acquired XO-1. It had drops but I moved it back to the traditional mustache bars and I keep wishing they went a bit father back. So yeah Albastache. Anyone have any they aren't using and willing to give up for $$$? Help

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about Riv bike sizing again?

I measure the effective top tube length. When I bought the frame, I was aware that the geo-chart said 59, and Keven pointed out to me that it was really 57.5cm, which I measured and confirmed. I don't know how many Sam's have a 59cm top tube and how many have a 57.5cm top tube. On

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about Riv bike sizing again?

I made that up, he never told me the year. It's the same color as the one on Lovely Bicycle from 2010, so my guess is this is 2009/2010, very possible its the 59 ett. On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 5:54:18 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote: > > Mine is a green Hillborne, Taiwan built, with cantis.

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about Riv bike sizing again?

Mine is a green Hillborne, Taiwan built, with cantis. Will had told me it is a 2012, but I dont know. BIll, are you measuring the 'effective' top tube or the actual? On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 5:45:39 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I believe those .65/.45/.65 wall thickness numbers

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about Riv bike sizing again?

I believe those .65/.45/.65 wall thickness numbers for the Roadeo. "planing" zealots dismiss the Roadeo as 'massively overbuilt' and 'far too stiff' because it features OS tubing in the top tube and the downtube. The Roadeo top tube is 28.6mm in diameter, and planing zealots will assure you

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about Riv bike sizing again?

I Googled "Roadeo Tubing Specs" or something and came up with a lotta stuff, including the .65/.45/.65 entry. And that is odd, because I've been told by thinwall tubing aficionados that the Roadeo is a tank. Sure, .65/.45./.65 does not sound like a tank. This is one conversation I found:

Re: [RBW] Re: ROADINI tease on the BLUG

Huh! This project sounds as if it might work well as a KOF entry into the Eroica world ... with very decadent multispeed freewheel derailleur drivetrains, to boot. Patrick "Not another project!" Moore, dreaming of strada blancas in ABQ, NM On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 at 3:54:41 PM UTC-4,

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about Riv bike sizing again?

Interesting, where did you see this? I dont know framebuilding but that is indeed thin? This is all still in elementary planning stages, but perhaps Columbus Spirit tubing, but I dont know more right now. On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 4:30:49 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I'll be very

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about Riv bike sizing again?

I'll be very interested to hear how this lightweight Roadeo develops. I read that Roadeo tubing is .65/.45/.65 which seems pretty thin to me. What tubing do you have in mind for your alternative? My dirt road Matthews has .8/.6/.8 tubing, like the Rams, I think -- certainly if feels less jarring

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about Riv bike sizing again?

The Soma has a bit more post showing than I'd like, though it rides fine, but I want a more french fit. There's a custom builder near I was thinking of tasking with a Roadeo-like-bike, 700x35 w fenders, with much lighter tubing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

I agree that they will make only makeshift dt shifters -- too bad. Me, I like the shape of the old ones for bar end shifting too, but for that purpose, the new ones will work at least as well. On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 12:45 PM, LBleriot wrote: > Meh. I can't get excited

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

Grant and Bill, Since I have used the original shifters since they came out, I have not used anything else and have never thought about them needing to be changed. That's where I'm coming from. You know, if it ain't broke and it

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about Riv bike sizing again?

Just out of curiosity, are you wondering all of this because you feel you might have purchased the wrong size? Reason I'm asking is that I’ve found it's easy to go down the rabbit hole of achieving a 'perfect' geometry, top tube/stem ratio, aesthetic proportion, etc. Not to say these aren’t

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

LBleriot missed the point of what to get excited about. Rivendell still has 82 sets of Silver 1's. The only reason a lover of Silver 1's should get excited is that the BLUG post makes clear that the old mold no longer exists. If that bums you out or freaks you out, you should treat

[RBW] Re: Silver 2 shifters

Meh. I can't get excited about this version since it seems that given the new shape DT mounting is an afterthought. To my eye, these are thumbies and would look silly on a Ram, Rom, Homer or Roadeo DT. On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 2:08:31 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > The BLUG has a

[RBW] Re: Brake comparison again

yeah v-brakes are pretty powerful, also coupled with that they need to be set up with the pads very close to the rim. may need adjustment in pulling the levers -- it really is two finger braking. a way to kind of counter act that is to loosen the cable pull for the front brake a little so you

