Re: [RBW] What Is a Cheviot?

2020-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
Which btw was sort of answer to "Is Sam Hillborne a road bike?" Anybody else here have Cheviot impressions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] FS: Bags, Bags, Bags and More

2020-03-27 Thread Ahmed Elgasseir
Corona Clean Up of the Garage... Apologies in advance for any "For Sale" faux pas, as this is really my first attempt at selling stuff on here. I am a Riv nerd with four rivs so over the years I have collected a bunch of different bags and things in an attempt to dial things up just the way I

[RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread JAS
Joe, thanks so much for the encouragement and your ideas for how to lighten up this baby. I'll be interested to see what comes of this discussion. I can see myself with fenders and a saddlebag with a rack or some sort of bag support if needed with the objective of keeping it light and agile.

Re: [RBW] What Is a Cheviot?

2020-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
One of the few Rivs I've never owned or tried is Sam Hillborne. Its direct predecessor was the Bleriot, which was the first Taiwan version of the Toyo/MUSA Saluki/AHH. I've owned all of those, they all had road calipers and I consider them road/country bikes. BUT, Sam has come at various

[RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread JAS
Leah, I'd happily be your twin! You want the sparkly red paint on your Chev and I'll have to hold out for a beautiful blue. Thanks for sharing what Vince told you. I love that idea of a Susie-version. Now I wonder how long we will have to wait for the next batch of Chevs. On Friday,

Re: [RBW] Helpless in Nevada: How do you secure this fender?

2020-03-27 Thread Leah Peterson
Hmmm...well, if that is as you say, I’ll try this tomorrow! With a video first to make sure I’m not breaking crap, you know... Sent from my iPad > On Mar 27, 2020, at 9:12 PM, masmojo wrote: > > I can bend it fairly easily with my thumbs just holding it in my hand, > mounted to the bike and

Re: [RBW] Helpless in Nevada: How do you secure this fender?

2020-03-27 Thread masmojo
I can bend it fairly easily with my thumbs just holding it in my hand, mounted to the bike and using the fender itself as a fulcrum, it should bend even easier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] What Is a Cheviot?

2020-03-27 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Interesting. A Hillborne (another bike I’ve never ridden). So, a Hillborne is a road bike? To everyone else who has a Cheviot and wants to share, do you ride it like you would a road bike? Or is it for city trips and shopping? Does it limit you in any way? I’m supposed to get a Cheviot when

Re: [RBW] What Is a Cheviot?

2020-03-27 Thread Roberta
That was my impression, too. Which is why on the other thread, I thought AHH/Chev combination would be great complimentary bikes. I could see myself with these two bikes in retirement. Or, just a mixte, if it was light and spiritedly like my AHH. There is something special about a mixte. I

Re: [RBW] What Is a Cheviot?

2020-03-27 Thread Surlyprof
That’s one tough answer to beat! John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this

Re: [RBW] What Is a Cheviot?

2020-03-27 Thread James Warren
A Mixte Tube Hillborne. And I’ll tell you, sometimes I feel like my HIllborne is my fastest road bike. > On Mar 27, 2020, at 8:11 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Bicycle Belle started this topic on another thread and I think it would be > interesting to dive into. I think it's a road bike or

[RBW] What Is a Cheviot?

2020-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
Bicycle Belle started this topic on another thread and I think it would be interesting to dive into. I think it's a road bike or Country Bike like a Homer, someone else said it was kinda equal to a Clem, and Will @ Riv uses his as a 2-speed on dirt trails (but he's crazy!). What do YOU think a

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
We're all (most of us, at least a lot of us) stuck at home and could use all the threads that are fit to print. Start a new thread yo! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread Leah Peterson
I am very interested in this topic of What Is A Cheviot, but I’m thinking of starting a new thread for fear of hijacking this one. I don’t have any knowledge to contribute about the Homer (but our Roberta does!) and am more interested in soliciting info re: the Cheviot. It’s just that I’ve

[RBW] Re: FS - Handlebars (basement cleanout of older handlebars)

2020-03-27 Thread RDS
Bosco and Rack sold. On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 8:34:26 PM UTC-4, RDS wrote: > > Pending sales on the bosco's and rack. > > On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 7:47:12 PM UTC-4, RDS wrote: >> >> Basement cleanout of older handlebars. All of the below ships from >> Georgia zipcode 30040. Pics at >>

[RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
Now if you REALLY want a go-fast Riv, go track down a Frank Jones Señor singlespeed like I just did. It's like, it's flexy, there's a strong chance I'm at least 10 pounds too heavy for it  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Get Around Bars

2020-03-27 Thread Conway Bennett
I'm in the minority. I had get around bars mated to a Nitto hi-riser stem on my quickbeam and I did not like them. If someone reads this and wants mine, please buy them! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: FS - Handlebars (basement cleanout of older handlebars)

2020-03-27 Thread RDS
Pending sales on the bosco's and rack. On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 7:47:12 PM UTC-4, RDS wrote: > > Basement cleanout of older handlebars. All of the below ships from > Georgia zipcode 30040. Pics at > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fa0woQ5CT1ZrVdPOsqz0iJ7KvAlYtxj8 > > > > *Bosco Bar*

[RBW] WTT: Billie Bars for your Wavie Bars

2020-03-27 Thread a spen
Hi folks, Like the subject line says, I'd looking to swap/exchange my Billie Bars for a set of Wavie Bars. These Billie's are in good condition, have only lightly been used and some light beusage. Please let me know if you're interested. Thanks! Al -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch
Could not agree more than with Joe and Roberta. Hopefully after Leah’s walk she reads the wisdom both of you present about tubes and models. Sincerely, Ryan Hankinson West Michigan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
Those are good lines in the sand, Roberta. Admittedly most Rivs aren't massively far apart in weight and ride, but Cheviot is to AHH as Joe A is to Atlantis, and Clem is on the stouter Hillibike side where Joe A and Atlantis live. In..my..opinion. -- You received this message because you

[RBW] FS - Handlebars (basement cleanout of older handlebars)

2020-03-27 Thread RDS
Basement cleanout of older handlebars. All of the below ships from Georgia zipcode 30040. Pics at https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fa0woQ5CT1ZrVdPOsqz0iJ7KvAlYtxj8 *Bosco Bar* w/ ends trimmed shorter – Steel – approx. 54mm c-to-c after trimming. Remaining straight portion of bar is

[RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread Roberta
I'm not sure... One thing Leah has been exploring and I'm contemplating is new tires. AHH has good tires (RBW lister built up the bike). With every Riv I've tested otherwise, they have been on not so great (as I've been told) Kenda tires. I don't know enough about bikes to know if the other

[RBW] Re: What Fenders Are These?

2020-03-27 Thread j.schwartz
Is is possible it could be these 63mm VO fenders? Looks like it , including the kick-in bend for the rear to make room for the chainrings https://velo-orange.com/collections/fenders/products/vo-fluted-63mm-fenders-700c On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 6:01:45 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > >

[RBW] Re: PSA Clem Smith Jr/Clememtine Sacramento Craigslist with interesting ad

2020-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
Now that guy's (or lady's) Atlantis is for sale, too, with the story that he/she has too many Rivs. So basically I have no idea, may everyone get the Rivs they want at prices they can live with. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
I *do* think Chevs get tagged as "about town bikes", as I alluded to earlier about the mixte look somewhat disguising the Rivendell road bike it really is. Ok maybe it's a Country Bike; Roadeo and Roadini are the true Riv road bikes. To me it's a Homer or Sam with a lower toptube. -- You

[RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Honestly, the more input the better. I feel like the Cheviot isn’t discussed much/enough. I was thrilled to see the cool Montanan featured on the Blug with hers this week. But why is this? Is the Cheviot seen and used more as an about town bike and not for other types of rides? Whatever

[RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
Yes, I'm telling them my experience with both bikes, and applying it to what I know about their riding. I have no problem with them having both opinions, this is an opinion forum. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread Clayton.HBG
Joe, You are advising them that the Cheviot rides "faster" than the Clem and the Cheviot is a road bike. I am saying they are both the same for ME from a effort to speed ratio. If they really want a faster bike, I suggest they get something else based on MY experiences. A Roadini or Roadeo

[RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
I would argue that you're a very experienced rider doing high mileage days on bikes Rivendell doesn't make. In my opinion the comparison I made applies better to the riding and bicycle interests of Joyce and Leah. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] What Fenders Are These?