Re: [RBW] front rack recommendations

I was looking for exactly the same sort of thing and was overjoyed to find the Nitto Campee Lowrider Front Rack (AKA 27F) at my local bike shop: http://boxdogbikes-3.myshopify.com/products/rack-front-nitto-nitto-campee-front-700c-or-28 With pannier frames installed, you're all set to tour. With

[RBW] Re: Brake comparison again

On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 11:10:30 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: > > I have lots of experience with bunches of SP & canti brakes, along with > assorted levers, but very little with V brakes and none with disks. During > the last month I have had the opportunity to try both out. We

[RBW] Re: front rack recommendations

I like the Nitto 27F, but I expect you might disqualify that because the platform is too narrow. I like Haulin' Colin's racks, but they don't mount down at the fork tips as you require. On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 at 9:11:48 AM UTC-7, drew wrote: > > im finding myself overloading my

[RBW] Brake comparison again

I have lots of experience with bunches of SP & canti brakes, along with assorted levers, but very little with V brakes and none with disks. During the last month I have had the opportunity to try both out. We have test ridden two tandems (a DaVinci with ICS and a CoMotion with a Rolhoff).

[RBW] Re: front rack recommendations

Drew, I had been eyeing this one by SOMA. http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/porteur-rack-stainless-steel I liked the fact that it was stainless and had crossbars for panniers. Matt at Pass and Stow here in the bay area makes great racks, too. (http://passstow.com/) Really helpful

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about Riv bike sizing again?

So I guess the long and short of it is that it is really difficult to understand how geometry and fit work together and it seems like there are many different schools of thought on this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet Questions

Whoah! Tons of clearance! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet Questions

https://flickr.com/photos/63018801@N00/sets/72157632683590627 My 60 Orange Ram as a 650b machine with Hetres. The drops are 48 noodles. My pbh is 87.5 and the saddle is at 77.5. Hope this helps, Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] front rack recommendations

im finding myself overloading my nitto m-18+basket regularly, and it is wiggling and bending more than i approve of. i think id like to replace it with a non-mini rack. looking around, there seem to be way more options than i thought there would be, especially with so many porteur style racks

[RBW] Re: S Protovelo Build

That lug lining is  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

Shifter pos: The "fwd" pos works better, doesn't put the lever too high in the "up" pos. It puts it farther away in the D-pos, but still easily in reach. The lack of metal washer: Ideally it would be oil-stuffed bronze, but that would've been an underappreciated black-hole money-sucker. I've

[RBW] Re: Acorn and Treetop bags for sale

Both bags have sold. Thanks for looking. On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 9:07:46 AM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote: > > > > I'm thinning out my bag

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

Back in 1983-1985, thumb shifters were right on top of the handlebar. The very first Shimano Indexed thumbshifters (6-speed SIS), were out in front by a bit. Just about everybody at that time thought that was better. I sure thought it was better. I do not recall ever wishing somebody moved

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about Riv bike sizing again?

I recently had my Bleriot fit mapped at Gravel and Grind by way of what is called an xy axis fit. It was then transfered tomy Rambouillet. The seat height and reach and bar height are different than the Bleriot if you measure with a tape measure. But the fit is the same in relation to the xy

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about Riv bike sizing again?

The mystery continues for me.. Found Riv's old geo chart (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gfiN1kOxVrthdc6eScUF9fP5n-BvRBILbBMYiEg5LM4/edit#gid=0), which just so happens to have the 51cm San Marcos I have and the 56cm Sam Hillborne. Grant's sizing says a 54cm San Marcos would have

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

I am guessing that the "plastic" lever that Bill mentioned above was made through a rapid prototyping method which yields similar results to a 3D print, but is a different process. You know I love my silver shifters and friction is fine, but I am also OK with indexing, in fact the old Deore XT

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

I am also curious as to why the washers for the new ones are not metal , as are the original ST thumbies ? On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 12:14:03 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > Short answer is: New washers seem fine. Longer answer is below. > > THey're still not breakproof, but

Re: [RBW] Silver 2 shifters

For Grant, I do wonder why the position of the new shifter is not like the original, as in directly over the bar instead of well forward of it ? I was so happy to see the shape of the shifter being like he original that I overloked the mount puts the actual shifter well forward of the bar I,

Re: [RBW] Re: Question for Hunquapillar owners

Ha Ha! Totally get that. I am still lusting after a Hunq. It just has been suppressed for the time being. Sometimes my practical side needs to be encouraged too! On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 9:23:54 PM UTC-4, dstein wrote: > > Broccoli Cog - no one was saying *don't *get the hunqapillar,