2020-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
SimWorks by Honjo. I believe this is the fender on that Appaloosa. https://sim.works/collections/fenders-simworks-by-honjo/products/smooth-62?variant=24951437955 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] What Fenders Are These?

2020-03-27 Thread James Valiensi
Wow- that is the best representation of Honjo fenders ever! I too wanted the same for my JA. > On Mar 27, 2020, at 2:58 PM, maxcr wrote: > > Maybe sim works? https://www.sim.works/collections/fenders-simworks-by-honjo > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] What Fenders Are These?

2020-03-27 Thread maxcr
Maybe sim works? https://www.sim.works/collections/fenders-simworks-by-honjo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Get Around Bars

2020-03-27 Thread Isaac
I have both the Wavie and Getaround bar. The getaround is really fun for mountian biking and adventurous around town ridding. The Wavie bar is also great at those tasks but also much more comfortable on long rides since it has a little more back sweep and a nice forward hand position. That’s

[RBW] Re: PSA Clem Smith Jr/Clememtine Sacramento Craigslist with interesting ad

2020-03-27 Thread Collin A
I missed out on the original ad (bummer), but this new clem seems like a fine bicycle. Thanks Clayton for helping keep things in perspective. >From my Porch Office, Collin in Sacramento On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 12:58:32 PM UTC-7, Clayton.sf wrote: > > Or maybe they are currently out of

[RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread Clayton.sf
My experience is different. For me both Clem L and Cheviot are similar regarding effort to speed ratio. I have not found the Cheviot any speedier than the Clem. The Clem does better in rough stuff and is an equal on the road. Cheviot is easier to mount and dismount with load. Both are NOT bikes

[RBW] In Praise of Get Around Bars

2020-03-27 Thread Bones
Those look great. Anyone have any experience with both those and the wavie bars? Any preference? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] What Fenders Are These?

2020-03-27 Thread Grady Wright
Hello Friends, Can anyone identify what fenders are in this photo from rivendell's blug? https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/185091706269/who-rides-an-appaloosa-john-a-familiar-face-in I messaged them to ask if they knew what size tires and model of fender and the answer was the tires were 2.25"

[RBW] Re: FS: Rene Herse Tires, Teravail 700c

2020-03-27 Thread Collin A
Bump, how about $80 shipped for the RH Tires? On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 7:54:56 AM UTC-7, Collin A wrote: > > 700x28 teravail rampart tires sold. > > The 700x35 teravail cannonballs and 700x35 Rene Herse BJP tires remain. > > On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 7:20:13 PM UTC-7, Collin A wrote:

[RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
Joyce, I've owned 4 Clems (2 L, 2 H) and a Cheviot - which probably means I have a problem, but that's another story! 浪 - and think I can double-up a bit on Leah's thoughts. The Chev is often misunderstood as a cruiser/tourer-type bike because of the mixte look but in reality it's a

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Get Around Bars

2020-03-27 Thread Birdman
And Gabriel, that Rockhopper is amazing -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this

[RBW] Re: PSA Clem Smith Jr/Clememtine Sacramento Craigslist with interesting ad

2020-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
Well it's like this. Old Days Joe would have more thoughts on this and stir it up bad and Cyclofiend Jim would eventually have to clean up the thread, then give up and kill it. With a pinned note up top there to remind me this was all a bad idea. But New Nice Joe is going to shut up now

[RBW] Re: In Praise of Get Around Bars

2020-03-27 Thread Birdman
Thanks guys! I'm really excited about how it turned out. Gabriel, I'm running 26" Ritchey Vantage Experts. The ETs measure 2.5" wide and 2 5/16" tall. i -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Joyce, what are we, the same exact person??? I love my Clementine, same as you, but I *also* want something spirited and light, but not a diamond frame. I’m really hoping those Cheviots happen late summer because I’ll be getting one in that batch. I had the same caveat as you - I told Vince I

[RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread JAS
I've been thinking about a Cheviot as a compliment to my Clem, wanting a "go-faster-feeling" bike for road riding and light loads. My Clem is great for dirt trails, rough roads and grocery runs. Though I enjoy the ride, light and spirited is what I'm after for bike #2. (I like that

[RBW] Re: PSA Clem Smith Jr/Clememtine Sacramento Craigslist with interesting ad

2020-03-27 Thread Clayton.sf
Or maybe they are currently out of work and this is a way to feed their family for a few more days. Don't know the seller, but have a few friends struggling right now or soon and I would be the last to judge them for a move like this. Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 12:34:40

[RBW] Re: Cheviot and A Homer Hilsen?

2020-03-27 Thread Roberta
I think they'd compliment each other very well, and I'm thinking I'd want a step thru like a Chev, myself.I have a MIT AHH and the ride is light and spirited. I've ridden the Chev and is solid and stable. I think between the two, you might have all the bikes you need. On Thursday, March

[RBW] Re: PSA Clem Smith Jr/Clememtine Sacramento Craigslist with interesting ad

2020-03-27 Thread BRETT ROBINSON
Yeah, pretty lame... On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 10:53:28 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I hope this person who also owns an Atlantis and clearly knows what they > bought is willing to budge a LOT off that price. Not to me, I don't need > it, but someone who could have paid $700 and enjoyed

Re: [RBW] Crash Stories

2020-03-27 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
You all need one of these: I wore one of these back in the day … but without a ponytail. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram) > On Mar 27, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Roberta wrote: > > I could see The Ponytail Helmet (TM) as having a vertical opening, about two >

Re: [RBW] Re: Crash Stories

2020-03-27 Thread Roberta
I could see The Ponytail Helmet (TM) as having a vertical opening, about two inches wide, going from the top of head to top of neck, so you could accommodate any placement of ponytail, except for a side-pony (hey, perhaps a second product idea?). Me?--I have short curly hair, so I'm going with

[RBW] Re: FS: 52 Clem H Mustard

2020-03-27 Thread Clayton.sf
Price drop. $800. shipped to CONUS. Clayton Scott HBG,CA On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:58:02 PM UTC-7, Clayton.sf wrote: > > Hi All, > > Have a 52cm Clem Mustard H frame (high top tube) for sale. > It is in almost new condition except for a scratch in the downbube. > Straight, never crashed,

[RBW] How do you ride alone?

2020-03-27 Thread rob markwardt
Greetings, I ride solo almost everyday. I never get bored and If I didn’t have a family I could see myself creeping into Freddy Hoffman territory. Almost 95% of my rides are out and backs from my Seattle home and none of them are ever exactly the same path. I have several basic ride “routes”

[RBW] Semi-OT: chambray

2020-03-27 Thread Jay Lonner
I just pulled my trusty MUSA blue chambray shirt out of the wash and it is on its last legs, so to speak - significant fraying at the cuffs and collar, worn elbows, missing buttons. I happened to get Grant on the phone yesterday during a call to HQ on an unrelated matter, and when I pivoted to

[RBW] Re: PSA Clem Smith Jr/Clememtine Sacramento Craigslist with interesting ad

2020-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
I hope this person who also owns an Atlantis and clearly knows what they bought is willing to budge a LOT off that price. Not to me, I don't need it, but someone who could have paid $700 and enjoyed a nice bike to ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: PSA Clem Smith Jr/Clememtine Sacramento Craigslist with interesting ad

2020-03-27 Thread David B
Guessing someone got it at $700 and is flipping it. On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 11:31:36 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > It's back. Now in Santa Cruz with a rack and bag added at double the price > 路 > > >

[RBW] Re: Speed wobble

2020-03-27 Thread Friend
Interesting. I ride Antelope Hills. On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 12:33:53 PM UTC-4, Sean on Bike wrote: > > > I had the same issue with my Hilsen when using a brevet bag with very > moderate weight and rack. I since no longer use that set up but shimmy > persisted. > > The culprit ended up

Re: [RBW] Re: Crash Stories

2020-03-27 Thread Leah Peterson
John, this was worth the watch - I laughed out loud on my walk like a fool.  I think The Ponytail Helmet (TM) is more aesthetically appealing, however. And no prescription necessary. 藍藍藍 Sent from my iPad > On Mar 27, 2020, at 9:36 AM, Surlyprof wrote: > > Leah, > > Your video reminded me

Re: [RBW] Re: Crash Stories

2020-03-27 Thread Surlyprof
Leah, Your video reminded me of the “hairmet” on The TV show Scrubs. https://youtu.be/OL0GkcO05JE John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Speed wobble

2020-03-27 Thread Sean on Bike
I had the same issue with my Hilsen when using a brevet bag with very moderate weight and rack. I since no longer use that set up but shimmy persisted. The culprit ended up being the tires–my beloved Jack Brown greens. Bike shop said tires vary in how "true" they're manufactured–to use my

Re: [RBW] Helpless in Nevada: How do you secure this fender?

2020-03-27 Thread Leah Peterson
Yes, Joe is right, the bracket is much stiffer than I anticipated. I really thought I’d be able to bend that sucker into place, but it’s fairly unyielding. Yes, I can have my husband try to manhandle it, but since it’s so thick I’m afraid we won’t get bent in the right shape and it will be a

[RBW] Re: PSA Clem Smith Jr/Clememtine Sacramento Craigslist with interesting ad

2020-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
It's back. Now in Santa Cruz with a rack and bag added at double the price 路 https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/bik/d/santa-cruz-rivendell-bicycle-works/7099658154.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] Helpless in Nevada: How do you secure this fender?

2020-03-27 Thread Joe Bernard
That's interesting advice, masmojo. I pictured the bracket being stiffer, but they're very light so I bet you're right that it should be pretty easy for her to bend down around the curve of the fender. You can do the job, Leah! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: [650B] Blogging in the age of COVID - four part blog series on metal fender installation

2020-03-27 Thread Cody Bartz
Great info, thank you for sharing, and thank you Anton for the resource! Cody Key West, FL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] First Ride Thoughts on my new Sam Hillborne

2020-03-27 Thread Surlyprof
Congrats on the Sam, Nathan. I have an older, orange 56 canti-Sam and almost every ride has the same impact that your first ride did. Even if I’m not up for a ride or feel like I’m going for a ride just to get the exercise, a transformation Usually occurs. At some point in the ride (usually

Re: [RBW] Helpless in Nevada: How do you secure this fender?

2020-03-27 Thread masmojo
Leah, terribly sorry I somehow missed this thread otherwise could have solved your dilemma days ago or in one of the emails I clobbered you with the last couple days. I have the black versions of those very same fenders on my Polyvalent. The mounting point on the Polyvalent is different though

[RBW] Re: PSA Atlantis Arlington, MA

2020-03-27 Thread Christopher Cote
Yep, looks just like my 56cm Toyo. I believe that was outed here or on the ibob list when it was listed by The Pro's Closet. That looks like a pretty good deal. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] Re: Speed wobble

2020-03-27 Thread Friend
This is happening on the Homer. It has a large saddle bag but when I was riding yesterday, with maybe 5 or 7 pounds on the rear rack, it still had wobble going about 12mph. I did buy it used but it's the factory fork. I think it may also have something to do with the handlebars. They are

[RBW] Re: How do you ride alone?

2020-03-27 Thread masmojo
I ride alone 95% of the time; especially since my local Rivendell/Surly/All City sort of hipster shops all closed down. I used to like going on their weekend rides. I find myself not working currently so I can ride during the week, middle of the day, whenever. I like the exercise aspect of